generally speaking... wouldn't you send your http information over tcp/ip... soooo... why would you go through all the trouble of trying to get you tcp/ip data into an http data which is going over tcp/ip... to me, this just sounds like a complicated solution to a simple problem. It's probably going to cause more problems in the process as well. And man... how big is the stack going to be when everything is done too?
Is it a truely distributed system or is it just a hack to look like one while all the while running on one machine, with one platform, with nothing being really distributed in any way?
hehe, I was just going to comment... there really isn't a whole lot to look at.
One thing that I've seen happening more often for these main-frame and mini-computer operating systems is that companies are using GUI wrappers for their client machine that interpret the data from the terminal emulation program. Sheds a whole new light on high-end computing.
You have the inherent stability of the main-frame/mini-computer operating system, along with ease of use from a GUI.
But, like who could ever please a critic. It's always sub par, the actors stink, or the plot had no meaning. Ever think about just watching and enjoying a movie rather than analysing it. You might be surprised.
Computer science is the science of computer and technology. Other science like social science, quantum science, political science are totally different. Just because a poly-sci proffessor uses his computer to type up a term paper does make him part of the computer science realm.
I'm not sure who my cale provider is anymore. I signed up under Mediaone Road Runner. Then it was taken over. And I think it's now AT&T digital, or something like that. And, for some strange reason I keep thinking there is and AOL connection to my cable company somehow. Not sure though.
At least I haven't been screwed. And I can honestly say I have never had any beefs with my cable provider.
let's see...
8 gigs here...
10 gigs there...
at 100 Mbps...
that's, 18 gigs...
or 144 gigabits...
144 gigabits divided by 100 megabits per second...
hmm...
24 minutes...
I think I need some bigger drives!
39.95 a month.
i've been able to squeeze 1.550 Mbps download and 350 Kbps upload out of it. Add file compression and whoa!!! I actually like the staggered upload and download values. That means I can be serving 350 Kbps in files and leeching with the reaming bandwidth. Gotta love it.
Besides, the phone company didn't seem to want my business with DSL. So I said screw them.
Game Gear! That's what I was thinking of. I bet if I rummaged through the drawers around here I might actually find it. Along with some games. Hmm... the search is on!
I believe what I'm thinking about was the Sega Genesis. I might be wrong on the name. It was portable, horizontally aligned and in color, and that was nearly a decade ago. I remeber playing Sonic on it. I can't image Game boys new version to be any more popular than Sega's was. The part that gets me is why Nintendo is calling it 'Advanced' when it is anything but that. Goofy marketing people.
"I want RH to make a buck too, but this seems like a pretty crappy way to do it."
Of course it seems crappy to you. If it affects a user in any way that involves touching someones pocket book, then it must be crappy. Everyone likes everything, just as long as it is free. I'm sure there are many people out there who run webservers and ftp servers who know just how expensive bandwidth can be. Everyone wants Red Hat to be profitable. But no one, at least the majority here, wants to pay for anything related to it. It's always, "oh, the other guy will pay for it." It seems that a small minority of people are funding these projects and the rest are leaching off of it. (Gee, why does that sound familiar?)
I'm still looking for a company that has a working business model based on giving away products for free.
Nuclear baby! I was always against it untill I learned how the system worked in chemistry class. I had to hit myself over the head. What was I thinking.
It's been a while so I'm not brushed up my isotopes. But are there not various recycleable isotopes (plutionium. etc) that could be refined from the waste and used again? If my memory serves correct. European countries recycle the waste, but the US does not. Would this not help quite a bit in the waste department?
Anyways, I would honestly not mind having a nuclear reactor in 'my backyard.'
Well, in theory it is, Your connected everywhere you go. But, I have this bad picture of (no offense to the techno savy chicks out there, and to the few guys who are like this too) woman who are putting on make up and chatting on cell phones, while typing in an online chat room while zinging down the expressway weaving in and out of traffic. Yikes.
It might be beneficial to have such systems only activated when the vehicle is in (P)ark.
Where do banner ads go after they have been filtered? Digital Hell?
I prefer to filter them. Send them off into the ether. Sometimes I miss the flashing little buggers. But an hour on someone else machine rekindles my hate for them.
Now there is a new threat. Flash commercials, Aargh. It's going to be hard to filter just the flash movies and not the flash apps.
Sure it works, but not very efficiently. Mozilla has got to be the slowest rendering browser on the market. I'm running a 700mhz Athlon with 256MB ram, and I can tell a noticable slowness to how it renders and loads pages. My other machine, a pII 400mhz with IE5.5 render pages faster than my machine can. That shouldn't be.
I do give my kudos to the programmers though. Mozilla is just one of very few open source projects that actually works in the manner it was intended.
I stand by the my belief that 5% of open source software is good while the remaining 95% is crap, won't run, or isn't finished and never will be.
I think that this technolgy would be nice. But, I don't think that the quallity and the practical power of the printed circits would be what the user really wants. Power and performance wise.
However, this might be a great product for the do-it-yourself electronics guru. I would have a hay-day printing out my own circits and testing them. My hands are too shaky at times and soldering can be difficult. Most notably before the daily intake of caffeine. Trying to get those surface mount electronics on the board, man, those are hard to do!
There are times when the only thing you can do to increase performance is to overclock. Take PDA's for example. I have a Palm IIIx. Coolest thing since canned ham (not really). But anyways, it runs normally at 16mhz I believe. Through other individuals slick palm hacking. There is now software to overclock your palm pilots. My palm runs at a slick 29mhz. Through all the other optimizations it runs a ful 260% better than 'stock.' I've heard some people get their's all the way to 46mhz. Now that is smoking. As far as I know this is the only reliable way to increase the performance on your Palm Pilots.
I do agree in part. Some code is really written in a half assed manner. If optimized they could make better use of a slower machines processor. But there are many applications that need raw processing power. OLTP programs are some big ones that come to mind. When a client wants his data, he wants it now. Doesn't want to be waiting more than a few seconds. Sometimes you have to let that 3Ghz processor site idle 90% of the time just to keep your clients happy.
Another thing I've noticed is that with such high amounts of processing power, coders no longer pay as much attention to what they are using. They are all trying to develop apps that the customer wants in a quick manner.
High speed and highly optimized code, Now that's a combination.
I overclocked my Athlon and have had little problems. Sometimes it takes a second boot for it to power up. But nothing serious. My only concerns are heat and what it may affect other than just the processor. I fried a power supply once from an overheated condition from the processor. I'm only running moderatly faster than 'stock' 700mhz (7x100) to 800mhz (8x100) it seems to run reliable with only a single fan on my Athlon. Besides, I don't want to reduce the life of my processor by soaking it with heat.
Sure, you can find instances where that is true, but the 'vast' majority of corporate run software, will not just recompile on another piece of hardware. If it were that easy to do, legacy systems would become more scarce, as moving to a new platform would be easier.
You cannot just recompile PC software on a Minicomputer with out major code changes. You cannot recompile Minicomputer software on a Mainframe with out major code changes. For that matter, any combonations of the three. Not to mention all of the different harware platforms out there now. PDA's, cell phones, a massive embedded enteroge.
Being more specific, you could not just recompile the 'make' code on another machine with out tweaking the code.
Poke your head above your unix box and you we see the light. Unix based platforms are not the only hardware options.
"As things are now, it is pretty easy to develop software for new hardware platforms. Just write a cross-compiler on an existing platform, and then copy the binary to the new system."
No offense, but this person must have never had to move software from one hardware platform to another. If he had he would realize that it isn't easy. Anyone whose ever gone from a PC to a mini-computer to a mainframe knows that isn't the case. IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS! You don't just take your source code from one machine and recompile it on another machine. It's doesn't work that way in the real world. In the real world the differences between different hardware platforms can be immense.
Those out there who have worked in the corporate world and had experience with these big systems, I feel your pain.
I can't seem to find it anywhere in the docs. But will the new 2.4 stuff properly route IPSec and PPTP VPN traffic with having to patch it or compile in module?
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generally speaking... wouldn't you send your http information over tcp/ip... soooo... why would you go through all the trouble of trying to get you tcp/ip data into an http data which is going over tcp/ip... to me, this just sounds like a complicated solution to a simple problem. It's probably going to cause more problems in the process as well. And man... how big is the stack going to be when everything is done too?
Is it a truely distributed system or is it just a hack to look like one while all the while running on one machine, with one platform, with nothing being really distributed in any way?
hehe, I was just going to comment... there really isn't a whole lot to look at.
One thing that I've seen happening more often for these main-frame and mini-computer operating systems is that companies are using GUI wrappers for their client machine that interpret the data from the terminal emulation program. Sheds a whole new light on high-end computing.
You have the inherent stability of the main-frame/mini-computer operating system, along with ease of use from a GUI.
But, like who could ever please a critic. It's always sub par, the actors stink, or the plot had no meaning. Ever think about just watching and enjoying a movie rather than analysing it. You might be surprised.
Computer science is the science of computer and technology. Other science like social science, quantum science, political science are totally different. Just because a poly-sci proffessor uses his computer to type up a term paper does make him part of the computer science realm.
umm... how do I explain this... IT WAS JOKE!
Was I suppose to be impressed?
Don't be offended, but I just HATE nitpickers.
I'm not sure who my cale provider is anymore. I signed up under Mediaone Road Runner. Then it was taken over. And I think it's now AT&T digital, or something like that. And, for some strange reason I keep thinking there is and AOL connection to my cable company somehow. Not sure though.
At least I haven't been screwed. And I can honestly say I have never had any beefs with my cable provider.
15k/s... that must be rough.
let's see...
8 gigs here...
10 gigs there...
at 100 Mbps...
that's, 18 gigs...
or 144 gigabits...
144 gigabits divided by 100 megabits per second...
hmm...
24 minutes...
I think I need some bigger drives!
39.95 a month. i've been able to squeeze 1.550 Mbps download and 350 Kbps upload out of it. Add file compression and whoa!!! I actually like the staggered upload and download values. That means I can be serving 350 Kbps in files and leeching with the reaming bandwidth. Gotta love it. Besides, the phone company didn't seem to want my business with DSL. So I said screw them.
Game Gear! That's what I was thinking of. I bet if I rummaged through the drawers around here I might actually find it. Along with some games. Hmm... the search is on!
It might have been funny... IF IT HAD ACTUALLY BEEN APRIL 1ST.
I believe what I'm thinking about was the Sega Genesis. I might be wrong on the name. It was portable, horizontally aligned and in color, and that was nearly a decade ago. I remeber playing Sonic on it. I can't image Game boys new version to be any more popular than Sega's was. The part that gets me is why Nintendo is calling it 'Advanced' when it is anything but that. Goofy marketing people.
"I want RH to make a buck too, but this seems like a pretty crappy way to do it."
Of course it seems crappy to you. If it affects a user in any way that involves touching someones pocket book, then it must be crappy. Everyone likes everything, just as long as it is free. I'm sure there are many people out there who run webservers and ftp servers who know just how expensive bandwidth can be. Everyone wants Red Hat to be profitable. But no one, at least the majority here, wants to pay for anything related to it. It's always, "oh, the other guy will pay for it." It seems that a small minority of people are funding these projects and the rest are leaching off of it. (Gee, why does that sound familiar?)
I'm still looking for a company that has a working business model based on giving away products for free.
I'm not normally one to nitpick, but did you read what you just replied to? The answer to your question was clearly in there.
Nuclear baby! I was always against it untill I learned how the system worked in chemistry class. I had to hit myself over the head. What was I thinking.
It's been a while so I'm not brushed up my isotopes. But are there not various recycleable isotopes (plutionium. etc) that could be refined from the waste and used again? If my memory serves correct. European countries recycle the waste, but the US does not. Would this not help quite a bit in the waste department?
Anyways, I would honestly not mind having a nuclear reactor in 'my backyard.'
Well, in theory it is, Your connected everywhere you go. But, I have this bad picture of (no offense to the techno savy chicks out there, and to the few guys who are like this too) woman who are putting on make up and chatting on cell phones, while typing in an online chat room while zinging down the expressway weaving in and out of traffic. Yikes.
It might be beneficial to have such systems only activated when the vehicle is in (P)ark.
Banners ads, ack.
Where do banner ads go after they have been filtered? Digital Hell?
I prefer to filter them. Send them off into the ether. Sometimes I miss the flashing little buggers. But an hour on someone else machine rekindles my hate for them.
Now there is a new threat. Flash commercials, Aargh. It's going to be hard to filter just the flash movies and not the flash apps.
Sure it works, but not very efficiently. Mozilla has got to be the slowest rendering browser on the market. I'm running a 700mhz Athlon with 256MB ram, and I can tell a noticable slowness to how it renders and loads pages. My other machine, a pII 400mhz with IE5.5 render pages faster than my machine can. That shouldn't be.
I do give my kudos to the programmers though. Mozilla is just one of very few open source projects that actually works in the manner it was intended.
I stand by the my belief that 5% of open source software is good while the remaining 95% is crap, won't run, or isn't finished and never will be.
I think that this technolgy would be nice. But, I don't think that the quallity and the practical power of the printed circits would be what the user really wants. Power and performance wise.
However, this might be a great product for the do-it-yourself electronics guru. I would have a hay-day printing out my own circits and testing them. My hands are too shaky at times and soldering can be difficult. Most notably before the daily intake of caffeine. Trying to get those surface mount electronics on the board, man, those are hard to do!
There are times when the only thing you can do to increase performance is to overclock. Take PDA's for example. I have a Palm IIIx. Coolest thing since canned ham (not really). But anyways, it runs normally at 16mhz I believe. Through other individuals slick palm hacking. There is now software to overclock your palm pilots. My palm runs at a slick 29mhz. Through all the other optimizations it runs a ful 260% better than 'stock.' I've heard some people get their's all the way to 46mhz. Now that is smoking. As far as I know this is the only reliable way to increase the performance on your Palm Pilots.
So there you go, a practical OC'ing situation.
I do agree in part. Some code is really written in a half assed manner. If optimized they could make better use of a slower machines processor. But there are many applications that need raw processing power. OLTP programs are some big ones that come to mind. When a client wants his data, he wants it now. Doesn't want to be waiting more than a few seconds. Sometimes you have to let that 3Ghz processor site idle 90% of the time just to keep your clients happy.
Another thing I've noticed is that with such high amounts of processing power, coders no longer pay as much attention to what they are using. They are all trying to develop apps that the customer wants in a quick manner.
High speed and highly optimized code, Now that's a combination.
I overclocked my Athlon and have had little problems. Sometimes it takes a second boot for it to power up. But nothing serious. My only concerns are heat and what it may affect other than just the processor. I fried a power supply once from an overheated condition from the processor. I'm only running moderatly faster than 'stock' 700mhz (7x100) to 800mhz (8x100) it seems to run reliable with only a single fan on my Athlon. Besides, I don't want to reduce the life of my processor by soaking it with heat.
Sure, you can find instances where that is true, but the 'vast' majority of corporate run software, will not just recompile on another piece of hardware. If it were that easy to do, legacy systems would become more scarce, as moving to a new platform would be easier.
You cannot just recompile PC software on a Minicomputer with out major code changes. You cannot recompile Minicomputer software on a Mainframe with out major code changes. For that matter, any combonations of the three. Not to mention all of the different harware platforms out there now. PDA's, cell phones, a massive embedded enteroge.
Being more specific, you could not just recompile the 'make' code on another machine with out tweaking the code.
Poke your head above your unix box and you we see the light. Unix based platforms are not the only hardware options.
"As things are now, it is pretty easy to develop software for new hardware platforms. Just write a cross-compiler on an existing platform, and then copy the binary to the new system."
No offense, but this person must have never had to move software from one hardware platform to another. If he had he would realize that it isn't easy. Anyone whose ever gone from a PC to a mini-computer to a mainframe knows that isn't the case. IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS! You don't just take your source code from one machine and recompile it on another machine. It's doesn't work that way in the real world. In the real world the differences between different hardware platforms can be immense.
Those out there who have worked in the corporate world and had experience with these big systems, I feel your pain.
I can't seem to find it anywhere in the docs. But will the new 2.4 stuff properly route IPSec and PPTP VPN traffic with having to patch it or compile in module?