What is it going to be shot down with? Scroll up to read my reply to Tuoqui. Someone, somewhere, can indeed shoot the damned thing down. But, do some googling, and you'll quickly learn that not every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed has the capability.
There are no hand held weapons that reach out that far. Those people talking about RPG's and sniper rifles are clueless. I'd be a little worried about stingers; Raytheon claims it can reach out that far, but not that high. I'd be more worried about medium sized howitzers - but most howitzers aren't configured for dual purpose like naval guns are. You'd have to park it on a hillside to get the elevation necessary, then it would probably fall of the hill when fired. More, we are talking about skills that "army" gunners don't have - they do not routinely track and target air/naval targets. The best bet seems to be an AA battery, but I've not seen any indication that anyone in the region has AA. Remember, when the Russians were there, the Afghans relied on our donations of stingers. I can't recall one report of AA emplacements such as Saddam Hussein had in Iraq.
Finally - anything that has a reasonable chance of hitting the damned thing is going to have radar and/or laser targeting. Since they are trying to target a surveillance craft, chances are good that as soon as they light up the electronics, it has targeted THEM!!
That's exactly what I did, and that's how I got into your girlfriend's room. She's tired of you sitting on the goddamned roof, staring at the stars. Now, get your ass down from there, will you? I can't service ALL the women around here by myself! And, just LOOK at her ROOM!!! It's a MESS, just like you said. Satisfied women don't live like this!
Fluffy. Bunny. Girlintraining says fluffy bunny./me ponders the probability that if a MAN came up with that name, he would be carted away on pedo and bestiality charges. Reality: stranger than fiction.
They don't. Obviously, you haven't looked at them all, if you believe they all look like Windows. You still get 1/2 point for pointing out the obvious, though. MOST popular distros DO resemble Windows when installed with "default" settings.
Ahhh, but, you asked "why", right?
Simple. Linux is wooing the Windows crowd. It is necessary to give them something familiar, so that they aren't totally helpless when the machine boots up. Hence, similarity.
If you don't like the windows look, you have many options. Explore them. Get rid of Gnome or KDE, and install something different. Need someone to hold your hand? There is a support forum for your favorite distro - just post.
"It probably won't be more than 20 years before it's obvious to everyone"
That sums up most of the climataphobes case. Some conjecture based on short term observations. Go build another model, alright?
NOTE: I built a lot of models as a kid, but that doesn't qualify me as a marine engineer, an automotive engineer, or even an aviation engineer. Building climate models doesn't qualify anyone to do anything more than to build models.
Global climate change on Mars certainly helps corroborate the idea that our own climate changes might be natural. The mysogenistic anthropomophists haven't had the last say.
BTW - if you're worried about man's impact on the environment, get off your buttocks, and plant some trees. Trap some carbon. Think of the children.
"Your argument is remarkably short-sighted in that it presumes that work that is not being currently put to use has been abandoned to the public domain. This is simply wrong, and it is not an assumption you, nor Google, has a right to make."
I am a presumptuous bastard. If you leave your car parked on my property for several months, I will presume it to be abandoned, and use the car as I see fit. Likewise, leaving a published work unattended for a number of years indicates that you have no intention of using it, and that it SHOULD go into the public domain. We might argue over how many years is sufficient to indicate that the work has been abandoned, but at some point, I will win the argument. Copyright law backs me up.
"You say that "no-one is using them, no one is making any effort to protect their IP rights, no one is doing anything". Categorically, that only applies to public domain works."
No, you are categorically wrong. Google has offered an "opt out" deal. Any publisher or IP owner who is blissfully ignorant of that deal, and fails to take advantage of it, is demonstrably NOT protecting their IP rights. They have done NOTHING.
Again, the distinctions are merely legal distinctions, quibbled over by lawyers, at the expense of one and all. For my purposes, they are all the same - they grant me the right to presume that the owner doesn't care enough to protect his property.
I missed that post. And, I certainly never though of "limited editions" of an author's works. Now that you mention it, I'm asking myself, "Is that ethical?"
How simplistic and naive. Surely, you don't consider that an argument?
My biggest problem with engineered bio-products, is that they become monocultures. A diverse gene pool, whether we are talking about corn, potatoes, or sugar beets, is protection against disease and predation. We have wiped out strains of vegetables. Many potatoes have become nothing more than a curiosity in some old timer's garden. Ditto with corn. I'm not real familiar with sugar beets - don't have any idea how many strains there are, or were. But, if we are only growing ONE strain on 90% of the farms that raise sugar beets, we are setting ourselves up for real problems. Some blight that affects that one particular strain can wipe out production for one year, and possibly prevent crops for several years.
I summarized my view. IMO, "abandoned works", "out of print", "public domain", "creative commons", and a variety of other terms are very nearly interchangeable. Bottom line is, no one is using them, no one is making any effort to protect their "IP" rights, no one is doing anything.
Please don't be pedantic by showing me links to legal terms - I will insist that they are effectively the same.
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Gotta 3/.
But, IMO, it's about time to start letting that censorship crap go. Really. Apparently, the game is perfectly legal and acceptable all around the world, except Germany. After 6 decades it's just time to move on. And, no, "moving on" doesn't mean forgetting the lessons of the past - it only means accepting the lessons, then moving on. Nothing more, nothing less.
Rough translation of the current state of affairs:
Google has been eyeballing this huge mass of abandoned property, as have a few other companies. Google has finally moved toward putting this property to some use. Understand, the use is not an "exclusive" thing - they are just going to use it, since no one else is. Little kids can still romp and play on the property, people can do anything they like.
But, other corporations see Google preparing to use the property, and fear that Google might make money from it in some way. Of course, if there is any financial gain to be had, then "MY COMPANY" should be entitled to some of it.
In effect, the new negotiations are meant to ensure that other people and companies CAN make money. There really isn't much more to it than that.
Odd, that Project Gutenberg has been quietly doing the same thing for some years now, and no one has jumped on them. No one else has volunteered to step forward, and get their hands dirty. Much ado about nothing, IMHO
I see your point. Why don't we start a movement to bring back scrolls made of papyrus or parchment? I mean, those guys have been suffering for hundreds of years now. Paperback and hardback books were unfair competition to an ages old profession.
Seriously, I love books. I'm also fearful of moving into a world where physical books don't exist. If the electricity goes out, and the batteries go dead, you CAN'T READ ebooks. But, all the same, I see no rational reason for preventing electronic libraries. At this point in time, I see no objection to Google's plans, but whether it's Google or any other company, let's get the out of print books online.
Dead tree publishers will just have to adapt somehow. Think of it as a carbon credit. Every book that you download and read saves a few pounds of cellulose, somewhere.
"Not all of us are looking to censor vulgar speech or freak out at the sight of a bare chested woman. Most of us actually are quite foul mouthed, and being on this website and even reading the comments probably means that the most of us aren't easily offended.
I pirate anything and everything that catches my eye. Happy? It makes me feel good. I feel smarter than the corporate bobbing heads, because I can do what they forbid me to do. I pirate stuff that I have no use for, just to see what makes it tick. I don't need or want Windows 7, but I'm testing it anyway, and testing the cracks as well. Why? Just because. I don't NEED a justification!!
That said, the price attached to Microsoft software is extortionate, exorbitant, and unjustifiable by anyone other than a diehard corporate tool.
Open ports are always a bad idea. Some people lose money due to open ports, some people get pregnant due to opening the wrong port - you just got a bug this time. Be careful.
Oh-kay, I'll be up front and honest. I enjoy bashing MS. Given a decent reason, I'll dump on them, 'cause I just don't like them. So, I really would feel good if the state went after all those lost revenues.
BUT - it isn't just MS. At least 70% of all corporations in the US are incorporated in a state that favors the corporation and/or use some very imaginative BS accounting procedures to make sure that no government gets any more than an absolute minimum of taxes.
I would really, really love to see taxes restructured to eliminate all those sneaky ass tricks that all those corporations use. There are so MANY things that we can't do, like A. get a city to finance new construction for us B. get huge tax break promises for locating a business in a state/city C. hire foreign nationals at reduced wages AND get government subsidies for those workers D. break promises to the government based on sneaky loopholes - if I tell the city I'm going to do something, they are going to hold me to it.
I could go on for a bit - if I resorted to Google, I could go on for quite a long while!!
Few corporations are carrying their tax load in this country. Many of those that are carrying a tax load, like IBM, are moving out of the country to escape any responsibility.
Something is terribly wrong here.
So, yeah, go after MS, but that should only be the warming-up exercise.
You'll be hearing from our lawyers soon. The crashes involving our automobiles were entirely due to operator error. There is nothing wrong with our braking system!!
Danny Ubanti President and CEO Ubanti Motor Company Inc Ltd
Heh. Jurassic park was a mediocrity, but I've watched it two or three times because what's-her-name looks pretty real. She has imperfections that make her real, and endearing. I hate to watch a movie where all the women are freaking plastic statues with "perfect" busts, hips, butts, legs, etc. If I were one to join a fan club, I'd look up what's-her-name and join hers. Pretty convincing acting, in addition to a real human appearance.
Try the "Bargain Bin" in most department stores, and even some auto parts stores. While a quality 15" crescent might cost 50 bucks, those bargain bins have "Made in China" wrenches that are quite suitable for loosening lips. Depending on the fortitude of the "suspect", $5 will usually do the trick.
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What is it going to be shot down with? Scroll up to read my reply to Tuoqui. Someone, somewhere, can indeed shoot the damned thing down. But, do some googling, and you'll quickly learn that not every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed has the capability.
There are no hand held weapons that reach out that far. Those people talking about RPG's and sniper rifles are clueless. I'd be a little worried about stingers; Raytheon claims it can reach out that far, but not that high. I'd be more worried about medium sized howitzers - but most howitzers aren't configured for dual purpose like naval guns are. You'd have to park it on a hillside to get the elevation necessary, then it would probably fall of the hill when fired. More, we are talking about skills that "army" gunners don't have - they do not routinely track and target air/naval targets. The best bet seems to be an AA battery, but I've not seen any indication that anyone in the region has AA. Remember, when the Russians were there, the Afghans relied on our donations of stingers. I can't recall one report of AA emplacements such as Saddam Hussein had in Iraq.
Finally - anything that has a reasonable chance of hitting the damned thing is going to have radar and/or laser targeting. Since they are trying to target a surveillance craft, chances are good that as soon as they light up the electronics, it has targeted THEM!!
"Is that a train I hear? OH SHIT!! INCOMING!!"
"Now go looking for Messier objects"
That's exactly what I did, and that's how I got into your girlfriend's room. She's tired of you sitting on the goddamned roof, staring at the stars. Now, get your ass down from there, will you? I can't service ALL the women around here by myself! And, just LOOK at her ROOM!!! It's a MESS, just like you said. Satisfied women don't live like this!
Fluffy. Bunny. Girlintraining says fluffy bunny. /me ponders the probability that if a MAN came up with that name, he would be carted away on pedo and bestiality charges. Reality: stranger than fiction.
"so why does all linux distro look like windows?"
They don't. Obviously, you haven't looked at them all, if you believe they all look like Windows. You still get 1/2 point for pointing out the obvious, though. MOST popular distros DO resemble Windows when installed with "default" settings.
Ahhh, but, you asked "why", right?
Simple. Linux is wooing the Windows crowd. It is necessary to give them something familiar, so that they aren't totally helpless when the machine boots up. Hence, similarity.
If you don't like the windows look, you have many options. Explore them. Get rid of Gnome or KDE, and install something different. Need someone to hold your hand? There is a support forum for your favorite distro - just post.
"Coverity Report Finds OSS Bug Density Down Since 2006"
Bad news for entomologists, huh?
"It probably won't be more than 20 years before it's obvious to everyone"
That sums up most of the climataphobes case. Some conjecture based on short term observations. Go build another model, alright?
NOTE: I built a lot of models as a kid, but that doesn't qualify me as a marine engineer, an automotive engineer, or even an aviation engineer. Building climate models doesn't qualify anyone to do anything more than to build models.
Global climate change on Mars certainly helps corroborate the idea that our own climate changes might be natural. The mysogenistic anthropomophists haven't had the last say.
BTW - if you're worried about man's impact on the environment, get off your buttocks, and plant some trees. Trap some carbon. Think of the children.
"Your argument is remarkably short-sighted in that it presumes that work that is not being currently put to use has been abandoned to the public domain. This is simply wrong, and it is not an assumption you, nor Google, has a right to make."
I am a presumptuous bastard. If you leave your car parked on my property for several months, I will presume it to be abandoned, and use the car as I see fit. Likewise, leaving a published work unattended for a number of years indicates that you have no intention of using it, and that it SHOULD go into the public domain. We might argue over how many years is sufficient to indicate that the work has been abandoned, but at some point, I will win the argument. Copyright law backs me up.
"You say that "no-one is using them, no one is making any effort to protect their IP rights, no one is doing anything". Categorically, that only applies to public domain works."
No, you are categorically wrong. Google has offered an "opt out" deal. Any publisher or IP owner who is blissfully ignorant of that deal, and fails to take advantage of it, is demonstrably NOT protecting their IP rights. They have done NOTHING.
Again, the distinctions are merely legal distinctions, quibbled over by lawyers, at the expense of one and all. For my purposes, they are all the same - they grant me the right to presume that the owner doesn't care enough to protect his property.
I missed that post. And, I certainly never though of "limited editions" of an author's works. Now that you mention it, I'm asking myself, "Is that ethical?"
Ethical or not, it's food for thought.
How simplistic and naive. Surely, you don't consider that an argument?
My biggest problem with engineered bio-products, is that they become monocultures. A diverse gene pool, whether we are talking about corn, potatoes, or sugar beets, is protection against disease and predation. We have wiped out strains of vegetables. Many potatoes have become nothing more than a curiosity in some old timer's garden. Ditto with corn. I'm not real familiar with sugar beets - don't have any idea how many strains there are, or were. But, if we are only growing ONE strain on 90% of the farms that raise sugar beets, we are setting ourselves up for real problems. Some blight that affects that one particular strain can wipe out production for one year, and possibly prevent crops for several years.
Monoculture is deadly. Think of it as inbreeding.
I summarized my view. IMO, "abandoned works", "out of print", "public domain", "creative commons", and a variety of other terms are very nearly interchangeable. Bottom line is, no one is using them, no one is making any effort to protect their "IP" rights, no one is doing anything.
Please don't be pedantic by showing me links to legal terms - I will insist that they are effectively the same.
"Use it, or lose it"
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Gotta 3 /.
But, IMO, it's about time to start letting that censorship crap go. Really. Apparently, the game is perfectly legal and acceptable all around the world, except Germany. After 6 decades it's just time to move on. And, no, "moving on" doesn't mean forgetting the lessons of the past - it only means accepting the lessons, then moving on. Nothing more, nothing less.
Rough translation of the current state of affairs:
Google has been eyeballing this huge mass of abandoned property, as have a few other companies. Google has finally moved toward putting this property to some use. Understand, the use is not an "exclusive" thing - they are just going to use it, since no one else is. Little kids can still romp and play on the property, people can do anything they like.
But, other corporations see Google preparing to use the property, and fear that Google might make money from it in some way. Of course, if there is any financial gain to be had, then "MY COMPANY" should be entitled to some of it.
In effect, the new negotiations are meant to ensure that other people and companies CAN make money. There really isn't much more to it than that.
Odd, that Project Gutenberg has been quietly doing the same thing for some years now, and no one has jumped on them. No one else has volunteered to step forward, and get their hands dirty. Much ado about nothing, IMHO
I see your point. Why don't we start a movement to bring back scrolls made of papyrus or parchment? I mean, those guys have been suffering for hundreds of years now. Paperback and hardback books were unfair competition to an ages old profession.
Seriously, I love books. I'm also fearful of moving into a world where physical books don't exist. If the electricity goes out, and the batteries go dead, you CAN'T READ ebooks. But, all the same, I see no rational reason for preventing electronic libraries. At this point in time, I see no objection to Google's plans, but whether it's Google or any other company, let's get the out of print books online.
Dead tree publishers will just have to adapt somehow. Think of it as a carbon credit. Every book that you download and read saves a few pounds of cellulose, somewhere.
"Not all of us are looking to censor vulgar speech or freak out at the sight of a bare chested woman. Most of us actually are quite foul mouthed, and being on this website and even reading the comments probably means that the most of us aren't easily offended.
Also, fuck you, BITCH!"
FTFY
I pirate anything and everything that catches my eye. Happy? It makes me feel good. I feel smarter than the corporate bobbing heads, because I can do what they forbid me to do. I pirate stuff that I have no use for, just to see what makes it tick. I don't need or want Windows 7, but I'm testing it anyway, and testing the cracks as well. Why? Just because. I don't NEED a justification!!
That said, the price attached to Microsoft software is extortionate, exorbitant, and unjustifiable by anyone other than a diehard corporate tool.
Open ports are always a bad idea. Some people lose money due to open ports, some people get pregnant due to opening the wrong port - you just got a bug this time. Be careful.
Oh-kay, I'll be up front and honest. I enjoy bashing MS. Given a decent reason, I'll dump on them, 'cause I just don't like them. So, I really would feel good if the state went after all those lost revenues.
BUT - it isn't just MS. At least 70% of all corporations in the US are incorporated in a state that favors the corporation and/or use some very imaginative BS accounting procedures to make sure that no government gets any more than an absolute minimum of taxes.
I would really, really love to see taxes restructured to eliminate all those sneaky ass tricks that all those corporations use. There are so MANY things that we can't do, like
A. get a city to finance new construction for us
B. get huge tax break promises for locating a business in a state/city
C. hire foreign nationals at reduced wages AND get government subsidies for those workers
D. break promises to the government based on sneaky loopholes - if I tell the city I'm going to do something, they are going to hold me to it.
I could go on for a bit - if I resorted to Google, I could go on for quite a long while!!
Few corporations are carrying their tax load in this country. Many of those that are carrying a tax load, like IBM, are moving out of the country to escape any responsibility.
Something is terribly wrong here.
So, yeah, go after MS, but that should only be the warming-up exercise.
You'll be hearing from our lawyers soon. The crashes involving our automobiles were entirely due to operator error. There is nothing wrong with our braking system!!
Danny Ubanti
President and CEO
Ubanti Motor Company Inc Ltd
"I think that there are a lot of people around WHO don't know when to use an apostrophe."
I think that there are a lot of people around who enjoy being arrogant asses, despite the fact that they are ignorant.
"People are riddled with imperfections."
Heh. Jurassic park was a mediocrity, but I've watched it two or three times because what's-her-name looks pretty real. She has imperfections that make her real, and endearing. I hate to watch a movie where all the women are freaking plastic statues with "perfect" busts, hips, butts, legs, etc. If I were one to join a fan club, I'd look up what's-her-name and join hers. Pretty convincing acting, in addition to a real human appearance.
"People at least do not dry up, wilt, sag, and turn funny colors"
It takes more than an hour, youngster, but your turn is coming. Married, yet? You have so much to look forward to!
Try the "Bargain Bin" in most department stores, and even some auto parts stores. While a quality 15" crescent might cost 50 bucks, those bargain bins have "Made in China" wrenches that are quite suitable for loosening lips. Depending on the fortitude of the "suspect", $5 will usually do the trick.
This post just proves that trolls love skanks and whores. Phhht.