I have no idea how many people might have been shot by mistake - but in the instance I read on the Houston Chronicle, the dude was found by the cops, lying beside the car, with some kind of tool in his hand, and broken glass all around him. The biggest fuss was when they asked if her BOYFREIND might have fired the fatal shot - she used a.410, and some people claimed "a woman can't make a shot like that, at that range". Phhht. Sexists, huh? I've known a few women who could shoot better than I do. My sister, for one. Or, at least she shoots more consistently than I do.;^)
As I mentioned in another post - it depends on your city/state/country. In California, you could easily be found negligent for having *ANY* unsecured weapons. In Texas? Not freaking likely. Dude steps on your property uninvited, he's pretty much fair game for both you and the law.
However - I don't *believe* that any state in the US considers a bow to be a weapon. There are a lot of laws about firearms, and more laws concerning knives over x inches in length, but I've never seen any citations of laws about bows, or the arrows. Of course, IANAL - anything is possible if you should go scraping the law archives.
I'll add that the homeowner's liability for injuries to criminals who are trespassing and/or breaking in are quite different from one state to another. We don't all live in La-La-Land - errrr - I meant California. I read one story where a burglar hurt himself after falling through a roof, or a skylight, or some such. He successfully sued the homeowner, in California. In a more reasonable state, like Texas, the homeowner could have SHOT the SOB, and claimed that he was startled, and feared for his life. In fact, in Texas, you don't even have to fear for your life - you can shoot a burglar dead, even before he gets into the house. One woman in Houston used a shotgun to kill some guy OUTSIDE her house who was breaking into her car, and some old guy shot through the door and killed one of two burglars who were trying to break in. Now, THAT is reasonable!!
I have no idea where to look for a key for my house. If I suddenly decided that the doors need to be locked, I would have to go to the hardware store, and buy some locks. There is almost always SOMEONE home, and no one even thinks of locking the doors when anyone leaves.
I guess that if someone wanted in, they could GET IN, lock or no lock. Which is worse - to find all our stuff gone, or to find all of our stuff gone, AND broken windows on a dark and stormy night?
WIth some fancy parsing of words, this ruling *might* pertain to OSS, in cases where a support contract is signed with a vendor. Let's say that Suse sells a contract to support 200 machines, and the people actually using the machines find some thing(s) that don't work as they expect. It may or may not matter that the particular use, or even the particular application was mentioned in the support contract.
I wouldn't say that it doesn't affect OSS - but I certainly can't say that it will, either. This is most definitely something to watch for.
Look, I'm with Commodore. I'm not sending money to anyone, just HOPING that I can do what I want with whatever they might decide to send me. I've never payed for an online service. My dollars are to valuable to spend on a hope and a prayer.
I get the disk that I payed for, or I'm not paying. And, I'll certainly not buy anything from Sony, seeing that they still "own" your box after you unpack it at home. If I want an update, I'll go LOOKING for it. Include a "README" file or something, so that I can decide if the update is right for me. Phhht.
Seriously - the most UNstable Linux I've ever loaded was as stable as Windows. Linux developers are loathe to "market" their products as stable, outside of the mainstream support channels. Largely due to the fact that they have zero control over what is installed, how it's installed, how it's configured, or anything else. If it didn't come from the mainstream support channels, complete with a support contract, no one considers it "stable".
Could it be that some cranky old bastid has taken control of the satellite, and he's going to use it to knock out satellite television? If so, he deserves some kind of a medal.
Perhaps we should define "old machine". To some people, my dual core Opteron on an Asus SK8V clocked at 2.2 Ghz might be an old machine. To other people, you might have to go all the way back to a socket 7 to be "old". Yet others might argue, and insist that it isn't "old" unless you're running a 286. *shrug* I don't know what you mean by "older machine"!
"you have to "pay" into it. Not with money, but an oath and putting up with crazy BS."
I couldn't have said it any better. The problem is, those who have never been there simply can't understand. It's like trying to explaind the difference between blue and yellow to a blind man. He MIGHT understand, academically, but he will never REALLY understand.
We can agree on the Iraqi war. But, that's POLITICS. Politics is completely separate from what a soldier has to do. Politics shouldn't have anything to do with whether a soldier can provide for his family or not.
If you expect a soldier to provide his own health care for his family, be prepared to increase his pay twofold, anyway, and maybe more. In the end, it will cost you a lot of money to deprive a soldier of the family health care that he has now.
Yes, it's voluntary. Take away the most basic necessities that any family needs, and you'll find that the volunteers aren't showing up any longer. Do you want to go back to the way the Queen's army was run 150 or 200 years ago? Good luck with that.
I have to argue with that. Ever been "over there"? How in hell can a soldier or sailor keep his mind on what he's doing, after he gets a letter from home: "Dear John, Suzy needs braces, and you know there's no money for them. Your mom sent me $xxx, my mom sent $xxx, and I took some money out of my 401k, and almost had enough - THEN THE FUCKING CAR BROKE DOWN!! I don't know how I'm going to get the car repaired, and dress the kids for school. Jimmy has outgrown his walker, and we'll never be able to afford a prosthetic for him. I'm about ready to go home to Kansas, and let that dirty old lecher who has always chased me have his way, if he'll just take care of the kids!"
Preposterous, you say? Maybe. Maybe not. Soldiers and sailors don't get much of a paycheck to start with, they certainly can't afford a decent health care plan if we take away what they have now.
Now, IF you had suggested that MAYBE the military wastes some of the health care money they DO have, then we might find that Gates agrees with you. If you bothered to find citations, then some of the rest of us might agree with you. There is waste in every system - and that is a large part of what Gates is on about.
I should have known better than to come in here. Flamewar from hell. Whatever.
Personally, I don't give a small rat's ass if any Apple product ever supports Adobe Flash. Linux can stop supporting Adobe Flash as well. Then, Adobe could stay right where it belongs - on Microsoft computers. I mean, we HAVE alternative to Adobe on Linux. And, it really shouldn't be hard to port any of them to Mac - it's a Unix-like, after all. Let Adobe chase after the Microsoft market, and create security holes in Windows, where they belong.
Yes, I'll load an occasional site that relies on Adobe, and the content won't run. No big deal. I'll miss that content, and the site will miss my repeat visits. Fair trade.
The Linux world is growing. Yeah, there's a long way to go to say that Linux even competes with Microsoft for market share - but so what? The Linux world is still growing, and people will complain the site developers that they can't see the content. Eventually, developers will develop with the alternatives to Adobe in mind.
The world is a beautiful place when you don't rely on proprietary shit.
I'll be perfectly honest - I'm not sure if I'm getting 3D acceleration or not. Those few games that I've bothered to install "ran alright". Virtual Box has (now it has, I guess it's been there for something like 6 months, maybe a bit longer) a setting to enable 3D acceleration when you create the machine. It was "experimental", that tag has been taken away now.
So - I need to sort the kid's games, find one that specifies that it needs 3D accel, install it, and see what happens. I have to many brands in the fire to start that experiment today - and may not find time til this weekend. But, I WILL do some experimenting, and try to quantify and qualify the results.
I don't even know when slashdot archives these discussions - maybe this one will still be open when I get it done.
One thing that WILL NOT work on my hardware with Vbox, is that Bumptop that was discussed recently. It throws up an error related to video, and won't even try to start.
Whatever - I'm making a note to experiment, and find out which games work, which work well, and which don't work at all.
Well, FFS, no, the latest and greatest games don't run in VM's - and if they do, you won't get near the performance that you'll get on hardware. I jumped on that "hyperbole" as it deserved. Anyone who believes that you CAN'T_PLAY_ANY_GAMES in a VM is full of shit - and you obviously know that.
But, I think you'll grant that GEEKS and GAMERS are two separate groups, who overlap somewhat. The things that geeks use computers for run well in a VM. The things that gamers use computers for pretty much suck. All the REST of the computing world hardly has any idea what a VM is all about, so we can pretty much leave them out of the discussion.
I'm the geeky type, and everything that I've ever wanted to do in a VM ran anywhere from alright to great. Those games that I really want to play, all play decently. I may fire up a few of the more advanced games, and see which run, and which don't. My kids have piles of games, some of them fairly new, so I have fodder to feed the machine. Maybe I'll find that I'm overly optimistic about what the system will do, maybe I'll find that you haven't done all the homework that you claim.
I'll try to remember to post back when I'm done playing around.;^)
You don't have to subscribe to shadowstats to read the information, or the explanations. Go. Read. Don't be an ass. Unemployment during the depression was much greater than 20%. And, in case you hadn't noticed, we were precipitously close to a real depression only a year ago.
Once again - the federal government has changed the method for determining unemployment rates twice in the past two decades, to hide the real unemployment rates. Don't believe me? Google around. You're to smart, or to good, or to dumb to read shadowstats, go find the data on your own.
Actually, there are a number of rescue disks available today - and some of them are perfectly free and legal to download and burn. Trinity comes readily to mind, which is based on Linux. The Geek Squad's CD has been pirated, and I've played with that - it has a boot menu, which allows you to load a *nix environment, or WinPE. I haven't explored that to thoroughly, but it's neat. Those are the *easiest* rescue CD's I've seen, but there are several more that require some degree of expertise in Linux to use.
As I say, it was years ago when I was left feeling helpless with an ailing laptop. At that time, I wasn't competent enough with Linux to have fixed things, even IF it gave r/w access to an NTFS drive.;^)
Remedial reading 101 at a community college near you. Take it.
I SAID that Linux systems guard more than enough money and data to make thousands of hackers rich beyond their wildest dreams. I never inferred that they guard more money and data than Windows systems guard. While the latter MIGHT be true, I don't have the data necessary to draw such a conclusion. Common sense says that it's probably NOT true.
But, an earlier poster mentioned the fact that corporate and financial institutions have all this money to pay high powered administrators. If the administrators are working with a decent operating system, and if the administrators are competent, then Enterprise is safe, right? And, the military too, right?
How's that British thing working out now? Windows for Submarines? The last I heard, it was down. Who has more expertise in securing computers than the US or the UK departments of defense? If THEY can't secure Windows, then who can?
One of the earlier posters has already admitted that ACL's are nearly equal between Linux and Windows, if administered with similar expertise - in the very same post in which he asked everyone to ignore SEL. You judge. Security Enhanced Linux is simply not available on Windows, to the best of my knowledge.
But, even restricting ourselves to ACL's - default Linux installations beat default Windows installations all to hell and back on workstation installations, and server installations are nearly equal for ACL's. But - how many Linux servers do you think are run without SEL? Meaning, of course, that the Linux server has all of the best that Windows has to offer, PLUS SEL.
Unemployment is over 20%. Using the very same facts, figures, and formulas that were used for a couple of decades before Bill Clinton took office, the unemployment stands around 22%, right now.
First, Bill Clinton changed the formuals, then George Bush changed the formulas again. That 9.9% figure that you are quoting? Lies. Nothing but lies. And, if "official" unemployment figure goes over 10% again, the government will jiggle the formulas again. Care to take a bet? The public and the media won't tolerate unemployment rates over 10% - but they will tolerate lies that lead them to believe that it's below 10%.
Click the link, and check the history, check the facts and figures. Go ahead. Don't quote "official" figures to me - I know what they are, and I know why they are wrong.
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I have no idea how many people might have been shot by mistake - but in the instance I read on the Houston Chronicle, the dude was found by the cops, lying beside the car, with some kind of tool in his hand, and broken glass all around him. The biggest fuss was when they asked if her BOYFREIND might have fired the fatal shot - she used a .410, and some people claimed "a woman can't make a shot like that, at that range". Phhht. Sexists, huh? I've known a few women who could shoot better than I do. My sister, for one. Or, at least she shoots more consistently than I do. ;^)
As I mentioned in another post - it depends on your city/state/country. In California, you could easily be found negligent for having *ANY* unsecured weapons. In Texas? Not freaking likely. Dude steps on your property uninvited, he's pretty much fair game for both you and the law.
However - I don't *believe* that any state in the US considers a bow to be a weapon. There are a lot of laws about firearms, and more laws concerning knives over x inches in length, but I've never seen any citations of laws about bows, or the arrows. Of course, IANAL - anything is possible if you should go scraping the law archives.
I'll add that the homeowner's liability for injuries to criminals who are trespassing and/or breaking in are quite different from one state to another. We don't all live in La-La-Land - errrr - I meant California. I read one story where a burglar hurt himself after falling through a roof, or a skylight, or some such. He successfully sued the homeowner, in California. In a more reasonable state, like Texas, the homeowner could have SHOT the SOB, and claimed that he was startled, and feared for his life. In fact, in Texas, you don't even have to fear for your life - you can shoot a burglar dead, even before he gets into the house. One woman in Houston used a shotgun to kill some guy OUTSIDE her house who was breaking into her car, and some old guy shot through the door and killed one of two burglars who were trying to break in. Now, THAT is reasonable!!
I have no idea where to look for a key for my house. If I suddenly decided that the doors need to be locked, I would have to go to the hardware store, and buy some locks. There is almost always SOMEONE home, and no one even thinks of locking the doors when anyone leaves.
I guess that if someone wanted in, they could GET IN, lock or no lock. Which is worse - to find all our stuff gone, or to find all of our stuff gone, AND broken windows on a dark and stormy night?
WIth some fancy parsing of words, this ruling *might* pertain to OSS, in cases where a support contract is signed with a vendor. Let's say that Suse sells a contract to support 200 machines, and the people actually using the machines find some thing(s) that don't work as they expect. It may or may not matter that the particular use, or even the particular application was mentioned in the support contract.
I wouldn't say that it doesn't affect OSS - but I certainly can't say that it will, either. This is most definitely something to watch for.
You say that like it's a *BAD THING*!!
Look, I'm with Commodore. I'm not sending money to anyone, just HOPING that I can do what I want with whatever they might decide to send me. I've never payed for an online service. My dollars are to valuable to spend on a hope and a prayer.
I get the disk that I payed for, or I'm not paying. And, I'll certainly not buy anything from Sony, seeing that they still "own" your box after you unpack it at home. If I want an update, I'll go LOOKING for it. Include a "README" file or something, so that I can decide if the update is right for me. Phhht.
Stability is highly overrated.
Wait - did I just say that?
Seriously - the most UNstable Linux I've ever loaded was as stable as Windows. Linux developers are loathe to "market" their products as stable, outside of the mainstream support channels. Largely due to the fact that they have zero control over what is installed, how it's installed, how it's configured, or anything else. If it didn't come from the mainstream support channels, complete with a support contract, no one considers it "stable".
I hadn't seen that - I have to play with it. Looks interesting!
Could it be that some cranky old bastid has taken control of the satellite, and he's going to use it to knock out satellite television? If so, he deserves some kind of a medal.
Perhaps we should define "old machine". To some people, my dual core Opteron on an Asus SK8V clocked at 2.2 Ghz might be an old machine. To other people, you might have to go all the way back to a socket 7 to be "old". Yet others might argue, and insist that it isn't "old" unless you're running a 286. *shrug* I don't know what you mean by "older machine"!
"you have to "pay" into it. Not with money, but an oath and putting up with crazy BS."
I couldn't have said it any better. The problem is, those who have never been there simply can't understand. It's like trying to explaind the difference between blue and yellow to a blind man. He MIGHT understand, academically, but he will never REALLY understand.
We can agree on the Iraqi war. But, that's POLITICS. Politics is completely separate from what a soldier has to do. Politics shouldn't have anything to do with whether a soldier can provide for his family or not.
If you expect a soldier to provide his own health care for his family, be prepared to increase his pay twofold, anyway, and maybe more. In the end, it will cost you a lot of money to deprive a soldier of the family health care that he has now.
Yes, it's voluntary. Take away the most basic necessities that any family needs, and you'll find that the volunteers aren't showing up any longer. Do you want to go back to the way the Queen's army was run 150 or 200 years ago? Good luck with that.
I have to argue with that. Ever been "over there"? How in hell can a soldier or sailor keep his mind on what he's doing, after he gets a letter from home: "Dear John, Suzy needs braces, and you know there's no money for them. Your mom sent me $xxx, my mom sent $xxx, and I took some money out of my 401k, and almost had enough - THEN THE FUCKING CAR BROKE DOWN!! I don't know how I'm going to get the car repaired, and dress the kids for school. Jimmy has outgrown his walker, and we'll never be able to afford a prosthetic for him. I'm about ready to go home to Kansas, and let that dirty old lecher who has always chased me have his way, if he'll just take care of the kids!"
Preposterous, you say? Maybe. Maybe not. Soldiers and sailors don't get much of a paycheck to start with, they certainly can't afford a decent health care plan if we take away what they have now.
Now, IF you had suggested that MAYBE the military wastes some of the health care money they DO have, then we might find that Gates agrees with you. If you bothered to find citations, then some of the rest of us might agree with you. There is waste in every system - and that is a large part of what Gates is on about.
I should have known better than to come in here. Flamewar from hell. Whatever.
Personally, I don't give a small rat's ass if any Apple product ever supports Adobe Flash. Linux can stop supporting Adobe Flash as well. Then, Adobe could stay right where it belongs - on Microsoft computers. I mean, we HAVE alternative to Adobe on Linux. And, it really shouldn't be hard to port any of them to Mac - it's a Unix-like, after all. Let Adobe chase after the Microsoft market, and create security holes in Windows, where they belong.
Yes, I'll load an occasional site that relies on Adobe, and the content won't run. No big deal. I'll miss that content, and the site will miss my repeat visits. Fair trade.
The Linux world is growing. Yeah, there's a long way to go to say that Linux even competes with Microsoft for market share - but so what? The Linux world is still growing, and people will complain the site developers that they can't see the content. Eventually, developers will develop with the alternatives to Adobe in mind.
The world is a beautiful place when you don't rely on proprietary shit.
I'll be perfectly honest - I'm not sure if I'm getting 3D acceleration or not. Those few games that I've bothered to install "ran alright". Virtual Box has (now it has, I guess it's been there for something like 6 months, maybe a bit longer) a setting to enable 3D acceleration when you create the machine. It was "experimental", that tag has been taken away now.
So - I need to sort the kid's games, find one that specifies that it needs 3D accel, install it, and see what happens. I have to many brands in the fire to start that experiment today - and may not find time til this weekend. But, I WILL do some experimenting, and try to quantify and qualify the results.
I don't even know when slashdot archives these discussions - maybe this one will still be open when I get it done.
One thing that WILL NOT work on my hardware with Vbox, is that Bumptop that was discussed recently. It throws up an error related to video, and won't even try to start.
Whatever - I'm making a note to experiment, and find out which games work, which work well, and which don't work at all.
Talk to you later!!
Well, FFS, no, the latest and greatest games don't run in VM's - and if they do, you won't get near the performance that you'll get on hardware. I jumped on that "hyperbole" as it deserved. Anyone who believes that you CAN'T_PLAY_ANY_GAMES in a VM is full of shit - and you obviously know that.
But, I think you'll grant that GEEKS and GAMERS are two separate groups, who overlap somewhat. The things that geeks use computers for run well in a VM. The things that gamers use computers for pretty much suck. All the REST of the computing world hardly has any idea what a VM is all about, so we can pretty much leave them out of the discussion.
I'm the geeky type, and everything that I've ever wanted to do in a VM ran anywhere from alright to great. Those games that I really want to play, all play decently. I may fire up a few of the more advanced games, and see which run, and which don't. My kids have piles of games, some of them fairly new, so I have fodder to feed the machine. Maybe I'll find that I'm overly optimistic about what the system will do, maybe I'll find that you haven't done all the homework that you claim.
I'll try to remember to post back when I'm done playing around. ;^)
I'm the moron - but you're unwilling to read and learn. Got it.
You don't have to subscribe to shadowstats to read the information, or the explanations. Go. Read. Don't be an ass. Unemployment during the depression was much greater than 20%. And, in case you hadn't noticed, we were precipitously close to a real depression only a year ago.
Once again - the federal government has changed the method for determining unemployment rates twice in the past two decades, to hide the real unemployment rates. Don't believe me? Google around. You're to smart, or to good, or to dumb to read shadowstats, go find the data on your own.
Actually, there are a number of rescue disks available today - and some of them are perfectly free and legal to download and burn. Trinity comes readily to mind, which is based on Linux. The Geek Squad's CD has been pirated, and I've played with that - it has a boot menu, which allows you to load a *nix environment, or WinPE. I haven't explored that to thoroughly, but it's neat. Those are the *easiest* rescue CD's I've seen, but there are several more that require some degree of expertise in Linux to use.
As I say, it was years ago when I was left feeling helpless with an ailing laptop. At that time, I wasn't competent enough with Linux to have fixed things, even IF it gave r/w access to an NTFS drive. ;^)
Remedial reading 101 at a community college near you. Take it.
I SAID that Linux systems guard more than enough money and data to make thousands of hackers rich beyond their wildest dreams. I never inferred that they guard more money and data than Windows systems guard. While the latter MIGHT be true, I don't have the data necessary to draw such a conclusion. Common sense says that it's probably NOT true.
But, an earlier poster mentioned the fact that corporate and financial institutions have all this money to pay high powered administrators. If the administrators are working with a decent operating system, and if the administrators are competent, then Enterprise is safe, right? And, the military too, right?
How's that British thing working out now? Windows for Submarines? The last I heard, it was down. Who has more expertise in securing computers than the US or the UK departments of defense? If THEY can't secure Windows, then who can?
One of the earlier posters has already admitted that ACL's are nearly equal between Linux and Windows, if administered with similar expertise - in the very same post in which he asked everyone to ignore SEL. You judge. Security Enhanced Linux is simply not available on Windows, to the best of my knowledge.
But, even restricting ourselves to ACL's - default Linux installations beat default Windows installations all to hell and back on workstation installations, and server installations are nearly equal for ACL's. But - how many Linux servers do you think are run without SEL? Meaning, of course, that the Linux server has all of the best that Windows has to offer, PLUS SEL.
Did you click the link? shadowstats.com
Unemployment is over 20%. Using the very same facts, figures, and formulas that were used for a couple of decades before Bill Clinton took office, the unemployment stands around 22%, right now.
First, Bill Clinton changed the formuals, then George Bush changed the formulas again. That 9.9% figure that you are quoting? Lies. Nothing but lies. And, if "official" unemployment figure goes over 10% again, the government will jiggle the formulas again. Care to take a bet? The public and the media won't tolerate unemployment rates over 10% - but they will tolerate lies that lead them to believe that it's below 10%.
Click the link, and check the history, check the facts and figures. Go ahead. Don't quote "official" figures to me - I know what they are, and I know why they are wrong.
The US constitution? In Heinlein's world, the constitution doesn't exist. I'm moving, because I like the laws in his world better.