Because of the many benefits associated with the use of XML, customers have demanded easy, robust support for XML, and Microsoft has answered them. Currently, Microsoft is concentrating on Microsoft Access and Excel--the applications in which XML can have the biggest impact.
Access and EXCEL? They just want to keep Word as proprietary as possible. Word is the one people can't get in or out of. Of course they don't want to focus on XML for Word. Jeash.. People have been able to export Access & Excel documents to tab deliminated files for years now. Thats why they're not worried about XLM for those apps. People can already do whatever they want to spreadsheet files, etc..
Customers need to be more pissed off at Microsoft so they force Word to use XML.
I think this version of StarOffice is honestly the first one that will be a real competitor to MS Office, but I think it will really only be used by small businesses and individuals. Large corporations are already dependent on Outlook/Exchange/macros to do their work, and I don't see any large corporations switching off of those anytime soon (especially since there is no real groupware solution that Sun offers that compares
Does Office 2000 or OfficeXP import/export XML documents? If so, are they using the XML standard or have they bastardized that too?
If they use Standard XML I can't see why more people could use StarOffice in a business. As long as they tell people to send the documents in XML format. But that depends on that getting into MSOffice.
It looks pretty much 99% the same under unix as windows. They built a ToolKit alot like GTK or KDE has. They comple cross platform and their toolkits make it all look the same cross platforms.
This is actually one of the things that kinda' upsets me also. Everyone is making a big deal at how it doesn't open Word Documents very well.... Well HECK, there isn't ANY support for opening WordPerfect documents. Being that this product is "OpenSource" wouldn't you think they'd throw in as many filters as possible to make it more competitive? I don't understand that. Could someone enlighten us, Please?
The problem with StarOffice is that it hasn't completely worked to import/export word/excel documents. Until that day people will never truly be able to switch to it. I would LOVE the company I work for to switch to this software. But until it's completely MSOffice complient nobody can use it.
And just as it gets good at opening MSOffice 97 docs. They change their document just enough to screw everyone over with the release of Office2000. And just as that starts to work they screw it up enough to not work with XP.
How hard is it REALLY to parse out Word Documents and have it work???? I haven't been involved in the project, but I would really like to hear some feedback to why nobody can open freaking word documents. The TRUTH.. not our typical "MS Just Sucks".
The other day I heard the best suggestion yet on what we should do to "pay back" for what they did to on Sept. 11, 2001. We should invest the billions of dollars into products like this hydrogen fuel cell for our cars, and us breaking away from using OIL products/bi-products in our everyday transportation instead of spending billions in bombing a few people.
This way we get rid of the mid eastern funds of doing terrorists attacks and make the U.S. self sufficiant and able to use our own oil for the rest of our needs and not be dependant on other nations for anything.
Invest in the U.S.A. and running them out of their money.
When I installed my AMD Athlon 900MHz several months ago my fan fell of for a few seconds. I went to grab my fan and my finger rubbed up against my processor for half a second as I reached to turn off my computer. My finger welted up in seconds leaving a large blister for several weeks. Infact I can STILL see the scar on my left index finger if I look hard enough.
To say the least, I will not be putting my fingers near an atlon processor without a fan on it ever again. I was lucky I didn't fry my processor along with my finger! I figured the thing would be HOT.. but not enough to melt my skin.. OUCH..
I got way into this "transmeta hype".. I thought it would be something awesome and rival all other CPU makers of today. When it all boils down, sure, they have a very cool software solution to make a "Almost as good" x86 processor. And I thought the point was supposed to be 'cheaper & less power'... Well.... that laptop costs $2000.00 and still requires a very hefty battery to last 5.5 hours.
I don't see the point... sorry. I'd rather buy the "real mccoy" PIII or Athlon Mobile processor instead of the Transmeta "low power" & "cheap" chip.
I don't know. There is someone at my work place that has been going through a divorce over the past year. She likes having the court records online so she can check it daily to see what is going on and where the paperwork has stopped.
But then again... I wouldn't have known about her divorce she was going through if her name hadn't popped up in a search that few of us were 'jokingly' putting in people's names into search engines seeing what we could "dig up"...
I not only found her divorce.. I found my sister's traffic tickets (where she actually had to goto court).. things on my brother.. things on other friends.. etc.. All in the comfort of my own home.
There's something to be said about getting up off your butt and going down to a location to dig up information on someone. When it's all at the tips of EVERYONE's fingertips.. people start pulling information for no reason other than just to see whats out there.
I think it's good to have records available to everyone.. and maybe even having stuff on the internet is good too.. but I think if records are public.. shouldn't there be a record of who has looked at the 'public records'? Isn't that public infomation too ??
People should have to get an ID to get the public records.. that way at least there's a small stepping stone to prying through people's information.. and since the information about ME I should know who looked at my information.
Just a thought...
Well... lets look at the other side for a second.
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Ok, lets imagine you run to the store and buy your new XBOX.. you run home.. plug it in.. turn it on... OH wait.. You don't have any games!
Now obviously we're talking about them bundling MS games with the XBOX.. but at least it will give you an idea of what kinds of games to expect from micro$oft and you can buy/not buy them again in the future.
So if it's like $399.00 with like 5 games.. thats not too bad.. But it would be nice to be able to choose from ANY games instead of just MS games.
I bought a cheap $60.00 cd player from Fry's Electronics the other day that plays regular AudioCD's and also can read DATA cd's with MP3's in the root directory. Works great.
Well, I remember back in 96 when mp3's were starting to get extreamly popular. People at that time were trading WAV files across the net and in news groups. MP3's were kinda' hard to come by. You had to goto someone's warez/mp3 site and links were usually broken, etc. But they gained more and more audiance every day. But sadly enough it didn't become the 'standard' until microsoft included it in the next release of windows.
Windows 98 had mp3 playing built into it. Thats when it completely became the standard. MP3's had made it extreamily far and were used by unix admins and warez puppies all over the world.. but was unknown to the every day user. Windows 98 and napster brough mp3's to the masses.
The world isn't crying for a new format like it was crying for mp3's. Unless this new format is smaller and sounds better, I don't think it stands a chance. Plus I don't imagine microsoft including Open Source code into their media player... kinda' like DivX...
My question is how much is microsoft actually comming up with themselves and how much are they hacking away from the opensource community? I heard that Active Directory is just bind with a microsoft twist to it. Is IIS just apache tweeked to hell and back?
Microsoft is combining a firewall with WindowsXP but did they actually write it or is it just ipchains? Is there any way we would ever really know if microsoft is using open source (GPL) code for their commercial purposes?
As part of the settlement, Microsoft will have all trademark rights to "Xbox," which is the name of Microsoft's new video game console system, and XBOX Technologies has agreed, in due course, to change its corporate name.
Interesting... this company (XBoxTechnologies) is publicly traded on Nasdaq as "XBOX". To change the name seems like it'll take quite some doing.. I guess MS musta' paid them all a very pretty penny.
Here's the link to see the price of their stock...
I'm a Unix Admin and C/Perl coder/scripter... I have had various degrees of these types of pains. They way I could remove them is taking three golf balls into the palms of my hands (palms up) and rotate the balls around for a few minutes each day. The pains went away with in weeks and have not had pains for quite some time now.
Every once in a while if I feel the pains to even start to come back.. i'll get the ol' three golf balls out for a few minutes....
I agree, people use windows because they're forced to. The OS runs on the cheapest hardware available (x86 is the cheapest hardware in the PC market) and has the most drivers and compatibility out there. I have tons "special" hardware that nobody plans to have it working with linux any time soon. I've researched it and wished I could get rid of windows long ago, but it's never going to happen. My best bet is to hope the OSX gets stable and bit the bullet and pay the big bucks for a good dual G4 or something. At least Apple is delivering desktop solutions. Linux is attempting, but failing to do what needs to be done to make it a desktop.
My point it, either do what apple did and put something out that is awesome that everyone will back, or give up. KDE and GNOME both suck. I liked afterstep or enlightenment better. As far as use ability and the way the GUI looks KDE and Gnome are worse than both MacOS and Windows. OSX rocks, it's just slow, but it will get it together but the main thing is it's good enough for corporate programs to back it and will put out commercial products that will be stable for OSX. Linux doesn't have much support for that.
Yes, linux has MAYA.. but thats it. It will get a few more here and there I'd imagine, but ONLY because OSX is out and people are porting things to OSX. They probably figure, well we need to port to OSX anyways, so we might as well port it to linux now too....
So linux is riding off of OSX whether they believe it or not...
The only problem with AMD is they still haven't delivered a working machine with more than one processor. Until they can give me a dual or quad processor system.. they're going to have to be TRUELY in second place..
Even if the 1.3G Athlon beats out a PIII or P4 system, if I get a PIII or P4 system with 4 or 8 processors in it, I'm sure that would kill an athlon system.
Question: Do you think AMD is holding off on releasing the 760MP Chipset (the multiprocessor chipset) because they don't know if they'll be able to keep up with demands once people start buying two or four processors at a time?
Why do we need a phone you can throw away?
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I mean that sounds fine for marketing... Buy a phone that has 600 minutes. After you use up the 600 minutes you just throw it away and buy a new phone.
At least hat'll make it easier to make anonymous phone calls!
Why don't we have TRUE Solid State drives yet? One solution that someone could use could be with NVRAM. What's wrong with that? Is NVRAM a slow technology? Is it expensive? Does it have a bottlenecking problem? No matter the cost, if it was a good product with no moving parts and doesn't require electricity to keep the data intact it would sell great!
I've seen those "Solid State" drives that are PCI Cards full of memory that require a power source. They're only as reliable as your battery backup is. If you battery backup fails, you loose all your data. They suggest the use of those drives for proxies, swap drives, caches of any sort. Not reliable data.
It's sad that every time anyone trys to do something to please us unix guys/gals we just tell them it's not good enough... I mean hell, GNOME is on the big screen and they're pushing Open Source! Sure, it would be nice to have good actors and decent lines, but they're starting to at least attempt to make it realistic...
Every time they try to please us somebody bags on them.. this movie for example, another example is Loki.. hardly anyone is BUYING their stuff... we all want all the games in the world ported to linux.. but nobody is buying them..
I dunno, just sad to see that even when they try to make us happy we don't return the favor.
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Here's Microsoft's Plans for XML. I think it's very interesting how they word things:
m /xmloffice.htm
.. People have been able to export Access & Excel documents to tab deliminated files for years now. Thats why they're not worried about XLM for those apps. People can already do whatever they want to spreadsheet files, etc..
Customers need to be more pissed off at Microsoft so they force Word to use XML.
http://www.microsoft.com/Office/developer/platfor
Because of the many benefits associated with the use of XML, customers have demanded easy, robust support for XML, and Microsoft has answered them. Currently, Microsoft is concentrating on Microsoft Access and Excel--the applications in which XML can have the biggest impact.
Access and EXCEL? They just want to keep Word as proprietary as possible. Word is the one people can't get in or out of. Of course they don't want to focus on XML for Word. Jeash
I think this version of StarOffice is honestly the first one that will be a real competitor to MS Office, but I think it will really only be used by small businesses and individuals. Large corporations are already dependent on Outlook/Exchange/macros to do their work, and I don't see any large corporations switching off of those anytime soon (especially since there is no real groupware solution that Sun offers that compares
Does Office 2000 or OfficeXP import/export XML documents? If so, are they using the XML standard or have they bastardized that too?
If they use Standard XML I can't see why more people could use StarOffice in a business. As long as they tell people to send the documents in XML format. But that depends on that getting into MSOffice.
It looks pretty much 99% the same under unix as windows. They built a ToolKit alot like GTK or KDE has. They comple cross platform and their toolkits make it all look the same cross platforms.
This is actually one of the things that kinda' upsets me also. Everyone is making a big deal at how it doesn't open Word Documents very well.... Well HECK, there isn't ANY support for opening WordPerfect documents. Being that this product is "OpenSource" wouldn't you think they'd throw in as many filters as possible to make it more competitive? I don't understand that. Could someone enlighten us, Please?
The problem with StarOffice is that it hasn't completely worked to import/export word/excel documents. Until that day people will never truly be able to switch to it. I would LOVE the company I work for to switch to this software. But until it's completely MSOffice complient nobody can use it.
.. not our typical "MS Just Sucks".
And just as it gets good at opening MSOffice 97 docs. They change their document just enough to screw everyone over with the release of Office2000. And just as that starts to work they screw it up enough to not work with XP.
How hard is it REALLY to parse out Word Documents and have it work???? I haven't been involved in the project, but I would really like to hear some feedback to why nobody can open freaking word documents. The TRUTH
This is on topic... trust me! =)
The other day I heard the best suggestion yet on what we should do to "pay back" for what they did to on Sept. 11, 2001. We should invest the billions of dollars into products like this hydrogen fuel cell for our cars, and us breaking away from using OIL products/bi-products in our everyday transportation instead of spending billions in bombing a few people.
This way we get rid of the mid eastern funds of doing terrorists attacks and make the U.S. self sufficiant and able to use our own oil for the rest of our needs and not be dependant on other nations for anything.
Invest in the U.S.A. and running them out of their money.
When I installed my AMD Athlon 900MHz several months ago my fan fell of for a few seconds. I went to grab my fan and my finger rubbed up against my processor for half a second as I reached to turn off my computer. My finger welted up in seconds leaving a large blister for several weeks. Infact I can STILL see the scar on my left index finger if I look hard enough.
.. but not enough to melt my skin .. OUCH ..
To say the least, I will not be putting my fingers near an atlon processor without a fan on it ever again. I was lucky I didn't fry my processor along with my finger! I figured the thing would be HOT
I got way into this "transmeta hype" .. I thought it would be something awesome and rival all other CPU makers of today. When it all boils down, sure, they have a very cool software solution to make a "Almost as good" x86 processor. And I thought the point was supposed to be 'cheaper & less power' ... Well.... that laptop costs $2000.00 and still requires a very hefty battery to last 5.5 hours.
... sorry. I'd rather buy the "real mccoy" PIII or Athlon Mobile processor instead of the Transmeta "low power" & "cheap" chip.
I don't see the point
I don't know. There is someone at my work place that has been going through a divorce over the past year. She likes having the court records online so she can check it daily to see what is going on and where the paperwork has stopped.
...
.. I found my sister's traffic tickets (where she actually had to goto court) .. things on my brother.. things on other friends .. etc.. All in the comfort of my own home.
.. people start pulling information for no reason other than just to see whats out there.
.. and maybe even having stuff on the internet is good too .. but I think if records are public .. shouldn't there be a record of who has looked at the 'public records'? Isn't that public infomation too ??
.. that way at least there's a small stepping stone to prying through people's information .. and since the information about ME I should know who looked at my information.
...
But then again... I wouldn't have known about her divorce she was going through if her name hadn't popped up in a search that few of us were 'jokingly' putting in people's names into search engines seeing what we could "dig up"
I not only found her divorce
There's something to be said about getting up off your butt and going down to a location to dig up information on someone. When it's all at the tips of EVERYONE's fingertips
I think it's good to have records available to everyone
People should have to get an ID to get the public records
Just a thought
Ok, lets imagine you run to the store and buy your new XBOX .. you run home .. plug it in .. turn it on ... OH wait.. You don't have any games!
.. but at least it will give you an idea of what kinds of games to expect from micro$oft and you can buy/not buy them again in the future.
.. But it would be nice to be able to choose from ANY games instead of just MS games.
Now obviously we're talking about them bundling MS games with the XBOX
So if it's like $399.00 with like 5 games.. thats not too bad
Coby MP-CD500
http://www.cobyusa.com/cdpersonal/mpcd500.htm
There were a bunch of different brands that had the MP3 capability.. I was shocked. But this one was of the cheepest that didn't like brittle. Ryan
I bought a cheap $60.00 cd player from Fry's Electronics the other day that plays regular AudioCD's and also can read DATA cd's with MP3's in the root directory. Works great.
Ryan
Well, I remember back in 96 when mp3's were starting to get extreamly popular. People at that time were trading WAV files across the net and in news groups. MP3's were kinda' hard to come by. You had to goto someone's warez/mp3 site and links were usually broken, etc. But they gained more and more audiance every day. But sadly enough it didn't become the 'standard' until microsoft included it in the next release of windows.
... kinda' like DivX ...
Windows 98 had mp3 playing built into it. Thats when it completely became the standard. MP3's had made it extreamily far and were used by unix admins and warez puppies all over the world.. but was unknown to the every day user. Windows 98 and napster brough mp3's to the masses.
The world isn't crying for a new format like it was crying for mp3's. Unless this new format is smaller and sounds better, I don't think it stands a chance. Plus I don't imagine microsoft including Open Source code into their media player
I dunno, guess we'll see.. ???
My question is how much is microsoft actually comming up with themselves and how much are they hacking away from the opensource community? I heard that Active Directory is just bind with a microsoft twist to it. Is IIS just apache tweeked to hell and back?
Microsoft is combining a firewall with WindowsXP but did they actually write it or is it just ipchains? Is there any way we would ever really know if microsoft is using open source (GPL) code for their commercial purposes?
http://download.microsoft.com/download/WinCEPlatfo rmBuilder/Update/3.0/NT5/EN-US/setup.exe
Well, I believe it also works when the water is colder than the air also.
My problem with OpenOffice/StarOffice is that it claims to be so "OPEN" .. but it can't even open wordperfect documents.. whats with that??
Here are some better names:
KDrawingNStuff
Killustration
Killustrating
Killustrate
As part of the settlement, Microsoft will have all trademark rights to "Xbox," which is the name of Microsoft's new video game console system, and XBOX Technologies has agreed, in due course, to change its corporate name.
... this company (XBoxTechnologies) is publicly traded on Nasdaq as "XBOX". To change the name seems like it'll take quite some doing .. I guess MS musta' paid them all a very pretty penny.
...
e =Stock&symbol=XBOX
Interesting
Here's the link to see the price of their stock
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/Quote.dll?page=multi&mod
I'm a Unix Admin and C/Perl coder/scripter ... I have had various degrees of these types of pains. They way I could remove them is taking three golf balls into the palms of my hands (palms up) and rotate the balls around for a few minutes each day. The pains went away with in weeks and have not had pains for quite some time now.
.. i'll get the ol' three golf balls out for a few minutes ....
Every once in a while if I feel the pains to even start to come back
Ryan
I agree, people use windows because they're forced to. The OS runs on the cheapest hardware available (x86 is the cheapest hardware in the PC market) and has the most drivers and compatibility out there. I have tons "special" hardware that nobody plans to have it working with linux any time soon. I've researched it and wished I could get rid of windows long ago, but it's never going to happen. My best bet is to hope the OSX gets stable and bit the bullet and pay the big bucks for a good dual G4 or something. At least Apple is delivering desktop solutions. Linux is attempting, but failing to do what needs to be done to make it a desktop.
.. but thats it. It will get a few more here and there I'd imagine, but ONLY because OSX is out and people are porting things to OSX. They probably figure, well we need to port to OSX anyways, so we might as well port it to linux now too ....
My point it, either do what apple did and put something out that is awesome that everyone will back, or give up. KDE and GNOME both suck. I liked afterstep or enlightenment better. As far as use ability and the way the GUI looks KDE and Gnome are worse than both MacOS and Windows. OSX rocks, it's just slow, but it will get it together but the main thing is it's good enough for corporate programs to back it and will put out commercial products that will be stable for OSX. Linux doesn't have much support for that.
Yes, linux has MAYA
So linux is riding off of OSX whether they believe it or not...
The only problem with AMD is they still haven't delivered a working machine with more than one processor. Until they can give me a dual or quad processor system .. they're going to have to be TRUELY in second place ..
Even if the 1.3G Athlon beats out a PIII or P4 system, if I get a PIII or P4 system with 4 or 8 processors in it, I'm sure that would kill an athlon system.
Question: Do you think AMD is holding off on releasing the 760MP Chipset (the multiprocessor chipset) because they don't know if they'll be able to keep up with demands once people start buying two or four processors at a time?
I mean that sounds fine for marketing... Buy a phone that has 600 minutes. After you use up the 600 minutes you just throw it away and buy a new phone.
At least hat'll make it easier to make anonymous phone calls!
Why don't we have TRUE Solid State drives yet? One solution that someone could use could be with NVRAM. What's wrong with that? Is NVRAM a slow technology? Is it expensive? Does it have a bottlenecking problem? No matter the cost, if it was a good product with no moving parts and doesn't require electricity to keep the data intact it would sell great!
I've seen those "Solid State" drives that are PCI Cards full of memory that require a power source. They're only as reliable as your battery backup is. If you battery backup fails, you loose all your data. They suggest the use of those drives for proxies, swap drives, caches of any sort. Not reliable data.
Ryan
It's sad that every time anyone trys to do something to please us unix guys/gals we just tell them it's not good enough ... I mean hell, GNOME is on the big screen and they're pushing Open Source! Sure, it would be nice to have good actors and decent lines, but they're starting to at least attempt to make it realistic ...
.. this movie for example, another example is Loki .. hardly anyone is BUYING their stuff ... we all want all the games in the world ported to linux .. but nobody is buying them..
Every time they try to please us somebody bags on them
I dunno, just sad to see that even when they try to make us happy we don't return the favor.