Well...I wouldn't call anyone I know who'd willinly listen to Linkin Park a geek (You troll) but a while back Moby claimed that because his audience was internet-savy, he was losing sales to file sharing. And if an artist like Moby had copy protected CDs, it'd probably be on/. as news, and he would lose even more sales. The result: An already alienated audience is going to turn increasingly to filesharing the more music companies try to account for "lost sales" to file sharing. All most people want is a CD. A good ole CD.
I don't mean to sound like a troll, but what are you using? Downloading entire albums is as easy as the fear mongers would like the public to believe.
1) Go to www.allmusic.com 2) Enter artist 3) Select Desired Album 4) Fire up Kazaa Lite (you are running the lite version...if not....go to www.alltheweb.com and search for "kazaa lite" and select the 4th or 5th hit to dl it for free) 5) Search Kazaa and set a min. bitrate @ "192". 6) Download and enjoy.
Sure, occasionally...very rarely, you'll find that one song that isn't perfectly ripped, but a quick re-search and you'll find a better version from another user. Kazaa lite (I don't know about the "regular" version) also has a digital signature tool so user's can see if someone's vouched for its "integrity" or not. And if Kazaa isn't your thing, there's always IRC. I'll never understand why, but there's "ripping clans" that are always trying to get the best rip of a CD distributed online before its release. And they use CDex. So their rips rock.
Oh, and that "higher quality bottled water" (if there is such a thing) probably doesn't contain any floride. So that "higher quality" will promotes a smile only a british mother could love. Enjoy:)
While the implications of Microsoft being able to leverage ("embrace and extend") any built in DRM/CRM (Digital Rights Management/Content Rights Management) is disturbing, what worse is that companies are going to jump all over this kind of technology. It literally allows the company to control information from CEO right down to the mailboy's desktop. To a corporation that doesn't respect/trust/value its employees, this technology is a godsend, up there with keystroke loggers.
What's worse, is it will allow corporations to act with even more impunity. Microsoft isn't the only corporation whose business model could stand to gain something through DRM. They're talking about restricting what a person can do with data -- including preventing that "We're Dead if this thing shows up in court" memo from being printed by a Whistleblower.
Letting corporations act solely in their best interest, and preventing the individual from counter acting in his, is a dire formula for a free society.
I know people here on/. aren't Apple Lovers, but this is a semi-respectable business that is actually starting to put something that their busines model is based on, out on the net for everyone to see. Now if we could get them to post all the MacOS specific code, we'd be set.
I am using Mozilla right now (on a macintosh). Milestone 8. It has been the only stable version on my macintosh. Milestone 7 crashed the whole system (8.6, which is VERY stable) due to illegal operations while expanding itself. Milestone 9 took five minutes to load, only to quit with "illegal instruction". M8 longer to load then my system to boot!!! I'm 200MHz with 88Megs RAM. Its not great, but Nav. 4.0 loads in under 5 seconds. I'm not going to wait 4 minutes everytime I want to browse the web. Not to mention it can't open up multiple windows. Yes, when I browsed with it, pages loaded really really fast. But the windowing toolkit for M8 looked like crap, and the widgets and outstanding bugs made it look HORRIBLE. If they don't improve their code base very very rapidly by M11, it won't be release-quality, not even by NETSCAPE's standards!
Don't "Think Mozilla" (I tried to. On a mac, it means endless waiting and reboots for otherwise stable systems)
Think Opera. Or iCab. In Today's web, you have to page for a good browser.
YES! I've been waiting for someone to meniton smalltalk-80. Schools wouldn't even have to purchase any software...an open source smalltalk-80 environment is availible at www.squeak.org. Squeak beats java in functionality and portability (it runs on everything!) its syntax is far, far simpler then any language, and infintely more powerful! You can learn the language in a day. It can update itself over the web, comes with an email client, web browser, IRC client, its own windowing environment, can do 3D stuff via Alice..... Squeak has been overlooked, IMHO.
Telos IV, Alpha Quadrant The United Galaxy Federation suffered an incredibly blow, which lead to its distruction, today on Gikbol, in the year QQFH#. Amazingly, a species of Life know as "Humans" in their own langugae, planned an 85 year sneak attack of what surprizinly annoying message. Our SPAM(tm) shields, erected when the Earthings TV signals were first sent out into space, were not prepared for a half-watt transmission of death. "I can't believe what happened," spoke councilmen Sith, "One moment, we were deciding to investigate a certain trade federations occupation of Naboo, when all of the sudden, our terminals lit up, offering us free samples of a superpotency drug, guarenteeing sexual powers, at http://www.viagrasuperstore.com." "We all believed that we would be masters in bed...and we rushed out to buy this viagra, or spend money on a get-rich-tomorrow." The UGF reign of honesty, peace, justice, exploration, and compassion has now ended. However, Taco Bell's rule of the galazy is expected to last just as long, and with more product placement then you'll care to tolerate.
I'm going to be a senoir in High School (Lewisburg PA, whoppie!) with the intention of going into Computer Engineering (CE). CE has little to do with "New Media", so I'm asking all the CE's in the world for help. Email me. I'm on my 5th college course (I also take College CS courses while in HS). My email is intern_boy_chris@yahoo.com Let me know how the market is like. I'm too confused by all these comments!
Isn't that what Microsoft has really been doing all along until they essentially bought out Apple?
Actually, its a non-voting stake, so they have no control over Apple. At the time, Apple had 4 billion in assets. Do you really think a quick $150 mil means anything when you've got 4 billion? Apple sold a non-voting piece to get office, get support, and to drive their stock back up. And yes, that cash was also part payment for the ~$500-700 mil of Patent Infringements MS was found guilty of (can't rip off tech and get away with it...oh wait...you can...) So please, if you learn anything from this comment, its that you shouldn't post on/. when you're only knowledge of computers came from Pirates of the Silicon Valley.
The WRONG reason for releaseing code is for publicity. That is nasty behaviour. I'm sure we will see a lot of companies doing this as the buzz around open source continues to grow.
Actually, I think its a great idea. Open Source by itself isn't "powerful". Not any more powerful then a "closed source" project. But the hype will encourage companies to do something about their products other then ship early. As the open source trend grows, we should (hopefully) see an emphasis on the quality of the product, weather it came from open or closed source methods. Also, doing "the right job" will be more important then, "doing the right thing." The right job isn't just creating hype, but following it up. Followthrough it how you measure a companies commitment to the OSS Community. If they put the tarballs up as well as the press releases, then its all good. If it takes them a week and half to get the CVS server running, not so good. We need a form of media so that if companies don't have followthrough, they get chastised until they do, or print a retraction and apology to the OSS community. Just my $.02
Acutally, I don't know if this is true, but I've heard from external developers that MacOS 10 WAS being benchmarked the whole time it was inside Apple, and against LinuxPPC. And it was winning when it was released. Mainly, this is because they chose to optimize it for G3 only. Their Mach Kernal is so fine tuned it is only a 5-8% slowdown, and their hardware integration is supposedly excellent. And it is questionable at best if will able to optimize/tune Darwin as much because if I remember another/. posting, Apple didn't post the changes they made to the BSD gcc compiler, so there's no telling what kind of performance MacOS 10 gives unless we benchmark it out of the box. I dunno. I just lost my train of thought. All in all, the more Decent OSes we get that can compeate against Windows, the better. Are you afraid of us yet, Bill?
It may be a bit early to celebrate. Apple hindered adoption of their OS initiave here with the first version of the liscense. Also, the "new technology", which might've compelled linux users to try it, or at least develop for it, remains proprietary, and closed-sourced. I'm a die hard mac fan, so no flames please, but what value can OS 10 offer to the Linux community, besides idealogical support from the sidelines?
On a personal note, I think its about damn time they did this! Now people need to start rolling their own OS X distro, and get a BlueBox (sheepshaver?) running as a low-end, unsupported version for people like me, with obsolete macs.
Excuse me in all my ignorance, for I left the micrsoft world behind a long time ago, but as a part time mac user (PowerPC hardware is GREAT for linux, IMHO) I remember reading some annoucement that MPv4 (MP being MPEG) was going to be based off of Quicktime. Or it mentioned the "QuickTime File Format" (which is ambigous as it gets, considering how many formats are considered to be part of 'quicktime') Correct me if I'm wrong, and email me your opinions, but not your flames.
-Overpriced -Overweight/bloated -unreliable -crash more frequently (of course, part of this is due to the higher rate of clueless posers drawn to all the shiny chrome)
Yes...it is the windoze of Motorcycles. Get a crotch rocket. Or anything that has that attribute called 'handling'
I have something in the works, and thank god I didn't release it in its current condidtion. Its not that I don't agree with this essay...because I can't agree....this article has no major point...I can see it filed under "advocacy", but it really doesn't present anything, or prove anything.
Sure, Flame me. But it is my opinion..there are good reasons for linux, there are good essays, but this one needs a little work.
Mainly because this year, those of us with some sense in our heads, realize its VERY inappropriate to celebrate president's day with a mattress sale :)
My friend whose a major linux user on the intel side says that this is hack, like MonekeyLinux, a version of linux that will run on FAT32 drives, but will take a performance hit, but otherwise will be a fully functional version of linux, but no one uses it anymore because they can get Partition Magic, and MonkeyLinux is slow, and is "a hack".
What I want to know is this: Is this just a demo? Can I actually make this usuable, in the sense that I make the HD really big (it mentions a requirement of 105+ Megs) like a 500MB partition? Can I use swap? How functional is this? And does anyone know if LinuxPPC will supoort these "Live" versions? Some of us can't/won't repartition for an OS, even if the want/need it. For example, I share my computer with other people, and currently, 60% of all the documents are theirs. I can't repartition with something like Partition Magic, because no Macintosh Equvilant exists. Or does it? I am planning on getting this, because I like to program for linux (its easy to learn, and such a powerful development environment) and willing to live with the performance hit if I can just have LinuxPPC use a big HD image on my HFS Hard Drive. Does anyone know if they are planning on keeping this alive? And making it usable? It is either this, or re-installing Virtual PC and then installing linux over windoze95, and believe me, the performance hit of VirtualPC is big...while Linux (native code) wouldn't be.
I don't want to clog up slashdot with your replys. Reply to the fake email address above, but take out the "nospam" part. Thanks for any/all info.
First off, not even ROB would pass. Hey, wait, Apple is trashing its competitors. Instead of being unbiased, lets bash them, and Spread FUD. Rob/CmdrTaco -- this is my message to you -- Fuck off. Go somewhere else. Do we laugh patetically at GNOME and KDE in your face, at your site? No, we don't. If you don't see a use for it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to. But some people prefer using Apple's Disk Image format rather then attachments. Thank you. That is all.
Now that ApplixWarePPC is out, many LinuxPPC users can be productive without having to reboot into MacOS. This can only be a good thing. Soon, as more and more Productivity software becomes availible for either/any platform, it'll be harder to spread FUD agaisnt linux being say..."counterproductive" or "unsupported" (if enough applications are supported, then it doesn't matter if the OS is..) or any stupid FUD like "opaque".
No one has ever forced to buy mac. Mac doesn't own 95% of the desktop market. Your arguement is completely invalid. That is like stating that Amiga was a monopoly because DOS wouldn't run on it properly (or at all..it used a 68K chip like early macs, rather then an x86)
When you pay that "inflated price", you're paying for the hardware. Which, because Apple's hardware is the best (next to Alphas and SGI MIPS that is), you should expect to pay top dollar. They've always had performance years ahead of their wintel counterparts. The OS costs you nothing at all. This is true because the OS is what is selling the hardware...not the other way around. Also, Apple has announced that they're embracing linux -- you will be able to order BTO PowerMacs with Linux running on them...
Oh, and BeOS does run on a G3. The bug wasn't Apple being proprietary, which I remind you it has every right to be, but Be was being stupid, and Apple did have a bug in their OpenFirmWare....screw beOS It, there's an OS that will never succeed. It just takes them longer to develop for G3s then it does for x86.
The difference is this: PSX for windoze practically requires a Voodoo II 3dfx card...CVGS will require an iMac or better....and its more playable and polished, because its 99% PowerPC assembly....but we'll see how it is in the reviews....just my 2 cents
Again, another "Open Source advocate" who doesn't read the darn press release...
Its hand coded PowerPC 750 Assembly! You probably don't even know anything about Macs, much less PowerPC assembly....what good would Open Source do....by the time your guys could understand it, port it, and optimize it, Moore's law will have made that all irrelevant, for by raw speed alone, you'll be able to play it.
Well...I wouldn't call anyone I know who'd willinly listen to Linkin Park a geek (You troll) but a while back Moby claimed that because his audience was internet-savy, he was losing sales to file sharing. And if an artist like Moby had copy protected CDs, it'd probably be on /. as news, and he would lose even more sales. The result: An already alienated audience is going to turn increasingly to filesharing the more music companies try to account for "lost sales" to file sharing. All most people want is a CD. A good ole CD.
I don't mean to sound like a troll, but what are you using?
:)
Downloading entire albums is as easy as the fear mongers would like the public to believe.
1) Go to www.allmusic.com
2) Enter artist
3) Select Desired Album
4) Fire up Kazaa Lite (you are running the lite version...if not....go to www.alltheweb.com and search for "kazaa lite" and select the 4th or 5th hit to dl it for free)
5) Search Kazaa and set a min. bitrate @ "192".
6) Download and enjoy.
Sure, occasionally...very rarely, you'll find that one song that isn't perfectly ripped, but a quick re-search and you'll find a better version from another user. Kazaa lite (I don't know about the "regular" version) also has a digital signature tool so user's can see if someone's vouched for its "integrity" or not. And if Kazaa isn't your thing, there's always IRC. I'll never understand why, but there's "ripping clans" that are always trying to get the best rip of a CD distributed online before its release. And they use CDex. So their rips rock.
Oh, and that "higher quality bottled water" (if there is such a thing) probably doesn't contain any floride. So that "higher quality" will promotes a smile only a british mother could love. Enjoy
While the implications of Microsoft being able to leverage ("embrace and extend") any built in DRM/CRM (Digital Rights Management/Content Rights Management) is disturbing, what worse is that companies are going to jump all over this kind of technology. It literally allows the company to control information from CEO right down to the mailboy's desktop. To a corporation that doesn't respect/trust/value its employees, this technology is a godsend, up there with keystroke loggers.
What's worse, is it will allow corporations to act with even more impunity. Microsoft isn't the only corporation whose business model could stand to gain something through DRM. They're talking about restricting what a person can do with data -- including preventing that "We're Dead if this thing shows up in court" memo from being printed by a Whistleblower.
Letting corporations act solely in their best interest, and preventing the individual from counter acting in his, is a dire formula for a free society.
I know people here on /. aren't Apple Lovers, but this is a semi-respectable business that is actually starting to put something that their busines model is based on, out on the net for everyone to see. Now if we could get them to post all the MacOS specific code, we'd be set.
Sorry, in that last tagline I meant to say:
In today's web, you have to PAY for a decent web browser (or use Scamper, via Squeak.org's sm-80 IDE)
Long live the republic!
I am using Mozilla right now (on a macintosh). Milestone 8.
It has been the only stable version on my macintosh. Milestone 7 crashed the whole system (8.6, which is VERY stable) due to illegal operations while expanding itself. Milestone 9 took five minutes to load, only to quit with "illegal instruction". M8 longer to load then my system to boot!!! I'm 200MHz with 88Megs RAM. Its not great, but Nav. 4.0 loads in under 5 seconds. I'm not going to wait 4 minutes everytime I want to browse the web. Not to mention it can't open up multiple windows.
Yes, when I browsed with it, pages loaded really really fast. But the windowing toolkit for M8 looked like crap, and the widgets and outstanding bugs made it look HORRIBLE.
If they don't improve their code base very very rapidly by M11, it won't be release-quality, not even by NETSCAPE's standards!
Don't "Think Mozilla" (I tried to. On a mac, it means endless waiting and reboots for otherwise stable systems)
Think Opera. Or iCab. In Today's web, you have to page for a good browser.
YES! I've been waiting for someone to meniton smalltalk-80. Schools wouldn't even have to purchase any software...an open source smalltalk-80 environment is availible at www.squeak.org.
Squeak beats java in functionality and portability (it runs on everything!) its syntax is far, far simpler then any language, and infintely more powerful! You can learn the language in a day. It can update itself over the web, comes with an email client, web browser, IRC client, its own windowing environment, can do 3D stuff via Alice.....
Squeak has been overlooked, IMHO.
Telos IV, Alpha Quadrant
The United Galaxy Federation suffered an incredibly blow, which lead to its distruction, today on Gikbol, in the year QQFH#.
Amazingly, a species of Life know as "Humans" in their own langugae, planned an 85 year sneak attack of what surprizinly annoying message. Our SPAM(tm) shields, erected when the Earthings TV signals were first sent out into space, were not prepared for a half-watt transmission of death.
"I can't believe what happened," spoke councilmen Sith, "One moment, we were deciding to investigate a certain trade federations occupation of Naboo, when all of the sudden, our terminals lit up, offering us free samples of a superpotency drug, guarenteeing sexual powers, at http://www.viagrasuperstore.com."
"We all believed that we would be masters in bed...and we rushed out to buy this viagra, or spend money on a get-rich-tomorrow."
The UGF reign of honesty, peace, justice, exploration, and compassion has now ended.
However, Taco Bell's rule of the galazy is expected to last just as long, and with more product placement then you'll care to tolerate.
I'm going to be a senoir in High School (Lewisburg PA, whoppie!) with the intention of going into Computer Engineering (CE). CE has little to do with "New Media", so I'm asking all the CE's in the world for help. Email me. I'm on my 5th college course (I also take College CS courses while in HS).
My email is intern_boy_chris@yahoo.com
Let me know how the market is like. I'm too confused by all these comments!
Isn't that what Microsoft has really been doing all along until they essentially bought out Apple?
/. when you're only knowledge of computers came from Pirates of the Silicon Valley.
Actually, its a non-voting stake, so they have no control over Apple. At the time, Apple had 4 billion in assets. Do you really think a quick $150 mil means anything when you've got 4 billion?
Apple sold a non-voting piece to get office, get support, and to drive their stock back up. And yes, that cash was also part payment for the ~$500-700 mil of Patent Infringements MS was found guilty of (can't rip off tech and get away with it...oh wait...you can...)
So please, if you learn anything from this comment, its that you shouldn't post on
The WRONG reason for releaseing code is for publicity. That is nasty behaviour. I'm sure we will see a lot of companies doing this as the buzz around open source continues to grow.
Actually, I think its a great idea. Open Source by itself isn't "powerful". Not any more powerful then a "closed source" project. But the hype will encourage companies to do something about their products other then ship early. As the open source trend grows, we should (hopefully) see an emphasis on the quality of the product, weather it came from open or closed source methods. Also, doing "the right job" will be more important then, "doing the right thing." The right job isn't just creating hype, but following it up. Followthrough it how you measure a companies commitment to the OSS Community. If they put the tarballs up as well as the press releases, then its all good. If it takes them a week and half to get the CVS server running, not so good.
We need a form of media so that if companies don't have followthrough, they get chastised until they do, or print a retraction and apology to the OSS community.
Just my $.02
You know, they annouced the MacOS Star Office last year. Never ever saw it released. Any news on MacOS or LinuxPPC ports that EXIST?
Acutally, I don't know if this is true, but I've heard from external developers that MacOS 10 WAS being benchmarked the whole time it was inside Apple, and against LinuxPPC. And it was winning when it was released. /. posting, Apple didn't post the changes they made to the BSD gcc compiler, so there's no telling what kind of performance MacOS 10 gives unless we benchmark it out of the box.
Mainly, this is because they chose to optimize it for G3 only. Their Mach Kernal is so fine tuned it is only a 5-8% slowdown, and their hardware integration is supposedly excellent. And it is questionable at best if will able to optimize/tune Darwin as much because if I remember another
I dunno. I just lost my train of thought.
All in all, the more Decent OSes we get that can compeate against Windows, the better.
Are you afraid of us yet, Bill?
It may be a bit early to celebrate. Apple hindered adoption of their OS initiave here with the first version of the liscense. Also, the "new technology", which might've compelled linux users to try it, or at least develop for it, remains proprietary, and closed-sourced.
I'm a die hard mac fan, so no flames please, but what value can OS 10 offer to the Linux community, besides idealogical support from the sidelines?
On a personal note, I think its about damn time they did this! Now people need to start rolling their own OS X distro, and get a BlueBox (sheepshaver?) running as a low-end, unsupported version for people like me, with obsolete macs.
Excuse me in all my ignorance, for I left the micrsoft world behind a long time ago, but as a part time mac user (PowerPC hardware is GREAT for linux, IMHO) I remember reading some annoucement that MPv4 (MP being MPEG) was going to be based off of Quicktime. Or it mentioned the "QuickTime File Format" (which is ambigous as it gets, considering how many formats are considered to be part of 'quicktime')
Correct me if I'm wrong, and email me your opinions, but not your flames.
Do I have to paint a picture?
-Overpriced
-Overweight/bloated
-unreliable
-crash more frequently (of course, part of this is due to the higher rate of clueless
posers drawn to all the shiny chrome)
Yes...it is the windoze of Motorcycles. Get a crotch rocket. Or anything that has that attribute called 'handling'
I have something in the works, and thank god I didn't release it in its current condidtion. Its not that I don't agree with this essay...because I can't agree....this article has no major point...I can see it filed under "advocacy", but it really doesn't present anything, or prove anything.
Sure, Flame me. But it is my opinion..there are good reasons for linux, there are good essays, but this one needs a little work.
Mainly because this year, those of us with some sense in our heads, realize its VERY inappropriate to celebrate president's day with a mattress sale
:)
Sorry if there was a message without a body.
My friend whose a major linux user on the intel side says that this is hack, like MonekeyLinux, a version of linux that will run on FAT32 drives, but will take a performance hit, but otherwise will be a fully functional version of linux, but no one uses it anymore because they can get Partition Magic, and MonkeyLinux is slow, and is "a hack".
What I want to know is this: Is this just a demo? Can I actually make this usuable, in the sense that I make the HD really big (it mentions a requirement of 105+ Megs) like a 500MB partition? Can I use swap? How functional is this? And does anyone know if LinuxPPC will supoort these "Live" versions? Some of us can't/won't repartition for an OS, even if the want/need it. For example, I share my computer with other people, and currently, 60% of all the documents are theirs. I can't repartition with something like Partition Magic, because no Macintosh Equvilant exists. Or does it? I am planning on getting this, because I like to program for linux (its easy to learn, and such a powerful development environment) and willing to live with the performance hit if I can just have LinuxPPC use a big HD image on my HFS Hard Drive. Does anyone know if they are planning on keeping this alive? And making it usable? It is either this, or re-installing Virtual PC and then installing linux over windoze95, and believe me, the performance hit of VirtualPC is big...while Linux (native code) wouldn't be.
I don't want to clog up slashdot with your replys. Reply to the fake email address above, but take out the "nospam" part. Thanks for any/all info.
--
Mac-Head? Me? Why Thank you!
First off, not even ROB would pass. Hey, wait, Apple is trashing its competitors. Instead of being unbiased, lets bash them, and Spread FUD.
Rob/CmdrTaco -- this is my message to you -- Fuck off. Go somewhere else. Do we laugh patetically at GNOME and KDE in your face, at your site? No, we don't.
If you don't see a use for it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to. But some people prefer using Apple's Disk Image format rather then attachments.
Thank you. That is all.
Now that ApplixWarePPC is out, many LinuxPPC users can be productive without having to reboot into MacOS. This can only be a good thing. Soon, as more and more Productivity software becomes availible for either/any platform, it'll be harder to spread FUD agaisnt linux being say..."counterproductive" or "unsupported" (if enough applications are supported, then it doesn't matter if the OS is..) or any stupid FUD like "opaque".
One more point for Linux.
Yeah, and open source, free software is something you can. And easily exploitable greed isn't hard to ignore at all.
Give up. Advocate all you want, you'll never convince all of them, because they know that on a large scale, it won't work.
No one has ever forced to buy mac. Mac doesn't own 95% of the desktop market. Your arguement is completely invalid. That is like stating that Amiga was a monopoly because DOS wouldn't run on it properly (or at all..it used a 68K chip like early macs, rather then an x86)
When you pay that "inflated price", you're paying for the hardware. Which, because Apple's hardware is the best (next to Alphas and SGI MIPS that is), you should expect to pay top dollar. They've always had performance years ahead of their wintel counterparts. The OS costs you nothing at all. This is true because the OS is what is selling the hardware...not the other way around. Also, Apple has announced that they're embracing linux -- you will be able to order BTO PowerMacs with Linux running on them...
Oh, and BeOS does run on a G3. The bug wasn't Apple being proprietary, which I remind you it has every right to be, but Be was being stupid, and Apple did have a bug in their OpenFirmWare....screw beOS It, there's an OS that will never succeed. It just takes them longer to develop for G3s then it does for x86.
The difference is this: PSX for windoze practically requires a Voodoo II 3dfx card...CVGS will require an iMac or better....and its more playable and polished, because its 99% PowerPC assembly....but we'll see how it is in the reviews....just my 2 cents
Again, another "Open Source advocate" who doesn't read the darn press release...
Its hand coded PowerPC 750 Assembly! You probably don't even know anything about Macs, much less PowerPC assembly....what good would Open Source do....by the time your guys could understand it, port it, and optimize it, Moore's law will have made that all irrelevant, for by raw speed alone, you'll be able to play it.
And then the PlayStaion II will come out....
: )