You all forgot about Luke. He was the one who was the head of the NTDOM branch - that got Samba to where is it today. I trolled comp.protocols.smb every day for about three years answering and asking questions. One day soon I hope to get back to doing that...
They rock. Compared to Compaq they are much stronger and more reliable. They can get expensive, but IBM's rock solid support offsets that for me. We use them to run SCO UNIX, but I'm dying for the chance to try Linux 2.2 on a 7000 M10 fully decked out. (4 450 Xeon PII/ 8GB RAM/TB of RAID 5) The way my company is pumping the things out, it should not take long.
The best part: _Everything_ is in stealth black. (Even got a deal with APC for black UPSes.)
I agree that VB can get nasty, but the truth of that matter is that Linux need a RAD-Level language. I've played with tcl/tk, which could be a good start, but it would need a better IDE.
The truth is that BASIC will never die - just due to it's ease of use. I'm using the VBVM on linux right now - and it is very impressive so far.
Don't like how VB works? Fine. Write a better one for Linux. I'll use it in a heart-beat - and so will all those VB windows programmers. Make it use CORBA instead of DCOM. Base it on open standards. JavaBeans don't cut it for me yet.
If you don't write it, I might just do it myself. Alternatively, show me something just as easy to write in on Linux, but I doubt you can.
This thread was really cool reading. I'm ROTFL from all the postings. I think all the hackers/anti-hackers should get a good geek laugh. Perhaps/. should start it's own talk show.
"Minature PC's, and the guys who love them" -wilkinsm
I agree with that. Journalist have to be dramatic in order to get attention. I get a kick out of the thought that maybe all this was spurned by some minor staffer who was caught installing the new 2.2.0 Linux kernel on a ZDNET computer.
As a side thought, I'd like to see ZDLabs do comparative performance testing. I suspect that they might find the results surprising.;)
Between this, the vendor support, the publicity, and the frantic development efforts out there, I'm starting to believe that Linux really CAN overtake Microsoft.
My new prediction is that by Jan 1st, 2000, Linux will be the operating system of choice for all new systems.
I've been an avid but slient listener of trak music since the PC MOD format and "House of the Rising Sun" sample MOD. It was a marvel to have my 286 spit out music from it's internal speaker. Since then, I have watched it evolve all the way to the new IT format. I've always preferred it to MIDI, because it generated the a much closer appoximation to what the original designer intended. I've watch groups and artists come and go, and over the last few years watch it slowly die since Wavetables replaced the FM OPL-3 chips and the creation of the MP3 format.
Why keep trakking alive? 1) File size much smaller. 2) Endless end-user customability - speed, channel isolation (get rid that annoying hand bell) pitch, etc. 3) Lower system overhead than MP3 (most of the time)
Why should trakking die? 1) Inferior sound quality (one sample size does not fit all) 2) Difficult/Inconsistant programming format
What could keep traking alive? 1) multi-platform player and web plugin (CP is my favorite, but windows likes MOD4WIN better, and IT has wierd memory contrants, nevermind linux...) 2) multi-platform traker that supports staff notation, MIDI input, good sampling ability. 3) PC Games and Game boxes 4) This one is the hardest - an universal MOD format. I vote for some combination of XM and IT, or conversion. Supporting all those formats out there must be a nightmare.
I for one rather see trakking stay alive - I rather have a 337 KB file than a 13MB techno MP3, but I fear that most of the good trakkers have already gone to ASM heaven. Rest in peace, Siren.
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You all forgot about Luke. He was the one who was the head of the NTDOM branch - that got Samba to where is it today. I trolled comp.protocols.smb every day for about three years answering and asking questions. One day soon I hope to get back to doing that...
Just a question from an AIX point of view... Does Linux have support for Journal File Systems?
Being able to change filesystems sizes on the fly is very cool.
-wilkinsm
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r ies/Netfinity+7000+M10
They rock. Compared to Compaq they are much stronger and more reliable. They can get expensive, but IBM's rock solid support offsets that for me. We use them to run SCO UNIX, but I'm dying for the chance to try Linux 2.2 on a 7000 M10 fully decked out. (4 450 Xeon PII/ 8GB RAM/TB of RAID 5) The way my company is pumping the things out, it should not take long.
The best part: _Everything_ is in stealth black. (Even got a deal with APC for black UPSes.)
Here a link. Check em out.
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwovse
Anyone out there with any Linux experence with them?
I remember there was some work being done on it -did it go out? Media Blitz! I want to see this on the front page of the NYT and WSJ tomarrow! ;)
I think we all should go out and become "Linux Witnesses".
On earth be done, thy linux will come...
-wilkinsm
I agree that VB can get nasty, but the truth of that matter is that Linux need a RAD-Level language. I've played with tcl/tk, which could be a good start, but it would need a better IDE.
The truth is that BASIC will never die - just due to it's ease of use. I'm using the VBVM on linux right now - and it is very impressive so far.
Don't like how VB works? Fine. Write a better one for Linux. I'll use it in a heart-beat - and so will all those VB windows programmers. Make it use CORBA instead of DCOM. Base it on open standards. JavaBeans don't cut it for me yet.
If you don't write it, I might just do it myself. Alternatively, show me something just as easy to write in on Linux, but I doubt you can.
This thread was really cool reading. I'm ROTFL from all the postings. I think all the hackers/anti-hackers should get a good geek laugh. Perhaps /. should start it's own talk show.
"Minature PC's, and the guys who love them"
-wilkinsm
I agree with that. Journalist have to be dramatic in order to get attention. I get a kick out of the thought that maybe all this was spurned by some minor staffer who was caught installing the new 2.2.0 Linux kernel on a ZDNET computer.
;)
As a side thought, I'd like to see ZDLabs do comparative performance testing. I suspect that they might find the results surprising.
Between this, the vendor support, the publicity, and the frantic development efforts out there, I'm starting to believe that Linux really CAN overtake Microsoft.
My new prediction is that by Jan 1st, 2000, Linux will be the operating system of choice for all new systems.
Linux - Operating system for a new millennium.
I've been an avid but slient listener of trak music since the PC MOD format and "House of the Rising Sun" sample MOD. It was a marvel to have my 286 spit out music from it's internal speaker. Since then, I have watched it evolve all the way to the new IT format. I've always preferred it to MIDI, because it generated the a much closer appoximation to what the original designer intended. I've watch groups and artists come and go, and over the last few years watch it slowly die since Wavetables replaced the FM OPL-3 chips and the creation of the MP3 format.
Why keep trakking alive?
1) File size much smaller.
2) Endless end-user customability - speed, channel isolation (get rid that annoying hand bell) pitch, etc.
3) Lower system overhead than MP3 (most of the time)
Why should trakking die?
1) Inferior sound quality (one sample size does not fit all)
2) Difficult/Inconsistant programming format
What could keep traking alive?
1) multi-platform player and web plugin (CP is my favorite, but windows likes MOD4WIN better, and IT has wierd memory contrants, nevermind linux...)
2) multi-platform traker that supports staff notation, MIDI input, good sampling ability.
3) PC Games and Game boxes
4) This one is the hardest - an universal MOD format. I vote for some combination of XM and IT, or conversion. Supporting all those formats out there must be a nightmare.
I for one rather see trakking stay alive - I rather have a 337 KB file than a 13MB techno MP3,
but I fear that most of the good trakkers have already gone to ASM heaven. Rest in peace, Siren.
-wilkinsm