This is the first time I've been badly moderated. My comment follows in line with the opening statement with a followup confirmation of similar results from an alternate provider. To wit:
Maxxed out at 230k/s via my rogers@home cable connection. You GOTTA like that! 50mb came down the pike in 5 minutes.
Is an entirely legit and on-topic post in relation to:
I just tried it and the download was maxing out my DSL line, so I guess the Sandpiper guys are on the job.
The rest is just a comment about the pleasures of developing online connectivity. The clear observation then is that there's at least one moderator who needs to review the moderation guidelines.
I'd also like to point out that, alas, the Riva TNT driver and libGL provided from NVidia will *NOT* work with the demo as currently released. I'll keep hammering on it, but I'm up to video-lockout #3 here and rebooting is getting somewhat annoying.
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Back in the REAL day, I used to be able to hold a carrier while resetting my acoustic coupler (damn thing would wig out periodically) by whistling at the appropriate tone.
I became considerably happier when I got my first 300bps direct-connect modem. No command sets, no autodial or autoanswer or anything... just a big beige box with a serial port, a phone port, a switch for send/receive, and a BIG RED BUTTON.
Goddamn I feel old.
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jBASE appears to be a migration tool, basically a Pick environment, which is used as middleware in order to keep things running while they port or replace thier current ERP system.
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But because humans created computers, won't computers consider humans their gods? "Ultimately, I don't know if we'll make that decision or not," she says.
After all the programming I've done, and all the hassles I've had in getting the damn things to do even half of what I want them to do, I can say without reservation that computers do not revere us as Gods.
Any radio-based geek who's ever needed to zero-beat a tank circuit (and has access to a reasonably well stocked lab) will have encountered a grid-dip osc. They used to come in fairly handy tuning down SWR too, before the age of transmitters which could balance automagically.
Personally, I never found an enormous need for one. PLLs always seemed more useful in the stuff that I actually made, but then I never exercised my rights as an Advanced ticket holder and built myself a 1000 watt linear amp.;) In fact, I've not not keyed a CQ (or even used the local repeater) in quite a few years now... puters are just more fun. -shrug-
I don't it's so much that the RIAA is short-sighted as self-sighted. They're thinking of how much money it's going to cost them in lost record sales. I agree though, the people who would record and copy are probably not affluent enough to buy an 'atom-collection' of thier music. I personally think they're also reeling from the idea that people can just scoop the tracks they want from a CD and chuck the rest... how many times have you bought a disc which only had 2 decent songs on it? Ya gotta wonder how much they make off the 'single-driven buyer', ie: the customer who hears a couple singles on the K-RAD, the local top50, and thinks "COOL! I gotta have!"
FYI, radio stations are allowed to air an entire record (within certain guidelines). They're exempt from a lot of these rules, and for good reason... radio stations are the most effective advertising media for new music the RIAA and the individual recording studios have. I believe radio stations are also completely exempt from limitations on storage methods (.wav,.au,.mp3 or whatever) as long as they destroy those units within a 6 month period.
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The RIAA doesn't have a problem with mp3's per se, just what people are doing with them.
I'm working on a project right now to stream.mp3s while remaining in RIAA guidelines (quite a steaming pile of some nasty-ass legalese... I've been on the phone with them and my contractor's lawyer more than a few times trying to get it all straight).
What appears to be the RIAA's biggest worry (as evidenced by thier legal stuffies) is not that people have.mp3s, or even that they're broadcasting them over the net (or at a party or dance or whatever), but that their use is allowing people to bypass buying CDs. Take, for example, this snippit from the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (one of the documents one must adhere to for compliance), which states:
Sound recording performance complement. A Webcaster may not play in any three-hour period (1) more than three songs from a particular album, including no more than two consecutively, or (2) four songs by a particular artist or from a boxed set, including no more than three consecutively.
This is designed so that people can't simply set up a recording device of some sort and 'recreate' an album just by tuning in an pushing the button with the red dot. Other entries in there also seem geared towards non-copying things (some outright, others more hidden).
Under the circumstances, it seems pretty unlikely that DJs using mp3s in the field are going to be doing so for copying/trading purposes, so the RIAA probably wouldn't really give much of a care... and even if they did, the ability to police every kegger, rave and school dance is an impracticality of enormous proportions.
BTW - The site is at www.quicktracks.com. Please note that in its current incarnation we're *not* compliant. I'm working on that software right now, so the beastie will be up and down a bit over the next week or so as I poke at it.
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I guess using your defination all software that ever releases a service pack is beta then, right? Linux must never be complete since there are nearly constant kernel updates right? The hole 'beta' concept has been twisted it's virtually meaningless these days.
It is a matter of considerable widespread opinion that NT was released WAY before it was ready as is the way of Microsoft. In many ways YES... it's still in beta. And will likely continue to be for some time.
IMO, Kernel 2.2.x is also still somewhat beta, and that's an opinion that seems to be shared amongst some linux kernel mailing list occupants. I can understand Linus' motivations for moving it into the 'stable' category, but lets face it, when 2.2.0 hit the scene it needed a lot of work, and in some areas still does. Doesn't mean it isn't GOOD, just means it hasn't become a fixed (as in, never modified) code base. So no, linux is not, nor (hopefully!) will it ever be, complete.
The whole idea of alpha->beta->'complete' are completely arbitrary lines of demarkation anyways. It's hard to twist something where everyone has a different opinion. If you like NT and think it's not-beta, fine. You'd be in the minority among those 'in-the-know', but noone's gonna stop you.
so you're saying that a Linux kernel custom built for the Mindcraft tests would make a fair comparison? That's about what I expected from/. posters, it's not a fair test unless it's biased in your favor.
A fair comparison would take into account all variables, including TCO, support, et al. If you're ranting on about a purely TECHNICAL comparison, then yes, a custom kernel built to better our standing in the mindcraft survey would indeed be A Good Thing. There's obviously shortcomings in the realm of threaded TCP/IP and multiprocessor support, one of the areas NT shines and where, alas, Linux lags behind for now. Thus, when the kernel can hammer those stats, that area of the kernel will have to have been improved and I'll be able to reap the benefit.
And where did I say the tests weren't fair, trollboy? If anything, we should be thanking the mindcraft people for pointing out areas needing work. I fully expect solutions to these issues will be along in due course.
<sarcasm variety=oozing>"That's about what I expected from lame/. trolls. It's not a fair post unless it's biased in MS's favor."</sarcasm>
Shouldn't you be in school anyways? Run along before you get detention.
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With all due respects to parties involved, I should point out that the NT Kernel *is* in Beta (as is evidenced by the plethora of service packs released for it).
Alas though, I must concur that there *does* appear to be a performance advantage to NT under the criteria of the mindcraft survey. Perhaps Mr. Cox & Co. could give us a suite of testing tools as used by m.c. so that development can engage in earnest on those areas which the kernel lacks. Single-threading in the TCP/IP stack has been a long time issue AFAIK... could a TCP guts rewrite to be more SMP-friendly turn out to be the only difference between the Linux vs. NT performance issue?
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It'd be entirely too easy for this guy to go through Deja.com or some alternate news server with a different E-mail address and start railing away again under a different ID. How could this court (which is obviously not QUITE up to speed on the whole 'net thang) be able to track the guy down? Would it depend on the plaintiffs to provide information?
Tragic. Silly. And mostly ineffectual, IMO, if the guy wants to persist in being a net.kook.
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Hugging close relatives is one thing, greeting them with the pronouncement of "I KISS YOU!!!" and giving em a frenchie is just a SLIGHT bit different. (sarcasm)
I live in Canada. I like South Park... or, better yet (with all apologies to Matt and Trey), I like Tom Green! He's a good canajun kid dere...
I do personally believe that Canadians, by and large, are generally more culturally aware and adept, don't assume that we don't like dick and fart jokes as much as the next north american inhabitant.
I gotta see Dogma. Jay and Silent Bob rock your world.
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Years in the making. Trite, yes... perhaps even a little over-simplified, but it does get the point across in these, and countless other, situations where people are too dumb/tired/lazy/occupied to inform themselves and simply pass the task off to other people.
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ReiserFS seems to be the baby of SuSE... is it going to be ext3? (I was under the impression that ext3 wasn't sponsored by any corporate entity, part of the reason why Mr. T'so hasn't had time to round up btree inode code and such).
Can someone 'in the know' identify which jfs will be used? I don't really have time right now to dig through linux-kernel and extract the various business relationships from the participants emails;) It'd be useful to know ahead of time though.
Go go kernel boys. Fix that buffer problem so I can start using a JFS on those bigass 80gb software RAID devices.
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Zounds. The geeky sexual obsession around here is thick enough to make liquid testosterone leak from my monitor. Sounds like some peeps around here gotta get out from behind thier flat, flacid LCDs and find themselves a warm body to cozy up to.
C'mon you geeks, you got money, and everyone knows you got them big ol' brains, shake that thang and get you grrlfriends who'll alternately kick your ass on Quake, then make up for the insult with a little sweet love down by the fire!
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"Communist Nations" are typically NOT. They like to cloak themselves in the ideals of Communism to get initial support from people disgusted by rampant consumerism and the corruption of the state they rebelled against. By the time these poor folk realise that what they've got isn't an idealist communistic state, the (typically) totalitarian government has dug in, collected all the scattered armiments, executed as many political 'undesirables' they can under the guise of them being war criminals, and has already started to bleed the place dry... assuming that the nation doesn't have an 'enlightened despot' (of which none are currently in power in the world, that I'm aware of).
I wonder how many people die in the states each year for not having a socialist policy like 'universal health care'. There's many ways to mistreat a populace, don't fool yourself into thinking that a democratic government cares as much about the individual as you think it does. Remember, by the very nature of democracy, the desires of the big group outweigh the desires of individuals. Problem is though that people (big group plural) typically have a poor idea of what's best for them in the long-term... not that letting the government tell us what's what is any better, just a choice between two evils, with the lesser being left up to individuals' ideas of freedom, civic virtu, and trust levels in their government representatives.
I don't equate condemning communism with McCarthyism. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Here's point form in small words so you can grasp my point:
'Communist' countries aren't. They may call themselves Communist, and perhaps even base some of thier political/legal systems on those principles, but in practice they're about as close to the ideal of Communism as the American republicanism is to Utopia (ie: Not very!)
McCarthyist "Commie witchhunts" weren't. Most of the people who were dragged before the hearings had nothing to do with communism. They were persecuted either as part of a big pass-the-buck political finger pointing exercise, or (for the conspiracy minded) based on racism (such as julius & ethel rosenberg, the only two people put to death during the whole Red Scare). There's numerous texts, analyses and thesis of the McCarthy era, not to mention some decent movies including one pretty damn sweet made-for-tv style called Citizen Cohn (about Roy Cohn, McCarthy's right-hand who could have a substantial portion of the damage of the McCarthy era attributed directly to him). Read, watch, and learn.
Communism needs no apology. It's just an ideology. Countries that claim to be communist but that are really totalitarian in nature deserve no apologies, and you won't get any from me. I live in Vancouver, I know what happens to folk when they start complaining and the government gets uppity about it.
BTW - Health care is arguably in such a poor state as it is in the USA because of McCarthyism. Noone had the balls to make required social reforms for risk of being labelled 'a commie', and knowing the resistance they'd encounter in the generally anti-communist/anti-socialist attitude environment during the post WW2 years... an attitude which appears to continue to this day in some form or the other, given how many people STILL rail against such basic humanitarian ideas like giving more money to schools, helping poor people out with better medical care, housing and job creation programs, yadda yadda yadda.
[This is getting increasingly off-topic]
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I smell another AnonCow who hasn't been paying attention.
China is built around communist ideas, and considers itself (as does most everyone else) a communist state ie: a 'Peoples Republic'. In reality, it's barely communist in its actions... more like a despotic police state which is unsucessfully trying to hold back encroaching consumerism. Socialism, however, is alive (and well? depends on who you ask) in Canada, Norway, France and a whack of other places. Even the US has its socialist leanings (FDR's welfare state, for example). I think it was FDR. Wasn't it?
McCarthyism has *not* past. "Commie" is such an ingrained word in the psyche of baby-boomer and Gen-X american residents that it'll take another 2 generations before the intolerance has finally worn off, mostly based on the death of those individuals! If you think McCarthyism is dead, just take a read at some of the posts on this very same forum, which is supposed to have a higher average IQ than Joeseph Guntotin Merican. Ask your daddy what his opinion on 'Commies' is, and see what kind of rederick is spewed. Ask your grandaddy, assuming he didn't die in Korea or something fighting the... now, what nation was that again? I forget...
Personally, I've never found a problem with the idea of communist or socialist concepts, and thus have no need to 'get over' anything. I'm lucky enough to be a relatively young Canadian born citizen which never had to deal with a national stigma of lame congressional witch-hunts. My fear is that Linux will suffer stigma from those same intolerant individuals that made those congressional hearings a reality. (This is totally avoiding the conspiracy theorists' view that the hearings were mostly just pure anti-semitism cloaked in an 'acceptable' form for that day, of course)
Communism does seem very fair, very egalitarian, very nice in theory. Of course, what with people being greedy by nature (hard to defeat millenia of genetic imperative to cover your own ass) the implementation of tenable communist/socialist states have generally sucked hard ass. The fact that is HAS sucked in the past has cast a pall over anyone or anything associated with it, and I fear that it'll cast a pall over Linux too. I dearly hope to be proven false.
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It seems to me a very valid concern, and would certainly be a point raised by Sen. Guntotin Merican (rep. Texas, or whereever) who grew up in an atmosphere of fearing and loathing all things Communist should the US government decided on OSS inclusion as policy.
Just because it's describing a potentially silly, knee-jerk and predjudiced reaction doesn't mean the reaction itself won't happen. I can pretty much guarantee it will, as judging by how many Joe Everymans in the states spit on the sidewalk whenever the 'C Word' is mentioned.
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That's not what communism is about, but it IS admittedly what has resulted in the pisspoor implementations of communism as practiced by the soviets, chinese, cubans et alia.
The Linux development model is probably closer to true communist ideals (as laid down by Marx and co.) than anything else I can think of in this world.
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I don't see this as being a good thing for Linux in certain sectors.
There's a lot of people out there who think (sometimes unfairly) that communism is the Worst Possible Thing® on the planet. The last thing we need is to be pidgeonholed, as a community, as communists to the last code pig and riot grrl... particularly in this point in time where Linux is getting real momentum and the possibility of substantial numbers of people making a decent living off of linux solutions is reaching a much wider population.
While I applaud the Chinese government for making what I personally feel as The Right Choice (IMO, no government anywhere should be tied to any one company for any one service or product, no matter how big the company is), I think the timing could have been a bit better (like, say, a year from now).
I wonder if France is getting any closer to OSS OSes as standard. Wouldn't it be nice if Canada and the US did something similar.
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Maxxed out at 230k/s via my rogers@home cable connection. You GOTTA like that! 50mb came down the pike in 5 minutes.
Is an entirely legit and on-topic post in relation to:
The rest is just a comment about the pleasures of developing online connectivity. The clear observation then is that there's at least one moderator who needs to review the moderation guidelines.I'd also like to point out that, alas, the Riva TNT driver and libGL provided from NVidia will *NOT* work with the demo as currently released. I'll keep hammering on it, but I'm up to video-lockout #3 here and rebooting is getting somewhat annoying.
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Back in the REAL day, I used to be able to hold a carrier while resetting my acoustic coupler (damn thing would wig out periodically) by whistling at the appropriate tone.
I became considerably happier when I got my first 300bps direct-connect modem. No command sets, no autodial or autoanswer or anything... just a big beige box with a serial port, a phone port, a switch for send/receive, and a BIG RED BUTTON.
Goddamn I feel old.
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Now there was a frood who really knew where his towel was. Probably wasn't fully up on where his ritalin was though. ;)
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50mb came down the pike in 5 minutes. Pshew... long way from the bad ol' days of:
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jBASE appears to be a migration tool, basically a Pick environment, which is used as middleware in order to keep things running while they port or replace thier current ERP system.
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After all the programming I've done, and all the hassles I've had in getting the damn things to do even half of what I want them to do, I can say without reservation that computers do not revere us as Gods.
They sure make me wanna use the Stark Fist of Removal© on 'em sometimes.
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Personally, I never found an enormous need for one. PLLs always seemed more useful in the stuff that I actually made, but then I never exercised my rights as an Advanced ticket holder and built myself a 1000 watt linear amp. ;) In fact, I've not not keyed a CQ (or even used the local repeater) in quite a few years now... puters are just more fun. -shrug-
BTW - For the sub-ubergeeks wondering wtf a griddip is, here's an ancient and venerable example from the Acme of the Yesteryear Handygeek©, Heathkit.
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FYI, radio stations are allowed to air an entire record (within certain guidelines). They're exempt from a lot of these rules, and for good reason... radio stations are the most effective advertising media for new music the RIAA and the individual recording studios have. I believe radio stations are also completely exempt from limitations on storage methods (.wav, .au, .mp3 or whatever) as long as they destroy those units within a 6 month period.
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I'm working on a project right now to stream .mp3s while remaining in RIAA guidelines (quite a steaming pile of some nasty-ass legalese... I've been on the phone with them and my contractor's lawyer more than a few times trying to get it all straight).
What appears to be the RIAA's biggest worry (as evidenced by thier legal stuffies) is not that people have .mp3s, or even that they're broadcasting them over the net (or at a party or dance or whatever), but that their use is allowing people to bypass buying CDs. Take, for example, this snippit from the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (one of the documents one must adhere to for compliance), which states:
This is designed so that people can't simply set up a recording device of some sort and 'recreate' an album just by tuning in an pushing the button with the red dot. Other entries in there also seem geared towards non-copying things (some outright, others more hidden).
Under the circumstances, it seems pretty unlikely that DJs using mp3s in the field are going to be doing so for copying/trading purposes, so the RIAA probably wouldn't really give much of a care... and even if they did, the ability to police every kegger, rave and school dance is an impracticality of enormous proportions.
BTW - The site is at www.quicktracks.com. Please note that in its current incarnation we're *not* compliant. I'm working on that software right now, so the beastie will be up and down a bit over the next week or so as I poke at it.
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I guess using your defination all software that ever releases a service pack is beta then, right? Linux must never be complete since there are nearly constant kernel updates right? The hole 'beta' concept has been twisted it's virtually meaningless these days.
It is a matter of considerable widespread opinion that NT was released WAY before it was ready as is the way of Microsoft. In many ways YES... it's still in beta. And will likely continue to be for some time.
IMO, Kernel 2.2.x is also still somewhat beta, and that's an opinion that seems to be shared amongst some linux kernel mailing list occupants. I can understand Linus' motivations for moving it into the 'stable' category, but lets face it, when 2.2.0 hit the scene it needed a lot of work, and in some areas still does. Doesn't mean it isn't GOOD, just means it hasn't become a fixed (as in, never modified) code base. So no, linux is not, nor (hopefully!) will it ever be, complete.
The whole idea of alpha->beta->'complete' are completely arbitrary lines of demarkation anyways. It's hard to twist something where everyone has a different opinion. If you like NT and think it's not-beta, fine. You'd be in the minority among those 'in-the-know', but noone's gonna stop you.
so you're saying that a Linux kernel custom built for the Mindcraft tests would make a fair comparison? That's about what I expected from /. posters, it's not a fair test unless it's biased in your favor.
A fair comparison would take into account all variables, including TCO, support, et al. If you're ranting on about a purely TECHNICAL comparison, then yes, a custom kernel built to better our standing in the mindcraft survey would indeed be A Good Thing. There's obviously shortcomings in the realm of threaded TCP/IP and multiprocessor support, one of the areas NT shines and where, alas, Linux lags behind for now. Thus, when the kernel can hammer those stats, that area of the kernel will have to have been improved and I'll be able to reap the benefit.
And where did I say the tests weren't fair, trollboy? If anything, we should be thanking the mindcraft people for pointing out areas needing work. I fully expect solutions to these issues will be along in due course.
<sarcasm variety=oozing>"That's about what I expected from lame /. trolls. It's not a fair post unless it's biased in MS's favor."</sarcasm>
Shouldn't you be in school anyways? Run along before you get detention.
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250,000DM ~ $132,000US
250,000DM ~ $192,750CDN
These values dance around a fair bit (naturally) but are more-or-less accurate at time of this writing. Conversions are courtesy of The Universal Currency Converter (don't do transcontinental net.biz without it!)
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Alas though, I must concur that there *does* appear to be a performance advantage to NT under the criteria of the mindcraft survey. Perhaps Mr. Cox & Co. could give us a suite of testing tools as used by m.c. so that development can engage in earnest on those areas which the kernel lacks. Single-threading in the TCP/IP stack has been a long time issue AFAIK... could a TCP guts rewrite to be more SMP-friendly turn out to be the only difference between the Linux vs. NT performance issue?
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Tragic. Silly. And mostly ineffectual, IMO, if the guy wants to persist in being a net.kook.
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I live in Canada. I like South Park... or, better yet (with all apologies to Matt and Trey), I like Tom Green! He's a good canajun kid dere...
I do personally believe that Canadians, by and large, are generally more culturally aware and adept, don't assume that we don't like dick and fart jokes as much as the next north american inhabitant.
I gotta see Dogma. Jay and Silent Bob rock your world.
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"I like s-s-s-s-s-s-sex!... I kiss you!"
*ROFL* Gotta love the half-techno/half-country'n'western groove ;)
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Years in the making. Trite, yes... perhaps even a little over-simplified, but it does get the point across in these, and countless other, situations where people are too dumb/tired/lazy/occupied to inform themselves and simply pass the task off to other people.
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Can someone 'in the know' identify which jfs will be used? I don't really have time right now to dig through linux-kernel and extract the various business relationships from the participants emails ;) It'd be useful to know ahead of time though.
Go go kernel boys. Fix that buffer problem so I can start using a JFS on those bigass 80gb software RAID devices.
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C'mon you geeks, you got money, and everyone knows you got them big ol' brains, shake that thang and get you grrlfriends who'll alternately kick your ass on Quake, then make up for the insult with a little sweet love down by the fire!
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That about sums it up.
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I wonder how many people die in the states each year for not having a socialist policy like 'universal health care'. There's many ways to mistreat a populace, don't fool yourself into thinking that a democratic government cares as much about the individual as you think it does. Remember, by the very nature of democracy, the desires of the big group outweigh the desires of individuals. Problem is though that people (big group plural) typically have a poor idea of what's best for them in the long-term... not that letting the government tell us what's what is any better, just a choice between two evils, with the lesser being left up to individuals' ideas of freedom, civic virtu, and trust levels in their government representatives.
I don't equate condemning communism with McCarthyism. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Here's point form in small words so you can grasp my point:
- 'Communist' countries aren't. They may call themselves Communist, and perhaps even base some of thier political/legal systems on those principles, but in practice they're about as close to the ideal of Communism as the American republicanism is to Utopia (ie: Not very!)
- McCarthyist "Commie witchhunts" weren't. Most of the people who were dragged before the hearings had nothing to do with communism. They were persecuted either as part of a big pass-the-buck political finger pointing exercise, or (for the conspiracy minded) based on racism (such as julius & ethel rosenberg, the only two people put to death during the whole Red Scare). There's numerous texts, analyses and thesis of the McCarthy era, not to mention some decent movies including one pretty damn sweet made-for-tv style called Citizen Cohn (about Roy Cohn, McCarthy's right-hand who could have a substantial portion of the damage of the McCarthy era attributed directly to him). Read, watch, and learn.
- Communism needs no apology. It's just an ideology. Countries that claim to be communist but that are really totalitarian in nature deserve no apologies, and you won't get any from me. I live in Vancouver, I know what happens to folk when they start complaining and the government gets uppity about it.
BTW - Health care is arguably in such a poor state as it is in the USA because of McCarthyism. Noone had the balls to make required social reforms for risk of being labelled 'a commie', and knowing the resistance they'd encounter in the generally anti-communist/anti-socialist attitude environment during the post WW2 years... an attitude which appears to continue to this day in some form or the other, given how many people STILL rail against such basic humanitarian ideas like giving more money to schools, helping poor people out with better medical care, housing and job creation programs, yadda yadda yadda.[This is getting increasingly off-topic]
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I smell another AnonCow who hasn't been paying attention.
China is built around communist ideas, and considers itself (as does most everyone else) a communist state ie: a 'Peoples Republic'. In reality, it's barely communist in its actions... more like a despotic police state which is unsucessfully trying to hold back encroaching consumerism. Socialism, however, is alive (and well? depends on who you ask) in Canada, Norway, France and a whack of other places. Even the US has its socialist leanings (FDR's welfare state, for example). I think it was FDR. Wasn't it?
McCarthyism has *not* past. "Commie" is such an ingrained word in the psyche of baby-boomer and Gen-X american residents that it'll take another 2 generations before the intolerance has finally worn off, mostly based on the death of those individuals! If you think McCarthyism is dead, just take a read at some of the posts on this very same forum, which is supposed to have a higher average IQ than Joeseph Guntotin Merican. Ask your daddy what his opinion on 'Commies' is, and see what kind of rederick is spewed. Ask your grandaddy, assuming he didn't die in Korea or something fighting the... now, what nation was that again? I forget...
Personally, I've never found a problem with the idea of communist or socialist concepts, and thus have no need to 'get over' anything. I'm lucky enough to be a relatively young Canadian born citizen which never had to deal with a national stigma of lame congressional witch-hunts. My fear is that Linux will suffer stigma from those same intolerant individuals that made those congressional hearings a reality. (This is totally avoiding the conspiracy theorists' view that the hearings were mostly just pure anti-semitism cloaked in an 'acceptable' form for that day, of course)
Communism does seem very fair, very egalitarian, very nice in theory. Of course, what with people being greedy by nature (hard to defeat millenia of genetic imperative to cover your own ass) the implementation of tenable communist/socialist states have generally sucked hard ass. The fact that is HAS sucked in the past has cast a pall over anyone or anything associated with it, and I fear that it'll cast a pall over Linux too. I dearly hope to be proven false.
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Just because it's describing a potentially silly, knee-jerk and predjudiced reaction doesn't mean the reaction itself won't happen. I can pretty much guarantee it will, as judging by how many Joe Everymans in the states spit on the sidewalk whenever the 'C Word' is mentioned.
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The Linux development model is probably closer to true communist ideals (as laid down by Marx and co.) than anything else I can think of in this world.
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There's a lot of people out there who think (sometimes unfairly) that communism is the Worst Possible Thing® on the planet. The last thing we need is to be pidgeonholed, as a community, as communists to the last code pig and riot grrl... particularly in this point in time where Linux is getting real momentum and the possibility of substantial numbers of people making a decent living off of linux solutions is reaching a much wider population.
While I applaud the Chinese government for making what I personally feel as The Right Choice (IMO, no government anywhere should be tied to any one company for any one service or product, no matter how big the company is), I think the timing could have been a bit better (like, say, a year from now).
I wonder if France is getting any closer to OSS OSes as standard. Wouldn't it be nice if Canada and the US did something similar.
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