"as long as firearms are treated as an individual right"
If you are literate, you will find that the militia has the right to bear arms, AND that said militia consists of all able-bodied men, without qualification. Try reading again, then come back and try to tell me different. In today's world, the militia may very well include able-bodied women, as well. So, yes, it IS an individual right - one which may not be constitutionally infringed upon without due process of law.
"Is that why a particular group of people are showing up at healthcare town hall discussions with firearms "
Citation? Let me tell you before you get started - I'm neither a democrat, nor a republican. Both make me nauseous. I don't subscribe to the party line of any party, and I read pretty widely. You give me some credible sources, I might believe you. But, please, don't expect me to accept a claim like that based on your word and one or two anecdotal stories on a blog somewhere. Details with names and photos with recognizable landmardks would be great. A blurry cell-phone pic that might have been shot in some slashdotter's basement home won't work either.
Some Americans, anyway. No one in my family has a contract. We use the cheapo phones sold with a pre pay plan. Even the cheapos are getting to be moderately sophisticated - especially if you bear in mind that when I was growing up, about the only people with portable telephones were President Kennedy, and James Bond. Oh yeah, don't forget Dick Tracy!!;^)
Ahem. Not all of us are teenagers. Nor did the wife start out with her C-cups. She started out as a little bitty flat chested girl. Most girls start out that way.... even the ones who eventually develop monstrous double D's
"it would require a close pass between start systems or somehting equally energetic."
Why? On the scale of "something equally energetic", I might point out the possibility of a black hole. But, why must it be on that scale at all? An orbiting planet struck by a large enough bit of space debris might have it's orbit slowed enough, that 6 million years later it falls into it's sun. That space debris may even have been a sister planet whose orbit was wildly eccentric. That sister may have already fallen into the sun. Or, the same sister may have picked up speed, and it now orbits so far out that we haven't spotted it orbiting the sun yet.
Then again - maybe the simplest solution is the right one. However long ago the planet was formed, it's orbit was unstable to start with, and we just happen to have found it as that unstable orbit came to it's logical conclusion - splashdown.
I think we can put pretty high confidence in what they are seeing. It's the conclusions that are questionable. Interpreting data can be pretty tricky right here on earth. Look at the controversy over global warming!!
Sometimes, scientists just get a little to full of themselves, and put to much importance on their own ideas.
Last I checked, very few women come equipped with DD breasts. I've been watching my wife grow up for several decades now, and she still has C cups. I don't believe they're going to grow much more in the life left to her. Well, they may grow droopy, but they still won't be D's, let alone double D's.
BTW - my sons and I use muzzle loaders, as well. My weapon of choice is a Remington 700 BDL.243. It was the second high powered rifle I ever bought. Had I researched a little more before the purchase, it would have been a.270, for the simple reason that it can be loaded for rabbit, or for elephant. My.243 is much less versatile than the.270.
Both weapons make clean kills without destroying all the ribs along with entire hind quarters like the sexier, more macho.30 and.40 magnum loads.
Assault rifle, for my purposes, are any of the "sexy" weapons, such as the Chinese SKS that were sold by the thousands a few years ago. Almost any semi-automatic qualifies, especially when it is clip fed, and rapidly reloaded.
If a man can't hunt with a single shot rifle (or a muzzle loader) then he's not a hunter. The first shot gets the deer, the second shot alerts the county that some fool who can't shoot has just scared a deer.
Trucks for hauling the kill home? That's cool. What about the ATV's and crap? The truck should be parked at a base camp somewhere, the hunting party goes into the woods on foot, and they pack the kill back to the truck. Two healthy men can pack out the biggest dear that I've ever seen.
There's something wrong with your story. To a lesser extent than an archer, a muzzle loader needs to get closer to the prey than people who hunt with high powered rifles. You don't hop on an ATV, and go racing through the forest, shooting anything that moves. You simply can't hunt like the idiots who come out from the city every year with their monster truck, cases of ammo, and cases of beer. Those people are full of machismo, and nothing else.
So, what the FUCK are you arguing with me for? You're black powder hunter, and you're arguing for vehicles running through the woods? Go back and read everything that has been written here.
Question: just how big are the woods "out here"? Which state are you in? If you are in the continental United States, there are only a very few places where you can get more than 20 miles from a paved road. Counting logging roads, I don't think that there is a forested area where you can get more than 5 miles from a roadway.
Are you capable of carrying 1/2 of a field dressed deer out of the woods? What about your hunting buddies?
Before you tell me that you hunt alone - the FIRST deer I ever took was dragged 3 1/2 miles to a roadway, and I only had assistance with the last 1/2 mile. At that time I was a 90 pound kid, and the deer weighed more than I did. (115 pounds, field dressed)
How macho are you? If you're half as macho as you sound in print, you don't need a damned truck out in the woods.
"I don't care at all what you think of my recreation style."
Telling obvious lies on a public forum is just plain STOOPID! If you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted. You wouldn't have wasted half an hour of your life trying to articulate your contempt for me. You wouldn't have wasted that time failing to prove how macho you are.
At least you didn't waste both of our time telling me that you and your sons are fucking LARD ASSES.
My family and I have laughed at your kind for decades. No real hunter takes a truck into the woods. A real hunter doesn't even need those overpowered assault rifles that half of you city boys carry into the woods. I've already stated that I can bring more food home with a sharp stick than most of the city boys we see tearing the woods up on their ATV's.
Call me a hippy, if you like. Calling me doesn't make me one - it only helps to show how morally bankrupt you are.
Uhhhh, first point? Assholes are human. Ever met a non-human asshole? I mean without being abducted by aliens for perverse sexual experiments....
And, third. I store my terrorist plans embedded in my niece's "My little Pony" videos. I got that tip at Al Queda's "Advanced Terrorism in the Digital Age" class. (Oh-kay, maybe I lie - I can't even speak Arabic, so, no, I didn't take the course)
"I mean it is 200 years old document, some of it is hardly relevant today."
I call bullshit. There is nothing in the constitution of the United States, or the amendments, that is irrelevant today. The amendment prohibiting the possession and consumption of alcohol is irrelevant, yes, BUT, there is a subsequent amendment repealing that amendment. It is a nice tidy document, which defines how government should be run. All other laws are supposed to fit within that guide.
That very relevant document is the litmus paper used to test all other laws in this nation.
It hasn't been necessary to change that constitution very many times, because the people who wrote it put a lot of work, and a lot of foresight into it.
I'll thank you not to declare my constitution as irrelevant. I rely on it for my freedoms of speech, my right to vote, my right to bear arms (yes, my PERSOANAL RIGHT to bear a firearm), my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That document is so relevant, that I am perfectly willing to go out and fight for it despite the fact that I'm an old bastard with sons in uniform.
Thank you, I'll step down off the ammo box now...... (an ammo box can be used for a soapbox or a ballot box, there's no need to keep three seperate boxes around)
Reasonable is a relative thing. With a fear mongering government, ala George Orwelle or any of a variety of other authors, reasonable searches will include your dirty underwear.
In the United States, reasonable should mean, "If the officer has probable cause to believe you are an imminent threat, he may search on the spot. If the officer has probably cause to believe that you might be a threat at some more distant point in time, then he should request a WARRANT to search your belongings."
I hope that clears things up.
While I don't think that it's right, the government might get away with treating non-citizens in a manner that presumes guilt. They cannot justify doing so with citizens, while claiming to uphold the constitution of the United States.
Lobbyists and people who write letters to their congressmen are entirely different creatures. I thank you for trying to attempt to muddy the water, though. For your edification, a lobbyist is generally either paid to go to the capital, or he has a high value personal interest in a bill, or set of bills. As opposed to the "little people" who are supposed to be represented by said congressman or senator. Democracy is the concept of "One citizen, one equal vote", contrasted against the concept of "The biggest campaign contribution wins".
TBH, after I posted my remark above, I got to thinking a little. Yes, it's obvious that temp and pressure are related, but didn't really have any idea if it's a linear relation or what. Temps in that chart look a little higher than memory tells me - but again, I wasn't a boiler tech.
NABT (not a boiler technician) but I'd like to know how much pressure the thing generates. I've been around 600 pound and 1200 pound boilers, and learned some of the problems with the high pressure system. (basically, it was shit) I'm curious how much pressure this thing is using, and why and how. 400 degrees really means next to nothing, I don't know why they even put that little detail in the story.
By your definition, neoconservatives are hippies. They think that their ideas and opinions are more important than all the rest of the world. Why don't we go invade a couple more countries to prove how hip we are?
The douchebags are those who have to go out into the "wilderness" with their bikes and ATV's to tear up wild life habitat, all the while pouring their exhaust fumes into the world's air supply. Hippy? I'm not old enough. And, don't try with the liberal bleeding heart crap. Bleeding hearts won't kill a cute little bunny and eat it. Instead of eating squirrels, they feed peanut and stuff to the tree rats.
Think of the children. If you get them HIKING through the woods, instead of tearing the woods up on an ATV, the bearers of your DNA are more likely to live a long, healthy life.
I can do that. My pointy stick has brought home more food than half the city freaks have ever brought home with a frigging assault rifle and 10 cases of ammunition.
"Camping" and "gasoline" are mutually exclusive. "Gasoline" and "mucking up the environment to prove how manly I am" go well together.
"using a house's concrete foundation to cool a pc" sort of gives it away. The word "sink" used in conjunction with "heat" implies no physical orientation, whatsoever. When a guy finally clicks on the link in TFA, the pictures show precisely what I describe.;^)
Parent is insightful? Insightful, my ass. One just might draw a corollary that these aging, obese patients were lacking in neural material to start with, and that's how they got to BE so fat!!
Seriously - people who give a damn about their health and appearance, people who care enough to take care of their bodies, will incidentally be taking care of the tissue that houses their minds as well. By no means does that mean they are minding their minds. There are plenty of stupid, ignorant skinny people to put the lie to that idea! But, at least they have tended the physical aspects of the contents of their skulls.
Fat on the brain is at least as bad as fat on the heart!
The guy who posted TFA is not real bright. He had an extremely good idea, planned it out, and executed it magnificently. Then, he screwed it all up by posting about it on Slashdot. Self proclaimed architects and engineers have shot the idea full of holes. *sigh*
Wait! It's me who isn't real bright!! TFA was just trolling to see how many idiots would answer!!!
"Clearly the pipe is going to run vertically, protruding through the concrete in two places, and then into the Earth below the slab"
You and I have each made an assumption about the placement of the tubing. While you assume the tubing will be vertical, I assumed that the tubing will be bent below the surface of the concrete, so that it lies parallel to the ground. Either orientation would work, but bending the tubing is easier, because you don't have to dig a deep hole to accomodate the tubing. You can't drive it into the ground, after all - copper tubing is soft.
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"as long as firearms are treated as an individual right"
If you are literate, you will find that the militia has the right to bear arms, AND that said militia consists of all able-bodied men, without qualification. Try reading again, then come back and try to tell me different. In today's world, the militia may very well include able-bodied women, as well. So, yes, it IS an individual right - one which may not be constitutionally infringed upon without due process of law.
"Is that why a particular group of people are showing up at healthcare town hall discussions with firearms "
Citation? Let me tell you before you get started - I'm neither a democrat, nor a republican. Both make me nauseous. I don't subscribe to the party line of any party, and I read pretty widely. You give me some credible sources, I might believe you. But, please, don't expect me to accept a claim like that based on your word and one or two anecdotal stories on a blog somewhere. Details with names and photos with recognizable landmardks would be great. A blurry cell-phone pic that might have been shot in some slashdotter's basement home won't work either.
"but only to americans"
Some Americans, anyway. No one in my family has a contract. We use the cheapo phones sold with a pre pay plan. Even the cheapos are getting to be moderately sophisticated - especially if you bear in mind that when I was growing up, about the only people with portable telephones were President Kennedy, and James Bond. Oh yeah, don't forget Dick Tracy!! ;^)
Bad dog! Get off my lawn!! And, take your dumb kid with you!
Ahem. Not all of us are teenagers. Nor did the wife start out with her C-cups. She started out as a little bitty flat chested girl. Most girls start out that way.... even the ones who eventually develop monstrous double D's
"it would require a close pass between start systems or somehting equally energetic."
Why? On the scale of "something equally energetic", I might point out the possibility of a black hole. But, why must it be on that scale at all? An orbiting planet struck by a large enough bit of space debris might have it's orbit slowed enough, that 6 million years later it falls into it's sun. That space debris may even have been a sister planet whose orbit was wildly eccentric. That sister may have already fallen into the sun. Or, the same sister may have picked up speed, and it now orbits so far out that we haven't spotted it orbiting the sun yet.
Then again - maybe the simplest solution is the right one. However long ago the planet was formed, it's orbit was unstable to start with, and we just happen to have found it as that unstable orbit came to it's logical conclusion - splashdown.
I think we can put pretty high confidence in what they are seeing. It's the conclusions that are questionable. Interpreting data can be pretty tricky right here on earth. Look at the controversy over global warming!!
Sometimes, scientists just get a little to full of themselves, and put to much importance on their own ideas.
Last I checked, very few women come equipped with DD breasts. I've been watching my wife grow up for several decades now, and she still has C cups. I don't believe they're going to grow much more in the life left to her. Well, they may grow droopy, but they still won't be D's, let alone double D's.
BTW - my sons and I use muzzle loaders, as well. My weapon of choice is a Remington 700 BDL .243. It was the second high powered rifle I ever bought. Had I researched a little more before the purchase, it would have been a .270, for the simple reason that it can be loaded for rabbit, or for elephant. My .243 is much less versatile than the .270.
Both weapons make clean kills without destroying all the ribs along with entire hind quarters like the sexier, more macho .30 and .40 magnum loads.
Yada yada yada.
Assault rifle, for my purposes, are any of the "sexy" weapons, such as the Chinese SKS that were sold by the thousands a few years ago. Almost any semi-automatic qualifies, especially when it is clip fed, and rapidly reloaded.
If a man can't hunt with a single shot rifle (or a muzzle loader) then he's not a hunter. The first shot gets the deer, the second shot alerts the county that some fool who can't shoot has just scared a deer.
Trucks for hauling the kill home? That's cool. What about the ATV's and crap? The truck should be parked at a base camp somewhere, the hunting party goes into the woods on foot, and they pack the kill back to the truck. Two healthy men can pack out the biggest dear that I've ever seen.
There's something wrong with your story. To a lesser extent than an archer, a muzzle loader needs to get closer to the prey than people who hunt with high powered rifles. You don't hop on an ATV, and go racing through the forest, shooting anything that moves. You simply can't hunt like the idiots who come out from the city every year with their monster truck, cases of ammo, and cases of beer. Those people are full of machismo, and nothing else.
So, what the FUCK are you arguing with me for? You're black powder hunter, and you're arguing for vehicles running through the woods? Go back and read everything that has been written here.
Question: just how big are the woods "out here"? Which state are you in? If you are in the continental United States, there are only a very few places where you can get more than 20 miles from a paved road. Counting logging roads, I don't think that there is a forested area where you can get more than 5 miles from a roadway.
Are you capable of carrying 1/2 of a field dressed deer out of the woods? What about your hunting buddies?
Before you tell me that you hunt alone - the FIRST deer I ever took was dragged 3 1/2 miles to a roadway, and I only had assistance with the last 1/2 mile. At that time I was a 90 pound kid, and the deer weighed more than I did. (115 pounds, field dressed)
How macho are you? If you're half as macho as you sound in print, you don't need a damned truck out in the woods.
"I don't care at all what you think of my recreation style."
Telling obvious lies on a public forum is just plain STOOPID! If you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted. You wouldn't have wasted half an hour of your life trying to articulate your contempt for me. You wouldn't have wasted that time failing to prove how macho you are.
At least you didn't waste both of our time telling me that you and your sons are fucking LARD ASSES.
My family and I have laughed at your kind for decades. No real hunter takes a truck into the woods. A real hunter doesn't even need those overpowered assault rifles that half of you city boys carry into the woods. I've already stated that I can bring more food home with a sharp stick than most of the city boys we see tearing the woods up on their ATV's.
Call me a hippy, if you like. Calling me doesn't make me one - it only helps to show how morally bankrupt you are.
Uhhhh, first point? Assholes are human. Ever met a non-human asshole? I mean without being abducted by aliens for perverse sexual experiments....
And, third. I store my terrorist plans embedded in my niece's "My little Pony" videos. I got that tip at Al Queda's "Advanced Terrorism in the Digital Age" class. (Oh-kay, maybe I lie - I can't even speak Arabic, so, no, I didn't take the course)
"I mean it is 200 years old document, some of it is hardly relevant today."
I call bullshit. There is nothing in the constitution of the United States, or the amendments, that is irrelevant today. The amendment prohibiting the possession and consumption of alcohol is irrelevant, yes, BUT, there is a subsequent amendment repealing that amendment. It is a nice tidy document, which defines how government should be run. All other laws are supposed to fit within that guide.
That very relevant document is the litmus paper used to test all other laws in this nation.
It hasn't been necessary to change that constitution very many times, because the people who wrote it put a lot of work, and a lot of foresight into it.
I'll thank you not to declare my constitution as irrelevant. I rely on it for my freedoms of speech, my right to vote, my right to bear arms (yes, my PERSOANAL RIGHT to bear a firearm), my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That document is so relevant, that I am perfectly willing to go out and fight for it despite the fact that I'm an old bastard with sons in uniform.
Thank you, I'll step down off the ammo box now...... (an ammo box can be used for a soapbox or a ballot box, there's no need to keep three seperate boxes around)
Reasonable is a relative thing. With a fear mongering government, ala George Orwelle or any of a variety of other authors, reasonable searches will include your dirty underwear.
In the United States, reasonable should mean, "If the officer has probable cause to believe you are an imminent threat, he may search on the spot. If the officer has probably cause to believe that you might be a threat at some more distant point in time, then he should request a WARRANT to search your belongings."
I hope that clears things up.
While I don't think that it's right, the government might get away with treating non-citizens in a manner that presumes guilt. They cannot justify doing so with citizens, while claiming to uphold the constitution of the United States.
Lobbyists and people who write letters to their congressmen are entirely different creatures. I thank you for trying to attempt to muddy the water, though. For your edification, a lobbyist is generally either paid to go to the capital, or he has a high value personal interest in a bill, or set of bills. As opposed to the "little people" who are supposed to be represented by said congressman or senator. Democracy is the concept of "One citizen, one equal vote", contrasted against the concept of "The biggest campaign contribution wins".
Nice, thanks.
TBH, after I posted my remark above, I got to thinking a little. Yes, it's obvious that temp and pressure are related, but didn't really have any idea if it's a linear relation or what. Temps in that chart look a little higher than memory tells me - but again, I wasn't a boiler tech.
NABT (not a boiler technician) but I'd like to know how much pressure the thing generates. I've been around 600 pound and 1200 pound boilers, and learned some of the problems with the high pressure system. (basically, it was shit) I'm curious how much pressure this thing is using, and why and how. 400 degrees really means next to nothing, I don't know why they even put that little detail in the story.
By your definition, neoconservatives are hippies. They think that their ideas and opinions are more important than all the rest of the world. Why don't we go invade a couple more countries to prove how hip we are?
You're still a douche.
The douchebags are those who have to go out into the "wilderness" with their bikes and ATV's to tear up wild life habitat, all the while pouring their exhaust fumes into the world's air supply. Hippy? I'm not old enough. And, don't try with the liberal bleeding heart crap. Bleeding hearts won't kill a cute little bunny and eat it. Instead of eating squirrels, they feed peanut and stuff to the tree rats.
Think of the children. If you get them HIKING through the woods, instead of tearing the woods up on an ATV, the bearers of your DNA are more likely to live a long, healthy life.
Douche.
I can do that. My pointy stick has brought home more food than half the city freaks have ever brought home with a frigging assault rifle and 10 cases of ammunition.
"Camping" and "gasoline" are mutually exclusive. "Gasoline" and "mucking up the environment to prove how manly I am" go well together.
"using a house's concrete foundation to cool a pc" sort of gives it away. The word "sink" used in conjunction with "heat" implies no physical orientation, whatsoever. When a guy finally clicks on the link in TFA, the pictures show precisely what I describe. ;^)
"tow my trailer full of dirt bikes or quads when I go camping"
Try actually camping, sometime. Backpacks, tents, some food. Walk into the forest. Leave the gasoline at home.
Parent is insightful? Insightful, my ass. One just might draw a corollary that these aging, obese patients were lacking in neural material to start with, and that's how they got to BE so fat!!
Seriously - people who give a damn about their health and appearance, people who care enough to take care of their bodies, will incidentally be taking care of the tissue that houses their minds as well. By no means does that mean they are minding their minds. There are plenty of stupid, ignorant skinny people to put the lie to that idea! But, at least they have tended the physical aspects of the contents of their skulls.
Fat on the brain is at least as bad as fat on the heart!
"Overweight people aren't smart enough to care about their health"
I'm glad that we are in agreement.
The guy who posted TFA is not real bright. He had an extremely good idea, planned it out, and executed it magnificently. Then, he screwed it all up by posting about it on Slashdot. Self proclaimed architects and engineers have shot the idea full of holes. *sigh*
Wait! It's me who isn't real bright!! TFA was just trolling to see how many idiots would answer!!!
Damn, this gets confusing......
"Clearly the pipe is going to run vertically, protruding through the concrete in two places, and then into the Earth below the slab"
You and I have each made an assumption about the placement of the tubing. While you assume the tubing will be vertical, I assumed that the tubing will be bent below the surface of the concrete, so that it lies parallel to the ground. Either orientation would work, but bending the tubing is easier, because you don't have to dig a deep hole to accomodate the tubing. You can't drive it into the ground, after all - copper tubing is soft.