if we just abuse our rights like this no wonder we get crazy politicians trying to remove them
I read this in the voice of a woman with a black eye saying something like "It was a door.... clumsy me.....really I should have had his meal ready when he got home.... "
You mean how he stayed in sweeden until they said he could leave? or do you mean how he then turned himself in to the police in the UK when the Swedish government changed it's mind?
He's one of those rare people who are actually quite justified to assume conspiracy against him given how many of the post powerful people in the world he and his organisation has pissed off.
He could have hidden perfectly fine if he'd wanted to, there was at least one country(Ecuador) which offered him asylum with no strings attached.
Do some fucking research next time rather than parroting fox news as if they're a real news source.
One persons scandal is another persons boring drivel. A dull little cable about a diplomat having a meeting about banking regulations can be a non story for most people while for a few it can unveil how a politician ignored advice that may have averted a crisis.
You mean where a politician that we like was privately urging other countries to keep sanctions in place to the detriment of his countries poor in the hope of putting pressure on his political rival while publicly denouncing those same sanctions?
It is absolutely a double edged sword since 2-faced people we like can be exposed lying just like people we don't like.
"boy discovers he's a wizard, has adventures" is not copyrightable.
but try writing a non-parody book about a boy wizard Larry Cotter who's parents are killed by Lord Woldemort who himself was almost killed in the attempt to kill that boy who now lives with non-magical step parents who hate magic who is then on his xth birthday suddently visited by a large and imposing groundskeeper who delcares that he's a wizard and whisks him off to a magical school where he quickly makes 2 friends and had adventures involving a magical train, a flying car, a tree which hits people, werewolves,giant spiders, dragons, a touranemt with a couple of others schools, some version of rugby/football played on broomsticks etc along with the evil overlord returning every book or so to try to kill him....
"boy discovers he's a wizard, has adventures" is not copyrightable.
but try writing a non-parody book about a boy wizard Larry Cotter who's parents are killed by Lord Woldemort who himself was almost killed in the attempt to kill that boy who now lives with non-magical step parents who hate magic who is then on his xth birthday suddently visited by a large and imposing groundskeeper who delcares that he's a wizard and whisks him off to a magical school where he quickly makes 2 friends and had adventures involving a magical train, a flying car, a tree which hits people, werewolves,giant spiders, dragons, a touranemt with a couple of others schools, some version of rugby/football played on broomsticks etc along with the evil overlord returning every book or so to try to kill him....
The problem remains where to draw the line. The orphan who discovers that her parents were murdered by a villain and sets out to avenge their death is an unprotectable cliche. But every copyrightable work is a compendium of uncopyrightable components -- namely, words.
So looking at what you've written, those are such broad strokes that I would expect any US court to hold that it does not infringe JK Rowling's copyrights. Then again, if you were to keep to the outlines of what you describe, but were to divide and sequence the chapters precisely as JK Rowling did, I wouldn't be surprised if the court went the other way. Clearly on the other side of the line, if you were to scan and OCR a Harry Potter book and find and replace "wizard" with "solar knight" and "Voldemort" with "Galactina," you'd probably end up paying the fees of Ms. Rowling's lawyers.
there's massive leeway given to things being "inspired by" previous work but if you go too far you end up at the bad end of a copyright suite.
Because plots are copyrightable, the actual functionality of code is not. Both the text and plot of a book can be copyrighted. Only the actual text of a program can be copyrighted(along with it's machine code version of course).
Actually he cites a google search which is one step lower. As to why such problems haven't been solved it's an issue that the problems which are actually solved become non-issues.
most of the worlds problems could be solved by a 5 year old if people were willing to actually follow advice like "stop shooting one another","don't seriously dick people over for trivial gains of your own" and "no it's not yours now just because you really want it and have a gun"
Marine radar is common and the cargo ships in question have to have systems to avoid hitting other smaller ships and any other floating hazards along with staff on duty at all time to watch for such things since hitting things is bad for ships.
Few things happen fast at sea so you've very likely to have time to wake someone up. hell the pirates need to have a ladder lowered to them to get up on threat of using the RPG's on the ship.
In the case of the pirates getting too close to risk trying to kill them before they're close enough to fire the RPG's then you just drop the sniper rifle over the other side of the boat before you let the ladder down for them.
So the crew get a significant decrease in the chances of getting taken hostage and/or killed and it comes with a massive increase in risk for the pirates.
And the sniper can even have a another job most of the time as long as it keeps him close to the weapon and close to somewhere he can get a good shot.
I live in a country with a population similar to that of Sydney only spread out more and we pay less than half what you do for games even after our own 21% VAT is added. there's plenty of population to support more competition in AU.
lovely idea. lets force every web host to only allow content in formats they themselves have the ability to read?
encrypted file? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it! large binary file we don't recognise? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it! Something in a language we don't know? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it! Something in a format we can't read? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it!
and we can completely and utterly forget any form of privacy, webmail providers should be checking all attachments as well to make sure nobody is emailing warez to each other and all text to make sure people aren't sharing ebooks.
Educate yourself. The ACLU is a friend of religious freedom. unfortunatly the world is full of people who want to force other people to conform to their own religon. I'm guessing you're one such person who is annoyed that he can't take away the religious freedoms of others. http://www.acluutah.org/defenseofreligion.htm
* The ACLU of New Jersey (2006) filed a friend-of-the-court brief asking a federal court to uphold an elementary school student's right to sing "Awesome God" in a voluntary, after-school talent show for which students selected their own material. http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/25799prs20060605.html
* The ACLU of Louisiana (2006) filed a lawsuit defending the free speech rights of a Christian who was protesting based on his religious beliefs. The man was chased away from the front of a Wal-Mart store where he was carrying a sign that read: "Christians: Wal-Mart Supports Gay Marriage and Gay Lifestyles. Don't Shop There." www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/27266prs20061027.html
The ACLU of Rhode Island (2006) filed an appeal in federal court on behalf of an inmate who was barred from preaching during Christian religious services, as he had done for the past seven years under the supervision and support of prison clergy. The prisoner, Wesley Spratt, believes his preaching is a calling from God. Prison officials cited vague and unsubstantiated security reasons for imposing the preaching ban on Mr. Spratt. The ACLU argued that the ban violates the religious freedom guaranteed to Mr. Spratt under federal law. www.riaclu.org/20060111.html
* The ACLU of Georgia (2006) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the Tabernacle Community Baptist Church charging that the city of East Point, Georgia violated a federal religious discrimination law when it denied the church a zoning permit needed to establish its house of worship. www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/25518prs20060419.html
* The New York Civil Liberties Union (2006) challenged a New York State policy forbidding New York State prison guards to wear religious head coverings. The plaintiff, a devout Muslim, had worn a kufi while on duty for many years before he was told to remove it. Many other state agencies allow employees to wear religious head coverings while performing employment duties. www.nyclu.org/haqq_complaint_pr_100506.html
* The ACLU (2006) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the widow of a soldier killed in Afghanistan who seeks to have a Wiccan symbol included on her husband's headstone. The suit challenges the constitutionality of a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs policy that allows inclusion of many religious symbols on headstones in military cemeteries but excludes Wiccan symbols. www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/26970prs20060929.html www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/13/widows.suit.ap/index.html
* The ACLU of Maryland (2006) wrote a letter urging Howard County school officials to allow Muslim students to leave school to pray each Friday. www.aclu-md.org/aPress/News%202006/060806_HCT.html
* The ACLU of Southern California (2006) filed suit on behalf of a Vietnamese Buddhist Temple (Quan Am Temple) against the City of Garden Grove and its officials for violating the congregation's First Amendment rights to free religious exercise and the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000. The complaint challenges the constitutionality of the City's zoning codes, as well as the City's application of the zoning codes to Quan Am Temple. In October, a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction allowing the congregation to assemble and practice their religion. www.aclu-sc.org/News/Releases/2006/102100/
* The ACLU and its affiliates (1999-2006) have been instrumental supporters of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA), which gives religious organizations added protections in erecting religious
once someone tells them they're hosting copyrighted content they take it down. Should they be rooting through my files, reading my documents and watching my home videos just to try to decide if it's copyrighted content (which they still won't know) before someone reports it? never mind encrypted files.
any service he likes will be ok because he likes it and uses it for other things.
any service he doesn't like will be not ok because he doesn't like it and doesn't use it for anything himself hence (at least from his point of view)nobody is using it legitimately or the people who do use it legitimately don't count for one concocted reason or another.
I'm leaning against the guy in TFA yet I still percieve what you wrote as desperate reaching.
People who build roulette wheels intend for them to be truely random(or biased in the casinos favor), if someone then after watching thousands of spins works out that the wheel is flawed and certain numbers come up more often than pure chance would indicate have they clearly violated the anticipated design of the machine? no, they've played the game that was put in front of it and they used their brains.
The wheel claims they win, (I could throw in a "He they did, in fact, not win" but that would be simply false like what you wrote) if I wanted to distort the issue I could say that they manipulated the situation to make sure the wheel displayed the "you have won" state also known as the ball landing on the number they had bet on equivalently to a document purporting to entitle them to a large amount of cash. But it was not produced as a result of a legitimate game of chance, which is what the machine is supposed to do. Instead it was produced as a result of deliberately placing bets on numbers more likely to come up.
when something involves electronics it doesn't magically change everything, roulette wheel or slot machine.
when I visited australia I learned that you guys have an absolutely and compltely utterly insane level of sales tax on anything which isn't food. books, videos etc cost a minimum of twice as much in AU as my home country in europe.
Yes, too many things have *aspects* which are appealing at first but which history has shown to tend towards situations which we don't really want.
Eugenics can start with the simple and reasonable goal of not wanting children to suffer horribly painful genetic diseases but history in the form of the nazi party showed that if you go too far down that road then being a member of an unpopular ethnic group is eventually cause enough for sterilisation or extermination so better to steer well clear entirely, it isn't worth it.
Hell the nazi party provides no shortage of warnings it's good to remember like
"never believe any government which is herding some segment of the population into cattle cars and tells everyone that they're really just going to live somewhere nice"
And perhaps most relevent lesson from history to elrous0:
"Das war ein Vorspiel nur, dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen."
Dwarf fortress in general takes this approach even so far as being used as a way to sugest priorities with the DF Eternal Suggestion Voting.
You can't sift through all the crap yourself but once you have a community who will hang out on your suggestions forum for you the dross of "oh, HAI! We should totally have quicktime events in this game cause they're awsome!" quickly gets burried by sane forum members while good ideas will get mostly positive attention.
I've heard that repeated many times yet governments often reduce their military, governments often bring in new laws or interpret old ones in such a way that they tie the hands of other wings of government or otherwise limit their own power.
Governments often tend to take more power gradually but often they're taking it from each other such as in the case of state governments vs federal or they're taking power away from their rivals such as with the different wings of governments like the courts vs the executive without always absorbing the powers in question themselves.
so if you must have governments make sure that wherever there are 2 voices there are soon 200.
trying to apply prison terms is of course impractical but in a purely financial arrangement there's little reason liability should be limited completely to money you've already put in.
otherwise if your mutual fund manager has to pick between 2 companies
1: one which has a 10% risk of going bankrupt and ending up with a net value of zero 2: one which has a 10% risk of going bankrupt spectacularly and ending up with a net value of -10 billion taking all their creditors and several local towns and banks down with them.
There is precisely the same level of risk and it's quite possible that the second one would be a far better investment because the payoff might be bigger.
jailing you for a companies actions makes little sense but holding you liable for 1% of the debt of a bankrupt company which you own 1% of is far more practical. You're profiting from it, why should you be shielded from the damage caused by your property?
Shareholders have little information partially because they don't want to know and they have no reason to want to know, if they weren't utterly shielded from liability then it would quickly change as people insisted on better information.
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if we just abuse our rights like this no wonder we get crazy politicians trying to remove them
I read this in the voice of a woman with a black eye saying something like "It was a door.... clumsy me.....really I should have had his meal ready when he got home.... "
You mean how he stayed in sweeden until they said he could leave?
or do you mean how he then turned himself in to the police in the UK when the Swedish government changed it's mind?
He's one of those rare people who are actually quite justified to assume conspiracy against him given how many of the post powerful people in the world he and his organisation has pissed off.
He could have hidden perfectly fine if he'd wanted to, there was at least one country(Ecuador) which offered him asylum with no strings attached.
Do some fucking research next time rather than parroting fox news as if they're a real news source.
One persons scandal is another persons boring drivel.
A dull little cable about a diplomat having a meeting about banking regulations can be a non story for most people while for a few it can unveil how a politician ignored advice that may have averted a crisis.
You mean where a politician that we like was privately urging other countries to keep sanctions in place to the detriment of his countries poor in the hope of putting pressure on his political rival while publicly denouncing those same sanctions?
It is absolutely a double edged sword since 2-faced people we like can be exposed lying just like people we don't like.
"boy discovers he's a wizard, has adventures" is not copyrightable.
but try writing a non-parody book about a boy wizard Larry Cotter who's parents are killed by Lord Woldemort who himself was almost killed in the attempt to kill that boy who now lives with non-magical step parents who hate magic who is then on his xth birthday suddently visited by a large and imposing groundskeeper who delcares that he's a wizard and whisks him off to a magical school where he quickly makes 2 friends and had adventures involving a magical train, a flying car, a tree which hits people, werewolves,giant spiders, dragons, a touranemt with a couple of others schools, some version of rugby/football played on broomsticks etc along with the evil overlord returning every book or so to try to kill him....
then you might be in trouble.
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/how-closely-can-my-novel-follow-the-plot-of-a-copy-141663.html
There's massive leeway given to being "inspired by" other work but if you rip someone's story off wholesale then you can end up in trouble.
"boy discovers he's a wizard, has adventures" is not copyrightable.
but try writing a non-parody book about a boy wizard Larry Cotter who's parents are killed by Lord Woldemort who himself was almost killed in the attempt to kill that boy who now lives with non-magical step parents who hate magic who is then on his xth birthday suddently visited by a large and imposing groundskeeper who delcares that he's a wizard and whisks him off to a magical school where he quickly makes 2 friends and had adventures involving a magical train, a flying car, a tree which hits people, werewolves,giant spiders, dragons, a touranemt with a couple of others schools, some version of rugby/football played on broomsticks etc along with the evil overlord returning every book or so to try to kill him....
then you might be in trouble.
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/how-closely-can-my-novel-follow-the-plot-of-a-copy-141663.html
The problem remains where to draw the line. The orphan who discovers that her parents were murdered by a villain and sets out to avenge their death is an unprotectable cliche. But every copyrightable work is a compendium of uncopyrightable components -- namely, words.
So looking at what you've written, those are such broad strokes that I would expect any US court to hold that it does not infringe JK Rowling's copyrights. Then again, if you were to keep to the outlines of what you describe, but were to divide and sequence the chapters precisely as JK Rowling did, I wouldn't be surprised if the court went the other way. Clearly on the other side of the line, if you were to scan and OCR a Harry Potter book and find and replace "wizard" with "solar knight" and "Voldemort" with "Galactina," you'd probably end up paying the fees of Ms. Rowling's lawyers.
there's massive leeway given to things being "inspired by" previous work but if you go too far you end up at the bad end of a copyright suite.
Because plots are copyrightable, the actual functionality of code is not.
Both the text and plot of a book can be copyrighted.
Only the actual text of a program can be copyrighted(along with it's machine code version of course).
Actually he cites a google search which is one step lower.
As to why such problems haven't been solved it's an issue that the problems which are actually solved become non-issues.
most of the worlds problems could be solved by a 5 year old if people were willing to actually follow advice like "stop shooting one another","don't seriously dick people over for trivial gains of your own" and "no it's not yours now just because you really want it and have a gun"
Marine radar is common and the cargo ships in question have to have systems to avoid hitting other smaller ships and any other floating hazards along with staff on duty at all time to watch for such things since hitting things is bad for ships.
Few things happen fast at sea so you've very likely to have time to wake someone up.
hell the pirates need to have a ladder lowered to them to get up on threat of using the RPG's on the ship.
In the case of the pirates getting too close to risk trying to kill them before they're close enough to fire the RPG's then you just drop the sniper rifle over the other side of the boat before you let the ladder down for them.
So the crew get a significant decrease in the chances of getting taken hostage and/or killed and it comes with a massive increase in risk for the pirates.
And the sniper can even have a another job most of the time as long as it keeps him close to the weapon and close to somewhere he can get a good shot.
"giving the impression that the government doesn't know what the government is doing"
I think you've hit the nail on the head right there.
I live in a country with a population similar to that of Sydney only spread out more and we pay less than half what you do for games even after our own 21% VAT is added.
there's plenty of population to support more competition in AU.
why have there been no successful actions to successfully address these concerns
such as?
lovely idea.
lets force every web host to only allow content in formats they themselves have the ability to read?
encrypted file? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it!
large binary file we don't recognise? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it!
Something in a language we don't know? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it!
Something in a format we can't read? Lets assume guilty until proven innocent! wipe it!
and we can completely and utterly forget any form of privacy, webmail providers should be checking all attachments as well to make sure nobody is emailing warez to each other and all text to make sure people aren't sharing ebooks.
Educate yourself.
The ACLU is a friend of religious freedom.
unfortunatly the world is full of people who want to force other people to conform to their own religon.
I'm guessing you're one such person who is annoyed that he can't take away the religious freedoms of others.
http://www.acluutah.org/defenseofreligion.htm
* The ACLU of New Jersey (2006) filed a friend-of-the-court brief asking a federal court to uphold an elementary school student's right to sing "Awesome God" in a voluntary, after-school talent show for which students selected their own material.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/schools/25799prs20060605.html
* The ACLU of Louisiana (2006) filed a lawsuit defending the free speech rights of a Christian who was protesting based on his religious beliefs. The man was chased away from the front of a Wal-Mart store where he was carrying a sign that read: "Christians: Wal-Mart Supports Gay Marriage and Gay Lifestyles. Don't Shop There."
www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/27266prs20061027.html
The ACLU of Rhode Island (2006) filed an appeal in federal court on behalf of an inmate who was barred from preaching during Christian religious services, as he had done for the past seven years under the supervision and support of prison clergy. The prisoner, Wesley Spratt, believes his preaching is a calling from God. Prison officials cited vague and unsubstantiated security reasons for imposing the preaching ban on Mr. Spratt. The ACLU argued that the ban violates the religious freedom guaranteed to Mr. Spratt under federal law.
www.riaclu.org/20060111.html
* The ACLU of Georgia (2006) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the Tabernacle Community Baptist Church charging that the city of East Point, Georgia violated a federal religious discrimination law when it denied the church a zoning permit needed to establish its house of worship.
www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/25518prs20060419.html
* The New York Civil Liberties Union (2006) challenged a New York State policy forbidding New York State prison guards to wear religious head coverings. The plaintiff, a devout Muslim, had worn a kufi while on duty for many years before he was told to remove it. Many other state agencies allow employees to wear religious head coverings while performing employment duties.
www.nyclu.org/haqq_complaint_pr_100506.html
* The ACLU (2006) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of the widow of a soldier killed in Afghanistan who seeks to have a Wiccan symbol included on her husband's headstone. The suit challenges the constitutionality of a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs policy that allows inclusion of many religious symbols on headstones in military cemeteries but excludes Wiccan symbols.
www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/26970prs20060929.html
www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/13/widows.suit.ap/index.html
* The ACLU of Maryland (2006) wrote a letter urging Howard County school officials to allow Muslim students to leave school to pray each Friday.
www.aclu-md.org/aPress/News%202006/060806_HCT.html
* The ACLU of Southern California (2006) filed suit on behalf of a Vietnamese Buddhist Temple (Quan Am Temple) against the City of Garden Grove and its officials for violating the congregation's First Amendment rights to free religious exercise and the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000. The complaint challenges the constitutionality of the City's zoning codes, as well as the City's application of the zoning codes to Quan Am Temple. In October, a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction allowing the congregation to assemble and practice their religion.
www.aclu-sc.org/News/Releases/2006/102100/
* The ACLU and its affiliates (1999-2006) have been instrumental supporters of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA), which gives religious organizations added protections in erecting religious
once someone tells them they're hosting copyrighted content they take it down.
Should they be rooting through my files, reading my documents and watching my home videos just to try to decide if it's copyrighted content (which they still won't know) before someone reports it?
never mind encrypted files.
any service he likes will be ok because he likes it and uses it for other things.
any service he doesn't like will be not ok because he doesn't like it and doesn't use it for anything himself hence (at least from his point of view)nobody is using it legitimately or the people who do use it legitimately don't count for one concocted reason or another.
I stand corrected.
most people I talked to there seemed convinced it was because of taxes but by the sound of it the stores are scamming you guys.
they follow the DMCA, they remove things when people report stuff to them.
I'm leaning against the guy in TFA yet I still percieve what you wrote as desperate reaching.
People who build roulette wheels intend for them to be truely random(or biased in the casinos favor), if someone then after watching thousands of spins works out that the wheel is flawed and certain numbers come up more often than pure chance would indicate have they clearly violated the anticipated design of the machine? no, they've played the game that was put in front of it and they used their brains.
The wheel claims they win, (I could throw in a "He they did, in fact, not win" but that would be simply false like what you wrote) if I wanted to distort the issue I could say that they manipulated the situation to make sure the wheel displayed the "you have won" state also known as the ball landing on the number they had bet on equivalently to a document purporting to entitle them to a large amount of cash.
But it was not produced as a result of a legitimate game of chance, which is what the machine is supposed to do. Instead it was produced as a result of deliberately placing bets on numbers more likely to come up.
when something involves electronics it doesn't magically change everything, roulette wheel or slot machine.
when I visited australia I learned that you guys have an absolutely and compltely utterly insane level of sales tax on anything which isn't food.
books, videos etc cost a minimum of twice as much in AU as my home country in europe.
It's the government scamming you, not the stores.
Yes, too many things have *aspects* which are appealing at first but which history has shown to tend towards situations which we don't really want.
Eugenics can start with the simple and reasonable goal of not wanting children to suffer horribly painful genetic diseases but history in the form of the nazi party showed that if you go too far down that road then being a member of an unpopular ethnic group is eventually cause enough for sterilisation or extermination so better to steer well clear entirely, it isn't worth it.
Hell the nazi party provides no shortage of warnings it's good to remember like
"never believe any government which is herding some segment of the population into cattle cars and tells everyone that they're really just going to live somewhere nice"
And perhaps most relevent lesson from history to elrous0:
"Das war ein Vorspiel nur, dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen."
Dwarf fortress in general takes this approach even so far as being used as a way to sugest priorities with the DF Eternal Suggestion Voting.
You can't sift through all the crap yourself but once you have a community who will hang out on your suggestions forum for you the dross of "oh, HAI! We should totally have quicktime events in this game cause they're awsome!" quickly gets burried by sane forum members while good ideas will get mostly positive attention.
I've heard that repeated many times yet governments often reduce their military, governments often bring in new laws or interpret old ones in such a way that they tie the hands of other wings of government or otherwise limit their own power.
Governments often tend to take more power gradually but often they're taking it from each other such as in the case of state governments vs federal or they're taking power away from their rivals such as with the different wings of governments like the courts vs the executive without always absorbing the powers in question themselves.
so if you must have governments make sure that wherever there are 2 voices there are soon 200.
and has it ever declare the current government null and void ever? for any reason? has it ever even come close?
trying to apply prison terms is of course impractical but in a purely financial arrangement there's little reason liability should be limited completely to money you've already put in.
otherwise if your mutual fund manager has to pick between 2 companies
1: one which has a 10% risk of going bankrupt and ending up with a net value of zero
2: one which has a 10% risk of going bankrupt spectacularly and ending up with a net value of -10 billion taking all their creditors and several local towns and banks down with them.
There is precisely the same level of risk and it's quite possible that the second one would be a far better investment because the payoff might be bigger.
jailing you for a companies actions makes little sense but holding you liable for 1% of the debt of a bankrupt company which you own 1% of is far more practical.
You're profiting from it, why should you be shielded from the damage caused by your property?
Shareholders have little information partially because they don't want to know and they have no reason to want to know, if they weren't utterly shielded from liability then it would quickly change as people insisted on better information.