After RTFA (which does not even mention GPL) and the gs-devel post, it would seem that the lawsuit most likely centers around their in-house "AFPL" which apparently forbids commercial usage (regardless of source availability). One would have to find the actual filing to know for sure.
I guess I should have bolded the "Common Sense Definition of a Car", as the flamers react to the first sentence only...
The point is NOT whether it meets some dictionary definition of a car (for which there will always be some real-world usage mismatch), but whether it is a car in any real & reasonable sense. I merely am proposing that it is not, not to a car guy! Just as ATV's aren't cars, trucks aren't cars, buses aren't cars.
The point of the post is to say it's not about cars or applicable to cars in any real shape or manner--because it has exactly zero relevance to anything car-related (you could argue something about aerodynamics and downforce here, but you've likely learned all you need to know about this at about 750 mph slower).
As for an F1, NASCAR, etc... You could drive them to work and probably get where you're going (safety/legal issues aside). You wouldn't get anywhere with this thing.
True, but I never claimed there wasn't image manipulation going on. I just wasn't going to shed many tears for the poor reporters, when there are 1.3 Billion Chinese suffering the same restrictions.
Really, this only appears to be an issue if you are a reporter (and perhaps athelete and/or random attendee). So, you show up at your hotel or Dorm, or whatever, and you get the same censored internet that every Chinese national gets. Do you expect all the rules to be lifted because you are special? Wouldn't it be hypocritical to give you unfettered access to the internet while the citizens do not? It would be an administrative headache and to what end? If you don't like it, fly home and use your own damn ISP.
I'm not defending the filtering of the internet, but don't really understand why guests to the country would/should be treated differently... I would guess that the Falun Gong and Amnesty International are blocked for Chinese nationals too.
I wonder if they will start taking this more seriously and treating these people like criminals. I mean really...guy steals some property and can get years in a place a little more harsh than this dorm style prison. This guy stole bandwidth, and while it is an intangible thing, ultimately the total cost of his crap cost people FAR more than the value of the crap you could carry out of a pawn shop. I vote send his ass to a real prison.
This sounds well and good, but the reality of the situation is cost. Higher Security = Higher Cost. I'm pissed enough that my tax dollars are going to babysit drug dealers, rapists, and murderers--but at least I'm paying to keep them off the street.
I'm guess I'm OK with paying some amount to put spammers in jail, but I'm not OK with increasing that cost just because spam is annoying.
There is a point at which these costs far exceed the benefit (ie the benefit at laughing at the bastards as the get ***-pounded).
Having said that, he will and should get thrown in a higher-security "camp" when he gets caught.
Natural Gas because one of the sponsors is Shell Oil. They've got lots of excess Natural Gas that is being burnt straight into the atmosphere during oil drilling. Using that burn to actually do something useful is a step forward (if the burn is inevitable).
Unless this is done with Nuclear Power (or solar/hydroelectric/wind/tidalelectric), this is a net CO2 loser. Anything else will pretty much fail if the Goal is to cause CO2 reduction.
Try to imaging the transportation of VAST Quantities of Lime around the oceans without the burning of fossil fuels... nope..
If you re-RTFA. you'll see the proposal is to capture and use the energy in places it is currently "stranded"--e.g. the middle of the desert in Australia has lots-o-guaranteed-sun. So, they do try to address this.
However, your comment on "imaging" [sic] the transportation of the lime (from assumedly very remote locations), is a concern. No idea what the math says on that.
1. Tone is funny. Does not pretend to be scientific, but rather a position paper.
2. Note, study does not include Server/Mainframe software.
3. Basically, they take the Sales Quantities and divide by Install quantities to get "Legitimate Installation" percentage. The install quantities are based on surveys from 100 folks in each state and extrapolated to the state level.
4. Open source software is theoretically included. It's fairly easy to track installs for this (assuming the interviewee's include these in their responses and are honest). However, I have no idea how the shipments end of open source would be calculated (seeing as most of it is likely downloaded). Thus, it's possible that open source is causing the perceived piracy rate to be increased, lol (note, it is stated that lost economic value of OSS is zero).
Written like a true 40 point IQ Lib-retard-ian. As long as the program doesn't cost you money you don't care what the benefits are.
The purpose of government is to control the people - that means business people too. It costs money to control those people - REAL MONEY.
Now go sit in the corner and play with yourselves.
Umh, OK.
The question was not whether this is an appropriate use of government. The question is, is it a success? (which to us that live in the real world means: did you accomplish your goals?)
No go sit in a corner and adjust your tinfoil hat.
1. Cost onus is on the callers (i.e. I don't have to pay some fee to put my name on the list--the telemarketers have to pay to get it or risk breaking the law).
2. I have no idea what the costs associated with running the lists are, but 21M for 1 year in fees sounds pretty good. A government program that doesn't waste a lot of money--hallelujah.
3. It has the desired effect. 91% with decreased unwanted calls.
My gf worked for a telemarketer for 1 week before she quit out of frustration. They used a computer system that had thousands of scripted responses for any reason imaginable a person would use to reject an offer. The phone numbers were automatically dialed by the computer and when a number popped up that was on the DNC list you got a warning message on your screen. Of course everyone was told to ignore the message and make the call anyways. We later reported them to the police.
Tele marketers can choose to ignore the DNC list.
And I can choose to ignore stop signs, drug laws, et cetera. It doesn't make the law/list BS (which it may or may not be). The question is how effective is the policing of it--there are no cops waiting by your phone, so the onus is on you to report any violations.
I read it three times, and it seems pretty standard. Basically, it's mostly about links to non-official websites and standards those outside sites must meet. It's no different than the rules that most corporations place on user-maintainable CMS systems.
Note: it never discusses approval of any particular piece of content (except to the extent that official postings already have to meet certain standards), just having pre-approved sites.
I suspect that was an allusion to the increased gravity that could turn a 1lb laptop into a 269lb one... No doubt someone will be along to provide the correct weight of the Eee PC 904 on the surface of Jupiter before too long...
1. Calculate the 1.36kg weight of eeePC 904 as being 3.215kg on Jupiter
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After RTFA (which does not even mention GPL) and the gs-devel post, it would seem that the lawsuit most likely centers around their in-house "AFPL" which apparently forbids commercial usage (regardless of source availability). One would have to find the actual filing to know for sure.
The point is NOT whether it meets some dictionary definition of a car (for which there will always be some real-world usage mismatch), but whether it is a car in any real & reasonable sense. I merely am proposing that it is not, not to a car guy! Just as ATV's aren't cars, trucks aren't cars, buses aren't cars.
The point of the post is to say it's not about cars or applicable to cars in any real shape or manner--because it has exactly zero relevance to anything car-related (you could argue something about aerodynamics and downforce here, but you've likely learned all you need to know about this at about 750 mph slower). As for an F1, NASCAR, etc... You could drive them to work and probably get where you're going (safety/legal issues aside). You wouldn't get anywhere with this thing.
1. You can't (and won't ever be able to) buy one.
2. You can only drive it at speed on salt flats.
3. You can't drive it on public roads (driver and pedestrian safety, shooting flames of death, etc).
4. Even if you could drive it on-road, its turning radius is probably a mile!
A better title might be "British team seeks to break land speed record, again." or even better "Yaaaawn"
What I see is a comparison of several actual sentences and a theoretical maximum sentence. The two, at least in the US, tend to differ widely.
True, but I never claimed there wasn't image manipulation going on. I just wasn't going to shed many tears for the poor reporters, when there are 1.3 Billion Chinese suffering the same restrictions.
Really, this only appears to be an issue if you are a reporter (and perhaps athelete and/or random attendee). So, you show up at your hotel or Dorm, or whatever, and you get the same censored internet that every Chinese national gets. Do you expect all the rules to be lifted because you are special? Wouldn't it be hypocritical to give you unfettered access to the internet while the citizens do not? It would be an administrative headache and to what end? If you don't like it, fly home and use your own damn ISP.
I'm not defending the filtering of the internet, but don't really understand why guests to the country would/should be treated differently... I would guess that the Falun Gong and Amnesty International are blocked for Chinese nationals too.
I wonder if they will start taking this more seriously and treating these people like criminals. I mean really...guy steals some property and can get years in a place a little more harsh than this dorm style prison. This guy stole bandwidth, and while it is an intangible thing, ultimately the total cost of his crap cost people FAR more than the value of the crap you could carry out of a pawn shop. I vote send his ass to a real prison.
This sounds well and good, but the reality of the situation is cost. Higher Security = Higher Cost. I'm pissed enough that my tax dollars are going to babysit drug dealers, rapists, and murderers--but at least I'm paying to keep them off the street.
I'm guess I'm OK with paying some amount to put spammers in jail, but I'm not OK with increasing that cost just because spam is annoying.
There is a point at which these costs far exceed the benefit (ie the benefit at laughing at the bastards as the get ***-pounded).
Having said that, he will and should get thrown in a higher-security "camp" when he gets caught.
Natural Gas because one of the sponsors is Shell Oil. They've got lots of excess Natural Gas that is being burnt straight into the atmosphere during oil drilling. Using that burn to actually do something useful is a step forward (if the burn is inevitable).
Unless this is done with Nuclear Power (or solar/hydroelectric/wind/tidalelectric), this is a net CO2 loser. Anything else will pretty much fail if the Goal is to cause CO2 reduction. Try to imaging the transportation of VAST Quantities of Lime around the oceans without the burning of fossil fuels... nope..
If you re-RTFA. you'll see the proposal is to capture and use the energy in places it is currently "stranded"--e.g. the middle of the desert in Australia has lots-o-guaranteed-sun. So, they do try to address this.
However, your comment on "imaging" [sic] the transportation of the lime (from assumedly very remote locations), is a concern. No idea what the math says on that.
I think you might be thinking of Lye.
Too much acid? Try it shifting it the opposite way (to the alkaline side). It may still be Epic Fail, but in the other direction.
Reader's Digest version: Firefox rules, IE users are silly old grandmothers, blah, blah, blah.
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IDC Global Study Methodology Details
Economic Input Methodology
Comments on the contents:
1. Tone is funny. Does not pretend to be scientific, but rather a position paper.
2. Note, study does not include Server/Mainframe software.
3. Basically, they take the Sales Quantities and divide by Install quantities to get "Legitimate Installation" percentage. The install quantities are based on surveys from 100 folks in each state and extrapolated to the state level.
4. Open source software is theoretically included. It's fairly easy to track installs for this (assuming the interviewee's include these in their responses and are honest). However, I have no idea how the shipments end of open source would be calculated (seeing as most of it is likely downloaded). Thus, it's possible that open source is causing the perceived piracy rate to be increased, lol (note, it is stated that lost economic value of OSS is zero).
Congrats /. has really outdone itself now. Hmmm... Maybe I could submit a post about my pocket lint.
Written like a true 40 point IQ Lib-retard-ian. As long as the program doesn't cost you money you don't care what the benefits are.
The purpose of government is to control the people - that means business people too. It costs money to control those people - REAL MONEY.
Now go sit in the corner and play with yourselves.
Umh, OK.
The question was not whether this is an appropriate use of government. The question is, is it a success? (which to us that live in the real world means: did you accomplish your goals?)
No go sit in a corner and adjust your tinfoil hat.
Correction. The cops are eavesdropping, but they work for the NSA and they don't give a damn about the DNC List :P
1. Cost onus is on the callers (i.e. I don't have to pay some fee to put my name on the list--the telemarketers have to pay to get it or risk breaking the law).
2. I have no idea what the costs associated with running the lists are, but 21M for 1 year in fees sounds pretty good. A government program that doesn't waste a lot of money--hallelujah.
3. It has the desired effect. 91% with decreased unwanted calls.
My gf worked for a telemarketer for 1 week before she quit out of frustration. They used a computer system that had thousands of scripted responses for any reason imaginable a person would use to reject an offer. The phone numbers were automatically dialed by the computer and when a number popped up that was on the DNC list you got a warning message on your screen. Of course everyone was told to ignore the message and make the call anyways. We later reported them to the police. Tele marketers can choose to ignore the DNC list.
And I can choose to ignore stop signs, drug laws, et cetera. It doesn't make the law/list BS (which it may or may not be). The question is how effective is the policing of it--there are no cops waiting by your phone, so the onus is on you to report any violations.
I thought the goal of the registry was to exclude marketers from getting this info? So who gve the glowing reviews?
Well, think about it. How do you know if you are allowed to call someone, unless the list is actually published.
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2008/07/P034305FY0dncreport.pdf I'm still reviewing it, but for doing what it's defined role is, it seems to do it well (notwithstanding the exceptions for politicians, charities, etc).
Thank you for the information. I stand (or sit rather) corrected. It's nice to know that it's co-developed with Canonical's support.
I read it three times, and it seems pretty standard. Basically, it's mostly about links to non-official websites and standards those outside sites must meet. It's no different than the rules that most corporations place on user-maintainable CMS systems.
Note: it never discusses approval of any particular piece of content (except to the extent that official postings already have to meet certain standards), just having pre-approved sites.
1. Make lame attempt at humor by performing unit of measure conversions half-hazardly
2. Be mocked by anal retentive geek
3. Point out that stating things in Newtons is too geeky even for /.
4. Give up
I agree with your biggest annoyance, thus my relabeling caveat. Even if your license allows for it technically, it is the very essence of distasteful.
I suspect that was an allusion to the increased gravity that could turn a 1lb laptop into a 269lb one... No doubt someone will be along to provide the correct weight of the Eee PC 904 on the surface of Jupiter before too long...
1. Calculate the 1.36kg weight of eeePC 904 as being 3.215kg on Jupiter
2. Win the acclaim of nerds everywhere.
3. Profit!