That's really a pissy attitude. IANAM, but my Pa was. He could make music with anything, if he could pull a string tight across it. He and his friends actually recorded some decent music, over the years. They all had haircuts and jobs - they all raised families - they were all respectable people.
None of them ever expected to "make money" - they played music together because they loved music, they loved performing for people, and they just loved being together. They did sell a little music - a dozen tapes at a nursing home, a couple dozen at a church, another dozen at a corner store somewhere. Enough to pay for gasoline sometimes, to offset costs.
Something like Myspace would have been cool, back in the '60's up through the early '80's. They might have sold a little more music, and they certainly would have been better known outside their home counties. You may have even heard of them, if there had been a means to distribute their music for free!
Indies. Those are the REAL musicians. The labels? They know how to pry money out of fool's pockets, but they don't know music.
I was told repeatedly, on slashdot and elsewhere, that offering a choice could never work. The script was to complicated, among other things. You can't download anything until the browser is installed, among other things. That Microsoft couldn't offer browsers which they didn't own, among other things.
After all those highly intelligent individuals convinced me that this browser ballot was impossible, I KNOW it has to be fake! Those screenshots are photoshopped, it's all a figment of some demented Euro's imagination!!
NURSE!! I need another pill, please!
Ahh, to hell with the pill. Screw all the astroturfers who spent all their time with wasted arguements.
Actually, the interstates were "designed" to keep traffic moving at about 80 mph, nationwide. A good driver can actually navigate just about all of the interstate system doing that speed - some mountain areas never made the grade, and probably never will. Oh, wow, this site disagrees with what I was taught - http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/programadmin/interstate.cfm "Examples of design standards for the Interstate System include full control of access, design speeds of 50 to 70 miles per hour (depending on type of terrain),"
I'm sure that if I were to google around some more, I could find Eisenhower's stated goal of 80 mph.
Yes, I've driven 120 and faster on the interstate, but that extra speed is just a benefit of open, flat lands.
Whatever else Hussein was, he managed to maintain a semblance of order in a rather fragmented society. When the US leaves Iraq, you can expect a Shiite led government to align itself a lot closer to Iran than Hussein and his crew would ever have permitted. The results aren't in yet. Yeah, Sadman was really a savage despot, with an arm's length list of crimes against his name, but he helped to balance power in the Mideast. Bush tipped the scales, and it's anyone's guess how they will balance in the future.
Countdown to being trashed by a crowd of neocons 3 - 2 - 1 -
Ahh, don't be douche. Some of us have a hard time choosing between a patent troll and Microsoft. In this case, I'd have to side with MS.
Let's all pray to which ever holy or unholy gods we might worship or curse that SCOTUS simply shoots down software patents, and solves this whole problem. Then, we can all pray that SCOTUS gets some copyright cases soon, and establishes once and for all that copyrights are good for ~15 years - give us a good, firm number that is going to stand from now on. No more of this "life +". Renewals might be possible, but they are freaking EXPENSIVE, doubling in price with each renewal.
Or, you can just worship the God of Capitalism, and pray that SCOTUS rules against civilization.
Ahhh - ya got me. Yeah, I know that ECC is error "correction", not error "prevention". But, I was thinking along the lines of "prevention" when I posted.
The rest of your post is informative as well - thanks!
Yes, I saw that, and it was also pointed out earlier in this discussion. I, for one, am not willing to accept that statement. It should be noted that a lot of "assumptions" were made in this study, and that those assumptions are referred to throughout the TFA and the PDF. Of all the hardware errors I've ever dealt with, heat was the most common problem.
No, I don't believe so. They use server boards, custom made to their specs. And, I'm pretty sure that those specs include ECC memory - that is the standard for servers, after all. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10209580-92.html If you're really interested, that story gives you a starting point to google from.
"a mean of 3,751 correctable errors per DIMM per year."
I'm much to lazy to do the math. Let's round up - 4k errors per year has to be a vanishingly small percentage for a system that is up 24/7/365, or 5 nines. The fact that these DIMMs were "stressed" makes me wonder about the validity of the test. Heat stress, among other things, will multiply errors far beyond what you will see in normal service.
That really hit me, as I read the article. By extension, any taxpaying citizen who would read the work of an investigative reporter would also be an enemy of the state. There is simply no way to justify the logic of their classification. Expect a new expose' in the US - people who request information under the FOI act are investigated by FBI/NSA/CIA etc ad nauseum.
"In fact, 6.5 might be lousy because all effort is going into mainline instead."
You're serious, right? Or, are you playing on the posts above that say MS is a joke?
I'll answer you, with a serious answer. Mobile devices are being sold NOW. More and more people are becoming accustomed to devices that WORK. MS knows better than anyone (witness past exclusivity agreements) that the time to corner a market is in the early days. If MS wants to be relevant in the mobile devices market, they need to get into it NOW, not next month, not next year. It's a now or never thing. Each day that passes without a compelling reason to use MS OS's is one more nail in MS's coffin.
The mobile market belongs to *nix and Apple. It's just that simple. Chrome may or may not become relevant, but again, time is working against them, just as it is working against Microsoft.
Well, politicians aren't held to ANY standard. Witness that senator for Mass they screwed into the ground just weeks ago. Ask the former Governor of Illinois what standards he was held to. He just went to far when he tried to auction off a senate position. I wonder what the results would be if I googled "Where to congressmen stick their peckers?" Employees and appointees have higher standards than elected officials, but that doesn't mean much.
Mmmm - yes, you make a point. But, I'm not certain that we understand each other's points, fully. Yes, Asus is a reputable mainboard company. One of the best boards I've ever owned is an Asus. It's already 7 years old, I've upgraded the BIOS twice, added peripherals that weren't supported when it was new - it's a great board. BUT - the wife's semi-successful homebrew is based on an Asus K8N board. It isn't as high quality as my SK8V, it was built for the abandoned socket 754, and most importantly, you won't find it in any overclocker's forum archives as an overclocker's dream. (In fact, it is marginally over clockable, but onboard video and the CPU both suffer from heat stress, and freeze up with a stock GPU and CPU coolers in place.)
So, I stress, don't rely as much on brand name, as the reviews in the over clocker's forums. If Mad Gamer posts about the outstanding stability of Asus model XXxX when overclocked at 5 Ghz, buy it. The wildly overclocked board that lasts him 6 months to 1 year will probably last for ten years in more normal service.
The Guides are administrative interpretations of the law intended to help advertisers comply with the Federal Trade Commission Act; they are not binding law themselves. In any law enforcement action challenging the allegedly deceptive use of testimonials or endorsements, the Commission would have the burden of proving that the challenged conduct violates the FTC Act.
In effect, the FTC has looked at existing laws, and decided that bloggers, among other people, have been violating existing law. There is really no new law, rule, or regulation. What we actually have is a statement of policy, regarding the manner in which existing laws will be applied.
As for being unenforceable - good luck with that one. I'll read about it in the news.
Actually you're a little off target. The FCC isn't limiting free speech. You can still write any mindless drivel you care to write, if you think it will help to sell your chosen product. The FCC is actually trying to enforce a little bit of "truth in advertising". If Company "X" paid you to form an opinion that is favorable to them, people have the right to know that you're just another talking head prostituting himself to Company "X"
"Maybe the astroturfing garbage will finally stop... or at least be more obvious."
I want to see how that works out on slashdot. It should be amusing.
Anonymous Coward posts:
Linux sucks, only gays want it, only idiots and democrats use it. Apple is for elitest homos and republicans. Unix only works for fossilized fags who dream in binary. MS rocks, Gates is God, and Ballmer is the messiah.
Disclaimer: AC is paid $25 per thousand words by Microsoft corporation to bash Linux and Apple while praising MS.
Ditto here, from experience. My home brews just keep on going, and going, and going, while the pretty store bought machines that the wife likes fall apart. I don't buy the most expensive, highest quality parts either - just good, solid items with good reviews. The wife finally took a stab at her own home brew machine, without asking my advice. The result was only very slightly better than a store bought, because she didn't know which numbers to look at, and didn't take the customer reviews into account. Ehhh - she's learns slowly, but I think she's finally convinced that she should ask my advice next time around.
Step one: google for overclocking forums, visit them, and see what all the super nerds are using for mainboards. Choose popular mainboard that you can afford, then choose the fastest CPU you can afford for that architecture. Load it with memory, and proceed from there. Together, we've been burnt by a cheap mainboard more times than all other components combined. The uber-geeks have those boards figured out two days after the prototype hits the news! Using any of their top 10 favorites guarantees a good solid machine that will last a long, long time.
The number one problem with Microsoft's licensing scheme is just that. The licensing scheme itself. "This product is licensed, not sold." I call "BULLSHIT!" I bought it, just like I would buy a damned BOOK! I have the physical floppies and CD's for several MS operating systems. They are mine, and not MS's. I will use them as I see fit, as often as I see fit, and in any manner that I see fit to use them. End of story. When MS understands that concept, then we might get along. When they understand that I can and will decompile and disasseble if and when I see fit, and that I might rebuild any part, or even all of their code to my liking, then we might get along. Sure, if I build a better kernel, or even a better DLL, I'll credit MS for their original work - but they need to understand that it is my RIGHT to look inside the freaking DLL,.exe, or whatever I choose to look at. Screw Microsoft.
And, I repeat - I'm ready to put it to the test. There have been holy men, prophets, holy books, seers, doomsayers, and any manner of other religious leaders since the dawn of time. If the messiah is coming, I'm all for it. One things is for sure - if there is a messiah, he's going to be mighty pissed at all the fools running around this earth who claim to speak for God.
On the other hand, if Israel falls - that will pretty much show that the zionists, at least, have stood in the ranks of fools. And, if that should happen, we may take another look at Christianity and Judaism. Zionism is of course not synonymous with either.
"When, not if, after the United States, like the rest of the world, abandons Israel"
I'm ready to cut Israel loose, and put that to the test. If Israel can stand on it's own feet - great. If not - they don't deserve to stand. In short, stop bleeding America for funds, weapons, and technology.
Troll - again. Your insults are highly appreciated for their originality.
I supplied the link. You read it. What's the problem? BTW - that 30 billion dollars, or 3 billion per year, ONLY includes a military aid package. It doesn't include anything else. So - MILITARY AID from the US makes up ~ 1-2% of Israel's entire economy. Or, more accurately stated, this single military aid package constitutes ~ 1-2% of Israel's entire economy.
Foreign aid from the US and other sources primarily consisting of religious organizations makes up a hell of a lot more than a percent or two of Israel's economy.
Care to dig deeper? I insist that Israel's economy would be a wreck if they had to rely on their own productivity. Foreign assistance, from whatever source, keeps them afloat.
I'll try to find that book online, so I can pirate, then read it. But, I did supply a link in my follow on post, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Palestine There were indeed massacres and atrocities on both sides. Key words being "both sides". I get so aggravated when people forget that, or simply refuse to admit it. Again, I'll say there were few "good guys" involved in any of Israel's fight for independence, on either side. The real good guys never made it into anyone's history books, unless as a statistic.
Hmmmm. Now I'm curious whether we could slashdot the FBI's website. They'd probably investigate us like we were 4chan, LMAO
That's really a pissy attitude. IANAM, but my Pa was. He could make music with anything, if he could pull a string tight across it. He and his friends actually recorded some decent music, over the years. They all had haircuts and jobs - they all raised families - they were all respectable people.
None of them ever expected to "make money" - they played music together because they loved music, they loved performing for people, and they just loved being together. They did sell a little music - a dozen tapes at a nursing home, a couple dozen at a church, another dozen at a corner store somewhere. Enough to pay for gasoline sometimes, to offset costs.
Something like Myspace would have been cool, back in the '60's up through the early '80's. They might have sold a little more music, and they certainly would have been better known outside their home counties. You may have even heard of them, if there had been a means to distribute their music for free!
Indies. Those are the REAL musicians. The labels? They know how to pry money out of fool's pockets, but they don't know music.
I was told repeatedly, on slashdot and elsewhere, that offering a choice could never work. The script was to complicated, among other things. You can't download anything until the browser is installed, among other things. That Microsoft couldn't offer browsers which they didn't own, among other things.
After all those highly intelligent individuals convinced me that this browser ballot was impossible, I KNOW it has to be fake! Those screenshots are photoshopped, it's all a figment of some demented Euro's imagination!!
NURSE!! I need another pill, please!
Ahh, to hell with the pill. Screw all the astroturfers who spent all their time with wasted arguements.
Actually, the interstates were "designed" to keep traffic moving at about 80 mph, nationwide. A good driver can actually navigate just about all of the interstate system doing that speed - some mountain areas never made the grade, and probably never will. Oh, wow, this site disagrees with what I was taught - http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/programadmin/interstate.cfm "Examples of design standards for the Interstate System include full control of access, design speeds of 50 to 70 miles per hour (depending on type of terrain),"
I'm sure that if I were to google around some more, I could find Eisenhower's stated goal of 80 mph.
Yes, I've driven 120 and faster on the interstate, but that extra speed is just a benefit of open, flat lands.
Whatever else Hussein was, he managed to maintain a semblance of order in a rather fragmented society. When the US leaves Iraq, you can expect a Shiite led government to align itself a lot closer to Iran than Hussein and his crew would ever have permitted. The results aren't in yet. Yeah, Sadman was really a savage despot, with an arm's length list of crimes against his name, but he helped to balance power in the Mideast. Bush tipped the scales, and it's anyone's guess how they will balance in the future.
Countdown to being trashed by a crowd of neocons 3 - 2 - 1 -
Ahh, don't be douche. Some of us have a hard time choosing between a patent troll and Microsoft. In this case, I'd have to side with MS.
Let's all pray to which ever holy or unholy gods we might worship or curse that SCOTUS simply shoots down software patents, and solves this whole problem. Then, we can all pray that SCOTUS gets some copyright cases soon, and establishes once and for all that copyrights are good for ~15 years - give us a good, firm number that is going to stand from now on. No more of this "life +". Renewals might be possible, but they are freaking EXPENSIVE, doubling in price with each renewal.
Or, you can just worship the God of Capitalism, and pray that SCOTUS rules against civilization.
Ahhh - ya got me. Yeah, I know that ECC is error "correction", not error "prevention". But, I was thinking along the lines of "prevention" when I posted.
The rest of your post is informative as well - thanks!
Yes, I saw that, and it was also pointed out earlier in this discussion. I, for one, am not willing to accept that statement. It should be noted that a lot of "assumptions" were made in this study, and that those assumptions are referred to throughout the TFA and the PDF. Of all the hardware errors I've ever dealt with, heat was the most common problem.
I would suspect that it has no bearing on you at all. Simply chanting "Gentoo Gentoo Gentoo" should cure any and all hardware errors. You're safe, AC.
I'll keep this fool occupied, someone go call the guys in white coats for me.
No, I don't believe so. They use server boards, custom made to their specs. And, I'm pretty sure that those specs include ECC memory - that is the standard for servers, after all. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10209580-92.html If you're really interested, that story gives you a starting point to google from.
"a mean of 3,751 correctable errors per DIMM per year."
I'm much to lazy to do the math. Let's round up - 4k errors per year has to be a vanishingly small percentage for a system that is up 24/7/365, or 5 nines. The fact that these DIMMs were "stressed" makes me wonder about the validity of the test. Heat stress, among other things, will multiply errors far beyond what you will see in normal service.
Story tagged "No news day". Phhht.
That really hit me, as I read the article. By extension, any taxpaying citizen who would read the work of an investigative reporter would also be an enemy of the state. There is simply no way to justify the logic of their classification. Expect a new expose' in the US - people who request information under the FOI act are investigated by FBI/NSA/CIA etc ad nauseum.
"In fact, 6.5 might be lousy because all effort is going into mainline instead."
You're serious, right? Or, are you playing on the posts above that say MS is a joke?
I'll answer you, with a serious answer. Mobile devices are being sold NOW. More and more people are becoming accustomed to devices that WORK. MS knows better than anyone (witness past exclusivity agreements) that the time to corner a market is in the early days. If MS wants to be relevant in the mobile devices market, they need to get into it NOW, not next month, not next year. It's a now or never thing. Each day that passes without a compelling reason to use MS OS's is one more nail in MS's coffin.
The mobile market belongs to *nix and Apple. It's just that simple. Chrome may or may not become relevant, but again, time is working against them, just as it is working against Microsoft.
Well, politicians aren't held to ANY standard. Witness that senator for Mass they screwed into the ground just weeks ago. Ask the former Governor of Illinois what standards he was held to. He just went to far when he tried to auction off a senate position. I wonder what the results would be if I googled "Where to congressmen stick their peckers?" Employees and appointees have higher standards than elected officials, but that doesn't mean much.
Mmmm - yes, you make a point. But, I'm not certain that we understand each other's points, fully. Yes, Asus is a reputable mainboard company. One of the best boards I've ever owned is an Asus. It's already 7 years old, I've upgraded the BIOS twice, added peripherals that weren't supported when it was new - it's a great board. BUT - the wife's semi-successful homebrew is based on an Asus K8N board. It isn't as high quality as my SK8V, it was built for the abandoned socket 754, and most importantly, you won't find it in any overclocker's forum archives as an overclocker's dream. (In fact, it is marginally over clockable, but onboard video and the CPU both suffer from heat stress, and freeze up with a stock GPU and CPU coolers in place.)
So, I stress, don't rely as much on brand name, as the reviews in the over clocker's forums. If Mad Gamer posts about the outstanding stability of Asus model XXxX when overclocked at 5 Ghz, buy it. The wildly overclocked board that lasts him 6 months to 1 year will probably last for ten years in more normal service.
From another article on the subject:
The Guides are administrative interpretations of the law intended to help advertisers comply with the Federal Trade Commission Act; they are not binding law themselves. In any law enforcement action challenging the allegedly deceptive use of testimonials or endorsements, the Commission would have the burden of proving that the challenged conduct violates the FTC Act.
http://7thspace.com/headlines/322265/ftc_publishes_final_guides_governing_endorsements_testimonials.html
In effect, the FTC has looked at existing laws, and decided that bloggers, among other people, have been violating existing law. There is really no new law, rule, or regulation. What we actually have is a statement of policy, regarding the manner in which existing laws will be applied.
As for being unenforceable - good luck with that one. I'll read about it in the news.
Actually you're a little off target. The FCC isn't limiting free speech. You can still write any mindless drivel you care to write, if you think it will help to sell your chosen product. The FCC is actually trying to enforce a little bit of "truth in advertising". If Company "X" paid you to form an opinion that is favorable to them, people have the right to know that you're just another talking head prostituting himself to Company "X"
"Maybe the astroturfing garbage will finally stop... or at least be more obvious."
I want to see how that works out on slashdot. It should be amusing.
Anonymous Coward posts:
Linux sucks, only gays want it, only idiots and democrats use it. Apple is for elitest homos and republicans. Unix only works for fossilized fags who dream in binary. MS rocks, Gates is God, and Ballmer is the messiah.
Disclaimer: AC is paid $25 per thousand words by Microsoft corporation to bash Linux and Apple while praising MS.
Ditto here, from experience. My home brews just keep on going, and going, and going, while the pretty store bought machines that the wife likes fall apart. I don't buy the most expensive, highest quality parts either - just good, solid items with good reviews. The wife finally took a stab at her own home brew machine, without asking my advice. The result was only very slightly better than a store bought, because she didn't know which numbers to look at, and didn't take the customer reviews into account. Ehhh - she's learns slowly, but I think she's finally convinced that she should ask my advice next time around.
Step one: google for overclocking forums, visit them, and see what all the super nerds are using for mainboards. Choose popular mainboard that you can afford, then choose the fastest CPU you can afford for that architecture. Load it with memory, and proceed from there. Together, we've been burnt by a cheap mainboard more times than all other components combined. The uber-geeks have those boards figured out two days after the prototype hits the news! Using any of their top 10 favorites guarantees a good solid machine that will last a long, long time.
The number one problem with Microsoft's licensing scheme is just that. The licensing scheme itself. "This product is licensed, not sold." I call "BULLSHIT!" I bought it, just like I would buy a damned BOOK! I have the physical floppies and CD's for several MS operating systems. They are mine, and not MS's. I will use them as I see fit, as often as I see fit, and in any manner that I see fit to use them. End of story. When MS understands that concept, then we might get along. When they understand that I can and will decompile and disasseble if and when I see fit, and that I might rebuild any part, or even all of their code to my liking, then we might get along. Sure, if I build a better kernel, or even a better DLL, I'll credit MS for their original work - but they need to understand that it is my RIGHT to look inside the freaking DLL, .exe, or whatever I choose to look at. Screw Microsoft.
And, I repeat - I'm ready to put it to the test. There have been holy men, prophets, holy books, seers, doomsayers, and any manner of other religious leaders since the dawn of time. If the messiah is coming, I'm all for it. One things is for sure - if there is a messiah, he's going to be mighty pissed at all the fools running around this earth who claim to speak for God.
On the other hand, if Israel falls - that will pretty much show that the zionists, at least, have stood in the ranks of fools. And, if that should happen, we may take another look at Christianity and Judaism. Zionism is of course not synonymous with either.
"When, not if, after the United States, like the rest of the world, abandons Israel"
I'm ready to cut Israel loose, and put that to the test. If Israel can stand on it's own feet - great. If not - they don't deserve to stand. In short, stop bleeding America for funds, weapons, and technology.
Troll - again. Your insults are highly appreciated for their originality.
I supplied the link. You read it. What's the problem? BTW - that 30 billion dollars, or 3 billion per year, ONLY includes a military aid package. It doesn't include anything else. So - MILITARY AID from the US makes up ~ 1-2% of Israel's entire economy. Or, more accurately stated, this single military aid package constitutes ~ 1-2% of Israel's entire economy.
Foreign aid from the US and other sources primarily consisting of religious organizations makes up a hell of a lot more than a percent or two of Israel's economy.
Care to dig deeper? I insist that Israel's economy would be a wreck if they had to rely on their own productivity. Foreign assistance, from whatever source, keeps them afloat.
I'll try to find that book online, so I can pirate, then read it. But, I did supply a link in my follow on post, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_in_Palestine There were indeed massacres and atrocities on both sides. Key words being "both sides". I get so aggravated when people forget that, or simply refuse to admit it. Again, I'll say there were few "good guys" involved in any of Israel's fight for independence, on either side. The real good guys never made it into anyone's history books, unless as a statistic.