My preferred alternative to AC is ice cream! My favorites being New York Super Fudge Chunk and Americone Dream, but I'll eat whatever by the gallon bucket is cheapest at the market if it comes down to it.
PS in my case at least, my temperature preferences haven't changed at all with my weight. I've been as low as 180 and as high as 320. Actually that's not entirely true, before I put on so much weight I kept the house a couple degrees colder.
Most of that heavy commercial traffic is probably on the interstate system. So we could probably just turn the interstates into toll roads for them by collecting an appropriate fee when they stop at the weigh stations. That way you can avoid having to monitor and maintain GPS devices in every truck on the road.
Another method might be using all those automated license plate reading cameras we hear about periodically. Those are unlikely to go away any time soon, and the data they produce is going somewhere. I don't see why it couldn't be leveraged for road tax purposes. Although the fact that you could probably do such a thing might generate enough public ire to get them removed.
If it would truly be a problem it already is a problem. There is nothing stopping anyone in those cities from always buying their gas on the cheaper side of the state/county line already. I'm not trying to claim that it is a perfect system but it should be just as good as what we've got now.
In the USA the average for road taxes levied on gas sales is just under $0.50 per gallon. Fuel economy for cars and light trucks in 2012 averaged just over 23 miles per gallon. Granted there are lots of much older vehicles on the road that will bring the efficiency numbers down but I think the tax situation, at least in the US, should be pretty manageable if those taxes are shifted to a mileage based collection.
I think the reason the 8 year projection is unrealistic is that even the 13 years some other article prophesied a while back was unrealistic. That is that people simply don't replace their vehicles frequently enough for this to happen. It'd take more than 13 years to replace every car on the road today with electrics even if every manufacturer converted 100% of their production as of the beginning of 2017.
This article seems to address this in part by saying that new legislation would outlaw ICE vehicles. That would require unbelievable numbers of politicians committing political suicide, because passing such laws would effectively destroy a large percentage of their constituents wealth.
I think we're looking at 20 years minimum before electric vehicles reach anything like a majority in cars on the road. And frankly that's being optimistic. EV's are already good enough for 90% of the population and it simply comes down to cost and availability at this point. As people continue to buy EV's they'll eventually win through attrition as ICE's age out of the market more rapidly through just wear and tear as well as losing resale value more rapidly.
On the contrary I think a mileage based road tax that also takes into account the weight of the vehicle would be the simplest method for handling road taxes. Most states require you to renew your registration every year, simply add an odometer reading to this process. The mileage difference from the previous year is then used to calculate the road tax you owe and it's simply added to the cost of your registration renewal. If the cost of the renewal would be high offer the option of paying it off in monthly installments or something instead of one big lump. For most people though this cost would probably stay relatively low, given the average driver in the USA is probably paying $1 or less per day in road taxes. The only problems I can see with this kind of scheme is that people might try to cheat the odometer reading somehow, but that is an issue that has been around for a long time and is unlikely to change in a big way.
Indeed, where I work the email I get from on high is frequently littered with abbreviations and acronyms. Granted most of it wouldn't be mistaken for leet speak but it's the same attitude of expecting everyone else to understand what they mean so that they can be lazy. The number of spelling and grammar mistakes is also appalling, given that they are using the same email client as I do which handily identifies spelling and grammar mistakes.
I found a personal account for a user that had been using the same password for 14 years. He'd call in whenever it expired and convince someone to reset the timer for him. I think it makes sense for most systems to not bother ever expiring passwords, in other cases though changing them every quarter might be warranted. It really should depend on the importance of the data exposed in the system and the likelihood of a bad actor attempting to harvest passwords.
Blaming the poor economic situation in Cuba on their socialized healthcare system is a bit silly. The continued cause of their poor economy is more likely rooted in the trade embargo that the USA instituted more than half a century ago.
Not anywhere particularly nice, though I could have gone much much cheaper. My house was about quadruple the value of my annual salary at the time, though now even with it having gained value it's only about double my salary.
Housing costs are pretty insane in a lot of popular localities. To avoid that I've deliberately stayed in an area with low costs of living but still has employment opportunities. The pay around here isn't as high as you might find elsewhere but the cost of living makes up for it. I could have actually bought a house for under $20k but the neighborhood is pretty sketchy over that way.
I still buy dead tree books but most of my book reading is done on an e-reader now. I like to keep it in my car so I can read through my lunch break. I have to take it into the house once every few months to charge. Even when the battery gets low enough that it issues a warning you've got a couple hours of reading time left in my experience so it's not like it just instantly craps out when the battery gets low. That is of course more charging than any dead tree book will ever require but it is rare enough that I've never bemoaned it.
I do actually find the e-reader more comfortable to read from. I don't have to hold the e-reader open, I can just prop it on or against something and tap the screen to turn pages when necessary which is very useful when eating lunch in particular. The huge capacity to carry a library worth of books is great as I can read whatever suites my fancy at the time and when I finish a book I can just start another without having to exercise the forethought to have a second book at hand. The only thing that has ever actually given me any concern is the fragility inherent with a thin electronic device that is mostly screen.
I can see how an e-reader may not be an ideal fit for everyone, but you might be surprised at just how easily it might find a niche in your life.
I've picked up a lot of ebooks from the humble bundles. I usually keep my e-reader in the car for reading on lunch breaks. Or rather I did until it forgot it somewhere on an out of state vacation, now I've got to put up with trying to read on a tablet. I think a new e-reader is definitely in my future.
It would seem that there is a lot of ignorance floating around on this topic. This kind of assistance is exactly what various states and the Fed have been implementing for years now to address the problem of the chronically homeless. And contrary to what many would like to think it seems to have a high success rate. However that doesn't mean it's some kind of magic bullet that instantly fixes everything as there are constantly new people becoming chronically homeless and more resources can obviously help. Here's a good NPR article from awhile back talking about such an implementation in Utah:
It sounds like both of you failed to diversify investments. I started buying a very reasonable house in my mid twenties. That is a house which I could still afford to pay for if I had to flip burgers to get by. Retirement savings go into market indexed funds which are long term, multi decade investments. Day to day savings piles up in the bank/credit union accounts until such a point that some of it either gets moved to or spent on other investments.
The crash in 2008 sucked but it was mostly damage on paper and worked its self out within a couple years. My house value took a hit in 2008 I'm sure but I didn't need to sell it and so just carried on as usual. When I refinanced the mortgage a few years later to lower the interest rate by a couple whole points the requisite appraisal showed a sizable increase in value from the purchase price.
National defense has rarely been about preserving the average Joes life. Maybe about a way of life, but not the lives of most ordinary citizens. Massacres of civilians stand out in the history of warfare specifically because they were a part of what was being fought over and killing them was ruining part of the resources.
If you're an ordinary citizen you have little to lose in comparison to a rich person in the event that your country is successfully invade by another. You'll likely still find some crappy job and continue to eek out a living. If you're rich though it is very likely that much of your wealth will be taken as part of the spoils of war and you'll be left on a level with the average citizen.
Power companies have been using pumped hydro as storage for over production for years. In off peak periods when they would otherwise need to reduce plant output because demand has dropped off they instead run pumps to move water uphill. Then when the peak usage periods hit they can let the water flow back down hill through turbines to provide some extra power. They do this because reducing the output of those plants in the off peak periods makes what they are producing more expensive by lowering efficiency. And it's not just the power producers that do it, other companies have done it to make money via arbitrage because they can buy power to pump the water on the cheap late at night, and then get paid more for it during the daytime.
I wonder what the numbers would be like to build an artificial tidal stream system on land. Build two large holding pools or tanks separated by some large distance and connected by a pipe that is run as straight as possible. Then mount a turbine in the pipe to harvest energy from whatever tidal stream manifests.
I wonder how far the pools would have to be separated and how large they would need to be. Though I suppose those numbers could vary infinitely and it would just change how much energy could be harvested. I imagine the pipe and turbine would be the limiting factors at some point given that they'd have to handle some very high pressures if the system was large enough.
If your support for abortion is purely about a woman's right to make decisions about her body, then yes.
If your objection to abortion is based on the view that a fetus, at whatever arbitrary stage, is a human then I expect it wouldn't change anything for you.
I think that depends a lot on how the money is being saved. If it's stashed under a mattress or buried in the rose bed inside mason jars, then I agree it doesn't add to the economy. However any money saved in a bank account or similar isn't just sitting there. The bank makes loans to other people and entities using the cash it receives as deposits to savings accounts. So that money is making its way into the economy just not directly at a consumer level.
Whether or not it is of immediate use to the economy or not is kind of irrelevant because currently a huge portion of the US population doesn't have any kind of cash reserve and so what should be a minor unexpected hiccups turn into crisis. For instance say you or a dependent parks somewhere that annoys someone else and they get your vehicle towed. Happened to a roommate of mine, he parked in front of someones house on a public street, they reported his car as abandoned and had it towed off within 20 minutes of him parking it. It cost him about $200 to reclaim his car from the tow yard the same day as they towed it off. If he hadn't had the cash to do that he would have started racking up extra charges for each day he failed to retrieve it, and very rapidly it could be no longer worth reclaiming. Without a car he could have lost his job and started racking up bills very rapidly. So maybe we don't want people keeping hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings accounts, but everyone should strive to keep a paycheck or two in the bank just in case.
I know I've seen the idea of taxing wealth commonly derided in the past seemingly with mountains of evidence of why it's worse than taxing income. That said I'm not an economist and can't remember much about why so I'll just point out what I can think of off the cuff.
1. Taxing wealth directly makes it much harder for people to actually build wealth over time as eventually significant portions of your income will be eaten up by it if you're trying to build enough wealth for retirement.
2. Such a policy might encourage people to save even less than they do now and instead fritter away income on intangibles resulting in more rapid accumulation of wealth in the pockets of fewer individuals who can afford to buy their way around the wealth taxes and or have the income to support just paying it.
We do actually already have some wealth taxes implemented, property and estate taxes come to mind. I'd rather see the tax code simplified by just eliminating the special treatment for edge cases, and treat all income as income regardless of its source. Rebalance the tax brackets accordingly and move on. The income tax code that most people actually deal with isn't that bad. I file an itemized return every year and it only takes about two hours to sort out when I actually sit down to do it. I'd prefer a system that just presents me with the pre-filled forms and asks for me to file an objection or sign off on it, but what we've got is tolerable for individuals.
I want my cake and to eat it as well, that's all really. It's great that they are investing in the super charger network. But it's going to take a long while for the network to become ubiquitous enough that you don't have to plan your routes around them. The advantage of having a generator, built in or on a trailer, is that you could still take those rest breaks to eat and stretch and have the car charging the whole time, but you wouldn't be tied to the super charger station's immediate vicinity.
I get the distinct feeling that you don't understand how the mod system works here on Slashdot. Your post was likely down modded such that you can't see it anymore with whatever filter settings you have. If you had posted as a registered user you could go back and actually examine your posting history to find it. It is also possible that the site crapped the bed when you hit post and lost it in the shuffle.
With that out of the way, I would agree that UBI and Minimum Wage are related. Mainly they are related in that they would likely be distributed using the same currency. Additionally as UBI approaches whatever the actual minimum living salary would be then minimum wage could and should be proportionately reduced until such time as it is eliminated. The whole point of UBI is to provide for the minimum requirements of living, which was the point of minimum wage from the beginning. The aims of both systems is the same, but minimum wage is likely to fall by the wayside because we are approaching the point at which there may not be enough jobs for those willing to work in our society. If and when we hit that point potentially very large numbers of people could become disenfranchised by the current system and left with the decision to let their family die quietly of starvation and exposure, or attempt to seize the means to survive possibly through violence.
Historically there has always been the possibility of emigrating elsewhere. Finding a place where you can settle to provide a subsistence level of survival for yourself or a family is a thing of the past. The Earth has been measured and claimed for a long time now, anywhere that you might think to go is going to have an owner already who is unlikely to just give it away.
What's the citation for the 30 million years with nothing eating dead wood. I've always heard that it was wood and other plant matter that was deposited in bogs and protected from bacteria by acidic water and mud. 30 million years seems like an inordinately long time for a bacterium to go before evolving to eat such an abundant food source.
I wish Tesla had stuck with the original plan of including a small gas powered generator. That said I'm pretty sure that as the Model 3 gains market share you'll see someone commercially producing a small efficient generator on an attractive trailer complete with matching body styling and signal lights. Then you can either buy one to keep in a shed until you need it for long trips or rent one from a place like U-Haul or something.
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My preferred alternative to AC is ice cream! My favorites being New York Super Fudge Chunk and Americone Dream, but I'll eat whatever by the gallon bucket is cheapest at the market if it comes down to it.
PS in my case at least, my temperature preferences haven't changed at all with my weight. I've been as low as 180 and as high as 320. Actually that's not entirely true, before I put on so much weight I kept the house a couple degrees colder.
Most of that heavy commercial traffic is probably on the interstate system. So we could probably just turn the interstates into toll roads for them by collecting an appropriate fee when they stop at the weigh stations. That way you can avoid having to monitor and maintain GPS devices in every truck on the road.
Another method might be using all those automated license plate reading cameras we hear about periodically. Those are unlikely to go away any time soon, and the data they produce is going somewhere. I don't see why it couldn't be leveraged for road tax purposes. Although the fact that you could probably do such a thing might generate enough public ire to get them removed.
If it would truly be a problem it already is a problem. There is nothing stopping anyone in those cities from always buying their gas on the cheaper side of the state/county line already. I'm not trying to claim that it is a perfect system but it should be just as good as what we've got now.
In the USA the average for road taxes levied on gas sales is just under $0.50 per gallon. Fuel economy for cars and light trucks in 2012 averaged just over 23 miles per gallon. Granted there are lots of much older vehicles on the road that will bring the efficiency numbers down but I think the tax situation, at least in the US, should be pretty manageable if those taxes are shifted to a mileage based collection.
I think the reason the 8 year projection is unrealistic is that even the 13 years some other article prophesied a while back was unrealistic. That is that people simply don't replace their vehicles frequently enough for this to happen. It'd take more than 13 years to replace every car on the road today with electrics even if every manufacturer converted 100% of their production as of the beginning of 2017.
This article seems to address this in part by saying that new legislation would outlaw ICE vehicles. That would require unbelievable numbers of politicians committing political suicide, because passing such laws would effectively destroy a large percentage of their constituents wealth.
I think we're looking at 20 years minimum before electric vehicles reach anything like a majority in cars on the road. And frankly that's being optimistic. EV's are already good enough for 90% of the population and it simply comes down to cost and availability at this point. As people continue to buy EV's they'll eventually win through attrition as ICE's age out of the market more rapidly through just wear and tear as well as losing resale value more rapidly.
On the contrary I think a mileage based road tax that also takes into account the weight of the vehicle would be the simplest method for handling road taxes. Most states require you to renew your registration every year, simply add an odometer reading to this process. The mileage difference from the previous year is then used to calculate the road tax you owe and it's simply added to the cost of your registration renewal. If the cost of the renewal would be high offer the option of paying it off in monthly installments or something instead of one big lump. For most people though this cost would probably stay relatively low, given the average driver in the USA is probably paying $1 or less per day in road taxes. The only problems I can see with this kind of scheme is that people might try to cheat the odometer reading somehow, but that is an issue that has been around for a long time and is unlikely to change in a big way.
Indeed, where I work the email I get from on high is frequently littered with abbreviations and acronyms. Granted most of it wouldn't be mistaken for leet speak but it's the same attitude of expecting everyone else to understand what they mean so that they can be lazy. The number of spelling and grammar mistakes is also appalling, given that they are using the same email client as I do which handily identifies spelling and grammar mistakes.
I found a personal account for a user that had been using the same password for 14 years. He'd call in whenever it expired and convince someone to reset the timer for him. I think it makes sense for most systems to not bother ever expiring passwords, in other cases though changing them every quarter might be warranted. It really should depend on the importance of the data exposed in the system and the likelihood of a bad actor attempting to harvest passwords.
Blaming the poor economic situation in Cuba on their socialized healthcare system is a bit silly. The continued cause of their poor economy is more likely rooted in the trade embargo that the USA instituted more than half a century ago.
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Not anywhere particularly nice, though I could have gone much much cheaper. My house was about quadruple the value of my annual salary at the time, though now even with it having gained value it's only about double my salary.
Housing costs are pretty insane in a lot of popular localities. To avoid that I've deliberately stayed in an area with low costs of living but still has employment opportunities. The pay around here isn't as high as you might find elsewhere but the cost of living makes up for it. I could have actually bought a house for under $20k but the neighborhood is pretty sketchy over that way.
I still buy dead tree books but most of my book reading is done on an e-reader now. I like to keep it in my car so I can read through my lunch break. I have to take it into the house once every few months to charge. Even when the battery gets low enough that it issues a warning you've got a couple hours of reading time left in my experience so it's not like it just instantly craps out when the battery gets low. That is of course more charging than any dead tree book will ever require but it is rare enough that I've never bemoaned it.
I do actually find the e-reader more comfortable to read from. I don't have to hold the e-reader open, I can just prop it on or against something and tap the screen to turn pages when necessary which is very useful when eating lunch in particular. The huge capacity to carry a library worth of books is great as I can read whatever suites my fancy at the time and when I finish a book I can just start another without having to exercise the forethought to have a second book at hand. The only thing that has ever actually given me any concern is the fragility inherent with a thin electronic device that is mostly screen.
I can see how an e-reader may not be an ideal fit for everyone, but you might be surprised at just how easily it might find a niche in your life.
I've picked up a lot of ebooks from the humble bundles. I usually keep my e-reader in the car for reading on lunch breaks. Or rather I did until it forgot it somewhere on an out of state vacation, now I've got to put up with trying to read on a tablet. I think a new e-reader is definitely in my future.
It would seem that there is a lot of ignorance floating around on this topic. This kind of assistance is exactly what various states and the Fed have been implementing for years now to address the problem of the chronically homeless. And contrary to what many would like to think it seems to have a high success rate. However that doesn't mean it's some kind of magic bullet that instantly fixes everything as there are constantly new people becoming chronically homeless and more resources can obviously help. Here's a good NPR article from awhile back talking about such an implementation in Utah:
http://www.npr.org/2015/12/10/...
It sounds like both of you failed to diversify investments. I started buying a very reasonable house in my mid twenties. That is a house which I could still afford to pay for if I had to flip burgers to get by. Retirement savings go into market indexed funds which are long term, multi decade investments. Day to day savings piles up in the bank/credit union accounts until such a point that some of it either gets moved to or spent on other investments.
The crash in 2008 sucked but it was mostly damage on paper and worked its self out within a couple years. My house value took a hit in 2008 I'm sure but I didn't need to sell it and so just carried on as usual. When I refinanced the mortgage a few years later to lower the interest rate by a couple whole points the requisite appraisal showed a sizable increase in value from the purchase price.
And the defense bit would have meant no standing army and a very limited navy, relying on militias for national defense.
National defense has rarely been about preserving the average Joes life. Maybe about a way of life, but not the lives of most ordinary citizens. Massacres of civilians stand out in the history of warfare specifically because they were a part of what was being fought over and killing them was ruining part of the resources.
If you're an ordinary citizen you have little to lose in comparison to a rich person in the event that your country is successfully invade by another. You'll likely still find some crappy job and continue to eek out a living. If you're rich though it is very likely that much of your wealth will be taken as part of the spoils of war and you'll be left on a level with the average citizen.
Power companies have been using pumped hydro as storage for over production for years. In off peak periods when they would otherwise need to reduce plant output because demand has dropped off they instead run pumps to move water uphill. Then when the peak usage periods hit they can let the water flow back down hill through turbines to provide some extra power. They do this because reducing the output of those plants in the off peak periods makes what they are producing more expensive by lowering efficiency. And it's not just the power producers that do it, other companies have done it to make money via arbitrage because they can buy power to pump the water on the cheap late at night, and then get paid more for it during the daytime.
I wonder what the numbers would be like to build an artificial tidal stream system on land. Build two large holding pools or tanks separated by some large distance and connected by a pipe that is run as straight as possible. Then mount a turbine in the pipe to harvest energy from whatever tidal stream manifests.
I wonder how far the pools would have to be separated and how large they would need to be. Though I suppose those numbers could vary infinitely and it would just change how much energy could be harvested. I imagine the pipe and turbine would be the limiting factors at some point given that they'd have to handle some very high pressures if the system was large enough.
Yes, no, and maybe.
If your support for abortion is purely about a woman's right to make decisions about her body, then yes.
If your objection to abortion is based on the view that a fetus, at whatever arbitrary stage, is a human then I expect it wouldn't change anything for you.
I think that depends a lot on how the money is being saved. If it's stashed under a mattress or buried in the rose bed inside mason jars, then I agree it doesn't add to the economy. However any money saved in a bank account or similar isn't just sitting there. The bank makes loans to other people and entities using the cash it receives as deposits to savings accounts. So that money is making its way into the economy just not directly at a consumer level.
Whether or not it is of immediate use to the economy or not is kind of irrelevant because currently a huge portion of the US population doesn't have any kind of cash reserve and so what should be a minor unexpected hiccups turn into crisis. For instance say you or a dependent parks somewhere that annoys someone else and they get your vehicle towed. Happened to a roommate of mine, he parked in front of someones house on a public street, they reported his car as abandoned and had it towed off within 20 minutes of him parking it. It cost him about $200 to reclaim his car from the tow yard the same day as they towed it off. If he hadn't had the cash to do that he would have started racking up extra charges for each day he failed to retrieve it, and very rapidly it could be no longer worth reclaiming. Without a car he could have lost his job and started racking up bills very rapidly. So maybe we don't want people keeping hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings accounts, but everyone should strive to keep a paycheck or two in the bank just in case.
Ha, that is very cool. I had never heard of this before today. Thank you for the link!
I know I've seen the idea of taxing wealth commonly derided in the past seemingly with mountains of evidence of why it's worse than taxing income. That said I'm not an economist and can't remember much about why so I'll just point out what I can think of off the cuff.
1. Taxing wealth directly makes it much harder for people to actually build wealth over time as eventually significant portions of your income will be eaten up by it if you're trying to build enough wealth for retirement.
2. Such a policy might encourage people to save even less than they do now and instead fritter away income on intangibles resulting in more rapid accumulation of wealth in the pockets of fewer individuals who can afford to buy their way around the wealth taxes and or have the income to support just paying it.
We do actually already have some wealth taxes implemented, property and estate taxes come to mind. I'd rather see the tax code simplified by just eliminating the special treatment for edge cases, and treat all income as income regardless of its source. Rebalance the tax brackets accordingly and move on. The income tax code that most people actually deal with isn't that bad. I file an itemized return every year and it only takes about two hours to sort out when I actually sit down to do it. I'd prefer a system that just presents me with the pre-filled forms and asks for me to file an objection or sign off on it, but what we've got is tolerable for individuals.
I want my cake and to eat it as well, that's all really. It's great that they are investing in the super charger network. But it's going to take a long while for the network to become ubiquitous enough that you don't have to plan your routes around them. The advantage of having a generator, built in or on a trailer, is that you could still take those rest breaks to eat and stretch and have the car charging the whole time, but you wouldn't be tied to the super charger station's immediate vicinity.
I get the distinct feeling that you don't understand how the mod system works here on Slashdot. Your post was likely down modded such that you can't see it anymore with whatever filter settings you have. If you had posted as a registered user you could go back and actually examine your posting history to find it. It is also possible that the site crapped the bed when you hit post and lost it in the shuffle.
With that out of the way, I would agree that UBI and Minimum Wage are related. Mainly they are related in that they would likely be distributed using the same currency. Additionally as UBI approaches whatever the actual minimum living salary would be then minimum wage could and should be proportionately reduced until such time as it is eliminated. The whole point of UBI is to provide for the minimum requirements of living, which was the point of minimum wage from the beginning. The aims of both systems is the same, but minimum wage is likely to fall by the wayside because we are approaching the point at which there may not be enough jobs for those willing to work in our society. If and when we hit that point potentially very large numbers of people could become disenfranchised by the current system and left with the decision to let their family die quietly of starvation and exposure, or attempt to seize the means to survive possibly through violence.
Historically there has always been the possibility of emigrating elsewhere. Finding a place where you can settle to provide a subsistence level of survival for yourself or a family is a thing of the past. The Earth has been measured and claimed for a long time now, anywhere that you might think to go is going to have an owner already who is unlikely to just give it away.
What's the citation for the 30 million years with nothing eating dead wood. I've always heard that it was wood and other plant matter that was deposited in bogs and protected from bacteria by acidic water and mud. 30 million years seems like an inordinately long time for a bacterium to go before evolving to eat such an abundant food source.
I wish Tesla had stuck with the original plan of including a small gas powered generator. That said I'm pretty sure that as the Model 3 gains market share you'll see someone commercially producing a small efficient generator on an attractive trailer complete with matching body styling and signal lights. Then you can either buy one to keep in a shed until you need it for long trips or rent one from a place like U-Haul or something.