Are you smoking crack? We have not concluded anything other than our known 3-Dimensions, and that Space and Time are actually Space-Time. This is pretty much another one of those baseless thoeries that have no physical proof, which is fine because thats why we have theories. However, entertaining this as anything but a theory that someone conjured up is simply not scientific, and you shouldn't consider yourself such if you do. Mathematics can show many things, like objects with N dimensions, that doesn't mean that they actually exist or that there is even a universe that exists with such. Just because someone has an explanation that talks about folds and an excuse for gravity does not overall prove a damn thing about the Universe, simply because there's no *proof*.
Neat view on the Universe. Thats all this is. Considering it to be anything but that is baseless.
Well bang for the buck isn't really the issue. You could probably get 5000 486 processors for reeally really cheap and build a system that has more power than X system. That doesn't mean shit when it comes to it. Money never was an issue with "fastest" computer and Moore's Law.
Thats what Fusion means. If we get fusion cheap enough, the potential exists to literally have hydrogen powered cars. Through hydrolosis, which is running an electrical current through water, you can split the hydrogen and oxygen. If electricity were cheap enough, this would me that you would have a car that runs on the by products of water. You could make your own fuel to power your car.
This also means that you can purify water from the ocean and irigate an entire desert with it. You wouldn't hydrolosis for this, you'd simply boil the water to steam and condense it to remove the salts.
Can you imagine if the Sahara desert was able to bear fruit? Not only would that mean an end to hunger in the continent, but potentially the world.
I'm not saying that this can happen overnight. All I am saying is that if we have cheap enough electricity, which is what Fusion promises, then life will be a whole hell of a lot easier for everyone.
I can't imagine why anyone would want anything but this.
But thats not true though. In theory, yes, you dump a trillion dollars on the developement of quantum computers, and you've blown away Moore's Law. My point however is that dumping a trillion dollars into a parallelized system that uses regular processors will not break Moore's Law, and never will, because Moore's Law is based on the measurement of the density within the individual processors themselves, and not the system as a whole. i.e. the density of a system that has 1 processor is the same as the density of a system with 500 processors.
Moore's Law is based on the fastest processor existing today, not the most economical. Now of course there are processors that will do specific functionality faster, but their semi-conductor density has not changed. Speed is not the issue at hand here, its the symptom of increasing density.
One thing I find interesting by this fact, is that since gravitational waves travel at the speed of light, space therefore has an elasticity.
For example, if a huge black hole were to open up where the sun is, and engulf it, the Earth wouldn't feel the effects of it for 7 minutes (I think its 7 minutes at c to the Sun?). I find that pretty cool.
Simply put, this doesn't break Moore's Law, because Moore's law is based on Semi-Conductor density, not speed. Of course speed is an attribute related to density, but they are not the same thing.
Dumping CPU's on a system doesn't break Moore's Law, and never will.
First Issue: Is it possible for someone to steal someone's username and password online or without having direct access to the vitim's personal information?
Answer: Probably not, although that depends on the individual. My guess is that nobody would hack someones personal system to get that type of information. However if this did happen, I'd consider this equivalent to invading someones home to get this information.
Second Issue: Is it possible for the victim's password to be brute forced?
Answer: Depends. If the password can be brute forced without accessing the website, then you've got serious problems. However if the password needs to be brute forced by accessing the server, then so long as you have some type of cut-off for how many guesses the attacker can make, then I really don't see a problem with it.
I don't see them as invading the linux kernel and trojaning it at all. In fact, I said completely the oposite. The reasons why I am against them participating in the linux kernel are because they're:
- Communist. - They've stolen extremely sensitive nuclear weapon information from us. - They repeatedly and blatently violate the human rights of its citizens and Nepal.
Need I say more? The US government doesn't violate human rights without severe reprocussions. People can bitch and moan about Echelon, but the truth is, its never violated their human rights. I've also never heard a shred of evidence stating that it ever has either.
I think its safe to say that the majority of programmers working on the kernel right now are not chinese.
I doubt they'll be able to throw anything in there without people noticing. I doubt even more that they would be able to for a stable release thats been looked over so much.
The chinese would be more likely to pay off some insiders to do the dirty work, then to have their own people sabotage. Besides, they're going to be using it also, remember?
Memory management is an issue with Java. The reasons for why they made Java this way makes perfect sense however. They needed a language that was Object Oriented, portable, and was completely blind as to the underlying memory management. The result is no direct access to pointers/memory. If you do this, then you need garbage handling if you expect to run applications for long periods of time. If you allow for pointers in the language, then you're getting into the underlying platform specific memory management which goes against all the benefits of the VM.
As for why Java is slower, I really do not see how you find the memory management issues to be the problem. In fact, I insist that they are not the problem. The way garbage handling works is, each Object has a counter. The counter keeps track of how many variable references it has. When the counter hits zero AND if the system is running low on memory, then the objects get deleted. This is one cycle every time you reference and de-reference an object. Thats peanuts. Native compilers like JIT, etc. may seem slow because they're compiling everything, and then they are executing code that is 100% Object Oriented. There's a whole ton of steps that they are including in the native execution that is completely unnecessary. Thats what the issue is. They're not optimizing properly.
NOBODY will buy a device thats going to throw spam at you. Not a single soul in the world would be that stupid.
The intentions of Sun for Jini is not marketing, its functionality. So far, marketing is not an issue with Jini devices. They're not intended to be used as globally networked devices as much as they are locally networked. In other words, you'll have control over the routing, not the manufacturers.
Besides, Congress throws a hissy when they see what Cookies are intended for (hence this banner ad sh1t), and they're about to motion to regulate it. You're never, EVER going to be spammed in your own home unless you're being entertained. I just can't see it happening!!
What alot of you anti-java gimps tend to not realize is that something like Java, which is about 10x slower than native architecture, will evntually become unnoticeable to the us as processors become faster. They will still be working 10 times longer, but it'll also be done a hell of alot faster.
Not only do applications like this push the industry to work harder, but they are AHEAD of the technology of today, not behind.
A few years from now I can realisticly see Java having wide-spread use in the every industry. Right now there are numerous companies using Java to do serious number crunching. I know someone who is using it to do voice over IP. Not only are its threading capabilities very useful, but RMI is a great leap forward for parallel and distributed processing. Its true that the industry generally operates on the belief that if a system is slow, they can just plug another processor in. This doesn't matter so much because 5 years from now the common desktop will be more powerful as those parallel machines.
You need to keep these factors in mind when you go out to criticize Java's speed. Just because its relatively slow now doesn't mean it can't be blazingly fast in the future.
Don't get me wrong however, for serious number crunching should be done in native architecture (which you can do with JNI). Office apps, Browsers, Utilities, etc. will all benefit from Java in the future if the industry will more openly accept it.
You want to set the time on your VCR, and you want to set it to record at 9:30 pm on Channel 7. What do you do? You load a java app or applet that Sony has created to interface with the simple device. The App has a gui, and you can select different things on VCR. The best thing about it is that you can do it from your PC.
For the coffee maker, lets say you need to wake up at variable times in the morning. Do need to reset the time on your coffee maker pusihg buttons and shit? Absolutely not, you just run a program on your PC which sets the time for you. Hell if you know any java you could write your own program to do all this stuff.
The thing I'd love to see is a Jini compatible dog feeder. Just set the time(s) you want your pup fed, and voila, all you need to do is dump the entire bag of dogfood in there.
As for Jini itself, routing will not be as much an issue as you think. For one, its intended to be primarily wireless, although they have discussed using electrical wiring to transfer information (which would be difficult due to interference). Hell... screw X10, I'd rather install Jini light sockets to operate everything.
The only thing that is remotely scarey about it is the security issue of a wireless setup. I'm pretty sure there are ways of solving that though.
Jini is probably the best thing since sliced bread. The fact that Sony is going to implement it means that this world will be far cooler and much sooner.
I've been waiting forever for this technology to be released. This is truely what Java was intended for: multiple architectures, even those that are extremely simple.
I'd say 3-4 years from now we'll all be buying coffee makers that are configurable from your PC, or a Java program.
There already are open formats. Its not the format that is the issue, its the utility that makes the format. You can potentially make a document that looks as nice as a word document, except its in HTML. The hard part is the utility for making it look pretty.
Nobody is making personal attacks on him. We make personal attacks on his work and the way he does it.
Its obvious that/. wants to invoke discussion of certain topics. They have two options. They can post a comment "blah blah lets talk about Collombine" in which case nobody would post anything, OR they could have Katz whipp up one of his pseudo conspriacy/controversial "articles" and induce discussion by everyone, even those who blatently see through him and his crappy articles.
The fact isn't that Katz writes poorly and is generally out of touch with the/. society, its that Slashdot and Katz alike are doing this solely for the sake of profit and completely disregarding what their users like. The result is that if they keep this going, in 6 months slashdot will have very, very little intellectual user base, and they'll be supporting themselves off hype and conspiratorialists (if thats even a freaking word).
Java is about 10 times slower then native machine language. As processors become faster, 10 times slower for stuff such as office applications will become a non-issue with computers. With processors already damn close to a gigahert, thats a pretty good investment for Sun to be looking into.
People call Java useless (CmdrTaco), but when it comes down to it, its the best thing since sliced bread. In a few years, the slowness of it will be completely unnoticeable next to other applications.
Now of course when I say this I'm making the assumption that the applications won't use up more processing time relative to the cpu enhancements. This has been generally true with all software over the last few years. They may require more cycles, but they're still faster on faster processors even though they're doing more work.
The real winner of the MS trial is Sun. This will pretty much open the door for them to slaughter them in the court room over MS' breach of contracts.
What I personally would like to see is Java used on a wide-scale basis for Office Application software, etc. That way platform architecture would not hinder the software.
Its not the Constitution, its the fact that you need a lawyer to outline specificly what it is, etc. It generally takes a while to get those things done. Patent lawyers are expensive because the only reason why someone should be patenting something to begin with is so that they can make money off of it. If a small company had something legitimate to patent, then it wouldn't be hard coming up with $20k. Hell, I could come up with $20k over night and I'm young.
The problem is the personal belief by Americans that revenge is an acceptable response. Its not. Its one thing to sue big tobacco for purposefully lacing cigarettes with addictive substances. Its an entirely different issue if you accidentally rear-end someone and they sue for emotional trauma.
Sticking it to your fellow American is not what lawsuits were intended to be used for.
I see alot of this on slashdot with with the principal of this school for example. Revenge on him is not the answer. The problem is the fact that the liability placed on him is unnecessarily large. I'm in no way saying I agree.
Here's an example:
A student at MIT dies from binge drinking that was involved with a frat. The dead student's parents decide they're going to stick it to the school, since its their fault.
Has it ever occurred to the parents that if the student wasn't a stupid mother-fscker that he himself could have prevented his own death? Since he did cause it himself. Absolutely not, because the parents are thinking of revenge, not prevention.
This attitude of vengence is just ridiculous. I hate to express my morals on people, but this is one that society just can't survive without.
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Are you smoking crack? We have not concluded anything other than our known 3-Dimensions, and that Space and Time are actually Space-Time. This is pretty much another one of those baseless thoeries that have no physical proof, which is fine because thats why we have theories. However, entertaining this as anything but a theory that someone conjured up is simply not scientific, and you shouldn't consider yourself such if you do. Mathematics can show many things, like objects with N dimensions, that doesn't mean that they actually exist or that there is even a universe that exists with such. Just because someone has an explanation that talks about folds and an excuse for gravity does not overall prove a damn thing about the Universe, simply because there's no *proof*.
Neat view on the Universe. Thats all this is. Considering it to be anything but that is baseless.
Well bang for the buck isn't really the issue. You could probably get 5000 486 processors for reeally really cheap and build a system that has more power than X system. That doesn't mean shit when it comes to it. Money never was an issue with "fastest" computer and Moore's Law.
Thats what Fusion means. If we get fusion cheap enough, the potential exists to literally have hydrogen powered cars. Through hydrolosis, which is running an electrical current through water, you can split the hydrogen and oxygen. If electricity were cheap enough, this would me that you would have a car that runs on the by products of water. You could make your own fuel to power your car.
This also means that you can purify water from the ocean and irigate an entire desert with it. You wouldn't hydrolosis for this, you'd simply boil the water to steam and condense it to remove the salts.
Can you imagine if the Sahara desert was able to bear fruit? Not only would that mean an end to hunger in the continent, but potentially the world.
I'm not saying that this can happen overnight. All I am saying is that if we have cheap enough electricity, which is what Fusion promises, then life will be a whole hell of a lot easier for everyone.
I can't imagine why anyone would want anything but this.
But thats not true though. In theory, yes, you dump a trillion dollars on the developement of quantum computers, and you've blown away Moore's Law. My point however is that dumping a trillion dollars into a parallelized system that uses regular processors will not break Moore's Law, and never will, because Moore's Law is based on the measurement of the density within the individual processors themselves, and not the system as a whole. i.e. the density of a system that has 1 processor is the same as the density of a system with 500 processors.
Moore's Law is based on the fastest processor existing today, not the most economical. Now of course there are processors that will do specific functionality faster, but their semi-conductor density has not changed. Speed is not the issue at hand here, its the symptom of increasing density.
One thing I find interesting by this fact, is that since gravitational waves travel at the speed of light, space therefore has an elasticity.
For example, if a huge black hole were to open up where the sun is, and engulf it, the Earth wouldn't feel the effects of it for 7 minutes (I think its 7 minutes at c to the Sun?). I find that pretty cool.
Simply put, this doesn't break Moore's Law, because Moore's law is based on Semi-Conductor density, not speed. Of course speed is an attribute related to density, but they are not the same thing.
Dumping CPU's on a system doesn't break Moore's Law, and never will.
First Issue:
Is it possible for someone to steal someone's username and password online or without having direct access to the vitim's personal information?
Answer: Probably not, although that depends on the individual. My guess is that nobody would hack someones personal system to get that type of information. However if this did happen, I'd consider this equivalent to invading someones home to get this information.
Second Issue:
Is it possible for the victim's password to be brute forced?
Answer: Depends. If the password can be brute forced without accessing the website, then you've got serious problems. However if the password needs to be brute forced by accessing the server, then so long as you have some type of cut-off for how many guesses the attacker can make, then I really don't see a problem with it.
How would this apply to using a ramdisk? Its shareable, its persistent memory.
My guess is that this patent won't hold in court, because they didn't invent it, they're just claiming it.
I don't see them as invading the linux kernel and trojaning it at all. In fact, I said completely the oposite. The reasons why I am against them participating in the linux kernel are because they're:
- Communist.
- They've stolen extremely sensitive nuclear weapon information from us.
- They repeatedly and blatently violate the human rights of its citizens and Nepal.
Need I say more? The US government doesn't violate human rights without severe reprocussions. People can bitch and moan about Echelon, but the truth is, its never violated their human rights. I've also never heard a shred of evidence stating that it ever has either.
Possibly a divide by 0?
Somewhere in the code it may divide something by the time, which it translates to 0. This is sometimes why whacky stuff occurs.
I think its safe to say that the majority of programmers working on the kernel right now are not chinese.
I doubt they'll be able to throw anything in there without people noticing. I doubt even more that they would be able to for a stable release thats been looked over so much.
The chinese would be more likely to pay off some insiders to do the dirty work, then to have their own people sabotage. Besides, they're going to be using it also, remember?
Memory management is an issue with Java. The reasons for why they made Java this way makes perfect sense however. They needed a language that was Object Oriented, portable, and was completely blind as to the underlying memory management. The result is no direct access to pointers/memory. If you do this, then you need garbage handling if you expect to run applications for long periods of time. If you allow for pointers in the language, then you're getting into the underlying platform specific memory management which goes against all the benefits of the VM.
As for why Java is slower, I really do not see how you find the memory management issues to be the problem. In fact, I insist that they are not the problem. The way garbage handling works is, each Object has a counter. The counter keeps track of how many variable references it has. When the counter hits zero AND if the system is running low on memory, then the objects get deleted. This is one cycle every time you reference and de-reference an object. Thats peanuts. Native compilers like JIT, etc. may seem slow because they're compiling everything, and then they are executing code that is 100% Object Oriented. There's a whole ton of steps that they are including in the native execution that is completely unnecessary. Thats what the issue is. They're not optimizing properly.
NOBODY will buy a device thats going to throw spam at you. Not a single soul in the world would be that stupid.
The intentions of Sun for Jini is not marketing, its functionality. So far, marketing is not an issue with Jini devices. They're not intended to be used as globally networked devices as much as they are locally networked. In other words, you'll have control over the routing, not the manufacturers.
Besides, Congress throws a hissy when they see what Cookies are intended for (hence this banner ad sh1t), and they're about to motion to regulate it. You're never, EVER going to be spammed in your own home unless you're being entertained. I just can't see it happening!!
Is there already hardware for it? If so, where? I remember looking into it, but it was still just a design spec.
What alot of you anti-java gimps tend to not realize is that something like Java, which is about 10x slower than native architecture, will evntually become unnoticeable to the us as processors become faster. They will still be working 10 times longer, but it'll also be done a hell of alot faster.
Not only do applications like this push the industry to work harder, but they are AHEAD of the technology of today, not behind.
A few years from now I can realisticly see Java having wide-spread use in the every industry. Right now there are numerous companies using Java to do serious number crunching. I know someone who is using it to do voice over IP. Not only are its threading capabilities very useful, but RMI is a great leap forward for parallel and distributed processing. Its true that the industry generally operates on the belief that if a system is slow, they can just plug another processor in. This doesn't matter so much because 5 years from now the common desktop will be more powerful as those parallel machines.
You need to keep these factors in mind when you go out to criticize Java's speed. Just because its relatively slow now doesn't mean it can't be blazingly fast in the future.
Don't get me wrong however, for serious number crunching should be done in native architecture (which you can do with JNI). Office apps, Browsers, Utilities, etc. will all benefit from Java in the future if the industry will more openly accept it.
You want to set the time on your VCR, and you want to set it to record at 9:30 pm on Channel 7. What do you do? You load a java app or applet that Sony has created to interface with the simple device. The App has a gui, and you can select different things on VCR. The best thing about it is that you can do it from your PC.
For the coffee maker, lets say you need to wake up at variable times in the morning. Do need to reset the time on your coffee maker pusihg buttons and shit? Absolutely not, you just run a program on your PC which sets the time for you. Hell if you know any java you could write your own program to do all this stuff.
The thing I'd love to see is a Jini compatible dog feeder. Just set the time(s) you want your pup fed, and voila, all you need to do is dump the entire bag of dogfood in there.
As for Jini itself, routing will not be as much an issue as you think. For one, its intended to be primarily wireless, although they have discussed using electrical wiring to transfer information (which would be difficult due to interference). Hell... screw X10, I'd rather install Jini light sockets to operate everything.
The only thing that is remotely scarey about it is the security issue of a wireless setup. I'm pretty sure there are ways of solving that though.
Jini is probably the best thing since sliced bread. The fact that Sony is going to implement it means that this world will be far cooler and much sooner.
I've been waiting forever for this technology to be released. This is truely what Java was intended for: multiple architectures, even those that are extremely simple.
I'd say 3-4 years from now we'll all be buying coffee makers that are configurable from your PC, or a Java program.
No.
There already are open formats. Its not the format that is the issue, its the utility that makes the format. You can potentially make a document that looks as nice as a word document, except its in HTML. The hard part is the utility for making it look pretty.
Nobody is making personal attacks on him. We make personal attacks on his work and the way he does it.
/. wants to invoke discussion of certain topics. They have two options. They can post a comment "blah blah lets talk about Collombine" in which case nobody would post anything, OR they could have Katz whipp up one of his pseudo conspriacy/controversial "articles" and induce discussion by everyone, even those who blatently see through him and his crappy articles.
/. society, its that Slashdot and Katz alike are doing this solely for the sake of profit and completely disregarding what their users like. The result is that if they keep this going, in 6 months slashdot will have very, very little intellectual user base, and they'll be supporting themselves off hype and conspiratorialists (if thats even a freaking word).
Its obvious that
The fact isn't that Katz writes poorly and is generally out of touch with the
Are you plugging your company?
Well, you have to look at it this way:
Java is about 10 times slower then native machine language. As processors become faster, 10 times slower for stuff such as office applications will become a non-issue with computers. With processors already damn close to a gigahert, thats a pretty good investment for Sun to be looking into.
People call Java useless (CmdrTaco), but when it comes down to it, its the best thing since sliced bread. In a few years, the slowness of it will be completely unnoticeable next to other applications.
Now of course when I say this I'm making the assumption that the applications won't use up more processing time relative to the cpu enhancements. This has been generally true with all software over the last few years. They may require more cycles, but they're still faster on faster processors even though they're doing more work.
The real winner of the MS trial is Sun. This will pretty much open the door for them to slaughter them in the court room over MS' breach of contracts.
What I personally would like to see is Java used on a wide-scale basis for Office Application software, etc. That way platform architecture would not hinder the software.
Its not the Constitution, its the fact that you need a lawyer to outline specificly what it is, etc. It generally takes a while to get those things done. Patent lawyers are expensive because the only reason why someone should be patenting something to begin with is so that they can make money off of it. If a small company had something legitimate to patent, then it wouldn't be hard coming up with $20k. Hell, I could come up with $20k over night and I'm young.
Like minimum of $20k. Never heard of a cheap patent lawyer.
The problem is the personal belief by Americans that revenge is an acceptable response. Its not. Its one thing to sue big tobacco for purposefully lacing cigarettes with addictive substances. Its an entirely different issue if you accidentally rear-end someone and they sue for emotional trauma.
Sticking it to your fellow American is not what lawsuits were intended to be used for.
I see alot of this on slashdot with with the principal of this school for example. Revenge on him is not the answer. The problem is the fact that the liability placed on him is unnecessarily large. I'm in no way saying I agree.
Here's an example:
A student at MIT dies from binge drinking that was involved with a frat. The dead student's parents decide they're going to stick it to the school, since its their fault.
Has it ever occurred to the parents that if the student wasn't a stupid mother-fscker that he himself could have prevented his own death? Since he did cause it himself. Absolutely not, because the parents are thinking of revenge, not prevention.
This attitude of vengence is just ridiculous. I hate to express my morals on people, but this is one that society just can't survive without.