> You can't help but think that this is the way all programmng will be done in the future.
Well, I guess you might not be able to if you're retarded.
This visual programming crap crops up from time to time partly because so many people are brainwashed by that crap about a picture being worth a 1000 words. Draw me a picture of "misguided". We give children picture books while they are learning to read - they find them more intuitive than regular books, but that doesnt make them better.
Programming is done with languages because programming is communication. It's communication between programmer and computer.
The trouble with GUI interfaces is that they are predisposed towards the computer transfering information to the human. They are not an efficient mechanism for humans to transfer information to the computer. There is a good mechanism for this - one that has been used for millenia and which our brains have even evolved to use effectively.The power of language is that the range of choices grows exponentially with the length of the expression.
It's wrong in a third way too. In the long run, a lot of the smart jobs have a depend upon manufacturing and one can only get away with outsourcing the physical "low-skill" stuff and keeping the design and services stuff for a limited period. There's a feedback loop, one learns different skill sets on the factory floor and the low level requirements drive higher levels (design/engineering just to start with). A university which dismissed all its experimental physicists because the experimental was considered lower status than the theoretical might gain a temporary bump in prestige (if one went along with the analogy of it being lower status) but it would not remain a top class institution for very long. The loss of manufacturing is going to hurt in the medium term and be a total disaster in the long run, whatever market theory says.
> billion years of evolution of what is now the state of the art for converting sunlight to energy
No, evolution's 'aim' was the propagation of its own dna. Our aims are different so its not unreasonable to suppose we can improve upon what evolution did when we're actively trying to achieve it while for evolution it was an incidental side effect.
The Laffer curve is a truly amazing thing to take seriously. A graph drawn from two data points. Everything in the middle is interpolated. Where is the top of that graph.. nobody knows.
> You do realize that even though it's called the finance industry, it doesn't actually output raw units of finance, right? It's not just a bunch of douchebags sitting in front of computer monitors speculating and earning money on the market
The first statement there is wrong. The finance industry very much does output raw units of finance, primarily through the use of fractional reserve banking. As for the second statement, I have several good friends in the industry so I'm reluctant to call them douchebags. I just don't respect their choice of profession as much as if they had done something more beneficial to society, like dealing smack. We could do with a lot less of the money in circulation being invented in the form of debt. The cost of the invented money is distributed through society (in the form of inflation etc) while the benefits are disproportionately concentrated in the finance industry. This is not the only possible way of doing things. Take a look at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grip-Death-Slavery-Destructive-Economics/dp/1897766408 for a good rant about this. My understanding of this subject is not great: I'm not a professional but I have had extended conversations with bankers who very much are professionals and I'm lot less wrong now than I used to be when my thinking was like yours.
> The "bankers" didn't "bankrupt the public purse".
The banks came to the brink of destroying the entire global economy. The bailouts saved the entire banking industry, as they were all ludicrously over-leveraged. Without the bailout they would have fallen like dominoes as they all had assets with each other. You're right.. they are private institutions and should not be allowed to be in this position. Any bank which is too big to fail needs to be split up.
Public anger against the banks has barely begun as the ill effects of what they were (and still are) doing is only just beginning to sink in. Forget about a bonus tax, what we need is, say, 90% of the money paid to the investment banking industry in the last 5 years to be reclaimed. We need to see senior bankers doing jail time before the truth of the situation is widely known otherwise we will lynchings and fire-bombs instead.
> more to unleash the wave of democratization hitting north Africa than any other single individual Sorry, I meant to add, except for the guy who set himself on fire.
The cables weren't the reason, but they *were* the catalyst.
The unrest started in Tunisia as protests against the ruler's immediate family who were making out like bandits. The corruption had long been known about (it wasnt subtle) but the spark was the wikileaks release which showed a bunch of cables from US embassy in Tunisia that detailed the corruption. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/02/wikileaks-exclusive-book-extract The government responded by shutting down wikileaks access which resulted in Anonymous group taking action against official Tunisian government sites and defacing them (with the same cables, amongst other things) which also had a pronounced and under reported effect on people's urge to actually protest.
So, Bradley Manning has probably done more to unleash the wave of democratization hitting north Africa than any other single individual. That doesn't make what he did legal but if everyone stuck to what was legal, we would all be living as serfs to feudal barons.
Its different in the UK. Here, if they ask for papers you can tell them no, at which point they would have to arrest you (and 'not giving papers' doesnt count as grounds for arrest) or they can fuck off. The policeman is not going to get in trouble for asking for your papers, or even for lying about your requirement to hand them over, but if you know your rights you can tell them no and they normally give in at that stage.
Creating software is difficult and expensive unless you can get highly skilled and sought after developers to work for free. This happens more often than one would expect but only if there is something in it for them, such as fun, kudos or a promise of future profits. The fun bit is a lot easier to manage on some types of software than others which is why you will find 1000 decent free mp3 managers but a lot less in the way of good free time and attendance systems with all the necessary tedious business process integration working properly. If you think software is stupidly expensive you are free to create it and sell it more cheaply if you such a genius, but after you've sunk a few million dollars in software development you might have more sympathy for the 'proprietary vendors trying to artificially inflate prices'. How do they do that exactly anyway ? The only thing they can do is offer it for a certain price, if you don't want to buy it, you don't have to.
Best thing to take to a lecture is your brain. Leave everything else behind, even paper. What's the point in taking notes, unless you're one of those strange people who only remember stuff they write down. Use the lecture period to actually try and understand wtf it is you are supposed to know rather than as an exercise in transcription then you can use the time you would have spent reading the damn notes doing something more important (like going to the pub).
I agree there didn't seem to be anything earth shattering in his revelations, it was after all only sensitive material, nothing top-secret. The stuff showing the US would routinely ignore evidence of war crimes is embarrassing. The day to day realities of occupying a hostile country mean there's a lot of day to day nastiness, but in many ways the only surprise were that the revelations weren't more embarrassing than they are.
The notion that it put our troops at danger is dubious at best. The pentagon was offered the chance to redact anything that would have endangered personnel and refused, which means either scoring political points by refusing to cooperate was more important than the lives of a few troops/allies or that there was nothing that endangered them in there.
He added: "Nevertheless, the point about Wikileaks undermining the safety of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan would have some validity, if only it wasn't such a humongous vat of liquidised monkey-shit from start to finish.
"Because - and you might want to write this down and keep it somewhere safe - the key thing that has undermined the safety of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan is them firing their big fucking guns at Iraqis and Afghans.
I am pretty much certain that the framers of the US constitution would have a hell of a lot more sympathy for Bradley Manning than they would for you. When an individual notices their government behaving in a way that makes them ashamed to be part of it then exposing that information to the public in order to try and encourage better behaviour is the action of a true patriot. I agree that he will probably lose his life or his liberty as a consequence of this, what he did was illegal just as what the framers of the constitution did was illegal according to the laws of George III, but then again, a lot of the behaviour he exposed was illegal too. America was created by people who defied the law of the time to fight for what they thought was right. People like you would certainly have sided with the 'powers that be' of the time and would have been on the other side.
Your logic reported you to the UN for torturing it. Besides, if you really think soliders aren't capable of, and encouraged to, think of shooting someone in a warzone as an almost orgasmic experience, you really need to talk to a few more soldiers.
Actually, they do in a way. Look up jury nullification. Certain people don't like it but its one of the few functioning forms of democracy we have left.
> Your advice comes down to: avoid pre-marital sex
Fuck you. My guess is either you are a born again Christian or the kind of guy who can't get laid anyway so pretends its about a moral 'high ground' rather than admitting to being a loser.
I really think people should avoid pre-sexual marriage. If people got laid enough before choosing a life partner there would be fewer divorces and fucked-up children around, the world would be a better place.
I've been reading/. for a decade or so and this is the least comprehensible serious post that wasnt deliberately trying to be hard to understand that I can remember
I love FLTK, I really do, but.. I dunno, now PySide is around I might have to go over to Qt..just seems that fltk progress is a little glacial and pyFLTK has not been updated since 2009. C++ for everything seems a little painful these days
How many times must this trite crap get repeated. "Think you own your body ? Try not eating for 3 months and see what happens. Its the agriculture corps that own your body". How long do you think you would be able to keep your land if there was no government ?
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Thanks for that link, it is the funniest thing I've read for a long time.
I always thought ipads were offal
> Google Chrome opens one process per tab? That's a new one for me - I could have sworn it used threads, not processes.
Wrong: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MicrosoftIE8AndGoogleChromeProcessesAreTheNewThreads.aspx
> You can't help but think that this is the way all programmng will be done in the future.
Well, I guess you might not be able to if you're retarded.
This visual programming crap crops up from time to time partly because so many people are brainwashed by that crap about a picture being worth a 1000 words. Draw me a picture of "misguided". We give children picture books while they are learning to read - they find them more intuitive than regular books, but that doesnt make them better.
Programming is done with languages because programming is communication. It's communication between programmer and computer.
The trouble with GUI interfaces is that they are predisposed towards the computer transfering information to the human. They are not an efficient mechanism for humans to transfer information to the computer. There is a good mechanism for this - one that has been used for millenia and which our brains have even evolved to use effectively.The power of language is that the range of choices grows exponentially with the length of the expression.
> I used to love Discovery and the History channel.
You must know a lot about sharks and nazis.
It's wrong in a third way too. In the long run, a lot of the smart jobs have a depend upon manufacturing and one can only get away with outsourcing the physical "low-skill" stuff and keeping the design and services stuff for a limited period. There's a feedback loop, one learns different skill sets on the factory floor and the low level requirements drive higher levels (design/engineering just to start with). A university which dismissed all its experimental physicists because the experimental was considered lower status than the theoretical might gain a temporary bump in prestige (if one went along with the analogy of it being lower status) but it would not remain a top class institution for very long. The loss of manufacturing is going to hurt in the medium term and be a total disaster in the long run, whatever market theory says.
> billion years of evolution of what is now the state of the art for converting sunlight to energy
No, evolution's 'aim' was the propagation of its own dna. Our aims are different so its not unreasonable to suppose we can improve upon what evolution did when we're actively trying to achieve it while for evolution it was an incidental side effect.
The Laffer curve is a truly amazing thing to take seriously. A graph drawn from two data points. Everything in the middle is interpolated. Where is the top of that graph.. nobody knows.
> ever since Cambridge University was founded by rapists escaping from Oxford
Could I get a reference on that please ?
> You do realize that even though it's called the finance industry, it doesn't actually output raw units of finance, right? It's not just a bunch of douchebags sitting in front of computer monitors speculating and earning money on the market
The first statement there is wrong. The finance industry very much does output raw units of finance, primarily through the use of fractional reserve banking. As for the second statement, I have several good friends in the industry so I'm reluctant to call them douchebags. I just don't respect their choice of profession as much as if they had done something more beneficial to society, like dealing smack. We could do with a lot less of the money in circulation being invented in the form of debt. The cost of the invented money is distributed through society (in the form of inflation etc) while the benefits are disproportionately concentrated in the finance industry. This is not the only possible way of doing things. Take a look at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grip-Death-Slavery-Destructive-Economics/dp/1897766408 for a good rant about this. My understanding of this subject is not great: I'm not a professional but I have had extended conversations with bankers who very much are professionals and I'm lot less wrong now than I used to be when my thinking was like yours.
> The "bankers" didn't "bankrupt the public purse".
The banks came to the brink of destroying the entire global economy. The bailouts saved the entire banking industry, as they were all ludicrously over-leveraged. Without the bailout they would have fallen like dominoes as they all had assets with each other. You're right.. they are private institutions and should not be allowed to be in this position. Any bank which is too big to fail needs to be split up.
Public anger against the banks has barely begun as the ill effects of what they were (and still are) doing is only just beginning to sink in. Forget about a bonus tax, what we need is, say, 90% of the money paid to the investment banking industry in the last 5 years to be reclaimed. We need to see senior bankers doing jail time before the truth of the situation is widely known otherwise we will lynchings and fire-bombs instead.
> more to unleash the wave of democratization hitting north Africa than any other single individual
Sorry, I meant to add, except for the guy who set himself on fire.
The cables weren't the reason, but they *were* the catalyst.
The unrest started in Tunisia as protests against the ruler's immediate family who were making out like bandits. The corruption had long been known about (it wasnt subtle) but the spark was the wikileaks release which showed a bunch of cables from US embassy in Tunisia that detailed the corruption. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/02/wikileaks-exclusive-book-extract
The government responded by shutting down wikileaks access which resulted in Anonymous group taking action against official Tunisian government sites and defacing them (with the same cables, amongst other things) which also had a pronounced and under reported effect on people's urge to actually protest.
So, Bradley Manning has probably done more to unleash the wave of democratization hitting north Africa than any other single individual. That doesn't make what he did legal but if everyone stuck to what was legal, we would all be living as serfs to feudal barons.
Loads of nokias can do that. The s60 ssh client is better than the android one imho and you get to use a physical keyboard.
Its different in the UK. Here, if they ask for papers you can tell them no, at which point they would have to arrest you (and 'not giving papers' doesnt count as grounds for arrest) or they can fuck off. The policeman is not going to get in trouble for asking for your papers, or even for lying about your requirement to hand them over, but if you know your rights you can tell them no and they normally give in at that stage.
Software sales are 99% profit.
Creating software is difficult and expensive unless you can get highly skilled and sought after developers to work for free. This happens more often than one would expect but only if there is something in it for them, such as fun, kudos or a promise of future profits. The fun bit is a lot easier to manage on some types of software than others which is why you will find 1000 decent free mp3 managers but a lot less in the way of good free time and attendance systems with all the necessary tedious business process integration working properly. If you think software is stupidly expensive you are free to create it and sell it more cheaply if you such a genius, but after you've sunk a few million dollars in software development you might have more sympathy for the 'proprietary vendors trying to artificially inflate prices'. How do they do that exactly anyway ? The only thing they can do is offer it for a certain price, if you don't want to buy it, you don't have to.
Best thing to take to a lecture is your brain. Leave everything else behind, even paper. What's the point in taking notes, unless you're one of those strange people who only remember stuff they write down. Use the lecture period to actually try and understand wtf it is you are supposed to know rather than as an exercise in transcription then you can use the time you would have spent reading the damn notes doing something more important (like going to the pub).
I agree there didn't seem to be anything earth shattering in his revelations, it was after all only sensitive material, nothing top-secret. The stuff showing the US would routinely ignore evidence of war crimes is embarrassing. The day to day realities of occupying a hostile country mean there's a lot of day to day nastiness, but in many ways the only surprise were that the revelations weren't more embarrassing than they are.
The notion that it put our troops at danger is dubious at best. The pentagon was offered the chance to redact anything that would have endangered personnel and refused, which means either scoring political points by refusing to cooperate was more important than the lives of a few troops/allies or that there was nothing that endangered them in there.
From http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/unmanned-wikileaks-drone-destroys-afghan-village-201011293295/
He added: "Nevertheless, the point about Wikileaks undermining the safety of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan would have some validity, if only it wasn't such a humongous vat of liquidised monkey-shit from start to finish.
"Because - and you might want to write this down and keep it somewhere safe - the key thing that has undermined the safety of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan is them firing their big fucking guns at Iraqis and Afghans.
I am pretty much certain that the framers of the US constitution would have a hell of a lot more sympathy for Bradley Manning than they would for you. When an individual notices their government behaving in a way that makes them ashamed to be part of it then exposing that information to the public in order to try and encourage better behaviour is the action of a true patriot. I agree that he will probably lose his life or his liberty as a consequence of this, what he did was illegal just as what the framers of the constitution did was illegal according to the laws of George III, but then again, a lot of the behaviour he exposed was illegal too. America was created by people who defied the law of the time to fight for what they thought was right. People like you would certainly have sided with the 'powers that be' of the time and would have been on the other side.
Your logic reported you to the UN for torturing it. Besides, if you really think soliders aren't capable of, and encouraged to, think of shooting someone in a warzone as an almost orgasmic experience, you really need to talk to a few more soldiers.
Actually, they do in a way. Look up jury nullification. Certain people don't like it but its one of the few functioning forms of democracy we have left.
> Your advice comes down to: avoid pre-marital sex
Fuck you. My guess is either you are a born again Christian or the kind of guy who can't get laid anyway so pretends its about a moral 'high ground' rather than admitting to being a loser.
I really think people should avoid pre-sexual marriage. If people got laid enough before choosing a life partner there would be fewer divorces and fucked-up children around, the world would be a better place.
Congratulations.
I've been reading /. for a decade or so and this is the least comprehensible serious post that wasnt deliberately trying to be hard to understand that I can remember
I love FLTK, I really do, but .. I dunno, now PySide is around I might have to go over to Qt..just seems that fltk progress is a little glacial and pyFLTK has not been updated since 2009. C++ for everything seems a little painful these days
How many times must this trite crap get repeated. "Think you own your body ? Try not eating for 3 months and see what happens. Its the agriculture corps that own your body". How long do you think you would be able to keep your land if there was no government ?