I mean, it is extremely slow, even on my PII-400 with 256MB of RAM. IE is ways faster in load time and crashes less (trust me, the first time I loaded the latest Mozilla Mail/News, I got a crash within 3 minutes). You may say that IE is preloaded, but what about Opera? I'm using Opera 6 beta from time to time and its browser loads at about the same speed of IE.
Pretty good crash performance; honestly, for me Mozilla crashes once in a few days. Even a year ago, it crashed just once or twice per day day for me. With the relative heaviness I agree though; It works pretty nicely with P3-550 & 256 MB of RAM or even better with my home machine (Thunderbird, more memory), but it's definitely a bit slow with my secondary machine, K6-2 400.
I completed both Bard's tale 1 and 2 back then, but did leave the part III somewhere near the end. Somehow it wasn't as good. But I remember reading initially the reviews on Commodore User, Games Machine and other magazines and drooling the games because I could get my hands on them only when I finally purchased an Amiga.
Does anyone have links to measurements of the latency of this wacky new hardware? The existing 802.11 stuff has quite a lot more latency than traditional wired stuff, will it be improved?
Especially the 2.4 QoS features are nice way to provide shaping (I guess that's what you meant). I've toyed with them and it's pretty easy to create some classes, assing the bandwidth to them and control whether it will be shared to other classes if not needed or whether a class will accept extra bandwidth or not.
user: 2.4.14 is crashing on my athlon after half an minute:-P is this normal behavior ?
geek: I would hope not;)
Well, 2.4.12 has been stable on my machine for 24 days now. 2.4.9 worked for three months of continuous uptime. I'd guess that the fault lies elsewhere, unless 2.4.14 has degenerated really badly.
This is still very recent compared to SAM on Commodore 64 or even to the built-in speech support on Amiga (well, until AmigaOS 2.04 or something, when the licence expired). SAM had quite bad quality, but the words could be still made out. On Amiga, the SPEAK: - device was very cool; just copy text to it and it was spoken.
I think perl as a language sucks like a vacuum cleaner.
Why? Because I've tried and tried in the past to write some small programs in perl. Each time it was a hassle to get aquinted with the stupid syntaxis. Forgot a $ sign here, did something wrong with a list there.
Just like forgetting that something is a pointer causes havoc? I fail to see the difference;)
XEmacs used to be considered the worlds largest piece of bloatware... its 4.2meg, its got email, news, web-browser, editor, mayan calendar and the kitchen sink in there....
Mozilla appears to be 16Meg at least (IE was 100Meg when I installed everything!) Is it 4 times as functional, 4 times as reliable... nope.
Actually, I think you're wrong; as a browser, Mozilla certainly does more than the Emacs web browser. Additionally, AFAIK Mozilla can be used as a programming enviroment with XUL, just like Emacs.
Ooops. I meant to say that it's pretty much the tradition of many, many < insert any type of licencing > projects. Forgot that slash will do evil things to html tag - like stuff.;)
It's pretty much in the tradition of many, many projects.
Re:Only people like us appreciate that.
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Name a feature MOzilla has which IE does not have, and i mean a feature average people can use and care about, name one, what themes? IE can do themes too, what auto form complete? IE has had that for years.
Tabs, the link toolbar (yes, very few sites use the link elements at the moment and Lynx has supposedly supported these for a long time - but it's not available in IE) for starters?
Re:Heh, .9.5? Foolish.
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The current last entry before 1.0 in Bugzilla seems to be 0.9.7. Of course, nothing prevents new milestones to be added between it and 1.0, though;)
"We decided not to make source code available for security reasons and for science reasons as well. We have to have everyone do the exact same analysis, or we can't have any control over our research and be confident in our results. We were also worried that there may be a few people that want to deliberately try to screw up our database and server."
Did anyone ever calculate how much energy a civilization would need to use in order to send a signal that would happen to arrive at us. Presumably the civilzation does not know we are here so they would have to radiate enegy to a large portion of their sky. I did a quick calculation assuming they had to do it in all directions and 1 watt would arrive at the destination.
One watt of power to be received is quite a lot more than is neccessary; the _sending_ power of Pioneer 10 is only 8 watts and at the current distance the strenght of received signal is "only about a billionth of a trillionth of a watt", as this link proves.
Re:It's not all about the VM, what about X?
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X in itself should not be a problem with 64 megabytes of RAM - are you running something like Enlightment and Gnome too? The window managers differ quite a bit in their memory usage, and Gnome/KDE grab some of it too.
Personally, I still use Windowmaker without Gnome/KDE (or rather have the neccessary library stuff installed for programs that are for KDE/Gnome, but not actively using resources) even though I have 256 megabytes of RAM.
On this subject, does anyone know of any Linux software that will monitor/report CPU temperatures? I've searched before, but with no luck, and I don't feel like disassembling one of the Windows ones...
Sure. Lm_sensors should be useful. I think that daemon which monitors the CPU temperature using it and runs desired commands also exists.
I could never get coyote linux to work on my box. I just used Debian w/ two FA311's and it worked *okay*. PRoblems did occur, however. Sometimes, hosts behind the firewall could not get to certain websites, or browsing would be slow.
The first problem sound a lot like ECN was turned on. In such situations, echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn should help.
The solution is to *fix* 802.11b's security, which shouldn't be that hard. I believe that simply running the crypto algorithm through a few start cycles, before transmitting, is sufficient to stop the published attacks.
A potential solution for quite a few flaws in WLAN security could be 802.1x. Sorry that I have no links available at the moment, but a quick search with Google or similar tool should be able to give a rough idea about it.
It sickens me that browsing on windows with IE is more stable then anything on the linux platform. Its just not right.
As far as stability goes:
ps aux | grep mozilla
myrjola 1858 0.4 36.6 162636 93572 pts/6 R Aug13 51:04./mozilla-bin
Sure, it has accumulated quite a bit of memory for itself (then again, I have 5 windows open right now, that should explain something), but it's been up and running for 7 days now without a crash.
Unless the ARB makes tremendous changes in its policy of staying 3 years behind the hardware, I strongly feel OpenGL is relagated to the niche BASIC fell into. Sure, you can get it on all platforms, but its so slow and feature poor, why bother?
You mean, just like the very uncommonly used Basic known as Visual Basic?;) OK, it's not available for all platforms. Just couldn't resist poking at your choice of example.
MAX PAYNE. a D3D _ONLY_ game. It happens to be one of the most innovative games to date.
Hmm? What exactly is so innovative in Max Payne? It sure has nice effects and bullet time/shoot dodge is a feature that hasn't been in many games so far (Hitman included supposedly some kind of slow motion), but I'd say that it's hardly original or innovative. Not a bad game, but it's merits lie mainly in other aspects than innovation, IMO.
2.4. == development release -- every time. They don't say it very often, but if you know the numbering system you'd know that even numbers are just development releases.
Erm, no. 2.1 and 2.3 were development releases and 2.5 will be. 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 are stable series. See eg. this link.
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I mean, it is extremely slow, even on my PII-400 with 256MB of RAM. IE is ways faster in load time and crashes less (trust me, the first time I loaded the latest Mozilla Mail/News, I got a crash within 3 minutes). You may say that IE is preloaded, but what about Opera? I'm using Opera 6 beta from time to time and its browser loads at about the same speed of IE.
Pretty good crash performance; honestly, for me Mozilla crashes once in a few days. Even a year ago, it crashed just once or twice per day day for me. With the relative heaviness I agree though; It works pretty nicely with P3-550 & 256 MB of RAM or even better with my home machine (Thunderbird, more memory), but it's definitely a bit slow with my secondary machine, K6-2 400.
I completed both Bard's tale 1 and 2 back then, but did leave the part III somewhere near the end. Somehow it wasn't as good. But I remember reading initially the reviews on Commodore User, Games Machine and other magazines and drooling the games because I could get my hands on them only when I finally purchased an Amiga.
Does anyone have links to measurements of the latency of this wacky new hardware? The existing 802.11 stuff has quite a lot more latency than traditional wired stuff, will it be improved?
Especially the 2.4 QoS features are nice way to provide shaping (I guess that's what you meant). I've toyed with them and it's pretty easy to create some classes, assing the bandwidth to them and control whether it will be shared to other classes if not needed or whether a class will accept extra bandwidth or not.
user: 2.4.14 is crashing on my athlon after half an minute :-P is this normal behavior ?
;)
geek: I would hope not
Well, 2.4.12 has been stable on my machine for 24 days now. 2.4.9 worked for three months of continuous uptime. I'd guess that the fault lies elsewhere, unless 2.4.14 has degenerated really badly.
This is still very recent compared to SAM on Commodore 64 or even to the built-in speech support on Amiga (well, until AmigaOS 2.04 or something, when the licence expired). SAM had quite bad quality, but the words could be still made out. On Amiga, the SPEAK: - device was very cool; just copy text to it and it was spoken.
I think perl as a language sucks like a vacuum cleaner.
Why? Because I've tried and tried in the past to write some small programs in perl. Each time it was a hassle to get aquinted with the stupid syntaxis. Forgot a $ sign here, did something wrong with a list there.
Just like forgetting that something is a pointer causes havoc? I fail to see the difference ;)
I didn't say it failed, i said it was an embarrasment.
And your evidence and exact arguments for this statement are..?
The syntax highlighting has been there for quite some time.
XEmacs used to be considered the worlds largest piece of bloatware... its 4.2meg, its got email, news, web-browser, editor, mayan calendar and the kitchen sink in there....
Mozilla appears to be 16Meg at least (IE was 100Meg when I installed everything!) Is it 4 times as functional, 4 times as reliable... nope.
Actually, I think you're wrong; as a browser, Mozilla certainly does more than the Emacs web browser. Additionally, AFAIK Mozilla can be used as a programming enviroment with XUL, just like Emacs.
Ooops. I meant to say that it's pretty much the tradition of many, many < insert any type of licencing > projects. Forgot that slash will do evil things to html tag - like stuff. ;)
It's pretty much in the tradition of many, many projects.
Name a feature MOzilla has which IE does not have, and i mean a feature average people can use and care about, name one, what themes? IE can do themes too, what auto form complete? IE has had that for years.
Tabs, the link toolbar (yes, very few sites use the link elements at the moment and Lynx has supposedly supported these for a long time - but it's not available in IE) for starters?
The current last entry before 1.0 in Bugzilla seems to be 0.9.7. Of course, nothing prevents new milestones to be added between it and 1.0, though ;)
Why oh why are they not *OPEN SOURCEING* these distributed projects?
The Seti@home FAQ says about this:
"We decided not to make source code available for security reasons and for science reasons as well. We have to have everyone do the exact same analysis, or we can't have any control over our research and be confident in our results. We were also worried that there may be a few people that want to deliberately try to screw up our database and server."
Did anyone ever calculate how much energy a civilization would need to use in order to send a signal that would happen to arrive at us. Presumably the civilzation does not know we are here so they would have to radiate enegy to a large portion of their sky. I did a quick calculation assuming they had to do it in all directions and 1 watt would arrive at the destination.
One watt of power to be received is quite a lot more than is neccessary; the _sending_ power of Pioneer 10 is only 8 watts and at the current distance the strenght of received signal is "only about a billionth of a trillionth of a watt", as this link proves.
X in itself should not be a problem with 64 megabytes of RAM - are you running something like Enlightment and Gnome too? The window managers differ quite a bit in their memory usage, and Gnome/KDE grab some of it too.
Personally, I still use Windowmaker without Gnome/KDE (or rather have the neccessary library stuff installed for programs that are for KDE/Gnome, but not actively using resources) even though I have 256 megabytes of RAM.
On this subject, does anyone know of any Linux software that will monitor/report CPU temperatures? I've searched before, but with no luck, and I don't feel like disassembling one of the Windows ones...
Sure. Lm_sensors should be useful. I think that daemon which monitors the CPU temperature using it and runs desired commands also exists.
I could never get coyote linux to work on my box. I just used Debian w/ two FA311's and it worked *okay*. PRoblems did occur, however. Sometimes, hosts behind the firewall could not get to certain websites, or browsing would be slow.
The first problem sound a lot like ECN was turned on. In such situations,
echo "0" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn should help.
..."It's true that our missiles created a few hundreds of 20m craters into the land, but they did not release any poisonous byproducts!"
The solution is to *fix* 802.11b's security, which shouldn't be that hard. I believe that simply running the crypto algorithm through a few start cycles, before transmitting, is sufficient to stop the published attacks.
A potential solution for quite a few flaws in WLAN security could be 802.1x. Sorry that I have no links available at the moment, but a quick search with Google or similar tool should be able to give a rough idea about it.
It sickens me that browsing on windows with IE is more stable then anything on the linux platform. Its just not right.
As far as stability goes:
./mozilla-bin
ps aux | grep mozilla
myrjola 1858 0.4 36.6 162636 93572 pts/6 R Aug13 51:04
Sure, it has accumulated quite a bit of memory for itself (then again, I have 5 windows open right now, that should explain something), but it's been up and running for 7 days now without a crash.
Unless the ARB makes tremendous changes in its policy of staying 3 years behind the hardware, I strongly feel OpenGL is relagated to the niche BASIC fell into. Sure, you can get it on all platforms, but its so slow and feature poor, why bother?
You mean, just like the very uncommonly used Basic known as Visual Basic? ;) OK, it's not available for all platforms. Just couldn't resist poking at your choice of example.
MAX PAYNE. a D3D _ONLY_ game. It happens to be one of the most innovative games to date.
Hmm? What exactly is so innovative in Max Payne? It sure has nice effects and bullet time/shoot dodge is a feature that hasn't been in many games so far (Hitman included supposedly some kind of slow motion), but I'd say that it's hardly original or innovative. Not a bad game, but it's merits lie mainly in other aspects than innovation, IMO.
2.4. == development release -- every time. They don't say it very often, but if you know the numbering system you'd know that even numbers are just development releases.
Erm, no. 2.1 and 2.3 were development releases and 2.5 will be. 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 are stable series. See eg. this link.