The third in as many prominent efforts into releasing ReiserFS Debian
Install Disks has been made by Zoltan Kraus. Though Zoltan has improved on
his predecessor, John H. Robinson, IV's previous work substantially. Most
notably Zoltan's disk are using 2.2.19 and ReiserFS 3.5.32 accompanied by
the latest reiserfsprogs. His disks are at http://debianboot.digitaltux.com/.
They are also mirrored at http://www.markybob.com/zoltan/2.2disks In an
email from him, he claims that "They have been tested and work perfectly on
both desktops and laptops." Other patches that have also been included in
the disk set are: Raid Patch 0.9, Raid1 ReadBalance, Hedrick's IDE Backport,
Solar Designer's Secure Linux Patch, among other miscellaneous performance
related patches.
In what could be a coup for Zoltan, he may become one of the first people to
release a 2.4.x Debian install disk for public consumption as well as a set
of XFS Debian Install disks which will be keenly sought after by many
cutting edge Debian users. "I plan to make a set of XFS disks when they bump
up their CVS to kernel 2.4.3 and a set of ReiserFS 2.4.3 disks when I have
time to debug it." Seeing that 2.4.3 is out now, be on the lookup in the
next few weeks.
Maybe he was waiting for XFS 1.0 - should be real soon now at any rate.
Charging for downloading a linux distro is wrong. Problem with bandwidth? Use a mirror like the rest of them do - spout all you want about them having rights to charge for their hard work, they take debian, change a few packages, add some pretty GUI's and now it's Their distro? I don't think so.
Mandrake will have apt in 8.0 too - it's in their beta (or so I heard).
But a simple port to RPM isn't enough. RPM's have to be built to use apt, and very few do - compared to debian unstable which has 6000+ packages that just work.
If the Linux community could take the best thinking from both the KDE and
GNOME projects and join forces, they would have the best chance for success.
Screw that. I love having both of them, competing with each other. It provokes more innovation, competition is good - neither of them are going to go away, so both will continue to improve steadily. All we need is for Gnome and KDE to decide on one theming method(or more, for pixmap based or engines) which both Qt and GTK+ can support, and that would be it. Then when you choose a theme, your KDE apps look like your Gnome apps and vice versa. Then MS/*Company* could port to what ever toolkit suited them best, and not have to worry about 'standards'.
I've heard about meta-theme, but AFAIK it requires seperate themes for each toolkit to look the same (hopefully I'm wrong and it does what I said and we're saved).
I dont understand how you morons can be discouraging these people from doing something they want to do. Even if it doesn't become useful, IT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I can't imagine what the person who thought of this name was thinking at the time. What a stupid stupid choice, "Ximian".. geezus, shame to Helix. shame.
I bet this name choice will impact users.. noone wants to use a desktop with the name "Frilly Red Panty GNOME", Ximian is worse.
I'm not pretending, you really are stupid. I said, I KNOW ITS ILLEGAL, AND, I know it's not OK, BUT. It's OK with _me_ and all of the napster users, and anyone who has downloaded an mp3 of a commercial song. This isn't bullshit, these are facts, you may have a problem with it, tough shit. Good for you if you can stop it happening.
And, no I wouldn't be O.K with it, but that isn't what I said is it now?
It's not free. And it's completely illegal, but it's there, and the opennap SERVERS don't/wont try to charge for their illegal service (or try to make it legal). So I (like all the other napster users) will abuse this until it's taken down and we're all forced to use freenet or something like it.
Anyways, one could claim that the Linux community is very good at cloning prior art, but not very receptive to radical developments of it's own.
I think the reason Linux seems to clone everything is because it's based on unix - which exists in one way or another - and people want it to stay unix. Any major changes would have to mean a fork(because we can't abandon our great unix model..) - the developers either dont want change, or know that any changes they do make will just be wasted effort because Linus simply wont include them if they change Linux's way of thinking (unix unix unix) - any that actually go forward with the changes would have to fork. Not that Linus is doing a bad job, he has to keep everything sane after all, and radical changes would mean a very very slow release cycle due to introduced bugs, etc. etc.
A fork could be good for it. We could have server and desktop (although I can't see Linux getting anywhere on the Desktop while XFree86 is.. XFree86) being developed seperately, so the release cycle/features of each wouldn't affect the other.
And yes, I know this wont happen - but wouldn't it be nice?
dselect is already being replaced
so you can all stop whining about it and install the alternatives
aptitude and console-apt replace it
there is even gnome-apt(but it sucks.. sort by category, NOT letter *hint hint*)
(Yes i know debian still uses dselect on install, but you dont _have_ to do that.)
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From a debian planet article:
The third in as many prominent efforts into releasing ReiserFS Debian Install Disks has been made by Zoltan Kraus. Though Zoltan has improved on his predecessor, John H. Robinson, IV's previous work substantially. Most notably Zoltan's disk are using 2.2.19 and ReiserFS 3.5.32 accompanied by the latest reiserfsprogs. His disks are at http://debianboot.digitaltux.com/.
They are also mirrored at http://www.markybob.com/zoltan/2.2disks In an email from him, he claims that "They have been tested and work perfectly on both desktops and laptops." Other patches that have also been included in the disk set are: Raid Patch 0.9, Raid1 ReadBalance, Hedrick's IDE Backport, Solar Designer's Secure Linux Patch, among other miscellaneous performance related patches.
In what could be a coup for Zoltan, he may become one of the first people to release a 2.4.x Debian install disk for public consumption as well as a set of XFS Debian Install disks which will be keenly sought after by many cutting edge Debian users. "I plan to make a set of XFS disks when they bump up their CVS to kernel 2.4.3 and a set of ReiserFS 2.4.3 disks when I have time to debug it." Seeing that 2.4.3 is out now, be on the lookup in the next few weeks.
Maybe he was waiting for XFS 1.0 - should be real soon now at any rate.
Charging for downloading a linux distro is wrong. Problem with bandwidth? Use a mirror like the rest of them do - spout all you want about them having rights to charge for their hard work, they take debian, change a few packages, add some pretty GUI's and now it's Their distro? I don't think so.
Go Progeny.
This was pointed out to them a while ago, they're fixing it.
99% of the time "unstable" is more stable than the other distro's 'stable' versions (RedTurban/SuSE/etc.).
Mandrake will have apt in 8.0 too - it's in their beta (or so I heard).
But a simple port to RPM isn't enough. RPM's have to be built to use apt, and very few do - compared to debian unstable which has 6000+ packages that just work.
Screw that. I love having both of them, competing with each other. It provokes more innovation, competition is good - neither of them are going to go away, so both will continue to improve steadily. All we need is for Gnome and KDE to decide on one theming method(or more, for pixmap based or engines) which both Qt and GTK+ can support, and that would be it. Then when you choose a theme, your KDE apps look like your Gnome apps and vice versa. Then MS/*Company* could port to what ever toolkit suited them best, and not have to worry about 'standards'.
I've heard about meta-theme, but AFAIK it requires seperate themes for each toolkit to look the same (hopefully I'm wrong and it does what I said and we're saved).
Don't think so.. it sure would be nice though.
For those with no backup device/spare space..
you have to start from scratch.
Are there any good clients out there?
I dont understand how you morons can be discouraging these people from doing something they want to do. Even if it doesn't become useful, IT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
XPFS or CPFS
(cross platform FS)
We have Progeny now, Stormix was mostly Debain+Newbie stuff(right?) - Progeny is doing well. Maybe they should just join up with them?
JED!!!!
lol... obviously i have NFI of these matters :)
Why don't we just send our waste to the sun?
I can't imagine what the person who thought of this name was thinking at the time. What a stupid stupid choice, "Ximian" .. geezus, shame to Helix. shame.
I bet this name choice will impact users.. noone wants to use a desktop with the name "Frilly Red Panty GNOME", Ximian is worse.
I'm not pretending, you really are stupid. I said, I KNOW ITS ILLEGAL, AND, I know it's not OK, BUT. It's OK with _me_ and all of the napster users, and anyone who has downloaded an mp3 of a commercial song. This isn't bullshit, these are facts, you may have a problem with it, tough shit. Good for you if you can stop it happening.
And, no I wouldn't be O.K with it, but that isn't what I said is it now?
It's not free. And it's completely illegal, but it's there, and the opennap SERVERS don't/wont try to charge for their illegal service (or try to make it legal). So I (like all the other napster users) will abuse this until it's taken down and we're all forced to use freenet or something like it.
When there are FREE and better alternatives, yes it IS a stupid idea.
Sellouts.. I know I wont be paying for napster. Thats for damn sure.. besides, theres all those opennap servers ... :)
Anyone looking for a good MUD, telnet allanthya.org 4000 Well balanced, plenty of zones/eq/etc.
Ummm..... try debian (if you haven't) all your issues with rpm will be gone.
There ARE howtos on compiling stuff/installing software.. so, stfu.
I think the reason Linux seems to clone everything is because it's based on unix - which exists in one way or another - and people want it to stay unix. Any major changes would have to mean a fork(because we can't abandon our great unix model..) - the developers either dont want change, or know that any changes they do make will just be wasted effort because Linus simply wont include them if they change Linux's way of thinking (unix unix unix) - any that actually go forward with the changes would have to fork. Not that Linus is doing a bad job, he has to keep everything sane after all, and radical changes would mean a very very slow release cycle due to introduced bugs, etc. etc.
A fork could be good for it. We could have server and desktop (although I can't see Linux getting anywhere on the Desktop while XFree86 is .. XFree86) being developed seperately, so the release cycle/features of each wouldn't affect the other.
And yes, I know this wont happen - but wouldn't it be nice?
dselect is already being replaced
so you can all stop whining about it and install the alternatives
aptitude and console-apt replace it
there is even gnome-apt(but it sucks.. sort by category, NOT letter *hint hint*)
(Yes i know debian still uses dselect on install, but you dont _have_ to do that.)
Agreed, they're out for blood this time.