Hey, I think the Farmville thing *is* significant, because the client is written in Flash... I wonder how do they get it running on the iPhone. A full rewrite is the most obvious possibility, but I wonder if there's a more interesting technology there.
You're wondering how they managed OpenGL with Compositing, Vector graphics and native hardware acceleration and no Flash? Seriously?
a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match
Uh... So the thing obviously doesn't have an actual gyroscope, so I'm assuming he means rotational accelerometers... which is better then regular accelerometers how? They measure different things. Am I or the summary getting some lingo wrong?
Wifi only because AT&T will never allow it. They say they are working with carriers which means outside the US it should be available in no time but inside, you can forget about it.
It is iPhone only, but it sounds like Apple is opening up the protocol for others to use. It would be nice if there was a standard for video calls on phones.
I've got over 14,000 Wi-Fi hotspots to choose from to chat and discuss in video conferencing. The last thing I need is a bunch of morons driving on I-5 trying to chat and look at who they are chatting with, simultaneously. It's bad enough already with just voice.
Why wouldn't having a mobile web-cam be interesting, especially to an IT type? "Hey I'm in the server room, but I can't find the box you're looking for. Here, I'll show you..." Don't people do that with Android already?
Especially with the back camera facing the server and your front camera showing you, both in a split view to talk and show the object of the conversation at the same time.
The reality is,(with a few exceptions I'm sure)that for any reasonably complex application, a native app can almost certainly be superior than a web app. If the SDK and API's are even halfway decent, you're going to have way more options programming directly to the OS than you will going through a web browser. Not to mention that native apps can gain easy access to UI elements that are consistent within that OS. These benefits hold true on a desktop computer as well as a phone/tablet/whatever.
Now that doesn't mean that farmville is going to take full advantage of all of that, but at least they have that opportunity. Honestly, if I was in Farmville's position, I'd have released a native iPhone App and also would be working on an HTML5 version. If you've got the resources, you should put your best foot forward on any platform that you think will make you money.
I can't believe we even have to explain to people that native OS applications will always be more extensible, faster and scalable than Web Apps. What the hell they teach today to this generation continues to come out as a bag of hurt.
Have you ever tried to read an ebook in PDF format? I have and quite frankly it sucks. It kind of works on my eee PC, but anything smaller than that and it's not going to work. There's a lot of features you don't get with a PDF which even a basic reader app can do. Such as inverting the colors so that the background is dark and the text is light. Causing the text to reflow based upon the size of the screen. And not contain executable code which documents should never have included.
Has it not occurred to you that Display PDF manages a lot of your desires for you?
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Considering the current hate between Adobe and Apple, I'm a bit surprised myself.
Stevie J. may be pissed off at Adobe right now (they'll probably make nice eventually) but PDF is the native display format used by OS X* so he probably doesn't have a problem with it on the iPhone.
*I'm not sure if that carries over to the iPhone OS--uh, I mean, iOS--or not. Anyone out there who can fill me in on that?
Quartz is Quartz. Display PDF is Display PDF. The implementations into the OS services is where they are different.
That would be the wrong pony. Take a step back and think about it, but first ease up on your zealotry for Apple.
Sorry, but at NeXT and Apple we wrote quite a few fortune 50/100/500 solutions for Corporations while they ramped up their staffing of such skill sets necessary to maintain and extend beyond their initial project goals.
Who the hell do you think Adobe hired for a lot of it's internal Cocoa apps? NeXT and later Apple.
nobody wants to pay to download Wired magazine's 500 megabyte iPad edition (which is what happens when you cancel flash support and leave everyone scrambling).
How is it Apples fault that Adobes "solution" for a lack of flash, is to bundle a heap of IMAGESinto an App?
Maybe Apple should have allowed Flash to run on the iPad then? At the moment they say they are against Flash but the problem is, whats the alternative? HTML5 is still too much in it's infancy to be an acceptable alternative, and things like this 500mg iPad magazine shows that the other option isn't a good option since the new data plans listed are what? 2 gigs max I think before extra charges? So 4 magazines and there goes your bandwidth and you have to pay more to surf the internet or only download the magazines when your on a wifi-only link (which kinda kills the whole 3g network concept). In the end at the worst case is that Apple should allow at least a watered down version of Flash to run since it would be better then nothing and then make it obsolete when a better technology shows up.
Maybe Wired should have backed the right Pony and hired Apple to consult in writing their application and not Adobe.
Objective-C is a layer on top of C [6, 17]. It supports classes and
message passing paradigms similar to Smalltalk. Describing
Objective-C in detail is outside the scope of this paper. Here we
give only a brief overview of Objective-C, which is based on the
Objective-C FAQ in http://www.yahoo.com/Computers/Languages/Objective_C/.
The main characteristics of Objective-C are:
It is compiled.
It has a dynamic runtime system (objects are dynamically typed).
Full type information (name and type information of methods and
instance variables and type information of method arguments) is
available at run time.
Classes and methods can be added (dynamically loaded) at runtime.
There is one root class Object from which all other classes
inherit. (This is not quite true; other root classes can be
defined, e.g., NSProxy in OpenStep.)
Method/message syntax is similar to Smalltalk.
Unlike in Smalltalk, there is no garbage collection. Instead,
reference counting pseudo-garbage collection techniques are
typically used.
No, America would have all the manpower needed, if we ended most welfare. Children 18 and under should be fed, as well as children 18 - ~25 who are attending college, and so should the elderly. Let's empty our prison cells, our ghetto projects, and everyplace else we are warehousing deadbeat do-nothing bums, and put them to work.
Yeah, the idea is HIGHLY unpopular - but I say that people who produce nothing, should consume nothing. All able bodied persons who are not otherwise gainfully employed can start pollinating the strawberries, peaches, apples, and all the other crops that we enjoy. Let me emphasize - ALL able bodied people. And, that will include a lot of people that we have classified as "handicapped". It doesn't take a mental giant to do a few hours of menial labor out in the field each week, nor does it take a lot of stamina.
Maybe we can reduce the number of tons of fat that Americans are carrying around with them at the same time!
You have a much higher probability of seeing pigs fly before your fantasies about America becoming a pack horde of farm pollinators ever happens.
The research should focus on communication wave patterns that Bess rely on and to see if disruption zones are happening with the RF waves; and if so how we can adjust our communication signal patterns to accomodate them. It's a far cheaper solution.
You can run Office on a Mac. You can run iWork on a Mac. You can run NeoOffice on a Mac. You can run OpenOffice on Linux. Gmail or Zimbra can probably do nearly everything that they'd maybe need Exchange for, but I doubt Google used Exchange in the first place. Most of their engineers will probably pick Linux, and most of their "office droids" will probably get a Mac by default. A modern Linux or MacOS X desktop is hardly an Ultra5 with Solaris 8 with nasty purple CDE pretending XEmacs is a word processor.
Seriously, the three Abrahamic religions are all Persian created fairy tales that keeps getting newer revisions and being called The Word of Some Desert God.
They all suffer not just from being plagiarized myths/fables but a deep lack of Punani power in their Impotent Tree.
True! Problem is, nobody knows what all that extra money can be used for. The NASA centers are trying to figure out how to invent new projects to fit into the programs dictated by that budget.
Very astute observation. The money isn't in an open pool for any department to use. They are predefined and constrained.
I believe that GP was saying it would be out of most people's price range to purchase that equipment for their own personal use. They also stated that it would likely make small, local ISPs economically viable... which is pretty much you said somebody could do. Unless you happen to think $500k is a reasonable amount of money to spend on home networking gear, in which case I'd like to give you my card the next time your home internet connection gets a bit laggy...
Most start ups can absorb the $500k if they want to be an ISP.
My cable company (Grande) is the only wired ISP allowed in my area of Austin. It's regulated that way, and it's a de jure monopoly. Clear operates, but I think that's only because the way the monopoly is granted.
Brother's mono laser printer is amazing-- its wireless, doesnt use crappy drivers (unlike HP), and has a great web interface. Make sure you do the "tape over the toner sensor" trick, it tries to short you on toner.
It's amazing how so many people forgot that trick or the black marker look.
You'd think with all the GUI work done by Apple, Microsoft, even Google, and other folks one might expect the KInfoCenter right column would have an one icon for the CPU [single slot systems] and a clean list of # of Cores, Extensions, etc and not an Icon for each Core. If you have multiple slots and thus say, 2 Quad Core CPUs then fine, put two icons. The rounded rectangle Border is hideous and how they can't get and inset look boggle the imagination.
How about one combined Rounded Rectangle with an inset look and start with 4 Icons across one row with one active DIV describing all the pertinent information below that Icon tab, then click the next Icon Tab and switch the view? Use jQuery or some other library to pull it off.
Inkjets are a complete waste of money. Get yourself a b&w laser printer for document printing and go get any photos you want printed over to your local grocery store (via SD card or whatever) where you can get them printed for cheap. I try explaining this to some people but they don't seem to get it and would still rather waste money on ink and glossy paper.
Exactly! Let the drug store/grocery store that has Kodak printing managed in-house print off your loving photos on very dense paper with output that no inkjet can touch, at a fraction of the cost.
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Hey, I think the Farmville thing *is* significant, because the client is written in Flash... I wonder how do they get it running on the iPhone. A full rewrite is the most obvious possibility, but I wonder if there's a more interesting technology there.
You're wondering how they managed OpenGL with Compositing, Vector graphics and native hardware acceleration and no Flash? Seriously?
a three-axis gyroscope, which allows rotation and precision that accelerometers can't match
Uh... So the thing obviously doesn't have an actual gyroscope, so I'm assuming he means rotational accelerometers... which is better then regular accelerometers how? They measure different things. Am I or the summary getting some lingo wrong?
Glad to see your science skills are from 1949.
Wifi only because AT&T will never allow it. They say they are working with carriers which means outside the US it should be available in no time but inside, you can forget about it.
It is iPhone only, but it sounds like Apple is opening up the protocol for others to use. It would be nice if there was a standard for video calls on phones.
I've got over 14,000 Wi-Fi hotspots to choose from to chat and discuss in video conferencing. The last thing I need is a bunch of morons driving on I-5 trying to chat and look at who they are chatting with, simultaneously. It's bad enough already with just voice.
"You do realize that there's a difference between having a webcam sitting on top of your monitor and sending live video from your phone, right?"
Hey, look, my netbook has a camera. OH SHIT SO DOES MY PSP.
Apple is doing NOTHING new.
"Not to mention that Apple's version of it will probably be about as simple as making a phone call."
Never used Camfrog, I see. Sign up for a username, browse chat room list. It's that simple.
Also, the video speed is so good deaf people use the program for VRS.
I've seen Apple's implementations of prior video chats - THEY UNIVERSALLY SUCK.
You continue to be a douche bag who doesn't grasp the integration of Apple's solutions.
And used by who?
Why wouldn't having a mobile web-cam be interesting, especially to an IT type? "Hey I'm in the server room, but I can't find the box you're looking for. Here, I'll show you..." Don't people do that with Android already?
Especially with the back camera facing the server and your front camera showing you, both in a split view to talk and show the object of the conversation at the same time.
The reality is,(with a few exceptions I'm sure)that for any reasonably complex application, a native app can almost certainly be superior than a web app. If the SDK and API's are even halfway decent, you're going to have way more options programming directly to the OS than you will going through a web browser. Not to mention that native apps can gain easy access to UI elements that are consistent within that OS. These benefits hold true on a desktop computer as well as a phone/tablet/whatever.
Now that doesn't mean that farmville is going to take full advantage of all of that, but at least they have that opportunity. Honestly, if I was in Farmville's position, I'd have released a native iPhone App and also would be working on an HTML5 version. If you've got the resources, you should put your best foot forward on any platform that you think will make you money.
I can't believe we even have to explain to people that native OS applications will always be more extensible, faster and scalable than Web Apps. What the hell they teach today to this generation continues to come out as a bag of hurt.
Have you ever tried to read an ebook in PDF format? I have and quite frankly it sucks. It kind of works on my eee PC, but anything smaller than that and it's not going to work. There's a lot of features you don't get with a PDF which even a basic reader app can do. Such as inverting the colors so that the background is dark and the text is light. Causing the text to reflow based upon the size of the screen. And not contain executable code which documents should never have included.
Has it not occurred to you that Display PDF manages a lot of your desires for you?
Considering the current hate between Adobe and Apple, I'm a bit surprised myself.
Stevie J. may be pissed off at Adobe right now (they'll probably make nice eventually) but PDF is the native display format used by OS X* so he probably doesn't have a problem with it on the iPhone.
*I'm not sure if that carries over to the iPhone OS--uh, I mean, iOS--or not. Anyone out there who can fill me in on that?
Quartz is Quartz. Display PDF is Display PDF. The implementations into the OS services is where they are different.
Yeah, I'm excited. This means Motorola's and HTC's next high-end Android phones are going to have an even higher density display.
That all depends on Patents.
That would be the wrong pony. Take a step back and think about it, but first ease up on your zealotry for Apple.
Sorry, but at NeXT and Apple we wrote quite a few fortune 50/100/500 solutions for Corporations while they ramped up their staffing of such skill sets necessary to maintain and extend beyond their initial project goals.
Who the hell do you think Adobe hired for a lot of it's internal Cocoa apps? NeXT and later Apple.
Maybe Apple should have allowed Flash to run on the iPad then? At the moment they say they are against Flash but the problem is, whats the alternative? HTML5 is still too much in it's infancy to be an acceptable alternative, and things like this 500mg iPad magazine shows that the other option isn't a good option since the new data plans listed are what? 2 gigs max I think before extra charges? So 4 magazines and there goes your bandwidth and you have to pay more to surf the internet or only download the magazines when your on a wifi-only link (which kinda kills the whole 3g network concept). In the end at the worst case is that Apple should allow at least a watered down version of Flash to run since it would be better then nothing and then make it obsolete when a better technology shows up.
Maybe Wired should have backed the right Pony and hired Apple to consult in writing their application and not Adobe.
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/tcl95/full_papers/bogdanovich.txt
Excerpt:
No, America would have all the manpower needed, if we ended most welfare. Children 18 and under should be fed, as well as children 18 - ~25 who are attending college, and so should the elderly. Let's empty our prison cells, our ghetto projects, and everyplace else we are warehousing deadbeat do-nothing bums, and put them to work.
Yeah, the idea is HIGHLY unpopular - but I say that people who produce nothing, should consume nothing. All able bodied persons who are not otherwise gainfully employed can start pollinating the strawberries, peaches, apples, and all the other crops that we enjoy. Let me emphasize - ALL able bodied people. And, that will include a lot of people that we have classified as "handicapped". It doesn't take a mental giant to do a few hours of menial labor out in the field each week, nor does it take a lot of stamina.
Maybe we can reduce the number of tons of fat that Americans are carrying around with them at the same time!
You have a much higher probability of seeing pigs fly before your fantasies about America becoming a pack horde of farm pollinators ever happens.
The research should focus on communication wave patterns that Bess rely on and to see if disruption zones are happening with the RF waves; and if so how we can adjust our communication signal patterns to accomodate them. It's a far cheaper solution.
You can run Office on a Mac. You can run iWork on a Mac. You can run NeoOffice on a Mac. You can run OpenOffice on Linux. Gmail or Zimbra can probably do nearly everything that they'd maybe need Exchange for, but I doubt Google used Exchange in the first place. Most of their engineers will probably pick Linux, and most of their "office droids" will probably get a Mac by default. A modern Linux or MacOS X desktop is hardly an Ultra5 with Solaris 8 with nasty purple CDE pretending XEmacs is a word processor.
Even OpenOffice is ported natively to OS X.
Apple (or any other company)
Care to try again genius?
Tell me how many you employ in manufacturing.
Granted maybe half a million of those are picture of Muhammad Ali, but there are literally millions of images of Muhammad on the Internet...
Makes you wonder how you could possibly remove them all... Of course you cannot.
And the more noise made about it, the more images there will be.
And yet, not one photograph of the Arch-Angel Michael coming out of the Cave.
Seriously, the three Abrahamic religions are all Persian created fairy tales that keeps getting newer revisions and being called The Word of Some Desert God.
They all suffer not just from being plagiarized myths/fables but a deep lack of Punani power in their Impotent Tree.
True! Problem is, nobody knows what all that extra money can be used for. The NASA centers are trying to figure out how to invent new projects to fit into the programs dictated by that budget.
Very astute observation. The money isn't in an open pool for any department to use. They are predefined and constrained.
I believe that GP was saying it would be out of most people's price range to purchase that equipment for their own personal use. They also stated that it would likely make small, local ISPs economically viable... which is pretty much you said somebody could do. Unless you happen to think $500k is a reasonable amount of money to spend on home networking gear, in which case I'd like to give you my card the next time your home internet connection gets a bit laggy...
Most start ups can absorb the $500k if they want to be an ISP.
My cable company (Grande) is the only wired ISP allowed in my area of Austin. It's regulated that way, and it's a de jure monopoly. Clear operates, but I think that's only because the way the monopoly is granted.
Then file a lawsuit.
experience while using Cocoa and Objective-C, don't blame Apple. Blame the limited talents of Adobe and Wired who developed the application.
Brother's mono laser printer is amazing-- its wireless, doesnt use crappy drivers (unlike HP), and has a great web interface. Make sure you do the "tape over the toner sensor" trick, it tries to short you on toner.
It's amazing how so many people forgot that trick or the black marker look.
The boundary is being breached by the form field on your right column. One's eye just jumps right to it. I'm using Firefox 3.6.4.
Give us back 3.5 with Konqueror.
You'd think with all the GUI work done by Apple, Microsoft, even Google, and other folks one might expect the KInfoCenter right column would have an one icon for the CPU [single slot systems] and a clean list of # of Cores, Extensions, etc and not an Icon for each Core. If you have multiple slots and thus say, 2 Quad Core CPUs then fine, put two icons. The rounded rectangle Border is hideous and how they can't get and inset look boggle the imagination.
Even something freshly KDE 4 that organizes intelligently in a similar look: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/0-blog-pics/mac-os-x-account-preferences.png
could go a long way to a professional, clean look. It can be their own, but this image is garbage: http://linuxcrunch.com/sites/default/files/imagepicker/3/kinfoCenter.png
How about one combined Rounded Rectangle with an inset look and start with 4 Icons across one row with one active DIV describing all the pertinent information below that Icon tab, then click the next Icon Tab and switch the view? Use jQuery or some other library to pull it off.
Inkjets are a complete waste of money. Get yourself a b&w laser printer for document printing and go get any photos you want printed over to your local grocery store (via SD card or whatever) where you can get them printed for cheap. I try explaining this to some people but they don't seem to get it and would still rather waste money on ink and glossy paper.
Exactly! Let the drug store/grocery store that has Kodak printing managed in-house print off your loving photos on very dense paper with output that no inkjet can touch, at a fraction of the cost.