Users don't understand the risks of running disk administrator either, but that doesn't mean microsoft removes it. They don't understand the risks of running example scripts in IIS either, but that doesn't stop microsoft including them by default in all IIS installs.
I would be considered an "IT professional", have used virtualization since 1998-1999 or so, and I don't understand the "risks" behind running in a virtual machine either perhaps? What risks are they? License non-compliance? Activation problems?
Cool! The guy believes in Jesus, let's fire him, then torture him
This isn't the issue. The *issue* is that he is promoting it as scientific FACT.
Religion is a set of *beliefs*. You don't *KNOW* them to be true, but you *believe* they are and hope you're right.
My personal opinion of religion (of any form) is that it evolved as a set of stories with morals to guide socially acceptable behavior in the days before the general public could read and write, nothing more. If it works for some people, good for you. For the rest of us, there is our own sense of "right and wrong", and if that doesn't cut it, the rule of law.
People taking *any* religion as a set of indisputable *facts* are missing the point...
For imposing his beliefs on others under threat of eternal torture, teaching beliefs as facts, singling out those not of his religion and persecuting them in the classroom and lying to his superiors, he should be fired.
You forgot the essential step of getting your nearest 6 year old kid, or kitten to press the button for you, thereby rendering the agreement null and void:D
What he said, thank you. The gross "misunderstanding" of the law we have these days is why we have so many dishonest assholes around doing shit like this in the first place.
Example - i leave a pie in the pie warmer for lunch. Some prick takes it and eats it. Its not my fault it wasn't secured, the source of the problem is some thieving asshole...
Stealing the car is still wrong, but surely you can't expect it not to be stolen under those circumstances. Doesn't that make it entrapment?
You're damn right i expect it not to be stolen.
I work in a small mining community (9 days a fortnight), and quite frequently, we will leave keys in cars, valuables in cars, engine running, doors/windows open, etc and none of it gets stolen. Why? Because if you get caught stealing, you get fired and likely never work in a high paying industry job, ever again... that, and the fact that everyone knows everyone else.
Its not entrapment, no one held a gun to the thieves head and said "steal this or i'll shoot you". Theft is one of those basic right/wrong things you learn as a kid, that these days, seems to be overlooked. I don't care how insecure, unlocked, or otherwise inviting someone else's property is - use/take without their express permission, and you better have a damn good excuse for it (eg, i needed your car to get to the hospital) otherwise it's theft.
Are you being facetious? If they fired their composers and sound engineers, they could pay for a few more developers, security revieiwers, designers, or other people to help make the OS more secure.
This is microsoft. If they wanted to, they could just employ a few more developers, security reviewers, designers or other people anyway.
Its not like they're short of funds to do so.
This is microsoft's flagship product. Microsoft has a war-chest of billions of dollars, that is still growing last I heard. If they want/need to employ someone, they will...
Well, when you need 1 (or multiple) boxes *per service* in a Windows environment of any decent size, and in general, 1 license of linux can be installed on as many machines as you like, of course Windows is going to outsell Linux, even if they have equal "work share"...
I'm not saying I agree with the original post that the war is "over and linux won", i'm merely pointing out the fact that "market share" sales statistics are complete bollocks...
I have to say i have never had that problem, going from TNT2 -> Geforce 2MX -> Geforce 4 Ti 4200 -> Geforce 6600GT (all AGP, i haven't included my new PCI express Nvidia card).
Frankly, I'm not passing judgement, yet. For me what keeps me on the fence is the option to call Microsoft Customer Service and get a re-activation code (or something like that). Now, on one hand, the service could be a royal pain in the ass, and leave you on hold for hours and getting bounced back and forth from customer service rep to customer service rep.
And why should you accept *THIS* situation for software you have legally purchased? I don't care if its 35 seconds, or 3 hours, if I have to call customer service for permission to use my PC, they can get fucked...
Well, considering you're buying a SOFTWARE license, and the operating system isn't going to be running on your old components, now sitting in the bin... for this purpose I would say yes. Hell, even if its not the SAME computer, its still one software license in use by one person, on *that person's* hardware. I do not see the problem letting users run it on new hardware - other than microsoft being greedy that is.
Debian has problems from time to time as well in unstable, and if you haven't been bitten by them yet, trust me - you will be eventually.
The difference is, Ubuntu users have someone they can call to help fix it.
I've had similar sorts of issues in Debian from time to time, to cover your eyes and go "la la la this never happens in stock debian!" is dishonest at best and ignorant at worst.
This is why when it asks you if you want anti-phishing support turned on, you say no, only when requested:D
Whether or not microsoft use the data they could potentially be collecting is one thing, but providing this service without you sending data to their servers (in the form of a query, from your IP address), is impossible.
One could argue that all of the cddb databases out there are tracking your music listening habits, but no one seems to be up in arms about that:D
Personally, I've gone from Debian stable to testing to unstable with virtually no problems (just some minor font issues during the move to Xorg, but that was about it).
What was that about throwing stones in glass houses?:)
I'm a Debian user (less nowadays, but between bo (1.2), and sid, fairly extensively) - don't you worry, running unstable, you will *eventually* get bitten in the ass in a big way:D
Yes, 99% of the time its reasonably painless (particularly if you track unstable daily or even weekly), but if you leave it a few months then do an update, bad stuff can and occasionally does happen... again, as many have said, particularly if you also track a few of the "unofficial" sources, which are virtually required due to patent/debian policy issues...
If you set your machine up correctly initially (seperate partitions for/usr/local/,/home,/var, others as necessary), a clean install is fairly painless to do without losing any data.
Congrats. You're not really in ubuntu's target audience.
Ubuntu is for those who *can't* or *can't be bothered* setting up debian the way they want, and just want some reasonably sensible defaults:)
Also, Ubuntu is a distro that comes with tech support. Like it or not, but providing decent tech support for something as huge and dynamic as the entire Debian repositry is pretty damn near impossible. I mean sure, there's IRC channels or whatever - but there's also a heap of packages in there that are no longer maintained and obscure...
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I would be considered an "IT professional", have used virtualization since 1998-1999 or so, and I don't understand the "risks" behind running in a virtual machine either perhaps? What risks are they? License non-compliance? Activation problems?
This isn't the issue. The *issue* is that he is promoting it as scientific FACT.
Religion is a set of *beliefs*. You don't *KNOW* them to be true, but you *believe* they are and hope you're right.
My personal opinion of religion (of any form) is that it evolved as a set of stories with morals to guide socially acceptable behavior in the days before the general public could read and write, nothing more. If it works for some people, good for you. For the rest of us, there is our own sense of "right and wrong", and if that doesn't cut it, the rule of law.
People taking *any* religion as a set of indisputable *facts* are missing the point...
For imposing his beliefs on others under threat of eternal torture, teaching beliefs as facts, singling out those not of his religion and persecuting them in the classroom and lying to his superiors, he should be fired.
End of story.
You forgot the essential step of getting your nearest 6 year old kid, or kitten to press the button for you, thereby rendering the agreement null and void :D
... is this news?
Or to even walk up to it with an RPG and fire before its wait for me to "surrender" times-out? :)
Example - i leave a pie in the pie warmer for lunch. Some prick takes it and eats it. Its not my fault it wasn't secured, the source of the problem is some thieving asshole...
You're damn right i expect it not to be stolen.
I work in a small mining community (9 days a fortnight), and quite frequently, we will leave keys in cars, valuables in cars, engine running, doors/windows open, etc and none of it gets stolen. Why? Because if you get caught stealing, you get fired and likely never work in a high paying industry job, ever again... that, and the fact that everyone knows everyone else.
Its not entrapment, no one held a gun to the thieves head and said "steal this or i'll shoot you". Theft is one of those basic right/wrong things you learn as a kid, that these days, seems to be overlooked. I don't care how insecure, unlocked, or otherwise inviting someone else's property is - use/take without their express permission, and you better have a damn good excuse for it (eg, i needed your car to get to the hospital) otherwise it's theft.
They have an internal paper trail eh? And what if it records the vote on the internal paper trail incorrectly?
I think you mean "they're joking".... short for "they are"...
This is microsoft. If they wanted to, they could just employ a few more developers, security reviewers, designers or other people anyway.
Its not like they're short of funds to do so.
This is microsoft's flagship product. Microsoft has a war-chest of billions of dollars, that is still growing last I heard. If they want/need to employ someone, they will...
1 sound geeks pay x 1.5 yrs = anywhere between say 75k and 300k.
A piss in the ocean....
Disclaimer: I am a current/shifting to former php web coder.
I'm not saying I agree with the original post that the war is "over and linux won", i'm merely pointing out the fact that "market share" sales statistics are complete bollocks...
I'll laugh if these clowns camping out to sell ps3s on ebay for 25% markup can't get rid of them :D
Bah. Al Gore INVENTED the intarweb....
The cynic in me says that that is the general idea....
You can (and I do occasionally) fix this by null-routing them on your gateway :)
I have to say i have never had that problem, going from TNT2 -> Geforce 2MX -> Geforce 4 Ti 4200 -> Geforce 6600GT (all AGP, i haven't included my new PCI express Nvidia card).
And why should you accept *THIS* situation for software you have legally purchased? I don't care if its 35 seconds, or 3 hours, if I have to call customer service for permission to use my PC, they can get fucked...
Sorry, but if you're no longer a student, your student licenses are no longer valid, and you're technically running windows illegally. :)
Well, considering you're buying a SOFTWARE license, and the operating system isn't going to be running on your old components, now sitting in the bin... for this purpose I would say yes. Hell, even if its not the SAME computer, its still one software license in use by one person, on *that person's* hardware. I do not see the problem letting users run it on new hardware - other than microsoft being greedy that is.
Debian has problems from time to time as well in unstable, and if you haven't been bitten by them yet, trust me - you will be eventually.
The difference is, Ubuntu users have someone they can call to help fix it.
I've had similar sorts of issues in Debian from time to time, to cover your eyes and go "la la la this never happens in stock debian!" is dishonest at best and ignorant at worst.
This is why when it asks you if you want anti-phishing support turned on, you say no, only when requested :D
Whether or not microsoft use the data they could potentially be collecting is one thing, but providing this service without you sending data to their servers (in the form of a query, from your IP address), is impossible.
One could argue that all of the cddb databases out there are tracking your music listening habits, but no one seems to be up in arms about that :D
I'm no ms-fanboy, but seriously...
What was that about throwing stones in glass houses? :)
I'm a Debian user (less nowadays, but between bo (1.2), and sid, fairly extensively) - don't you worry, running unstable, you will *eventually* get bitten in the ass in a big way :D
Yes, 99% of the time its reasonably painless (particularly if you track unstable daily or even weekly), but if you leave it a few months then do an update, bad stuff can and occasionally does happen... again, as many have said, particularly if you also track a few of the "unofficial" sources, which are virtually required due to patent/debian policy issues...
If you set your machine up correctly initially (seperate partitions for /usr/local/, /home, /var, others as necessary), a clean install is fairly painless to do without losing any data.
Congrats. You're not really in ubuntu's target audience.
Ubuntu is for those who *can't* or *can't be bothered* setting up debian the way they want, and just want some reasonably sensible defaults :)
Also, Ubuntu is a distro that comes with tech support. Like it or not, but providing decent tech support for something as huge and dynamic as the entire Debian repositry is pretty damn near impossible. I mean sure, there's IRC channels or whatever - but there's also a heap of packages in there that are no longer maintained and obscure...