What I hate about this is revisionism... I was dying to find this information on the Web, but hey too old... All I remember is that it was a royal pain in the butt to publicly distribute software because Apple wanted to keep control.
Whatever... I knew I would be marked down as troll. After all, this APPLE the good company...
>I do trust Apple to use it responsibly. I wouldn't trust Microsoft to. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. All companies are not the same. Microsoft's evil misdeeds negatively affect their trustworthiness, but they don't affect all other companies too.
Well you are a fool... Both are corporations and both have profit motives. I trust neither!
As for what they'll revoke, that's the bigger question. [Microsoft] has not shown to be particularly hostile towards the jailbreak community in the past; even if they could revoke it, I don't believe they will. The real test on this policy would be the NetShare application, it's an application [Microsoft] has ceased to allow post-release and if the revocation system were to be abused it would be the prime target. So far [Microsoft] has not revoked it, even though they've had ample time to do so.
So what do you think now? Hmmm, probably "bloody Microsoft yet again evil taking control.."
Oh, but's Apple, and this is good! Want to know why the PC prospered? Apple around the time of when it could have gone its way introduced an SDK development process where every developer who wanted to deliver something had to have a developer token. Without the blessing of Apple no go on Apple hardware! It annoyed many developers and the rest is history...
Don't believe? Do some historical checks...
What gets me is that Apple could be this stupid yet again. BTW did you know T-Mobile is going to be offering their own store as well? And they already said, anybody can write software for any phone and they will provide a distribution mechanism.
The lack of tactile feedback is actually as user interface issue. Humans do need tactile feedback as it is something that tells the mind to STOP pushing or doing something.
By saying, "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" is being a typical Apple drone where if it does not work then something is wrong with you. Guess what people Apple is not the end, just another solution.
BTW one of the reasons you need a keyboard is that a keyboard with its tactile feedback requires less accuracy than say a keyboard like in the Apple. With a non-tactile feedback keyboard it is absolutely important to align your fingers with the coordinates of the keyboard. Whereas with a tactile feedback keyboard your fingers can adjust just as they touch the keyboard. You don't notice this behavior, but it does happen.
Yes you are right supply is another part of the equation. BUT going back to economics the best type of supply is the supply that can be interchanged. Oil is not that type of supply. Electricity is... We need to switch to electrical cars, NOW...
Read Taleb's book, fooled by randomness and black swan. He says that humans never get ready for things because the costs associated with getting ready outweigh the results.
His example was 9/11. One of the things he said that would have avoided the horrific act are bolted doors. Now imagine going back in time and saying, "I want to avoid a horrific act that will save much much much grief. And one of the ways to do this is to bolt the pilot doors."
The first answer would be no because of the involved costs. But imagine for the moment that they did do that. And imagine waiting for 9/11, and nothing happened. Imagine the reaction. It would be, "oh we just wasted all this money to stop a horrific act that did not happen?"
The thing is that it did stop the horrific act and it did stop the grief, but people would not appreciate it. That's why humans never prepare for things... Sad, but very very true...
For crying out loud... Do you REALLY think drilling is going to solve anything? This is called historical revisionism.
The reality is that oil and fuel would have gone up some time. Of course we can debate till the cows come home on when that would have been, but that would have come. And you would have said the same thing regarding the price of oil.
Here is a question, what car do you drive? And how much efficiency is in your house? Three years ago I traded in my 6 cylinder car for a 4 cylinder turbo charged because I had an inkling that oil would go up. I am glad that I did...
The name of the game is efficiency... Sadly most North American's thought it was cool to drive gas guzzlers...
And before you say, "I have a right." My response is, "sure you do, but you also have the right to pay through the nose..."
You are such a twit and the fact that your gay means diddly. I know gays who are quit conservative and would fit quite nicely into the Republican party, though the Republican's are too anal to understand that gays can be conservative.
Anyways, I am for promoting women because I happen to be married to a female electrical engineer (I am a male engineer) and who is going up on the managerial ladder. Yes she knows she is getting chances that other guys are not. But she is trying damm hard to prove she deserves the chance.
The reality is that many many fields are still a guys only club. And guys do it without actually realizing it. That is the problem. Guys select guys because that is the way they learned it. It is not that they don't want to select women, but they need the mold broken.
My wife knows I prefer working with women. I don't know why, but I just like to work with women. Nothing sexually oriented, but it seems easier and more pleasant to work with them. Maybe that's why I am not intimidated that my wife earns oodles more than I do, and is higher level manager.
You don't get it do you? Let's turn things around. A guy is a body builder and dress in shirts and outfits that show his muscles, do you do anything?
Well women would like to dress nice and look good. If she happens to be good looking well then that's her bonus. She can't help it, now can she? I mean if a woman has naturally large breasts what should she do against it? Press them against her body?
The problem is that you were oogling at her and that bothers her! She was annoyed that you could not treat her as a person, and instead just resorted to looking at her boobs! In other words a sexist oink!
>I know one thing if I had any plans to hold Yahoo stock for past next few months I'd be voteing to keep the current board.
Well then you are a bad investor. And you are damming Wallstreet without even knowing the entire story.
Have you looked at the bottom line of Yahoo lately? Read their cashflow statements maybe? If you had then you would be furious since Yahoo is doing a good job of screwing itself into the ground.
Yeah I made some money buying Puts when the Microsoft Yahoo deal was announced. I knew Yahoo was too damm stupid for its own good. The problem Yahoo has is that it has some great properties, but it can't monetize those properties. That's why Yahoo is executing way under its potential.
Sorry, but Darwin could not be replaced in an instant. The moment Apple adds the Linux kernel they will have license issues. Apple knows this, you know this, and Steve Jobs knows this. Thus they will not use the Linux kernel.
BTW you also have missed the point of Apple. Steve Jobs does not care that Linux has NPTL threads. Nor do I because I am thinking so what! Steve asks the question, how can this help my client!
Imagine Steve on stage saying, "hey this iPhone has NPTL threads...." The audience would say, "huh? Ok how does that help me?"
And this is why Linux on the desktop will never succeed... Stop talk about NPTL threads and start talking about building apps that users want...
Yeah this is silly because you are implying something that will never happen.
In your comment you said, "and eventually even Apple will not be able to avoid using Linux"
My answer is yes Apple will be able to avoid using Linux because they will always be ahead of Linux.
Saying that they are using BSD and hence could use Linux is missing the point of Steve Jobs. I would argue that the BSD kernel is inferior to the Linux kernel. Yet he chose BSD! Why because I am thinking in his mind a kernel is just a kernel and he has other things on his mind. And in his mind he sees control more important, hence the choosing of the BSD kernel.
>Am I to assume that if it is in the best economic interest of Apple to switch to Linux, that they won't do so?
Yes that is exactly what I am saying because Linux will never be in the best economic interest of Apple. Apple makes money hands over fist by selling a premium product. Linux is free and can't even get out of the starting gate. Of course I am referring to the client side, not the server side.
As long as Steve Jobs is in the helm Linux will NEVER, I repeat NEVER get to the quality of Apple. I don't use Apple, but I respect Apple for what it has done and is capable of.
The tech lead is an S&M friend! Give me a freaken break!
I use VS and Reshaper and am extremely productive. If I was using Java I would use Eclipse which is the same as VS and Reshaper combination.
The need to show "how good you are" with VIM is extremely lame!
Having developed for several decades I actually see the point of the standardization. That way you will not have one developer come in with their "latest and greatest" language that HAS to be used since everything else is so lame!
And if people don't like it they can leave...
Of course this goes on the assumption that dev had some input on the toolset, which is the case with half decent companies.
Ever lived near mountains? I sure do in Switzerland. That "mist" might just be mist or it might be pollution. But by looking at it from the sky you can't tell one way or the other...
It's like when people see clouds from smoke stacks and say, "oh look how much they pollute..." It might just be steam.
Actually he is not ignorant. The reality and this is from somebody who stopped writing books is that books are kind of useless. Yes you will still buy some books on specific topics. BUT on the whole the book market is DEAD!
It was great back around 2000... People still bought books. But now with most documentation being available on the Web and many many articles books really don't stand a chance.
Look I see it in my own behavior! When I want to learn something how do I do it?
Step 1) Type specific question in Google Step 2) Look at the articles Step 3) Read the articles Step 4) See where you went wrong and do further Google search Step 5) Goto Step 2!
The point is that at each step where you can go wrong you can Google it and get an answer... WHY on EARTH DO YOU NEED A BOOK?
It was at that point I gave up on being an author...
A cancer researcher using radio waves to target cancer cells stumbled upon a novel method to split water atoms into their hydrogen and oxygen component gasses using radio waves.
A research assistant noted test a tube with saline solution bubbling gas while the tube was in the path of a radio wave emitter operating at 14 megahertz. The researcher exposed the gas to an open flame and the gas stream lit. The photo in the article shows a yellow white flame coming from the mouth of the tube much like that of a propane torch. What is different about this method from run-of-the mill eletrolysis of water is the volume of gas being produced. It appears to be measurable in several liters/second rather than several liters/hour obtainable from laboratory eletrolysis equipment. Since it is not safe to store hydrogen and oxygen together because of the potential for violent explosion this method would be ideal for producing hydrogen fuel for immediate use or for storage of hydrogen after the two gasses are separated.
The article stated that the reaction was observed by others, but it did not say that the method has been duplicated. The article also did not say what the energy consumption was for the radio wave emitter. The observer surmised that the reaction may be asisted by the presence of NaCl in the solution.
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Really I don't know WTF I am talking about?
What I hate about this is revisionism... I was dying to find this information on the Web, but hey too old... All I remember is that it was a royal pain in the butt to publicly distribute software because Apple wanted to keep control.
Whatever... I knew I would be marked down as troll. After all, this APPLE the good company...
Give me a Freaken break!!!!
>I do trust Apple to use it responsibly. I wouldn't trust Microsoft to. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. All companies are not the same. Microsoft's evil misdeeds negatively affect their trustworthiness, but they don't affect all other companies too.
Well you are a fool... Both are corporations and both have profit motives. I trust neither!
OK.... Let's change this...
As for what they'll revoke, that's the bigger question. [Microsoft] has not shown to be particularly hostile towards the jailbreak community in the past; even if they could revoke it, I don't believe they will. The real test on this policy would be the NetShare application, it's an application [Microsoft] has ceased to allow post-release and if the revocation system were to be abused it would be the prime target. So far [Microsoft] has not revoked it, even though they've had ample time to do so.
So what do you think now? Hmmm, probably "bloody Microsoft yet again evil taking control.."
Oh, but's Apple, and this is good! Want to know why the PC prospered? Apple around the time of when it could have gone its way introduced an SDK development process where every developer who wanted to deliver something had to have a developer token. Without the blessing of Apple no go on Apple hardware! It annoyed many developers and the rest is history...
Don't believe? Do some historical checks...
What gets me is that Apple could be this stupid yet again. BTW did you know T-Mobile is going to be offering their own store as well? And they already said, anybody can write software for any phone and they will provide a distribution mechanism.
I am so glad I sold my Apple shares at 184.69...
That is some pretty creative thinking... You should patent that. Ooops Slashdot...
The lack of tactile feedback is actually as user interface issue. Humans do need tactile feedback as it is something that tells the mind to STOP pushing or doing something.
By saying, "oh this is not Apple's fault, but your own" is being a typical Apple drone where if it does not work then something is wrong with you. Guess what people Apple is not the end, just another solution.
BTW one of the reasons you need a keyboard is that a keyboard with its tactile feedback requires less accuracy than say a keyboard like in the Apple. With a non-tactile feedback keyboard it is absolutely important to align your fingers with the coordinates of the keyboard. Whereas with a tactile feedback keyboard your fingers can adjust just as they touch the keyboard. You don't notice this behavior, but it does happen.
Can't argue with that...
Well, guess what you are wrong... My house is heated by oil...
Yes you are right supply is another part of the equation. BUT going back to economics the best type of supply is the supply that can be interchanged. Oil is not that type of supply. Electricity is... We need to switch to electrical cars, NOW...
Want to know something... Humanity is stupid!
Read Taleb's book, fooled by randomness and black swan. He says that humans never get ready for things because the costs associated with getting ready outweigh the results.
His example was 9/11. One of the things he said that would have avoided the horrific act are bolted doors. Now imagine going back in time and saying, "I want to avoid a horrific act that will save much much much grief. And one of the ways to do this is to bolt the pilot doors."
The first answer would be no because of the involved costs. But imagine for the moment that they did do that. And imagine waiting for 9/11, and nothing happened. Imagine the reaction. It would be, "oh we just wasted all this money to stop a horrific act that did not happen?"
The thing is that it did stop the horrific act and it did stop the grief, but people would not appreciate it. That's why humans never prepare for things... Sad, but very very true...
For crying out loud... Do you REALLY think drilling is going to solve anything? This is called historical revisionism.
The reality is that oil and fuel would have gone up some time. Of course we can debate till the cows come home on when that would have been, but that would have come. And you would have said the same thing regarding the price of oil.
Here is a question, what car do you drive? And how much efficiency is in your house? Three years ago I traded in my 6 cylinder car for a 4 cylinder turbo charged because I had an inkling that oil would go up. I am glad that I did...
The name of the game is efficiency... Sadly most North American's thought it was cool to drive gas guzzlers...
And before you say, "I have a right." My response is, "sure you do, but you also have the right to pay through the nose..."
You are such a twit and the fact that your gay means diddly. I know gays who are quit conservative and would fit quite nicely into the Republican party, though the Republican's are too anal to understand that gays can be conservative.
Anyways, I am for promoting women because I happen to be married to a female electrical engineer (I am a male engineer) and who is going up on the managerial ladder. Yes she knows she is getting chances that other guys are not. But she is trying damm hard to prove she deserves the chance.
The reality is that many many fields are still a guys only club. And guys do it without actually realizing it. That is the problem. Guys select guys because that is the way they learned it. It is not that they don't want to select women, but they need the mold broken.
My wife knows I prefer working with women. I don't know why, but I just like to work with women. Nothing sexually oriented, but it seems easier and more pleasant to work with them. Maybe that's why I am not intimidated that my wife earns oodles more than I do, and is higher level manager.
You don't get it do you? Let's turn things around. A guy is a body builder and dress in shirts and outfits that show his muscles, do you do anything?
Well women would like to dress nice and look good. If she happens to be good looking well then that's her bonus. She can't help it, now can she? I mean if a woman has naturally large breasts what should she do against it? Press them against her body?
The problem is that you were oogling at her and that bothers her! She was annoyed that you could not treat her as a person, and instead just resorted to looking at her boobs! In other words a sexist oink!
Of course you can... Just that I am first as well... RTA...
>I know one thing if I had any plans to hold Yahoo stock for past next few months I'd be voteing to keep the current board.
Well then you are a bad investor. And you are damming Wallstreet without even knowing the entire story.
Have you looked at the bottom line of Yahoo lately? Read their cashflow statements maybe? If you had then you would be furious since Yahoo is doing a good job of screwing itself into the ground.
Yeah I made some money buying Puts when the Microsoft Yahoo deal was announced. I knew Yahoo was too damm stupid for its own good. The problem Yahoo has is that it has some great properties, but it can't monetize those properties. That's why Yahoo is executing way under its potential.
Sorry, but Darwin could not be replaced in an instant. The moment Apple adds the Linux kernel they will have license issues. Apple knows this, you know this, and Steve Jobs knows this. Thus they will not use the Linux kernel.
BTW you also have missed the point of Apple. Steve Jobs does not care that Linux has NPTL threads. Nor do I because I am thinking so what! Steve asks the question, how can this help my client!
Imagine Steve on stage saying, "hey this iPhone has NPTL threads...." The audience would say, "huh? Ok how does that help me?"
And this is why Linux on the desktop will never succeed... Stop talk about NPTL threads and start talking about building apps that users want...
Yeah this is silly because you are implying something that will never happen.
In your comment you said, "and eventually even Apple will not be able to avoid using Linux"
My answer is yes Apple will be able to avoid using Linux because they will always be ahead of Linux.
Saying that they are using BSD and hence could use Linux is missing the point of Steve Jobs. I would argue that the BSD kernel is inferior to the Linux kernel. Yet he chose BSD! Why because I am thinking in his mind a kernel is just a kernel and he has other things on his mind. And in his mind he sees control more important, hence the choosing of the BSD kernel.
>Am I to assume that if it is in the best economic interest of Apple to switch to Linux, that they won't do so?
Yes that is exactly what I am saying because Linux will never be in the best economic interest of Apple. Apple makes money hands over fist by selling a premium product. Linux is free and can't even get out of the starting gate. Of course I am referring to the client side, not the server side.
>it will just get better and better, and eventually even Apple will not be able to avoid using Linux
ROTFL... Ok... Please raise this argument with Steve Jobs, ok?
Sorry, comparing Steve and Apple to Linux is like comparing a highly tuned sexy car with all of the gimmicks to an Otto car.
http://www.ausbcomp.com/~bbott/cars/carhist.htm
As long as Steve Jobs is in the helm Linux will NEVER, I repeat NEVER get to the quality of Apple. I don't use Apple, but I respect Apple for what it has done and is capable of.
>BSD-advocates often fail to understand why the GPL is so successful.
Maybe because most successful open source projects aren't GPL!
Sure Linux, and MySQL are GPL, but from a success perspective Apache, Python, PHP, Perl, Mozilla, etc are actually amazingly successful.
Personally I prefer the BSD licenses or Mozilla type licenses.
Really? The company is doomed? Gee go ahead and tell Google that please! Or how about Apple...
For example if I were a Google employee could I use .NET? Ahhhh run to the hills...
Or how about if I were an Apple employee could I use Java? Ahhhh run to the hills...
These companies are successful because they have specialized in a toolset...
The tech lead is an S&M friend! Give me a freaken break!
I use VS and Reshaper and am extremely productive. If I was using Java I would use Eclipse which is the same as VS and Reshaper combination.
The need to show "how good you are" with VIM is extremely lame!
Having developed for several decades I actually see the point of the standardization. That way you will not have one developer come in with their "latest and greatest" language that HAS to be used since everything else is so lame!
And if people don't like it they can leave...
Of course this goes on the assumption that dev had some input on the toolset, which is the case with half decent companies.
Where is the pollution?
The picture of the mountains and the "mist"?
Ever lived near mountains? I sure do in Switzerland. That "mist" might just be mist or it might be pollution. But by looking at it from the sky you can't tell one way or the other...
It's like when people see clouds from smoke stacks and say, "oh look how much they pollute..." It might just be steam.
Actually he is not ignorant. The reality and this is from somebody who stopped writing books is that books are kind of useless. Yes you will still buy some books on specific topics. BUT on the whole the book market is DEAD!
It was great back around 2000... People still bought books. But now with most documentation being available on the Web and many many articles books really don't stand a chance.
Look I see it in my own behavior! When I want to learn something how do I do it?
Step 1) Type specific question in Google
Step 2) Look at the articles
Step 3) Read the articles
Step 4) See where you went wrong and do further Google search
Step 5) Goto Step 2!
The point is that at each step where you can go wrong you can Google it and get an answer... WHY on EARTH DO YOU NEED A BOOK?
It was at that point I gave up on being an author...
Wait, please don't say "Western" societies... Say American society... European society has very advanced phones as well....
WAIT ONE MOMENT...
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2007-11/turning-water-fuel
http://www.topix.com/forum/tech/TTIH6KF6MDPN1SS51
A cancer researcher using radio waves to target cancer cells stumbled upon a novel method to split water atoms into their hydrogen and oxygen component gasses using radio waves.
A research assistant noted test a tube with saline solution bubbling gas while the tube was in the path of a radio wave emitter operating at 14 megahertz. The researcher exposed the gas to an open flame and the gas stream lit. The photo in the article shows a yellow white flame coming from the mouth of the tube much like that of a propane torch. What is different about this method from run-of-the mill eletrolysis of water is the volume of gas being produced. It appears to be measurable in several liters/second rather than several liters/hour obtainable from laboratory eletrolysis equipment. Since it is not safe to store hydrogen and oxygen together because of the potential for violent explosion this method would be ideal for producing hydrogen fuel for immediate use or for storage of hydrogen after the two gasses are separated.
The article stated that the reaction was observed by others, but it did not say that the method has been duplicated. The article also did not say what the energy consumption was for the radio wave emitter. The observer surmised that the reaction may be asisted by the presence of NaCl in the solution.
I would argue wrong...
What is fire? Explosions, and flames are examples of chain reactions.
The amount of energy needed to start a flame or explosion is many factors lower than keeping it going.
So while I agree one should be skeptical, one should not dismiss...