You should be able to get Linux to boot close to the 10 second mark if you strip out everything that you don't need in the kernel. And if you mount your drives read only you can just shut it down like you suggested.
Of course if you're going to put in a nice colour LCD screen you may want to use Be for the GUI, or you could create your own GUI for Linux. But you may want to stick to a system that will play DVD's (and other movie formats) to make use of that LCD screen.
One thing that would be a neat hack would be to design an X interface to run the system and then you could put a RJ-45 port on the outside of the car (maybe where you put gas in or something) and you could plug a laptop in to control the system remotely over X. This would be useful for stereo competitions where it's just too darn loud to be in the car.
And for those of you with wireless internet connectivity, you could do masquarding with the box, then throw bluetooth into the mix and all your handheld devices could use the net connection from within the car.
With enough money the possibilities are endless. I just wish I had that money to spend right now!
Have you considered Linux from Scratch? Basically what it is, is building Linux from the ground up. This would allow you to add the software that you need, and only the software you need. It will also allow you to configure everything yourself in the exact way you want it which should increase security somewhat since you will know exactly what you have setup, and not what someone else has done for you.
I think this project is well suited for tailor made copies of Linux, like you would like to have. Of course it will take more time to start from scratch but I feel in your situation it would be worth the extra effort. Good luck with your undertaking.
(Except for "You've Got Mail" but that movie doesn't count)
Except at the beginning of the movie where they introduce the charaters or something, I forget exactly what was going on. They were trying to go for the Windows look, but the pointer looked like an X pointer too me, it was red, probably from an IRIX machine.
This reminds me of a movie I watched recently (forget the title). Anyway, they tried to give the look of windows on thier system, it didn't quite look like it, but the thing that really gave it away that it wasn't windows was the X pointer.
In Goldeneye 007 for the N64 the computer guy logs into the systems as root, this is no Windows machine, I guess you could create a root account in windows, but we'll assume they didn't. I don't know if there is anything like this in the movie.
I always wonder when they say they ban servers. Would a server not really be an program that listens on any given port? Therefore Napster, ICQ (and other instant messangers), etc. all are servers, but they aren't band as far as I know.
Those programs however are programs used by "regular" users and if they were banned there would be an outcry.
I don't see why one can't run say ftp to retrieve thier own files, I do this (it's allowed on my service) and I can gain access anywhere with a net connection to my files.
I don't think it's that new music sucks, I think it's more that mainstream music sucks. There is a lot of good music out there that no one has ever heard because it isn't on the radio.
Today's mainstream music is driven by the media and it is all just a marketing ploy to sell CD's and merchandise, atleast that's the way I see it. I mean does anyone really like oh say the Backstreet Boys? Or is it because that's all that we hear so people just start to think they like it?
Maybe people honestly do like that music, but I for one can't stand it, and I have the feeling most people on here have similar opinions.
Hotmail isn't all bad, I have an address that dates the pre-Microsoft days of Hotmail and I think I've recieved only once piece of spam ever in that mailbox. I hope it stays that way too, but I only use the account for signing up for websites that require an e-mail address anyway.
I can already hear the traffic coming along on my ethernet network just by tuning my radio right. It sounds like a bunch of weird beeps. Of course this doesn't tell me what kind of traffic it is but I can tell when there is traffic.
I would recommend you find yourself a good LCD screen, although they are expensive they are worth it. I can use one for hours with no eyestrain problems at all, but as soon as I try to use a CRT monitor my eyes start to bother me.
If you are stuck with a CRT monitor then adjusting refresh rate and brightness levels will probably help somewhat.
From what I understand IrDA runs at a different frequency then a remote control uses and not every IrDA port can run at the frequencies you'd want.
I've tried two different laptops with no success, one would pick up a remote signal but all of the signals were the same no matter what button was pressed and I've had no luck with my new laptop (but I haven't tried real hard). Another option you could look into is building your own IR port, I've seen the specs around the net and all it does is connect to your serial port.
I think this is a good idea and it would be nice the other way to what the poster suggested. If you could send a remote signal to your computer you could control your mp3 player, or even anything else.
This is sort of the attitude Bell Sympatico has, but they only give you 1mb/s down and 128k/s up... But they don't care if you run web servers or what have you, the only thing they say about it is don't ask them for help, but that just seems obvious.
Too bad they rely on PPPoE and the xfer rates are a bit slower than what I would like (especially the upstream). But otherwise they aren't too bad.
With Sympatico you can have as many as you want (In theory). Since Sympatico uses PPPoE - I wish they didn't, but anyway - all you have to do is run a PPPoE client on every computer and they all obtain thier own IP. There is four computers at my place and they all have thier own IP. I would assume by adding more machines it would behave the same way.
I don't know if this is how it is suppost to work, I somehow doubt it. But I'm not complaining as long as it does. Service is $40/month by the way. Now if they'd only get rid of the 128k upstream cap, I'd be even more happy!
Let's not forget the light-saber sword controller that someone created that used a camera. It was posted a while back on/.
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There just aren't enough of these machine in the hands of free OS developers.
Maybe you would be willing to give some of these machines away to open source developers? I mean unless you're gonna pay the $800 then they'll be useless to you anyway. I'm sure someone out there would be willing to undergo this project?
Nice to hear there are more options for rural folk. Look already has two-way internet, with speeds comparable to DSL atleast up here in Canada so they may be the first satellite service with two-way internet but they aren't the first wireless one, I don't know if a similar service is avaliable anywhere else.
I believe you are probably refering to empeg. An in-dash car MP3 player that runs Linux. It uses the StrongARM processor and because it is software controlled it could be updated to run Ogg.
Too bad the price on these things are way too high!
How about the fact that you can download an entire CD over napster faster than you can get to a store? Well atleast I can, of course they'd better ensure CD (or higher quality) as well as songs better be what they say they are. Also do I have to serve the songs to other users? It's one thing to share your collection as a good dead, but if I have to pay to share my collection I think they system just breaks down.
I know I wont pay to use Napster though. Besides there will be a better system in a month or two anyway!
then we'll have to sue Microsoft for creating MSIE because it allows me to get files from all over the internet, and not just mp3's!
Actually the Windows Start > Find > Files or Folders... is even worse than MSIE because I can now search my LAN (or any other computer I have acceess to via smb) for mp3s! This feature sounds familiar, oh wait, it's called Napster. You are right, we'd better shut down Microsoft RIGHT NOW!
I always thought Hydrogen was the way to go. BMW has a hyrdogen engine (not a hydrogen-electric motor but a real engine just like a gas one but it burns hydrogen instead) but they won't make it until gas stations start selling hydrogen. So lets start selling hydrogen, forget all of this gasoline non sense, save the oil for lubricating the parts of the car! Another nice thing about burning hydrogen for you environmentalists out there is that it's by-product is plain old water.
This is a good idea, but I don't think practical in all PC-related situations. Think new hardware: what happens when the Voodoo X's come out? Will this CD support them? What if NVidia releases new enhanced drivers for TNT2. How do you get these new drivers on your game CD's?
Drivers on the Internet?
Someone could have a database of all the drivers and the OS would merely grab the drivers at run-time. Of corse the problem here is that you need an internet connection, and you need drivers to get that internet connection. If you do something like a Linux NFS install boot CD then you would have networking going which is a good thing anyway for network games.
I thought Intel already have speedstep PIII's? I have a PIII 700 in my notebook that is speedstep (it slows down to 550mhz on battery). How are these new chips any different?
What will happen in a few years when we have the technology to stream all media over the internet (ie. TV, Phone, Radio, etc.)? We have the power to use all those mediums however they suck up large amounts of bandwidth. Now in the future what if this "casual" user decides he wants his TV to be recieved over the internet rather than traditional means. It's going to cost him an arm and a leg to stream the TV over the net if he is paying per megabyte!
Personally I think such a system might be cheaper for the regular user in the short term, but when all things digital are converged then I think the system will break down.
Maybe this is just a plot by the RIAA to stop people from downloading MP3's? They might be thinking they can get a percentage of all internet traffic costs sort of like they get a percentage of blank media in Canada? Maybe I should be quiet before they get some ideas.
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You should be able to get Linux to boot close to the 10 second mark if you strip out everything that you don't need in the kernel. And if you mount your drives read only you can just shut it down like you suggested.
Of course if you're going to put in a nice colour LCD screen you may want to use Be for the GUI, or you could create your own GUI for Linux. But you may want to stick to a system that will play DVD's (and other movie formats) to make use of that LCD screen.
One thing that would be a neat hack would be to design an X interface to run the system and then you could put a RJ-45 port on the outside of the car (maybe where you put gas in or something) and you could plug a laptop in to control the system remotely over X. This would be useful for stereo competitions where it's just too darn loud to be in the car.
And for those of you with wireless internet connectivity, you could do masquarding with the box, then throw bluetooth into the mix and all your handheld devices could use the net connection from within the car.
With enough money the possibilities are endless. I just wish I had that money to spend right now!
Have you considered Linux from Scratch? Basically what it is, is building Linux from the ground up. This would allow you to add the software that you need, and only the software you need. It will also allow you to configure everything yourself in the exact way you want it which should increase security somewhat since you will know exactly what you have setup, and not what someone else has done for you.
I think this project is well suited for tailor made copies of Linux, like you would like to have. Of course it will take more time to start from scratch but I feel in your situation it would be worth the extra effort. Good luck with your undertaking.
(Except for "You've Got Mail" but that movie doesn't count)
Except at the beginning of the movie where they introduce the charaters or something, I forget exactly what was going on. They were trying to go for the Windows look, but the pointer looked like an X pointer too me, it was red, probably from an IRIX machine.
This reminds me of a movie I watched recently (forget the title). Anyway, they tried to give the look of windows on thier system, it didn't quite look like it, but the thing that really gave it away that it wasn't windows was the X pointer.
In Goldeneye 007 for the N64 the computer guy logs into the systems as root, this is no Windows machine, I guess you could create a root account in windows, but we'll assume they didn't. I don't know if there is anything like this in the movie.
I always wonder when they say they ban servers. Would a server not really be an program that listens on any given port? Therefore Napster, ICQ (and other instant messangers), etc. all are servers, but they aren't band as far as I know. Those programs however are programs used by "regular" users and if they were banned there would be an outcry.
I don't see why one can't run say ftp to retrieve thier own files, I do this (it's allowed on my service) and I can gain access anywhere with a net connection to my files.
I don't think it's that new music sucks, I think it's more that mainstream music sucks. There is a lot of good music out there that no one has ever heard because it isn't on the radio.
Today's mainstream music is driven by the media and it is all just a marketing ploy to sell CD's and merchandise, atleast that's the way I see it. I mean does anyone really like oh say the Backstreet Boys? Or is it because that's all that we hear so people just start to think they like it?
Maybe people honestly do like that music, but I for one can't stand it, and I have the feeling most people on here have similar opinions.
Hotmail isn't all bad, I have an address that dates the pre-Microsoft days of Hotmail and I think I've recieved only once piece of spam ever in that mailbox. I hope it stays that way too, but I only use the account for signing up for websites that require an e-mail address anyway.
I can already hear the traffic coming along on my ethernet network just by tuning my radio right. It sounds like a bunch of weird beeps. Of course this doesn't tell me what kind of traffic it is but I can tell when there is traffic.
I would recommend you find yourself a good LCD screen, although they are expensive they are worth it. I can use one for hours with no eyestrain problems at all, but as soon as I try to use a CRT monitor my eyes start to bother me.
If you are stuck with a CRT monitor then adjusting refresh rate and brightness levels will probably help somewhat.
From what I understand IrDA runs at a different frequency then a remote control uses and not every IrDA port can run at the frequencies you'd want.
I've tried two different laptops with no success, one would pick up a remote signal but all of the signals were the same no matter what button was pressed and I've had no luck with my new laptop (but I haven't tried real hard). Another option you could look into is building your own IR port, I've seen the specs around the net and all it does is connect to your serial port.
I think this is a good idea and it would be nice the other way to what the poster suggested. If you could send a remote signal to your computer you could control your mp3 player, or even anything else.
The site you are refering to is Deja Vu (www.dejavu.org)
This is sort of the attitude Bell Sympatico has, but they only give you 1mb/s down and 128k/s up... But they don't care if you run web servers or what have you, the only thing they say about it is don't ask them for help, but that just seems obvious.
Too bad they rely on PPPoE and the xfer rates are a bit slower than what I would like (especially the upstream). But otherwise they aren't too bad.
With Sympatico you can have as many as you want (In theory). Since Sympatico uses PPPoE - I wish they didn't, but anyway - all you have to do is run a PPPoE client on every computer and they all obtain thier own IP. There is four computers at my place and they all have thier own IP. I would assume by adding more machines it would behave the same way.
I don't know if this is how it is suppost to work, I somehow doubt it. But I'm not complaining as long as it does. Service is $40/month by the way. Now if they'd only get rid of the 128k upstream cap, I'd be even more happy!
Let's not forget the light-saber sword controller that someone created that used a camera. It was posted a while back on /.
There just aren't enough of these machine in the hands of free OS developers.
Maybe you would be willing to give some of these machines away to open source developers? I mean unless you're gonna pay the $800 then they'll be useless to you anyway. I'm sure someone out there would be willing to undergo this project?
Nice to hear there are more options for rural folk. Look already has two-way internet, with speeds comparable to DSL atleast up here in Canada so they may be the first satellite service with two-way internet but they aren't the first wireless one, I don't know if a similar service is avaliable anywhere else.
Now if I could only get this working in my car!
I believe you are probably refering to empeg. An in-dash car MP3 player that runs Linux. It uses the StrongARM processor and because it is software controlled it could be updated to run Ogg.
Too bad the price on these things are way too high!
Why pay Napster if I can just buy music CDs.
How about the fact that you can download an entire CD over napster faster than you can get to a store? Well atleast I can, of course they'd better ensure CD (or higher quality) as well as songs better be what they say they are. Also do I have to serve the songs to other users? It's one thing to share your collection as a good dead, but if I have to pay to share my collection I think they system just breaks down.
I know I wont pay to use Napster though. Besides there will be a better system in a month or two anyway!
You should be able to turn the water back into hydrogen to be used again and again. Seems like the perfect system. There must be a catch?
then we'll have to sue Microsoft for creating MSIE because it allows me to get files from all over the internet, and not just mp3's!
Actually the Windows Start > Find > Files or Folders... is even worse than MSIE because I can now search my LAN (or any other computer I have acceess to via smb) for mp3s! This feature sounds familiar, oh wait, it's called Napster. You are right, we'd better shut down Microsoft RIGHT NOW!
I always thought Hydrogen was the way to go. BMW has a hyrdogen engine (not a hydrogen-electric motor but a real engine just like a gas one but it burns hydrogen instead) but they won't make it until gas stations start selling hydrogen. So lets start selling hydrogen, forget all of this gasoline non sense, save the oil for lubricating the parts of the car! Another nice thing about burning hydrogen for you environmentalists out there is that it's by-product is plain old water.
This is a good idea, but I don't think practical in all PC-related situations. Think new hardware: what happens when the Voodoo X's come out? Will this CD support them? What if NVidia releases new enhanced drivers for TNT2. How do you get these new drivers on your game CD's?
Drivers on the Internet?
Someone could have a database of all the drivers and the OS would merely grab the drivers at run-time. Of corse the problem here is that you need an internet connection, and you need drivers to get that internet connection. If you do something like a Linux NFS install boot CD then you would have networking going which is a good thing anyway for network games.
I thought Intel already have speedstep PIII's? I have a PIII 700 in my notebook that is speedstep (it slows down to 550mhz on battery). How are these new chips any different?
What will happen in a few years when we have the technology to stream all media over the internet (ie. TV, Phone, Radio, etc.)? We have the power to use all those mediums however they suck up large amounts of bandwidth. Now in the future what if this "casual" user decides he wants his TV to be recieved over the internet rather than traditional means. It's going to cost him an arm and a leg to stream the TV over the net if he is paying per megabyte!
Personally I think such a system might be cheaper for the regular user in the short term, but when all things digital are converged then I think the system will break down.
Maybe this is just a plot by the RIAA to stop people from downloading MP3's? They might be thinking they can get a percentage of all internet traffic costs sort of like they get a percentage of blank media in Canada? Maybe I should be quiet before they get some ideas.