anti-glare is availble on "pro" level machines - check
apple has highest customer satisfaction and reliability ratings - check
other OEMs struggling to match pricing on ipad, macbook air... check
Sure, final cut pro sucked, but the rest of the argument.... sorry don't see it.
Yes, the mac pros are a very expensive machine if you load them up with RAM from apple. Don't do that. Problem solved? They aren't very much more expensive than other similarly specced PRO level machines (i.e., with workstation class boards containing xeons) from other OEMS.
The average person doesn't want a small mobile computer. Hell, plenty of them don't want any computer. They want an appliance. Apple is the first company to "get" that.
Yes, plenty of nerds don't fit that category and want a full blown computer. The average person does not. They want to do tasks, and if an appliance can do that for them, it is often a better fit.
No, those problems are due to incompetent programmers using tools they shouldn't be using. They'd make the same (and worse/more) mistakes in assembly, which is the closest option available to C, had C not been available.
C doesn't have a lot of features by design. The objective was to be simple to write and close to the hardware, so a new system could have a C compiler knocked out very quickly to enable development of more more complex software as required.
If you're trying to use vanilla C to do complex string operations today, etc then you're using the wrong tool for the job.
it's the philosophy of C and UNIX: keep it simple, do it right
Not quite. The philosophy of unix is "do it well enough". There is plenty of stuff unix doesn't really do strictly "right", but it solves 90% of the problem and allows you to handle the edge cases yourself.
Then again, the amiga ran all of workbench in around 128k of RAM (machine had 512k, leaving around 400 or so free when booted). Early versions written on BCPL, later versions in C...
The other thing is, its one less device. It would not surprise me if they get onboard with a panel manufacturer and get them embedded into TVs, as well. When you're talking about a panel worth a couple of grand, an extra 100-150 bucks to give it internet movie streaming and the ability to play games is a pretty attractive option. One less HDMI cable, no seperate remote, etc.
Thing is, the appleTV is cheap enough already and capable enough already. All that is holding it back is software. Add the ability to install IOS games on it and some drivers for seperate peripherals / i-device and they could have one out with todays hardware...
C++ wouldn't have come about without C either. Not in its current form, at least (deliberately obvious clarification statement for the retarded out there)
So what is it, are you really just dumb or just trying hard not to see the actual point being made?
Nope, the third option: you're really dumb for reading your own interpretation into things that were never stated, and flying off the handle over it. Maybe time for those bipolar meds?
Really, the original poster didnt say "Without C, we wouldn't have Unix (which he also co-developed), Windows, OS X (and thus the i-devices) or most of the other modern operating systems. His contributions will live on."?
That is exactly what i wrote. And nowhere in that statement is a claim that we would not currently have advanced operating systems, or that someone else would not have put out something different. I was stating that virtually ALL popular modern operating systems and a huge number of consumer devices are either written in C or a dialect and/or based on Unix.
Whether or not someone else COULD have put out something equivalent or not is irrelevant. dmr DID put out C, and we have the products above that have been derived from it.
I stand by my assertion that the computing landscape today would be significantly different without his input. Whether it would be better or worse is anybody's guess, but it would most certainly be DIFFERENT.
I was taking issue with the original posters assertion that without him, nothing we have computing wise in the modern world would exist. Which is patently ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS.
No, you read things into my post that were never written or intended to be implied.
I wasn't saying other products would not have eventuated. Maybe they would have been better. But the computing landscape today would look vastly different without his contributions.
Whether you like C or not, it served a very focused purpose: be small and simple enough to be easy to port to new hardware architectures, and be close enough to assembly to get low level shit done.
If C didn't come out and take off, something else with similar characteristics no doubt would have. No, it would NOT be a fully type-safe language with garbage collection, memory protection, etc, etc. It would have likely shared the majority of C's "shortcomings" as that is the nature of the requirements.
Back in the day, those features were way too heavy on performance, and they cripple access to the hardware. C is the way it is for very good reasons. If you can't write code safely in C, then you shouldn't be using it. There are plenty of idiot safe languages for the idiots we have out there writing code these days.
Quite sure the story is bunk. It has documents sync, nowhere in the docco does it mention limitations on file type. You pay for your storage and you store your shit... unless there's documentation or some shred of evidence that PDFs in particular are excluded, this statement, as per the rest of the bs story, is bunk.
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No, this study was purely on purchases, and many of those who previously purchased android jumped ship. It only took new phone purchases into account, and previous platform - those who were not buying phones (i.e., staying with their existing android handset) were not part of the study.
...why apple hasn't already made inroads into the console space.
The second gen apple TV is powerful enough for basic games (and this is what is selling bulk, at the moment), has bluetooth, and is super cheap.
I predict a new generation apple TV with iPhone 4-S hardware. Selling for around 100-150 bucks, and enabling people to purchase IOS games from the app store and play them in full high-def in the living room, possibly using i-devices as a controller, or with additional blue-tooth controllers available.
The hardware is good enough, it is cheap, and as been shown so many times as of late, all the hardware in the world doesn't matter a shit because most modern big budget games are crap - they're far too conservative and just follow the same tired old formula, and no one is willing to take a risk. The app store os a breath of fresh air n that respect.
If people could buy games to play on their home cinema for anywhere between free hand typical game RRP, with an average cost under 10 bucks (and ability to play the same content on an iPhone), they will likely sell like hot cakes. Sony and microsoft should be concerned.
As stated above. Without C, we wouldn't have Unix (which he also co-developed), Windows, OS X (and thus the i-devices) or most of the other modern operating systems. His contributions will live on.
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lol. people want IOS, but they lso want cheap. Android looks a bit like IOS, and is cheap so they get it. IOS's retention/re-purchase rate of 80-90% vs androids retention rate of far less (don't have the survey on me, but the stats were somewhere down in the 60% range or less) indicates that no, people do not generally want "android", once they've been exposed to it.
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Sure, final cut pro sucked, but the rest of the argument.... sorry don't see it.
Yes, the mac pros are a very expensive machine if you load them up with RAM from apple. Don't do that. Problem solved? They aren't very much more expensive than other similarly specced PRO level machines (i.e., with workstation class boards containing xeons) from other OEMS.
The average person doesn't want a small mobile computer. Hell, plenty of them don't want any computer. They want an appliance. Apple is the first company to "get" that.
Yes, plenty of nerds don't fit that category and want a full blown computer. The average person does not. They want to do tasks, and if an appliance can do that for them, it is often a better fit.
So me turning on "document sync" in my icloud control panel on my mac just didn't happen, then?
No, those problems are due to incompetent programmers using tools they shouldn't be using. They'd make the same (and worse/more) mistakes in assembly, which is the closest option available to C, had C not been available.
C doesn't have a lot of features by design. The objective was to be simple to write and close to the hardware, so a new system could have a C compiler knocked out very quickly to enable development of more more complex software as required.
If you're trying to use vanilla C to do complex string operations today, etc then you're using the wrong tool for the job.
Not quite. The philosophy of unix is "do it well enough". There is plenty of stuff unix doesn't really do strictly "right", but it solves 90% of the problem and allows you to handle the edge cases yourself.
See worse is better
Then again, the amiga ran all of workbench in around 128k of RAM (machine had 512k, leaving around 400 or so free when booted). Early versions written on BCPL, later versions in C...
The other thing is, its one less device. It would not surprise me if they get onboard with a panel manufacturer and get them embedded into TVs, as well. When you're talking about a panel worth a couple of grand, an extra 100-150 bucks to give it internet movie streaming and the ability to play games is a pretty attractive option. One less HDMI cable, no seperate remote, etc.
Thing is, the appleTV is cheap enough already and capable enough already. All that is holding it back is software. Add the ability to install IOS games on it and some drivers for seperate peripherals / i-device and they could have one out with todays hardware...
C++ wouldn't have come about without C either. Not in its current form, at least (deliberately obvious clarification statement for the retarded out there)
Nope, the third option: you're really dumb for reading your own interpretation into things that were never stated, and flying off the handle over it. Maybe time for those bipolar meds?
That is exactly what i wrote. And nowhere in that statement is a claim that we would not currently have advanced operating systems, or that someone else would not have put out something different. I was stating that virtually ALL popular modern operating systems and a huge number of consumer devices are either written in C or a dialect and/or based on Unix.
Whether or not someone else COULD have put out something equivalent or not is irrelevant. dmr DID put out C, and we have the products above that have been derived from it.
I stand by my assertion that the computing landscape today would be significantly different without his input. Whether it would be better or worse is anybody's guess, but it would most certainly be DIFFERENT.
No, you read things into my post that were never written or intended to be implied.
No, you are reading too much into my comment. see: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2473586&cid=37701784
I wasn't saying other products would not have eventuated. Maybe they would have been better. But the computing landscape today would look vastly different without his contributions.
Whether you like C or not, it served a very focused purpose: be small and simple enough to be easy to port to new hardware architectures, and be close enough to assembly to get low level shit done.
If C didn't come out and take off, something else with similar characteristics no doubt would have. No, it would NOT be a fully type-safe language with garbage collection, memory protection, etc, etc. It would have likely shared the majority of C's "shortcomings" as that is the nature of the requirements.
Back in the day, those features were way too heavy on performance, and they cripple access to the hardware. C is the way it is for very good reasons. If you can't write code safely in C, then you shouldn't be using it. There are plenty of idiot safe languages for the idiots we have out there writing code these days.
Yes
Quite sure the story is bunk. It has documents sync, nowhere in the docco does it mention limitations on file type. You pay for your storage and you store your shit... unless there's documentation or some shred of evidence that PDFs in particular are excluded, this statement, as per the rest of the bs story, is bunk.
iTunes is deprecated and no longer required
or rather, here
in fact - here, have a link to it.
study
No, this study was purely on purchases, and many of those who previously purchased android jumped ship. It only took new phone purchases into account, and previous platform - those who were not buying phones (i.e., staying with their existing android handset) were not part of the study.
The second gen apple TV is powerful enough for basic games (and this is what is selling bulk, at the moment), has bluetooth, and is super cheap.
I predict a new generation apple TV with iPhone 4-S hardware. Selling for around 100-150 bucks, and enabling people to purchase IOS games from the app store and play them in full high-def in the living room, possibly using i-devices as a controller, or with additional blue-tooth controllers available.
The hardware is good enough, it is cheap, and as been shown so many times as of late, all the hardware in the world doesn't matter a shit because most modern big budget games are crap - they're far too conservative and just follow the same tired old formula, and no one is willing to take a risk. The app store os a breath of fresh air n that respect.
If people could buy games to play on their home cinema for anywhere between free hand typical game RRP, with an average cost under 10 bucks (and ability to play the same content on an iPhone), they will likely sell like hot cakes. Sony and microsoft should be concerned.
As stated above. Without C, we wouldn't have Unix (which he also co-developed), Windows, OS X (and thus the i-devices) or most of the other modern operating systems. His contributions will live on.
lol. people want IOS, but they lso want cheap. Android looks a bit like IOS, and is cheap so they get it. IOS's retention/re-purchase rate of 80-90% vs androids retention rate of far less (don't have the survey on me, but the stats were somewhere down in the 60% range or less) indicates that no, people do not generally want "android", once they've been exposed to it.
The big win is not having to spend weeks uploading your mp3 library.