I play Discworld Mud. Text based online game based on the discworld books. Kind of interesting to me since I grew up after text games went out of fashion.
so you're saying the problem is with the way bills are passed? That the simpsons pretty much got it right when it came to how bills could get crap attached.
Service that ANYONE can buy... non-exclusively... just like any randomer can get peering with AOL.
in order to provide a decent website you'd then have to pay packet protection to all the hundreds of little ISP's around the globe to make sure that those on the other side of their networks will get your packets even though you've paid for your connection and your customer has paid for their connection.
Fantastic idea! Lets kill of the chance of ever seeing another successful internet startup that isn't being bankrolled by a bored billionare!
You really missed the whole point of NN. Your connection to the net has nothing to do with it.
You might have a fat pipe or you might be on 56k. the important thing is that when your packets are half way around the globe passing through some router belonging to a random corporation that they get treated the same as the packets of they guy next door to you. The anti NN lobby wants to make it so that that random company half way round the globe can charge you extra to not have your packets dropped/slowed in favour of your neighbour who's paid their traffic protection fee.
But before when there was one road the push was to improve the whole road. instead of putting your money into improving the whole road all the money goes into improving the fast lane. so no. everyone else suffers. You're wrong.
Oh I was replying to an earlier post which was basicly saying NN isn't needed. I don't really have a problem with google adding more servers all over the place.
Which is exactly why NN is a good things. A flat internet favors startups with a good idea. The idea that you can hook up to the net and your packets get the same priority as anyone elses means that you can compete with big name companies. Hell google is an example. A couple of students with some good code did things better than the giants of the time. Now imagine the same scenario but where google searches were slowed down because they weren't able to pay for the "fast lane" and you might be hearing the term "yahoo it" or "micro it" instead of "google it"
But if one groups gets a fast lane, one group with money gets to put their shops on the highstreet, then it pretty much kills the chances of that kind of competition.
it becomes the slow lane since the bigger the difference between the 2 services the more reason for those with deep pockets to pay for the better service.
We use the union rep/boss examples because that's what used to happen. Try the same scenario where it's the authorities you mention who want to tell you who to vote for.Just like in many many countries around the world.
Anon voting is fairly new and before that it wasn't uncommon for people to be killed/beaten for voting for the "wrong" party.
By your reasoning: You know when you hook a trailer up to your car? there's a safety chain you can put on as well. The trailer is used at high speeds on public roads.(much more dangerous than a living room)
One day a retard buys a new trailer, looks at the hitch and then just loops the safety chain over.
He doesn't actually hook the trailer on properly. He doesn't use his brain.
He starts driving with only the safty chain holding the trailer. After an amazing 60 miles the strain on the chain on a hairpin turn at 100 MPH is too much and it breaks. The trailer flys away damaging his car or someone elses.
He then sues the trailer company because he dun be too stupid to use it properly and it wasn't idiot proof enough. Should this manufacturer be held responsible because even though their safety measure did what it was supposed to, it couldn't withstand a motivated fool? when their designed product failed under strains it would never be put under by a user with an IQ in double figures?
Was it his fault or the trailer makers fault? Did they not consider their target demographic before adding a safety feature?
god, people are so stupid with the controllers, you can achieve the same result with a tiny flick of the wrist but no. Retards with toungs rolling, arms and legs flying and eyes closed decide the only way is to launch the controller into space in front of them.
Such is not nintendos fault, it is the retards fault.
You know that backs his point not yours. The strap is there for safety. It is not there for functional reasons. I know of no game which requires you to spin the remote round your arm using the strap.
It's there as an Extra. A useful thing to have in case you're incapable of holding on to a controller. If it becomes frayed from your child chewing on it then you replace it. Simple enough? Apparently not for some people.
The wiimote works perfectly well without any strap at all. The strap is an extra. The strap shouldn't even be needed.
But someone went "you know what would be a good idea for safety? Adding a little strap, sure if someone puts hundreds of pounds of pressure on it it'll break but that's better than having no strap."
remember when you're looking at all that scary scary "My child got the vaccine and only 2 years later he developed autism at the age which children normally develop autism, IT'S THE VACCINE THAT DID IT" to also look at some examples of Measles http://allergyasthma.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/measles_3.jpg (note this is not fucking chicken pox, it's is a horrible disease which kills some and leaves others with permanent damage.Ulcers on your eyes are not fun) Mumps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumps (not a fun disease to have, can sometimes lead to meningitis) Rubella http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella (If you or your wife is trying to get pregnant soon then make damned sure you get vaccinated Infection of the mother by Rubella virus during pregnancy can be serious; if the mother is infected within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, the child may be born with congenital rubella syndrome (CRS), which entails a range of serious incurable illnesses. Spontaneous abortion occurs in up to 20% of cases.)
Idiots who consider their children the only statistic hold measles parties. Yes they intentionally infect their children with serious diseases because they have no idea how serious these diseases can be and "its like natural vaccinations!".
If you don't vaccinate your child you are being negligent. If you don't vacinate your child, he/she gets sick and then passes it on to a pregnant mother then you might as well have punched her in the fucking stomach. Don't delude yourself, if that happens it's your fault.
"The idea that Free Software can be sold has some government officials perplexed. Times Online has the story. A UK Trading Standards officer contacted the Mozilla Foundation to report catching a business selling copies of Firefox. The organization confiscated the CDs with the intent to prosecute said business. When informed that such distribution was authorized, the officer first expressed disbelief that Free Software could be sold then said 'If Mozilla permit the sale of copied versions of its software, it makes it virtually impossible for us, from a practical point of view, to enforce UK anti-piracy legislation'."
So we can't even say that DNA does have a built-in mechanism that will cause itself to be reproduced at any cost. Because if it did then all humans, the most numerous of large mammals on this planet, would have children and life circumstances wouldn't be able to stop us.
Perhaps if you look at it through the eyes of a 5 year old. mutation and variation happen. There is no requirement for everyone to act the same way. Organisms can vary their rate of reproduction to suit the environment. Plants can produce better fruit in bad years when the plant is at risk of dying in a sort of "last ditch" effort while producing less fruit in good years when there will be more competition for space. Animals can produce less young in crowded environments.
Well as for the smaller number of kids later in life, there can be more benefit in raising 2 kids to be successful and stable when you have the resources than popping out 12 kids starting at age 12 and having them all end up on the bottom tiers of society. It could also be attributed to how people react to living in a crowded environment.
As for people killing themselves, there is a price for having a system for dealing with complex reasoning, sometimes it gets broken and leads to actions which are clearly bad for your chances of reproducing. It's like asking "what's with all these people with bad genetic mutations" it's a side effect of something which give an advantage overall.
I recently had a conversation with a recently retired friend of mine.
He barely uses the net- I think he has an email address with his ISP and that's about it.
He was complaining about how everything was so expensive and how he's had to pay for some antivirus software after their old computer got infected with something. etc.
I ask: "why didn't you just get some free one?" His response: "There's so such thing as a free lunch! Either it's stolen or they'll be cheating you somehow" I then tried to explain about linux and FOSS but he had grown up with the solid idea that nothing worth having is ever free unless you're being scammed in some way. He could not be convinced that FOSS was legal and genuinely free. There had to be a catch. There had to be a law being broken.
This attitude is common with the older generation who aren't used to the net. "Free" rings alarm bells and this is an issue I rarely hear mention of when people talk about the problems linux has spreading.
Sequels come out in the same way that new models of car come out.
Yet if a manufacturer tried to cripple their cars in such a way that they could only ever be used by one person and never sold on then you can bet people would get pissed of real fast.
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Step one: trial to decide if there's probably been a crime. Step two: If the first trial decided there was something serious enough to answer for the persons identity is found. Step three: Step one repeated with the person there to defend themselves.
Well everyone else seems to have pointed out that you're an idiot but I'll chime in with- terrorists are like lightening. Sure they kill people but they kill so few that it really really isn't worth selling your freedoms in order to completely fail to stop them.
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I play Discworld Mud. Text based online game based on the discworld books.
Kind of interesting to me since I grew up after text games went out of fashion.
so you're saying the problem is with the way bills are passed?
That the simpsons pretty much got it right when it came to how bills could get crap attached.
Service that ANYONE can buy... non-exclusively... just like any randomer can get peering with AOL.
in order to provide a decent website you'd then have to pay packet protection to all the hundreds of little ISP's around the globe to make sure that those on the other side of their networks will get your packets even though you've paid for your connection and your customer has paid for their connection.
Fantastic idea!
Lets kill of the chance of ever seeing another successful internet startup that isn't being bankrolled by a bored billionare!
You really missed the whole point of NN.
Your connection to the net has nothing to do with it.
You might have a fat pipe or you might be on 56k.
the important thing is that when your packets are half way around the globe passing through some router belonging to a random corporation that they get treated the same as the packets of they guy next door to you.
The anti NN lobby wants to make it so that that random company half way round the globe can charge you extra to not have your packets dropped/slowed in favour of your neighbour who's paid their traffic protection fee.
How about "nano" that seems to be a popular word, or "solution".
"Hyper" is a bit out of fashion.
"Nanocrime" just rolls of the tongue.
Course we could just call it "crime" or "fraud" to fit what it really is no matter the medium but that doesn't sound so cool.
But before when there was one road the push was to improve the whole road. instead of putting your money into improving the whole road all the money goes into improving the fast lane. so no. everyone else suffers.
You're wrong.
Oh I was replying to an earlier post which was basicly saying NN isn't needed.
I don't really have a problem with google adding more servers all over the place.
Which is exactly why NN is a good things.
A flat internet favors startups with a good idea.
The idea that you can hook up to the net and your packets get the same priority as anyone elses means that you can compete with big name companies. Hell google is an example. A couple of students with some good code did things better than the giants of the time.
Now imagine the same scenario but where google searches were slowed down because they weren't able to pay for the "fast lane" and you might be hearing the term "yahoo it" or "micro it" instead of "google it"
But if one groups gets a fast lane, one group with money gets to put their shops on the highstreet, then it pretty much kills the chances of that kind of competition.
it becomes the slow lane since the bigger the difference between the 2 services the more reason for those with deep pockets to pay for the better service.
Which is exactly the same.
"You can pay extra to be in the fast lane"
is the same as
"If you don't pay extra you'll have to stay in the slow lanes"
because you end up in the same situation if you don't pay and get the same perks if you do pay.
We use the union rep/boss examples because that's what used to happen.
Try the same scenario where it's the authorities you mention who want to tell you who to vote for.Just like in many many countries around the world.
Anon voting is fairly new and before that it wasn't uncommon for people to be killed/beaten for voting for the "wrong" party.
By your reasoning:
You know when you hook a trailer up to your car?
there's a safety chain you can put on as well.
The trailer is used at high speeds on public roads.(much more dangerous than a living room)
One day a retard buys a new trailer, looks at the hitch and then just loops the safety chain over.
He doesn't actually hook the trailer on properly. He doesn't use his brain.
He starts driving with only the safty chain holding the trailer. After an amazing 60 miles the strain on the chain on a hairpin turn at 100 MPH is too much and it breaks. The trailer flys away damaging his car or someone elses.
He then sues the trailer company because he dun be too stupid to use it properly and it wasn't idiot proof enough.
Should this manufacturer be held responsible because even though their safety measure did what it was supposed to, it couldn't withstand a motivated fool? when their designed product failed under strains it would never be put under by a user with an IQ in double figures?
Was it his fault or the trailer makers fault?
Did they not consider their target demographic before adding a safety feature?
This is why your argument is stupid.
god, people are so stupid with the controllers, you can achieve the same result with a tiny flick of the wrist but no.
Retards with toungs rolling, arms and legs flying and eyes closed decide the only way is to launch the controller into space in front of them.
Such is not nintendos fault, it is the retards fault.
You know that backs his point not yours.
The strap is there for safety.
It is not there for functional reasons.
I know of no game which requires you to spin the remote round your arm using the strap.
It's there as an Extra.
A useful thing to have in case you're incapable of holding on to a controller.
If it becomes frayed from your child chewing on it then you replace it.
Simple enough? Apparently not for some people.
No, this is stupid.
The wiimote works perfectly well without any strap at all.
The strap is an extra.
The strap shouldn't even be needed.
But someone went "you know what would be a good idea for safety? Adding a little strap, sure if someone puts hundreds of pounds of pressure on it it'll break but that's better than having no strap."
then idiots who think like you come along.
if they're smart they'll be able to work out how to use them
If they're wise they'll know how important it is to work out how to use them.
remember when you're looking at all that scary scary "My child got the vaccine and only 2 years later he developed autism at the age which children normally develop autism, IT'S THE VACCINE THAT DID IT" to also look at some examples of
Measles http://allergyasthma.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/measles_3.jpg (note this is not fucking chicken pox, it's is a horrible disease which kills some and leaves others with permanent damage.Ulcers on your eyes are not fun)
Mumps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumps (not a fun disease to have, can sometimes lead to meningitis)
Rubella http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella (If you or your wife is trying to get pregnant soon then make damned sure you get vaccinated Infection of the mother by Rubella virus during pregnancy can be serious; if the mother is infected within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, the child may be born with congenital rubella syndrome (CRS), which entails a range of serious incurable illnesses. Spontaneous abortion occurs in up to 20% of cases.)
Idiots who consider their children the only statistic hold measles parties. Yes they intentionally infect their children with serious diseases because they have no idea how serious these diseases can be and "its like natural vaccinations!".
If you don't vaccinate your child you are being negligent. If you don't vacinate your child, he/she gets sick and then passes it on to a pregnant mother then you might as well have punched her in the fucking stomach. Don't delude yourself, if that happens it's your fault.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/23/1330220
"The idea that Free Software can be sold has some government officials perplexed. Times Online has the story. A UK Trading Standards officer contacted the Mozilla Foundation to report catching a business selling copies of Firefox. The organization confiscated the CDs with the intent to prosecute said business. When informed that such distribution was authorized, the officer first expressed disbelief that Free Software could be sold then said 'If Mozilla permit the sale of copied versions of its software, it makes it virtually impossible for us, from a practical point of view, to enforce UK anti-piracy legislation'."
there ya go
So we can't even say that DNA does have a built-in mechanism that will cause itself to be reproduced at any cost. Because if it did then all humans, the most numerous of large mammals on this planet, would have children and life circumstances wouldn't be able to stop us.
Perhaps if you look at it through the eyes of a 5 year old.
mutation and variation happen.
There is no requirement for everyone to act the same way.
Organisms can vary their rate of reproduction to suit the environment. Plants can produce better fruit in bad years when the plant is at risk of dying in a sort of "last ditch" effort while producing less fruit in good years when there will be more competition for space.
Animals can produce less young in crowded environments.
Well as for the smaller number of kids later in life, there can be more benefit in raising 2 kids to be successful and stable when you have the resources than popping out 12 kids starting at age 12 and having them all end up on the bottom tiers of society.
It could also be attributed to how people react to living in a crowded environment.
As for people killing themselves, there is a price for having a system for dealing with complex reasoning, sometimes it gets broken and leads to actions which are clearly bad for your chances of reproducing.
It's like asking "what's with all these people with bad genetic mutations" it's a side effect of something which give an advantage overall.
I recently had a conversation with a recently retired friend of mine.
He barely uses the net- I think he has an email address with his ISP and that's about it.
He was complaining about how everything was so expensive and how he's had to pay for some antivirus software after their old computer got infected with something. etc.
I ask: "why didn't you just get some free one?"
His response: "There's so such thing as a free lunch! Either it's stolen or they'll be cheating you somehow"
I then tried to explain about linux and FOSS but he had grown up with the solid idea that nothing worth having is ever free unless you're being scammed in some way.
He could not be convinced that FOSS was legal and genuinely free. There had to be a catch. There had to be a law being broken.
This attitude is common with the older generation who aren't used to the net. "Free" rings alarm bells and this is an issue I rarely hear mention of when people talk about the problems linux has spreading.
Discs get damaged.
Sequels come out in the same way that new models of car come out.
Yet if a manufacturer tried to cripple their cars in such a way that they could only ever be used by one person and never sold on then you can bet people would get pissed of real fast.
AOL users of course.
From orbit.
Step one: trial to decide if there's probably been a crime.
Step two: If the first trial decided there was something serious enough to answer for the persons identity is found.
Step three: Step one repeated with the person there to defend themselves.
You're right!
For centuries everyone knew what "marriage" meant, and what it didn't mean.
For centuries everyone knew marriage was simply a union between 2 people.
Then bigots twisted the meaning of the word to prevent people who love each other from getting married!
http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/irishtimes/opt3.htm
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/1998/0811/98081100088.html
Look to history! The church used to give their blessing to gays!
Now to point out that this is way way way off topic and we should both be modded down to get this drivel off the page.
Well everyone else seems to have pointed out that you're an idiot but I'll chime in with- terrorists are like lightening. Sure they kill people but they kill so few that it really really isn't worth selling your freedoms in order to completely fail to stop them.