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PS3 Lines Already Forming In America

Wowzer writes "Nine days until Sony's PlayStation 3 launches in America, and lines are already forming. From the article: "Someone went to Best Buy this morning and saw about 7 people waiting outside. He went inside and one of the workers told him that they had been there since Monday. It must be a tough job being such big PS3 fans and being the butt of many passer-by jokes like 'Where is the line for PS4? Is it on the other side?'"

452 comments

  1. I think... by Xaer0cool · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The editor has been smoking a bit too much of the 'bud'.

    1. Re:I think... by SuperPunch · · Score: 1

      Actually, they have been lined up sense monday. (11.06.06) I believe this is where it first appeared. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php ?t=114295 (someone saw them on the way to a job interview.)

    2. Re:I think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Why should a game system for kids make the front page? This is supposed to be a technical site, not something for 12 year-olds.

    3. Re:I think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, he's likely to become the 'bud' of a great many jokes if he carries on like this.

    4. Re:I think... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The editor has been smoking a bit too much of the 'bud'.

      Ok, now it makes sense, you have to smoke it! I always knew that the stuff was not meant to be guzzled. Though I find it highly uncomfortable to offer it in rather highly hydrated form, after all it would require a lenghty drying process. But maybe that's how they preserve the flavor.

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    5. Re:I think... by Terminus32 · · Score: 0

      Either that or he's been smoking Salvia or DMT!

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    6. Re:I think... by frostedg · · Score: 1

      And you don't smoke enough.

  2. Jokes? by onion2k · · Score: 5, Funny

    It must be a tough job being such big PS3 fans and being the bud of many passer-by jokes like 'Where is the line for PS4? Is it on the other side?'

    I'm not a fan of the PS3, and I'd find it tough to listen to a 'joke' like that.

    1. Re:Jokes? by aarku · · Score: 1

      The funniest jokes are the ones that people react the most negative to. Troll 101, come on!

    2. Re:Jokes? by McWilde · · Score: 1

      I've recently discovered that replying to misguided attempts at humor with "I hope you're not joking, because that wasn't funny at all" really annoys would be jokers.

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    3. Re:Jokes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it were me, I'd open up a seriously large can of woop ass and go mental on him and pop a crack upside his head.
      Either that or I'd come back with "Your momma" or similar brilliant comment.
      Then I'd sit back and cry because someone stole my bike...I suspect one of the Slashdot editors.
      Then I'd realize that I wasn't standing in line for a PS3 at all and it was all a dream and I was actually CEO of Nintendo

    4. Re:Jokes? by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

      It wasn't even funny. Why would dedicated fans be waiting in line for a PS3 when the PS4 is out, according to the joke?

      I heard that there are two stores giving away PS3's for free. One is giving away like 6 and the other is giving away 100. So except some PS3 murders in the news on the 17th.

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    5. Re:Jokes? by creepynut · · Score: 1

      Just walk around back. There might really be a line forming.

    6. Re:Jokes? by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I'm no Bill Engvall, but to all these people waiting on line I'd like to say: "Here's your sign!"

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    7. Re:Jokes? by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      With due respect to Bill Engvall, I'd just say to these people "Here's your sign!"

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    8. Re:Jokes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh man, they smell like Wii! *rim shot*

      Thank you, I'll be here all night, try the veal.

  3. Damnit... by TrippTDF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week?? Are you taking vacation time from work? Are you unemployed? Unemployable? And why the hell would you stand in a line for a week even if you had the time? Stupid kids and their rock music.

    1. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best gamers are unemployed so it should come as no surprise they are able to queue up over a week in advance. It's a bit cold but I am coping.

    2. Re:Damnit... by Barny · · Score: 1

      "Are you unemployed? Unemployable?"

      Not if they can afford to buy one! Ba-dum-ching!

      Thank you, thank you, your all too kind ^_^

      So, uh, have the smashmy...com guys got a spot in one of those lines? :)

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    3. Re:Damnit... by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1

      To me it kinda doesn't make sense, as you could preorder hardware. If I preorder a PS3 couldn't I just walk in when it's out and sales stuff would hand it over, no matter how many people are in the shop that didn't preorder? Maybe they are hired by some marketing company on behalf of Sony?

    4. Re:Damnit... by Konster · · Score: 1

      Employeds might take annual vacation time to stand in line...which might make sense if they had 1)2 weeks time saved up, 2)Make less than $500 a week, 3)Are able to sell them on Ebay for 1k over purchase price, 4)Are actually willing to sell them soon as they get them. ...still, breaking even or better than that still doesn't make up for spending 2 weeks outside of a building waiting for an electronics device.

    5. Re:Damnit... by Cerium · · Score: 1

      I imagine these are the people who have already sold several PS3s on ebay. It would seem that finacing isn't a problem so much as meeting their expected shipping quota.

      Then again, I could be wrong. They could be your stereotype single nerd living out of their parent's basement.

    6. Re:Damnit... by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

      If you think about it, this makes a lot of sense. Go figure, the demographic that's willing to buy that overpriced game console is the demographic of unemployed kids who's parents give them enough money to have a thousand dollar vacation in front of a Best Buy.

      Fuck the fancy new toy. Go to Costa Rica or something.

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    7. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week??

      Probably when you're paid by the Sony marketing division to do so.

    8. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. It would be so much easier if they would just freeze themselves and thaw out in a couple of days. The time is only going to get slower as it becomes closer to the release date. It will be like Christmas times one hundred.

    9. Re:Damnit... by natd · · Score: 1

      I've been hotelling in the US for 6 weeks doing nothing (I like a nothing break every few years from my day job n AU).....I shoulda been in that line...

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    10. Re:Damnit... by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Easy. It's called being a contestant on The Apprentice :)

    11. Re:Damnit... by wud · · Score: 1

      Why can't Sony just sell the first 200,000 straight from the factory doors. They'll be plenty of demand and it'll save on overheads.


      Plus it will make the line seem alot cooler.

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    12. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean you don't live off your parents and in their basement?

    13. Re:Damnit... by spagetti_code · · Score: 1

      This is marketing...
      These guys are paid to be there.

    14. Re:Damnit... by ospirata · · Score: 1

      I wonder how could they stay those 11 days on the line, without playing their PS2.

    15. Re:Damnit... by Lissajous · · Score: 1
      Stupid kids and their rock music.

      Hey...if they're in line outside Best Buy, at least they got off our goddamned lawns!
    16. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could they just be homeless people?

    17. Re:Damnit... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      What is it with the US people and waiting in lines for weeks anyway ? This doesn't happen anywhere else.

      Is it some kind of homage to the days past when there was a rumour that there would be some toilet paper in a USSR store or what ? Are there some "line generating" particles that are now floating free since the fall of the eastern bloc and that somehow fixated in the US ?

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    18. Re:Damnit... by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're not so stupid - these are the same people who'll be on Ebay making 500% profit on these things when xmas shoppers/early adopters can't buy them in the stores...

    19. Re:Damnit... by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      Doh! There's something called remote access, and you can use 3g / wifi / gprs / whatever rocks your socks.... It's not that hard to imagine, is it?

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    20. Re:Damnit... by Jussi+K.+Kojootti · · Score: 1

      Look at the bright side: When they're standing in that line, they're off your lawn.

    21. Re:Damnit... by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      highly likely they're Sony employees being paid to queue and pretend to be customers...

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    22. Re:Damnit... by Fozzyuw · · Score: 1

      1) They're probably not fans, but eBayers (if they were fans, it would have been easy enough to get a pre-order) 2) They where probably lying about waiting for PS3's

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    23. Re:Damnit... by friar_athanasius · · Score: 1

      sudo apt-get dist upgrade ps3

    24. Re:Damnit... by Renraku · · Score: 1

      Paid vacations are a wonderful thing. Pay for most of your PS3 and camp out too!

      I had originally planned to take one of my many PTO days to retrieve/play the PS3, but then I remembered assholes like this ensuring that there's no way in hell I'd get one.

      Even if the preorders hadn't run out 30 seconds after the doors opened for stores that were taking them, and I somehow managed to get one.

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    25. Re:Damnit... by sacrilicious · · Score: 1
      How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week??

      Exactly. And who the hell would want these machines so badly? This thing smells like a fictitious promo piece, in exactly the same vein as previous "reporting" on "toothing" (the alleged practice of hooking up with strangers for sex using bluetooth phones), or that BS about strangers in places like Central Park just walking up to each other, not saying a word, and jacking into each others' ipods (oooh, the sensuality of not talking!). bah.

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    26. Re:Damnit... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

      ... How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week?? Are you taking vacation time from work? Are you unemployed? Unemployable? And why the hell would you stand in a line for a week even if you had the time? Stupid kids and their rock music.

      I think it's implicit that the kids doing this aren't in the same demographic as people who have "jobs."

    27. Re:Damnit... by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      .. How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week?? Are you taking vacation time from work? Are you unemployed?

      Guess some of you didn't watch the recent episode of South Park where they had a WoW player who had no life and did nothing but play the game. Based on the photos, I don't think it's much of a stretch to guess that "Fat Boy" is probably living in Momma's basement, so no need for rent money there. It probably wasn't that hard to get 2 weeks off from Domino's or to just quit outright and then apply for a delivery job with a competitor after he picks up the PS3.

    28. Re:Damnit... by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1

      How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week??

      The same reason as to why you can afford a PS3 in the first place!

      *Ba da ba dum psshhhh!*

      Thank you! I'm here all night, try the veal!

    29. Re:Damnit... by Agent00Wang · · Score: 1

      They're probably part time workers/college kids for the most part. Maybe some of them are even employees of the store. Just sleep outside then go in to work!

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    30. Re:Damnit... by Ucidalin · · Score: 1

      Well, it is probably cheaper to take a week off work than shell out $2000 - 3500 for the PS3 on eBay.
      Or if you are selling it on eBay you will make more in that week than if you had went to work.

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    31. Re:Damnit... by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Even losers can have wealthy parents.

    32. Re:Damnit... by Borland · · Score: 1

      There is nothing you are not willing to do when you feel the force. Star Wars, PS3, or Tickle Me Elmo, obsession cares not.

    33. Re:Damnit... by Manchot · · Score: 1

      If you go to the forum that the article references, you'll see that the poster says that the picture was taken in Burbank, CA. Probably not coincidentally, Sony Pictures Entertainment is located nearby, in Culver City. My guess? These are out-of-work actors being employed by Sony to pretend to line up for the PS3.

    34. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid kids and their rock music.

      Whoa there. I can't let someone say that.

      Rock music is and has always been about chicks, boose and fast cars. Period. Blame rock for suicides, alcoholism and hairy drummer asses all you want, but never did any band ever encourage lining up for a week to buy a PS3.

      Where did you hear that? "For those about to rock, Wii salute you"? "Stairway to Tekken"? "Shout at the Remote"? "Enter fatman"?

      Rock rocks, man. :)

    35. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, I like how a post that says, and I quote, "Stupid kids and their rock music." got modded interesting.

    36. Re:Damnit... by milamber3 · · Score: 1

      Maybe they do have jobs. It's possible this is some publicity stunt by Sony to generate some more interest and try to convince people the PS3 is actually worth $600. They probably expect people to think something like, "woah, if these guys will wait for 2 weeks for a PS3 it must be good, maybe I should get one."

    37. Re:Damnit... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, the Democrats are back in power. They'll be OK.

      Seriously, though. I've never been able to understand that. I'm as much of fanboy of some things (though not consoles) as you can find, but I cannot imagine standing in line for a week to do anything. If that isn't a sign of mental illness I don't know what is.

      I look forward with great anticipation to many movies, musical releases and software releases, but you know what? I've got so many other things going on in my life that I don't need to sit around and wait. There's always something else I need to do or want to do (like posting on /.). Really, the words "Get A Life" have never been more appropriate.

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    38. Re:Damnit... by Feefers · · Score: 1

      If I was there I could easily take a week vacation knowing that I could easily bribe the cashier to let me buy 3 rather then 1, costing me say $150 for the bribe and $1,000 for the PS3's Assuming I don't keep one for myself I can for the small expenditure of $1,150 expect to see a massive return 24 hours later when they are sold out, everywhere and I can offer them on E-bay for ... I wouldn't even want to guess at this point, say $4,100. Oh and if i'm smart i'll get on television and in the paper, then I can sell my story also and get some more cash as well as be the envy of geeks everywhere.

    39. Re:Damnit... by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      They're self-employed ebay sellers, obviously. They probably figure that the profits from their one week of standing in line will equal months of their regular sales. Personally, I think it may backfire on them. Too many people heard about profits from xbox 360 and want to get in on the action. I think there may be more sellers than buyers on ebay this time around bringing bid prices down big time.

    40. Re:Damnit... by Total_Wimp · · Score: 1
      Stupid kids and their rock music.

      That's funny. My daughter was going to camp out in a pre-order line, much to the dismay of my girlfriend. She just didnt' understand it. Only when the comparison was made to camping out to hear your favorite band did she start to get it.

      I know a lot of Slashdotters hate Sony and would like to see the PS3 suffer abismal failure, but it's worth noting that people don't line up unless they anticipate high demand. Lining up a week in advance signals fanaticism. Whith this kind of message being sent to them, I doubt that Sony execs are terribly worried about any boycott at this point.

      TW
    41. Re:Damnit... by IdleTime · · Score: 1

      I just wonder how much Sony paid these people to wait in line. Nice PR stunt!

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    42. Re:Damnit... by SoapDish · · Score: 1

      If they're unemployed, then they couldn't afford the console. I assume they're just playing hookie, or they have rich spouses and parents.

      I say we somehow modify the PS3 to make these people become productive members of society. That, or kill them.

    43. Re:Damnit... by phoric · · Score: 1

      That's easy, they're employed by Sony.

    44. Re:Damnit... by TavisJohn · · Score: 1

      How can an of those types of people (Sans the ones on "Vacation" even afford a $600.00 system!!!! After the fist fights over the XBOX on release day, I do not even want to try to get a WII this year. I'll ask for one for my Birthday if I really feel I want it.

    45. Re:Damnit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh, what you fail to understand is that anyone that can actually afford a PS3 can afford to do just about whatever the hell they want.

  4. Here's an idea by jlebrech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why can't Sony just sell the first 200,000 straight from the factory doors. They'll be plenty of demand and it'll save on overheads.

    1. Re:Here's an idea by Renegade88 · · Score: 1

      Logistically that makes perfect sense, but I think that would highly irritate their distributors. As much as lines like this would seem annoying for the store, they probably like the hype. That hype probable does generate pre-orders, backorders, and interest for casual customers not aware the PS3 is nearing launch.

    2. Re:Here's an idea by Osty · · Score: 1

      Why can't Sony just sell the first 200,000 straight from the factory doors. They'll be plenty of demand and it'll save on overheads.

      Because the factories are in China? Though I guess if you can afford a PS3, you can afford to fly to China and camp the factory ...

    3. Re:Here's an idea by vidarh · · Score: 1

      Because it would piss off their distributors and resellers, who they depend on to keep the sales high.

    4. Re:Here's an idea by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Because then they'll piss off their customers. And Sony's customers aren't you or me, they're WalMart, Best Buy et al.

    5. Re:Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they want to sell them in the US rather than China for some inexplicable reason

    6. Re:Here's an idea by zzztkf · · Score: 1

      Most of their factories are located in remote area. Huge disadvantage to get mass-media coverage.

    7. Re:Here's an idea by Alaria+Phrozen · · Score: 1

      The problem with that idea is some jackass kid with a CD ripper would convert his whole PS3 to MP3 and post it on the internet. Then everybody would have one before it even officially launched!

    8. Re:Here's an idea by Zwets · · Score: 1

      Because they need retailers on their side. Retailers want people to come to the store, buy a PS3, buy some games, and return to the same store later to buy more games.

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    9. Re:Here's an idea by creepynut · · Score: 1

      Scenario: You are Best Buy. Sony decides instead of selling the PS3 through you, they sell them directly to make themselves more money. These customers, instead of going into your store to purchase the PS3, and most likely other things as well (think: accessories, games) are no longer in your store.

      Are you happy with this?

    10. Re:Here's an idea by jlebrech · · Score: 1

      The question would be, is Sony happy with this? The actual gist of the idea, is that they would have less trouble with Beginning Of Line products, and the factories could close shop once the production had gained some steam. Then when it is available in the stores there's enough for everyone, and the fanboys who are silly enough to fly to Japan or a USA factory somewhere are happy too.

    11. Re:Here's an idea by Neoncow · · Score: 1

      They won't be able to get the same amount of media attention. If there are fans lining up weeks ahead of time and all the stores sell out within an hour, it gets lots of media attention. If they sell out quietly, then people don't even get to see it in the stores. Remember that most people aren't actively paying attention to game console news. Instead, they will see advertisements in stores or hear about the massive sellout in the nightly news.

    12. Re:Here's an idea by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 1

      They are not made in America... Their main factory may be in China, Malasia or Taiwan

    13. Re:Here's an idea by writermike · · Score: 1

      Why can't Sony just sell the first 200,000 straight from the factory doors. They'll be plenty of demand and it'll save on overheads.

      Neat idea. And they could hand out golden tickets in some of the other products (CDs, for instance). Kaz Hirai comes out the factor, bearing a cane...

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    14. Re:Here's an idea by smaddox · · Score: 1

      I believe the reason is that the retailers would kill them. Retail stores dont make money off of system sales, them make money off of accessories and games. The system brings the customers to the store.

    15. Re:Here's an idea by archen · · Score: 1

      Think that might piss off the stores that would expect to sell the PS3 a little? People still need the games so that would be extra cash for the stores. I'm pretty sure just selling them from the factory occurred to Sony, but distributing them in the regular channels is probably akin to an act of good will towards their distribution chains. And at this point Sony needs all the good will it can get so the entire ship doesn't sink.

    16. Re:Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, those overheads can get pretty pricey.

    17. Re:Here's an idea by porkThreeWays · · Score: 1

      Because Sony isn't Willie Wonka and the PS3 isn't a chocolate factory.

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    18. Re:Here's an idea by Technomonics · · Score: 1

      If I were working for Best Buy, my store would have a PS2 competition, one in which you would vie for the opportunity to buy a PS3 on the launch date. Everyone gets a single chance at one initially, and you can win more by playing PS2 games and competing in a tournament. Well, at least it sounds good on paper- get people in the store, get them to peruse the PS2 game selection and maybe sell through a few PS2 systems in the meantime. People waiting outside a store for over a week borders on loitering, and I would not want a bunch of "campers" making my store look like the soup kitchen on the other end of town. At some point, there will probably be an incident that will stop this from being done, like someone getting seriously ill and then suing Best Buy for allowing it to happen. Oh well, just some random thoughts... -kevin

    19. Re:Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if the geeks go to China just for that...

  5. dept. by Halo1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    from the get-a-life dept.

    Says the Slashdot editor...

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    1. Re:dept. by Konster · · Score: 1

      This tag should read:

      Dude, you really, really, really need to get a life.

    2. Re:dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is that funny? Are you saying Slashdot editors are actually doing anything all day long?

    3. Re:dept. by ayjay29 · · Score: 1

      >>from the get-a-life dept.

      >>Says the Slashdot editor...

      You know you have a problem in life when a Slashdot Editor tells you to get a life.

      It's like Pete Doherty telling you that you do too much drugs.

      I think we finally have something to go under "People who write erotic versions of Star Trek where all the characters are furries. Like Kirk is an ocelot or something, and put a furry version of themselves as the star of the story." in the Geek Hierarchy chart.

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    4. Re:dept. by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      You make it sound like they proofread and check to see if they're dupes....

    5. Re:dept. by SoapDish · · Score: 1

      Do I sense bias? From a Slashdot Editor? I would have never thought such a thing possible!

    6. Re:dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      from the get-a-life dept.
      Says the Slashdot editor...

      Says the Slashdot poster to the Slashdot editor...

    7. Re:dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...a man paid to do a job.

  6. Actually... by SuperPunch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually it looks like the started monday. (11.06.06) I believe this thread was the first: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php ?t=114295 Quote from the post: "I went to Best Buy this morning for a job interview (got the job, but it's seasonal) and I saw about 7 people waiting outside. I went inside and one of the workers told me that they had been there since Monday. Do these people have no lives? The awesome thing was, as I was waiting outside, I saw a bunch of people coming to Best Buy and picking up Gears of War. A few people made some funny remarks. One guy is like, "I hope you guys brought enough food!" Another one said, "Where is the line for PS4? Is it on the other side?""

    1. Re:Actually... by DreamingReal · · Score: 1
      I saw a bunch of people coming to Best Buy and picking up Gears of War. A few people made some funny remarks. One guy is like, "I hope you guys brought enough food!" Another one said, "Where is the line for PS4? Is it on the other side?"



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  7. Mad by herczy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oookay... So they spend 7 days. And hygiene stayed at home. And it got to be very unhealty. But, I suppose, if you like something, 7 days are not so much.

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    1. Re:Mad by jimicus · · Score: 1

      A games console and its accessories are only as good as the games that are released for it. Cf. DreamCast, Mega CD, Super Nintendoscope, Sega Menacer.

    2. Re:Mad by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      They could be sitting at home, playing with their PS2. You think that would make any difference, in terms of health or hygiene, in people willing to waste away a week of their life for a console?

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    3. Re:Mad by A+Wise+Guy · · Score: 1

      I'd be wearing gloves if I were to ring up the bill on one of these smelly bastards. Imagine all the fecal matter between the fingernails and coming contact with the benjamins!?

    4. Re:Mad by herczy · · Score: 1

      Yuck, I don't wanna think what these guys do to avoid going to the bathroom. Catheters?

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    5. Re:Mad by Van+Cutter+Romney · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they take turns. I do this usually on the night before the Black Friday sale with a bunch of friends. But you can't stand in 20F doing nothing for more than 1 hour no matter how many layers you have on. So we take turns, get coffee and stuff like that.

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    6. Re:Mad by twistedsymphony · · Score: 1

      Considering these people are so madly obsessed with the PS3 I wonder what will happen if that Best Buy gets a playable Kiosk in the next few days... meanwhile people can walk in and play it but they're stuck outside. They are coming a few stores near me already have the kiosks sitting there just sans-console.

  8. Holding tables at the food court by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I went to eat with a bunch of friends at a mall food court and noticed an optimization problem. All the seats were full. Some people who were carrying food were forced to walk around looking for tables while others were 'holding' tables waiting for other members of their party to buy and bring back food.

    By essentially creating a semaphore on the tables, the 'holders' were forcing a backlog of 'eaters'. By taking the resource and not using it, they blocked other users who would be ready to use the table immediately. With more 'eaters' coming out of line, the more crowded and backed up the general flow of customers got.

    By sitting in line for a PS3, you're perhaps creating a slight advantage for yourself, but you are unoptimizing the situation for everyone else. You don't smell nice either, and you look like vagrants standing around in front of Best Buy.

    1. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Exitthree · · Score: 1

      In your analogy, it would be Sony causing the backlog, not the people in line. You have a producers and consumers problem and the consumers are actual consumers. It seems fairly trivial to figure out who the producers would be.

      Are you arguing, then, that Sony should release the PS3 because people are waiting for it?

    2. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 1

      You think you're being clever, but you fail at analyzing the PS3 queue correctly.

      The table queue has two different ways of queuing, where they stand around waiting for a table and one where the table is taken prior to getting food. The former is optimal, while the latter isn't. This is because the table has a period of time where it is not being used for its primary purpose, eating.

      Where in the PS3 queue does any inefficiency off PS3 distribution accrue? The PS3's will be distributed at the same pace no matter how many decide to camp out for a week. If you're just pissed cause someone else with more dedication will get one before you, why not just say so instead of making up some bad armchair analysis of the situation?

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    3. Re:Holding tables at the food court by kjart · · Score: 1
      By sitting in line for a PS3, you're perhaps creating a slight advantage for yourself, but you are unoptimizing the situation for everyone else. You don't smell nice either, and you look like vagrants standing around in front of Best Buy.

      It is not the people waiting in line that are causing/will cause a backlog, it is Sony - they are the ones that have created a semaphore on the PS3. The people waiting in line will simply be the first eaters to get a table, to borrow from your metaphor (i.e. all consumers are eaters, here, none are holders).

      Whats worse is, from what I've heard, Sony is deliberately providing an inadequate number of tables so that not everyone will be able to sit - thankfully, the nice people at Nintendo are passing out barstools, so only the foolish will wait for a table :)

    4. Re:Holding tables at the food court by ID000001 · · Score: 1

      That analogy make no god damn sense at all BadAnalo...gy...guy. Ok. Nevermind. Just nevermind. Why the hell is this not modded "Funny" instead? What do I pay you modder for?

    5. Re:Holding tables at the food court by kjart · · Score: 1
      By sitting in line for a PS3, you're perhaps creating a slight advantage for yourself, but you are unoptimizing the situation for everyone else. You don't smell nice either, and you look like vagrants standing around in front of Best Buy.

      It is not the people waiting in line that are causing/will cause a backlog, it is Sony - they are the ones that have created a semaphore on the PS3. The people waiting in line will simply be the first eaters to get a table, to borrow from your metaphor (i.e. all consumers are eaters, here, none are holders).

      Whats worse is, from what I've heard, Sony is deliberately providing an inadequate number of tables so that not everyone will be able to sit - thankfully, the nice people at Nintendo are passing out barstools, so only the foolish will wait for a table :)

      (I already posted this reply, but it seems to have disappeared.)

    6. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Quaz+and+Wally · · Score: 1
      Very good points, but I don't think they match up quite the same way.

      By taking the resource and not using it, they blocked other users who would be ready to use the table immediately.
      But the thing is nobody else would be ready to purchase the PS3, because it is not yet available. Perhaps you are talking about how some of these people may only be interested in reselling the PS3 closer to Christmas, in which case your analogy nails it. Poor PS3 fans deprived by opportunists buying them only to hold it from them until demand rises.

      All in all, I don't think there's anything wrong, per se, with waiting in line for anything for a week or two. I do, however, believe it is a serious waste of time. Even if you were paid only $7 an hour and only worked 20 hours a week, that would be an additional opportunity cost of $140 on top of your $600 purchase. As for the rest of the hours of your week, it depends on what you'd normally spend that time doing.

      Seems really ridiculous considering what they're waiting for. Probably just Sony employees like others have been saying.
    7. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By essentially creating a semaphore on the tables, the 'holders' were forcing a backlog of 'eaters'. By taking the resource and not using it, they blocked other users who would be ready to use the table immediately.

      Is was those bloody philosophers again!

    8. Re:Holding tables at the food court by baadger · · Score: 1

      Yeah, except a queue can be of an an infinite length is naturally dispatched on a first come first serve basis. It has an order of process that cannot be changed.

      I believe your table hogging analogy wrong. It is more along the lines of pre-allocating memory or fetching resources before you absolutely need them, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Put it this way, why buy the food if you can't get a table at which to eat it? And why queuue for hours and hours and hours and then *not* get a PS3 *if* you can afford to spend a week lazing about and then are almost be guaranteed to get your hands on one?

      No it seems to me that the table hoggers are being far more optimal and you are not. They are using the resources available to them (people) more wisely by allocating themselves a table and a position in the queue for food *simultaneously.* Multithreaded fast food baby.

    9. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Worminater · · Score: 1
      Just to confir my puzzlement at your comparison;


      Sitting in line at the store provides us normal people with endless seconds of merriment; and aside from dealing with the possible odor while walking past; how does it "unoptimize" the situation for anyone aside from those whom want to get there when the store opens and get theirs?


      Your discovery of the inefficient food court does not parallel this situation in my mind; I would like a bit more clarification if I am missing something?

    10. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, your post certainly lived up to your username.

    11. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

      If these places are anything like my town, you can just call the cops, say there's a large group of people loitering, and get them all moved on and lose their position in line. A few times of doing that, they're not staying ;-)

    12. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your argument is fundamentally flawed.

      You definitely are a BadAnalogyGuy

    13. Re:Holding tables at the food court by jason.hall · · Score: 1

      Re: By sitting in line for a PS3, you're perhaps creating a slight advantage for yourself, but you are unoptimizing the situation for everyone else.

      The whole point for these people is that they create a slight advantage for themselves. It's similar to people cutting around a traffic jam. They're a few cars ahead, which is all that matters to them. That everyone behind is now one car back doesn't concern them.

    14. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least your Nick is truthful.

    15. Re:Holding tables at the food court by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Who is having their situation 'unoptimized' by some dumbass sitting against a wall for a week?

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    16. Re:Holding tables at the food court by packeteer · · Score: 1

      You should read about game theory. You need to consider there are two answers to a competative situation. One in which the overall benefit is maximied and the one in which the individual benefit is maximized. We as a society aim for the individual. You are right though that if more people were not trying to maximize their personal benefit then everyone together would have a better situation.

      Read about the Prisoner's dilemma.

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    17. Re:Holding tables at the food court by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      I can't figure out how you got Score: 5 Interesting
      What the hell does your food court story have to do with people waiting in line for the PS3? The people in line aren't preventing anyone else from getting in line for anything (except for the PS3, which is the entire point of lining up). It's not like these people waiting in line are preventing other people from getting their PS3's in the mean time.

      The only way your story could be applicable would be if...when the doors open in a few weeks and these people rush in...half of the people ran in and grabbed all the PS3's and the other half ran in and grabbed all the games. The people holding the systems would have no games to play, and the people with the games would have no systems to play it on. If the people with the games gave them up, there would be more games by the time the next shipment of PS3s came in, and everyone would be happy.

      That's the only way your story would apply. Otherwise, people waiting in line aren't unoptimizing anything.

      The part about the smell and appearance....well, I can't argue with that. But the rest of your post doesn't apply

    18. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's purely lack of education what you described. I'm happy that in my country shopping centers which suffer that problem are the ones infested by British. Maybe it's an English speaking problem?

    19. Re:Holding tables at the food court by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      Anyone who has studied queueing theory, or put a chair out in front of their house to save a parking space, can see the flaw in your logic. The saved spaces are for the freinds of the diners - therefore, they have priority over the newcomers. Same for the people willing to wait in line - its a classic cost/benefit trade off. If they are unemployed, time is essentially free, but paying an extra $1000 on eBay to buy a PS3 costs $1000. Math seems pretty simple to me.

    20. Re:Holding tables at the food court by greenkite71 · · Score: 1

      That really is a bad analogy. The PS3 "holders" are nothing like the food court holders, because while everyone in the food court could get something to eat, no one can get a PS3. The PS3 holders are only preventing others from getting a PS3 *before they do*, which really is the point of a line (and if you can argue against a line as an equitable distribution method, I'm all ears).

    21. Re:Holding tables at the food court by bazorg · · Score: 1

      And at US$600 a pop, in this case there is a chance that there are more tables than holders. That should be interesting when a late-coming eater walks past the smelly crowd, picks a box and leaves.

    22. Re:Holding tables at the food court by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 1

      But by sitting in line for a PS3, you're perhaps creating a slight ADVANTAGE for YOURSELF.

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    23. Re:Holding tables at the food court by kieran · · Score: 1

      Surely when all the tables are full, those "holding" tables get ignored by those with food?

    24. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      It's the classic Dining Pedants problem!

    25. Re:Holding tables at the food court by trosenbl · · Score: 1
      I went to eat with a bunch of friends at a mall food court and noticed an optimization problem. All the seats weren't full. Some people who were carrying food were forced to walk around looking for tables while others were 'holding' tables waiting for other members of their party to buy and bring back food.

      By essentially creating a semaphore on the tables, the 'holders' were forcing a backlog of 'eaters'. By taking the resource and not using it, they blocked other users who would be ready to use the table immediately. With more 'eaters' coming out of line, the more crowded and backed up the general flow of customers got.


      I think you meant that. But yes, that's a good application of Computer Science to a problem. Think about the knowledge in the CompSci field about semaphores, and how they might be applied to solve this food court problem.

      To all the people who ever wonder what CompSci is about, and how it's different from IT -- this is nearly it. Applying Maths to solve problems.
    26. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      You need to take a break from coding, dude. Seriously.

    27. Re:Holding tables at the food court by typobox43 · · Score: 1

      Your username really does say it all, doesn't it.

    28. Re:Holding tables at the food court by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      >but you are unoptimizing the situation for everyone else.

      Considering these guys are going to flip these things on ebay, I seriously doubt they care.

    29. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Kent+Simon · · Score: 1

      I dunno... sounds like a bad analogy...(guy)

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    30. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not a goog analogy.
      By standing in line early you are not unoptimizing anything, because you are not blocking any resource for others that would be otherwise used. A soon as the resource (PS3) gets available they will get one, since they don't have to wait for the food to come (they already have the money). As I see it, in this case there are not two resources (table and food) that you need to grab, there is only one, so no extra waiting.

    31. Re:Holding tables at the food court by milamber3 · · Score: 1

      You whole semaphore analogy is wrong for this situation. If PS3's were available and these guys were standing in line blocking access but for whatever reason not buying the units then you would have been right on. That is obviously not the case, even if they got out of line no one else could buy a PS3 any faster.

    32. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well done. I doubt anyone will come up with a worse analogy.

    33. Re:Holding tables at the food court by revery · · Score: 1

      By essentially creating a semaphore on the tables, the 'holders' were forcing a backlog of 'eaters'. By taking the resource and not using it, they blocked other users who would be ready to use the table immediately. With more 'eaters' coming out of line, the more crowded and backed up the general flow of customers got.

      Ah, but you see, the people who were holding the tables, also had someone in line, so they were multi-threaded, increasing efficiency. But don't get me started on the people who grabbed a table, but forgot to put someone in line and just hung until someone killed their process...

      Also, I have to say that when you tried to connect this to the people standing in line for the PS3, you lost me completely...

    34. Re:Holding tables at the food court by cabra771 · · Score: 1

      That's the nerdiest analogy I've seen on here in quite a while.

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    35. Re:Holding tables at the food court by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Besides, it's stupid to wait out in front of best buy when you could go to some store that nobody else would ever think of going to to pick up a PS3. The electronics stores are going to be sold out in no time. Go to something less suspecting like Sears.

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    36. Re:Holding tables at the food court by orasio · · Score: 1

      It's not a communist country, it's the US.
      You are supposed to be self-interested, if you want the system to work.

    37. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Ninjaesque+One · · Score: 1

      . . . But there is no resource yet. It will also be extremely limited; perhaps one million for 300 million people. In a time of scarcity, it makes quite a lot of sense to create some advantage to yourself.

      I do concede the stinkiness and the vagrancy, though.

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    38. Re:Holding tables at the food court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there some reason you can't be social and say "mind if I sit here" at a food court? At the least they could say it's reserved, but if they're not holding the entire table then 9 times out of 10 they'll be okay with you sitting at their table. Hell, you might even meet some friends.

  9. The hype machine by slim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure this is astroturf. Just like for movies, publishers pay people to form queues and get on the TV news.

    Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.

    I'm getting a Wii on Euro launch day, and I fully expect to queue for no more than 5 minutes, wave my preorder receipt at the attendant, and walk out with a Wii.

    1. Re:The hype machine by jchenx · · Score: 1
      Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.
      Apparently you haven't heard. Even pre-orders were extremely limited, and there were lots of folks camping out for those. And unfortunately for even many of those folks, they ended up still not getting one.

      So, the alternative for these fanbois are to buy an overpriced one from eBay, or take off work and camp out for two weeks.

      Personally, I choose none of the above. :) It's stupid to buy a console at launch. The reviews are already rolling in, and it looks like the games are mediocre at best.
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    2. Re:The hype machine by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.

      Considering that the preorders were sold out at everywhere that offered them within an extremely short amount of time, and that the quantities Sony is releasing are not large, I don't think it's that unrealistic.

      There ARE people out there who really just have no lives. Hell, I work with someone who 100% WOULD be doing it if he didn't have the job, and even that is barely holding him back.

    3. Re:The hype machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could also have something to do with the fact that Nintendo is shipping 8 times the total amount Sony is shipping (4 million vs 500k).

      Apparently 4 million is the biggest shipment ever for a launch, so I would be surprised if people starting selling out on the first day.

    4. Re:The hype machine by BennyB2k4 · · Score: 1

      What if there are not enough machines to fill the pre-orders? I could see this being very likely with the cuts that were made already. Then it will be first come first served for the pre-orders, hence the folks in line.

    5. Re:The hype machine by poisonfruitloops · · Score: 1

      I hear that! Except in australia for me. I'm hoping they'l have a ps3 demo here in aus soon, not that i'd buy one, but i'd like to check it out to see if it justifies the price.

    6. Re:The hype machine by dlZ · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure this is astroturf. Just like for movies, publishers pay people to form queues and get on the TV news.

      Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.

      I'm getting a Wii on Euro launch day, and I fully expect to queue for no more than 5 minutes, wave my preorder receipt at the attendant, and walk out with a Wii.


      Exactly! I have a buddy who buys pretty much every system at release. He pre-orders everything, and has never really had a problem waiting just a few moments to get in, wave his pre-order slip, and walk out with his new system. I know he already has his Wii payed for, and every game/addition that will be out at release.

      The thing I find hilarious is he ISN'T getting a PS3 at release. This guy even bought a Jaguar the first day. He pretty much works just to pay rent and buy video games. He said that he's not that impressed with the offering so far. He plans to keep his next gen gaming to just his Xbox 360 and Wii, and maybe buy a PS3 after a few price drops in a few years. And he's one of those those adults that you wonder what's wrong with them when you notice he has a DS and a PSP with him at all times, usually with another bag slung over his shoulder containing at least his 360 and a pile of games.

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    7. Re:The hype machine by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      I'm not saying you're wrong about people being paid to stand in line. But Best Buy doesn't sell preorders and with the supply of PS3's being so dismal, most game stores only had 3-5 to sell and those preorders were generally gone quickly. Depends on the area.

      I'll be hanging out at Best Buy an hour before they open on the 19th to get my Wii, but that's all the effort I'll put into it.

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    8. Re:The hype machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming it's truth - they probably -did- preorder. With Sony's ever dwindling supply of PS3s that are going to be available on launch day, I bet we're looking at another Xbox 360 situation once it's released, with most of the preorders sitting around for months before they get theirs.

    9. Re:The hype machine by torchdragon · · Score: 1

      The problem with the PS3 is that the pre-order doesn't guarantee you a PS3. My local GameStop manager told me that all that you were guaranteed with a pre-order ticket was a place to stand in line. So not only did you have to wait at obscene hours in the morning to get your pre-order, you now have to wait an obscene amount of time in order to actually get the benefit of your pre-order. Why are people making fun so difficult these days?

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    10. Re:The hype machine by Khaotix · · Score: 1

      pre-orders were more or less unannounced and had *very* limited availability. My friend was tipped off the night before, showed up at 6am, and there were still 5 people in front of him.

    11. Re:The hype machine by defvayne23 · · Score: 0

      Just because you have a pre-order means nothing. I believe with the xbox 360 the merchants handed out too many pre-orders than they could fill.

      But Nintendo probably has that covered.

    12. Re:The hype machine by inca34 · · Score: 1

      That's wrong. Most of the pre-orders were done via a drawing. So unless you're lucky and won the drawing (yeah, the PS3 is a little more popular than the Wii and a little less plentiful on the release ;) for a pre-order, the only sure-fire way to get a PS3 is to start waiting at the places that are doing first come, first serve.

    13. Re:The hype machine by not+dishwasher+safe · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure this is astroturf. Just like for movies, publishers pay people to form queues and get on the TV news. That may be true for movies and the like (first thing that immediately comes to mind is "oh hell, I'll never get one before the end of the year..."

    14. Re:The hype machine by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      Well, Sony isn't the only one astro-turfing.

      According to Slashdot, this story has ~350 comments at threshold 1. I just did a quick count of the comments (about five visible on the screen, paged down and counted how many visible on screen) and got 90, tops.

      Why does it say there are 350 posts when there aren't nearly that many? Just another Slashcode screwup, I guess.

    15. Re:The hype machine by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

      Best Buy didn't take pre-orders this year, though, and the GameStops/EBs (around here, anyway) sold out in a few hours.

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    16. Re:The hype machine by Phleg · · Score: 1

      I didn't even bother pre-ordering a Wii. Calling up a local Wal-Mart, I asked how many PS3s they expect to be receiving the day it is released. 10-12, was the answer. How many Wiis? Around 150.

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    17. Re:The hype machine by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.

      Most stores refused to give out more than a handful of preorders.

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  10. Well I for one* by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Will be pre ording via mail order then e-baying mine for twice what I payed, I'm still on my old (second hand PS2). Sure the new console is going to have pretty HDTV graphics but I'm from the game-play is more important old school, also I have a life (well as much as a slashdotter can have).

    * Welcome our new PS3 overlords <ducks>

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    1. Re:Well I for one* by Brigade · · Score: 1

      Don't be so certain about that pre-order -> Ebay profit. Not only is everyone else doing it .. but a large subset of them won't get to Ebay their console (without a delay) .. Ebay is tracking serial #s (which you have to enter to sell your PS3) and a large number of them are getting tagged as "Not sellable for X days" .. I can't tell you how I know for certain .. but it's worth investigating so you don't get burned, right?

  11. Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, Sony sells CDs full of malware, sues grandmothers and kids, sends checks to various US Congressmen stapled to drafts of anti-consumer laws to be introduced by them, and I'm supposed to line up at 4 AM to give them money.

    Cool stuff you can do for $600:
    - Buy a bike
    - Rent a decent sports car for a couple of days
    - Take a plane trip to just about anywhere
    - All-day shopping spree at a huge bookstore
    - Adopt a starving Brungarian refugee
    - Join a health club
    - Take professional-development classes
    - Many things involving girls

    Dumbass stuff you can do with $600:
    - Donate to the Cowboy Neal Retirement Fund
    - Give it to Sony
    - ...?

    1. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 1

      Cool stuff you can do for $600 ... Many things involving girls

      Do they cost that much now?

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    2. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Cesa · · Score: 1

      After reading too much slashdot I expect to see a "Profit!" whenever I see ... But I guess in this case it would have made the ...'s hard to explain.

    3. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to add on the 7 days salary these guys could have earned instead of waiting in line.

    4. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Mirksar · · Score: 1
      All-day shopping spree at a huge bookstore
      *drooling*
    5. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      - Donate to the Cowboy Neal Retirement Fund
      - Give it to Sony
      - ...?
      4. profit!

      [ducks]
    6. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dumbass stuff you can do with $600:


      - ...?
      - Give it to Microsoft


      Wiiiiiii!

    7. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by ectal · · Score: 1

      You forgot: - Buy two Wiis and a bag of pot

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    8. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 1

      - Give it to Sony
      - ...?


      - Give it to Bill Gates
      - Give it your ex-girlfriend
      - Give it to your ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend
      - Give it to me
      - ...?

    9. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um... vs Microsoft?

    10. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by extra+the+woos · · Score: 1

      Also, a whole lot of hookers and blow.

      Or 1/2345th of a Senator!

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    11. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by asylumx · · Score: 1
      Cool stuff you can do for $600
      You could also play an MMO game like WoW for what, four years? You wont even have to spend $50 every month to keep it interesting, just start fights in the chat rooms ;-)
    12. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      Heheh nice one, although to be fair, 'Many things involving girls' can be in either the Cool or the Dumbass category, depending on the girl.

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    13. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by curtisk · · Score: 1

      Whats with the funny mod on the parent post?!? Insightful is more like it!

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    14. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Dumbass stuff you can do with $600:
      - Donate to the Cowboy Neal Retirement Fund
      - Give it to Sony
      - ...?


      - Profit!!

    15. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Greyfox · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      $600 is 2/3rds of what I paid for a secondhand RX7 a few years back. Damn that was a fun little car. I drove it for 3 or 4 years and it would have kept going if I'd felt like replacing the exhaust system. It was still drivable, it just wasn't going to be passing any more emissions tests.

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    16. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 1
      ...Adopt a starving Brungarian refugee


      Easier said than done...

    17. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Buck2 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      ... stuff you can do with $600:
      - Donate to the Cowboy Neal Retirement Fund
      - Give it to Sony
      - ...?

      PROFIT!

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    18. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by MoxFulder · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more. There are a whole lot of things I might spend $600 on, or save up for, but a DRM-loaded locked-down hyped-up POS computer that can only play games ain't one of them.

      And there's nothing I'd wait in line for 7 days for... absolutely nothing... okay, maybe a kidney?

    19. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      That's Sony BMG, the evil Sony kid.

      PS3 Sony is SCEA, the non-evil Linux loving Sony kid.

      Yeah Sony's a company fighting itself some of the time.

    20. Re:Battered spouse syndrome writ large by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool stuff you can do for $600:

      Purchase 600 tacos, which should provide adequate sustenance for the Dr. Who marathon.

  12. The question is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How many of those 7 people were being paid by Sony to make demand look greater than it is?

    1. Re:The question is by Merusdraconis · · Score: 1

      Sony doesn't have to pay people to make sure they sell out in five minutes! They only made enough consoles for five minutes of sales.

    2. Re:The question is by Grave · · Score: 1

      The people waiting in line have already calculated the money they would make from working those days and the money they will make from eBay, and figured out that eBay is going to be more profitable.

      Demand for PS3 in the US is artificially high because of the eBay phenomenon. It is also higher here than in Japan because there are so many ultra-loyalists to Sony who grew up with the PS1 and PS2, and whose parents have more money than common sense. I suspect that after all is said and done, we're going to see availability increase much faster than with the 360 due to a crash in demand.

    3. Re:The question is by j3tt · · Score: 1

      actually, the real question is ... how many people did Microsoft pay or give a couple or three Vista Ultimate licenses to to make sure that no one had them PS3s.

    4. Re:The question is by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Hm, if they start doing that, how long until mothers get paid to name their children "Playstation" or we see PS3 ads on gravestones?

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  13. video interview with people waiting in line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's safe to say these guys have no lives.

    1. Re:video interview with people waiting in line by creepynut · · Score: 1

      Wow.. that's amazing.

      My favourite part:
      "What is it exactly you like about the PS3?"
      "I think it's the Bluray"
      "What exactly is Bluray?"
      "I don't know"

  14. deb. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    apt-get install life

  15. !life tag by Ash-Fox · · Score: 0

    Well, this certainly gets a !life tag from me. I can understand waiting a day before, but.. this? No.

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    1. Re:!life tag by dJOEK · · Score: 1

      you're laughing at these people, yet you tag it !life
      I can't decide if you're being ironic or a hypocrit

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    2. Re:!life tag by Fred_A · · Score: 1
      I can understand waiting a day before, but.. this?
      A day before ?? Wow, if I really wanted something I might be prepared to stay in a queue for possibly a couple hours. Although it had better be worth it.
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    3. Re:!life tag by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      I don't find it funny in the least.

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  16. Game Slave 2 by h2g2bob · · Score: 1

    I think they're probably just hobos anyway. I mean, do they need to stand in line for days on end to get one? I think not.

  17. Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash them by cheekyboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not too costly, and it would really dent the ps3 games market, but thats just plain really evil,
    maybe all employees will buy 1 each and use them for blueray, and nothing else.

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  18. Poor boys by Konster · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I wonder how many of these folks are virgins? ...or just don't care.

    1. Re:Poor boys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Going to do something about it?

    2. Re:Poor boys by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but if the TV media broadcast their faces on national TV, then I bet they are going to stay that way a lot longer. Unless they happen to meet a crazy sex craved PS3 enthusiast.

    3. Re:Poor boys by se7en11 · · Score: 1

      6 outta 7 (Does scoring with a chick in WoW count?)

  19. I smell... by Dance_Dance_Karnov · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    people paid by sony to drum up some last minute hype. that or just a bunch of tards.

    1. Re:I smell... by jamar0303 · · Score: 1

      No amount of money would get me to camp out in front of a store for that long. I'd go for the second theory.

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    2. Re:I smell... by Saikik · · Score: 1

      I think what you smell is that these kids haven't seen a shower in 3 days.

      Time and time again nerds prove they will take things too far...

    3. Re:I smell... by elcid73 · · Score: 1

      Just going off your subject line alone I thought you were posting live from the line.

    4. Re:I smell... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      people paid by sony to drum up some last minute hype. that or just a bunch of tards.
      My first thought was "gotta be Sony shills, 'cause there's no way so many like-minded tards would happen to show up in the same place"--- but then I thought of Slashdot...
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  20. Game Slave 2 by h2g2bob · · Score: 1

    I think they're probably just hobos. I mean, do they need to stand in line for days on end to get one? I think not.

  21. How they can afford it: by olof_the_viking · · Score: 1

    Paid to sit there for a photo-op?

  22. Stupidly obvious question.. but... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they're such diehard fans that they're willing to wait in line for over a week to buy a goddamn games console, why the hell didn't they just preorder it instead?!

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    1. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by alienmole · · Score: 1

      If you're willing to wait in line for over a week to buy a game console, you're not smart enough to think of preordering.

      That, or you're being paid by Sony (to make it appear that the retard community is desparate for PS3s?)

    2. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they are Sony fanboys.
      Maybe some of them don't even have the 600 bucks.

    3. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupidly obvious answer:

      Because Sony is paying them to wait in line, not to preorder.

    4. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      They probably did. Think of this as first post mentality.

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    5. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by tepples · · Score: 1
      why the hell didn't they just preorder it instead?!

      Because the preorders were open for all of fifteen minutes.

    6. Re:Stupidly obvious question.. but... by vision864 · · Score: 0

      That would imply that have a life seemingly in order, aka perm shipping address and credit card / checking account.

  23. Massive demand... by Weedlekin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, a queue with seven people in it! That must have wound its way for at least two dozen feet from the front of the store, or even more if some of them were fat. If this sort of massive demand keeps up, people might have to wait in line for five or even ten minutes to get a PS/2, so buy yours before Christmas to avoid gigantic lines with ten or even a dozen people in them. You know it makes sense!

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    1. Re:Massive demand... by Borland · · Score: 1

      or five or even ten minutes to get a PS/2

      Why in seven hells would anyone buy an IBM Personal System 2? I wouldn't wait even a minute for it, let alone pay someone for that antiquated piece of crap.

    2. Re:Massive demand... by Weedlekin · · Score: 1

      LOL! My fault for not previewing first...

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    3. Re:Massive demand... by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Yeah, uhm, I don't think there's a PS2 shortage. Yet.

    4. Re:Massive demand... by Weedlekin · · Score: 1

      No, although if memory serves me, people were queuing up for them just prior to launch, and even more did it for Windows-95. I'll leave comments on the latter for others...

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      I'm not going to change your sheets again, Mr. Hastings.
  24. Lines FTL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Only people lining up are those that really want to for the "fun" of it or because they're gonna flip the thing on eBay. Sucks that most of the initial units are going straight to the secondary market. Hell with that - http://www.playstationfinder.com/ FTW.

  25. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by rtyall · · Score: 1

    If by not too costly you mean £110'000'000 (using UK site play.com as a guide). Besides, there's a chance that being so hard to get hold of and so sought after, it may only add to the hype of the machine.

  26. F'ing idiots... by tktk · · Score: 3, Funny
    I just can't believe they're going to wait in line for this long and sincerely hope that this is a hoax.

    I'd actually have more respect for these people if they said they'd be at home and masturbating continuously for the next 10 days.

    1. Re:F'ing idiots... by Scrapey · · Score: 1

      Well as ever with Sony, either way you're screwing yourself!

    2. Re:F'ing idiots... by joe+155 · · Score: 1

      "I'd actually have more respect for these people if they said they'd be at home and masturbating continuously for the next 10 days."

      Hey, I'm moving up in the world; more respected than 7 people!

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      *''I can't believe it's not a hyperlink.''
    3. Re:F'ing idiots... by RabidMonkey · · Score: 1

      I wasn't planning on buying a ps3, but I could use a little more respect, just in case.

      I accept your challnge, sur!

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      We emerge from our mother's womb an unformatted diskette; our culture formats us. - Douglas Coupland
    4. Re:F'ing idiots... by clarkec321 · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what most /.er's will be doing

    5. Re:F'ing idiots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! Respect at last! Oh...

    6. Re:F'ing idiots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd respect that ability in any case....

      Think of the rash :(

    7. Re:F'ing idiots... by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      Masturbation is more fun than waiting in line for days to get a piece of hardware.
      Thanks for the idea! I know what I'll do for the rest of the year!

    8. Re:F'ing idiots... by Shemmie · · Score: 1

      Thank you. It's about time I got more respect.

    9. Re:F'ing idiots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      already on it!

    10. Re:F'ing idiots... by cpricejones · · Score: 1

      That's why they bring tents.

    11. Re:F'ing idiots... by DCstewieG · · Score: 1

      Thanks. That means a lot.

  27. they're not gamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...they're geeks who can't wait to install gentoo on it...a custom compiled system that's optimized and soooooooooo faaaaaaaaaast!

  28. Take a pic on launch day... by heli0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... I want to see the look on the faces of the last 3 when they find out the store only has 4 units.

    "Someone went to Best Buy this morning and saw about 7 people waiting outside."

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    1. Re:Take a pic on launch day... by zootm · · Score: 1

      I want to see the look on the faces of the other 4 when the people who preordered the available units stroll right past them...

    2. Re:Take a pic on launch day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucky for them that after 7 days without a shower people will be less likely to notice when they crap their pants.

    3. Re:Take a pic on launch day... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      I think 4 units is much more than they will actually have (if you don't count the ones reserved for preorders and the ones sold to employees).

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  29. Obligatory Southpark Joke by rHBa · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, just suggest they go and cryogenically freeze themselves to pass the time, they'll probably be clever enough to believe you, problem solved.

  30. bud of jokes by carou · · Score: 3, Funny

    It must be a tough job being such big PS3 fans and being the bud of many passer-by jokes like 'Where is the line for PS4? Is it on the other side?'"

    Now is this a difference between the English and American languages, or can TFA not spell? On this side of the pond we'd talk about the butt of the joke.

    (and then have a cup of tea).

    1. Re:bud of jokes by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1

      or sometimes, when we speak english, we say brunt

    2. Re:bud of jokes by Elshar · · Score: 1

      I actually had the same thought. On the other side of the pond.

    3. Re:bud of jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The writer is every bit as stupid by American standards as British ones. We, however, would still almost definitely vote for him.

    4. Re:bud of jokes by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Now is this a difference between the English and American languages, or can TFA not spell?

      "Bud" isn't in TFA. It's TFS who made the Malapropism.

    5. Re:bud of jokes by nojjynb · · Score: 1

      Aha, found it... I was worried I was the first one to catch that, and no, it is no different here in the US. The bud has become the butt of this joke :P

    6. Re:bud of jokes by Holistic+Missile · · Score: 1

      The phrase is the same in America. They would be the butt of the joke.

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    7. Re:bud of jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The correct American and British English is "butt of the the joke". The correct Stupid English is "bud of the joke".

    8. Re:bud of jokes by anothy · · Score: 1

      well, i assume the tea thing means your on the european, but not quite continental, end of the connection (by which standard i suppose i'm supposed to like coffee, which is gross). if so, than nope: it's "butt" over here, as well.

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    9. Re:bud of jokes by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      It's like "could care less" and "for all intensive purposes" Ever played that game 'telephone'? Where you sit in a circle with like 25 people, someone whispers something to the person sitting next to them, and the whispered phrase goes around the circle, and when it comes back to the person who started it, they say what they heard and what they said.

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    10. Re:bud of jokes by Slithe · · Score: 1

      In the US, we also use 'the butt of the joke'. TFA can not spell.

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    11. Re:bud of jokes by Zeek40 · · Score: 1

      In America, it's also the butt of the joke... and to the best of my knowledge, Best Buy is only in the USA and Canada, so I'm guessing its a miss-print in TFA. Or possibly an Aussie writer? I don't know if its the same there... Come to think of it, can someone tell me if Aussie English is closer to British or American?

    12. Re:bud of jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an American myself, I can assure you, it's poorly spelled. Of course, that's what you get when you teach kids how to read plays written by authors that can't spell themselves throughout english class, rather than teach them grammar.

    13. Re:bud of jokes by w9ofa · · Score: 1

      No, he is just a moron. It's butt here as well.

    14. Re:bud of jokes by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      They've fixed the "bud", now. But still obviously couldn't work out the plural of "passer-by".

    15. Re:bud of jokes by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      Now is this a difference between the English and American languages, or can TFA not spell?

      It's American ignorance, plain and simple. I'm American (sigh) and this happens all the time over here, although I do see this kind of thing more than you might think from the UK from time to time. My best friend says "phantom" when he means "fathom". I've decided it's not worth trying to correct him. It could offend him, so I just keep quiet when he says stuff like "I can't phantom why ...".

    16. Re:bud of jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans call it the butt, too. Or maybe the fanny.

    17. Re:bud of jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We say "Butt of the joke" in the US of A too... The author is just dumb.
      Probably one of those people that say "we play it by year", which makes no sense. (It's "ear", foolio)

    18. Re:bud of jokes by carou · · Score: 1

      or sometimes, when we speak english, we say brunt

      What? No. Or at least not that I've ever heard, and not according to the O.E.D. either.

      The brunt is the initial impact of an attack, not the recipient of it: though you might bear the brunt of a joke, you would never be the brunt of a joke. There's no mention that to be the butt of a joke is in any way an Americanism - although the origin of the term is unknown, there is evidence that it dates back at least as far as when archery was commonplace.

  31. How does this work by optimusNauta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will someone honestly answer me this. Do they put 2 weeks of food in a cooler? Do they sit with their best pal and take turns waiting in line? Does Best Buy obligate me to respect their encampment and let them buy first? What if I just waltz in on the appropriate day and put my tent in front of theirs? Can they be arrested for sleeping on the sidewalk? Can Best Buy kick them out? How does this work?

    1. Re:How does this work by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 1

      I'm quite sure it's first come first served. I don't imagine it'll be dissimilar to the UK where I am where we don't have to serve you anything. At all. I could say 'fuck you all' and sell it to my staff.

    2. Re:How does this work by ickoonite · · Score: 1

      Does Best Buy obligate me to respect their encampment and let them buy first?

      No, but reverence for the ancient and fundamental Anglo-Saxon concept of the 'queue' obligates you to so do. At least, in this country (that is, the Mother Country), were you to queue-jump, you run the risk of getting shot. Well, you would if we carried guns. I should have thought that was even more likely to be the case in the USA, where everyone is armed to the teeth, no?

      iqu :P

    3. Re:How does this work by dangitman · · Score: 1
      What if I just waltz in on the appropriate day and put my tent in front of theirs?

      Well, in theory they would shiv you for cutting in line. That's how normal society works. But these are weak nerds who have been weakened even more by waiting in the cold. So, they might cry and collapse in despair.

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    4. Re:How does this work by FrostyCoolSlug · · Score: 1

      Generally yes, coolers, mini stoves and lots of food etc, as far as the queue goes, i'm not entirely sure if Best Buy would obligate you to respect the queue (given that the queue is OUTSIDE the store, and not in), on the other hand, i'm not sure it's wise to piss off a number of fan boys.

    5. Re:How does this work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or better yet, is Best Buy responsible if some idiot dies in front of their store from starvation or some other sleeping-on-the-sidewalk-for-two-weeks-induced malady?

    6. Re:How does this work by clarkec321 · · Score: 1

      Just wait till the doors open on the release day and walk straight in, whilst there all struggling with the bags/tents whatever I've got to wait till March...I might start camping now

    7. Re:How does this work by genooma · · Score: 1

      Well, it works like this, the first part is having no life... well that's actually all there is to it.

      I'm off for my chronic masturbators support group meeting.

    8. Re:How does this work by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Some kids who were waiting in line since last week (or earlier) had tents set up, but they were in the way of the actual customers, so Best Buy asked them to move off of their property. They set the tents up in the parking lot.

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    9. Re:How does this work by Dravik · · Score: 1

      Since theres only 7 of them they probably cooperate for things like food and hygiene. Best Buy will probably go along with their line and let them buy first. It would be real bad publicity and customer service to not give them first shot at the equipment. If you waltz to the front of the line after they have been waiting a week I would expect a fight with you heavily outnumbered and everyone going to jail. The sidewalk at most Best Buys is private property and not a city owned side walk thus they can be kicked off, arrested for loitering, and/or trespassing if the properties owners wanted them to leave. These people are not going to break into the store and their presence will probably prevent any thefts while they are there. Also it would be bad PR to kick them off the property.

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    10. Re:How does this work by Lectoid · · Score: 1

      Mob Rule takes over. I waited for 12 hours at circuit city in Chicago, was third in line. There were 9 systems total, 6 360's and 3 core units. At about 1 am, a friend of the two guys behind me showed up. There were about 12 people in line at this time. At 9am when the manager arrived and started handing out tickets, the 10th place guy (1st to not get one) started complaining about that guy who showed up at 1am and sat with his friends in 4th and 5th place. The manager asked all of us if that was true, we all agreed. So he told the latecomer sorry and gave the 10th place guy the last ticket. I'm pretty sure had the manager not cared, a skirmish would have broken out (10th place guy had a friend too, and my money would have been on them). Sorry about typing "guy" so much, because as we all know, that's all there were.

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    11. Re:How does this work by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 1

      Have a friend dress up as a police officer and ask them these questions at the time the store opens on D-Day. Then just go in and buy yours first while they're out trying to justify the 30 kilos of fesces left on the sidewalk.

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    12. Re:How does this work by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      Best buy can sell to anyone they like, they can even bar all 7 from the store if they wish.

      They'd take food supplies and have a friend I suspect. People who finish for weeks at a time have little tents and mini stoves, they can cook things just fine (takes a while to heat up the pan though).

      You could put your tent infront of them but you would be either blocking the door or get punched.. plus tents make no difference, if they arn't awake on launch day they arn't getting their PS3. Most will probably stay up just for when it opens.

      I suspect you could be, but if you gave an excuse and the cop wasn't too much of a dick they would surely let you stay. For example "I'm waiting to get my little brother his christmas present", not many cops would arrest you.

      Yes Best buy can, but would you kick out $4000? I don't think so.

      It works because these people will be front of the line from like 6pm the day before release, the people in tents will respect the order but everyone else will be like "WTF, I was here first!" no matter what the tents do. Same way any queue works, it works because everyone agrees to the terms and joins in.

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    13. Re:How does this work by elcid73 · · Score: 1

      I too would like insight. Do they have an "gentlemen's agreement" (lets face it, they probably *are* all male) for going to the bathroom? I would imagine it would work in shifts... but you're right- does Best Buy have to recognize that line? Nothing would be more amusing if on opening day I bum rush in front of the line and make my way to the PS3s before they do... afterall, I'll be well slept, nourished and refreshed, and I'm not certain- but I'm pretty sure I could take 'em in a dead sprint. I'm thinking dudes that camp out for a video game console for week don't put exercise/fitness high on the priority list. But I'm just guessing there.

    14. Re:How does this work by RyoShin · · Score: 1
      What if I just waltz in on the appropriate day and put my tent in front of theirs?
      Then I hope you have good insurance. If you somehow fail to get the everliving shit beaten out of you for a stunt like that, they could likely raise enough of a racket to get an officer to come and make you move for "disturbing the peace", depending on the crime rate in the area. Even so, there is no guarentee that waiting in line outside a store will allow you to be the first one in, except for common courtesy and store policy.
  32. Fools and their money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... part easily.

  33. Ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so why wouldn't these idiots just go to a more desolate area that does not yet have people camping out like retards. I'm at Purdue in West Lafayette Indiana and there isn't a single person camping in front of any store. Might as well just come out here and save yourself at least 5 days or so.

    Either that or just stop acting like such a pathetic lame ass.

    1. Re:Ok.... by DilbertLand · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but then they won't get their 15 mins of fame when all the local tv stations come out to interview them and ask them why they would be willing to queue up for so long.......I suspect the real reason most of them are there this early is just for attention.

    2. Re:Ok.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm here in West Lafayette as well and I work at Best Buy here and I have yet to see anyone waiting in line. I spoke with a Wal-Mart employee earlier this morning and they won't allow lines any longer than 24 hours before release... so I guess those die-hard fans will just have to wait until then! I can't wait to see some of these guys though!

  34. All i can say is WTF... by JoBlo69 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When the xbox 360 came out well about a week before i realized that is was going to take more than just walking into a walmart day of the launch and picking one up with no prob. It soon dawned on me that i would have to take extream measures (not THAT extream) to get my 360 on launch day. Me and a friend ended up driving out of town about 60 miles and came across a fredmyers (northwest department store)and we where 3rd and 4th in line. We had to spend the night in almost freezing weather but it got done and i made twice my money back when i listed it on ebay the day after... To me that was worth it, financhaly...

    But for me the logic doesnt work. I cant justify spending a week and a half out side of best buy for the "chance" to get a PS3. The only whay i would do it is if i was Garenteed to get one and ablr to sell it for more money than the lost days working. And at my salary good luck even at the vey bloated Pre PS3 sales happening on ebay right now. There going for at least $1500...

    I fail to see why anyone sane would stand around outside for 10+ days waiting for a PS3 that they may or may not get unless that are hoping to make alot of money reselling it to someone else just as desprate to get one...

    1. Re:All i can say is WTF... by aussie_a · · Score: 1
      and i made twice my money back when i listed it on ebay the day after...

      I fucking hate you.
    2. Re:All i can say is WTF... by kubla2000 · · Score: 1

      You win the daily /. spelling prize.

    3. Re:All i can say is WTF... by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Install Firefox 2, would you? It's got a spell checker.

    5. Re:All i can say is WTF... by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      Holy shit dude...
      "extream" ?
      "financhaly" ?
      "Garenteed" ?
      "desprate" ?

      Were you abandoned in the jungle as a child only to be raised by a panther, a bear and a crowd of crazy monkeys? Please say yes, the idea that you were educated by humans pains me greatly.

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    6. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Another reason PCs are better than consoles.
      PCs have spell checkers. *hint*

    7. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With grammar like that, I'm surprised you make more than minimum wage. If you're going to try and brag about such a high income, at least spell your words correctly.

    8. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm curious where you get such a great salary from with your rudimentary language skills.

    9. Re:All i can say is WTF... by fruey · · Score: 1

      I'd worry about your finances if you spell financially "financhaly". You're not reading enough about your finances...

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    10. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, learn how to spell.

    11. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a representative of the Grammar and Spelling Nazi Union, we regret to inform you that the previous post will result in you being shot.

    12. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      You assume these arn't fanboys who want a PS3 and not get ripped off because guys like you put them on Ebay.

      Remember as people like you push in and "steal" all the PS3s from legit people, these legit people have to push infront of you. If they can't go in release day and get one they will go before release day.

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    13. Re:All i can say is WTF... by sydres · · Score: 1

      you spell worse than me , and you are an idiot to stand outside waiting for anything when you could have waited a couple of days then bought one

    14. Re:All i can say is WTF... by dwneonstar · · Score: 0

      Extream Spelling for the Xbox 360, this Christmas.

    15. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      To me that was worth it, financhaly...


      Clearly you didn't buy yourself a dictionary with all of your eBay earninings.
    16. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They obviously don't pay you for your spelling prowess...

    17. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, seriously.

      One night a week, stop playing the 360 and work on your grammar. You will get much further in life.

    18. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh that's cute... you think you make 1500+ a week with spelling like that. Because you're so far ahead in your career, definitely moreso than last year when you COULD camp out to gouge parents who want to make their children happen, you don't want to risk it. HA.

    19. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus christ dude, learn to spell. I've never seen such creative spelling.

    20. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Trifthen · · Score: 1

      Extream? Financhaly? Garenteed? "There going?" Desprate?

      Holy $deity, our schools really are failing to educate future generations!

      Please tell me the parent is a spoof... please?

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    21. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Inoshiro · · Score: 1

      " xtream measures (not THAT extream) to get my 360 on launch day. ... i made twice my money back when i listed it on ebay the day after... To me that was worth it, financhaly..."

      Obviously money not spent on something useless like a High School education.

      "Hookt on fonics werkt for me!"

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    22. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now perhaps you could take "extreme" measures you uneducated idiot.

    23. Re:All i can say is WTF... by tomservo84 · · Score: 1

      Yes...All *I* can say is WTF...Where the fuck did you learn to spell?

      I'm sorry...but one or two misspelled words I can handle...not like it but handle...but *THIS* is so bad I was in pain trying to read it.

      For those who might want to read the above post and not go through pain...here it is...CORRECTED. (Call me a fucking grammar/spelling nazi...I don't give a shit)

      About a week before the xbox 360 came out, I realized that it was going to take more than just walking into a Walmart on the day of the launch and picking one up with no prob. It soon dawned on me that I would have to take extreme measures (not THAT extreme) to get my 360 on launch day. A friend and I ended up driving out of town about 60 miles and came across a Fred Myers (northwest department store)and we were 3rd and 4th in line. We had to spend the night in almost freezing weather but it got done and I made twice my money back when I listed it on ebay the day after... To me that was worth it, financially...

      But for me the logic doesnt work. I can't justify spending a week and a half outside of Best Buy for the "chance" to get a PS3. The only way I would do it is if I was *guaranteed* to get one and able to sell it for more money than the lost day's work. And at my salary good luck even at the very bloated Pre PS3 sales happening on ebay right now. They're going for at least $1500...

      I fail to see why anyone sane would stand around outside for 10+ days waiting for a PS3 that they may or may not get unless they are hoping to make a lot of money reselling it to someone else just as desperate to get one...

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    24. Re:All i can say is WTF... by Ignatius+D'Lusional · · Score: 1
      You do know that you can preview your comments and check them for spelling before posting, right?

      For the record, these are not words:

      extream financhaly whay ablr vey (unless accompanied by "oy") desprate

      You know, Firefox has a very nice automatic spell-checker...

    25. Re:All i can say is WTF... by PurifyYourMind · · Score: 1

      It is Fred Meyer. Not Fred Meyer's. Not Fred Meyers. Jesus I wish people would quit doing that.

      http://www.fredmeyer.com/

    26. Re:All i can say is WTF... by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      he spelt extreme as 'extream' TWICE so it was obviously deliberate, and you picked him up on a name, where people almost have an excuse for spelling errors etc.

      all i can say is WTF

    27. Re:All i can say is WTF... by PurifyYourMind · · Score: 1

      No. There is no excuse. Bus drivers in Portland who go down Barbur Blvd. past a couple of *giant* Fred Meyer signs on a daily basis announce the stop with the wrong name too. It is a weird brain infection among people who live here. Apparently the original store was called Fred Meyer's, but I have heard young people and even the *store's own employees* refer to it wrongly.

  35. consuming waste by jovius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The society seems to have closen a circle when you can afford to line up for a product designed to waste time.

    1. Re:consuming waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Closen? Were you maleducated at the same school as the editor of this article?

  36. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by aussie_a · · Score: 1

    Oooooooooh. You're evil! For those that think Microsoft would be helping Sony profit: Sony actually sells the consoles at a loss. So it'd cost Sony quite a bit (as no-one would be buying any games, which are sold at pretty high profits to compensate for the console loss, for all those consoles).

  37. Cunning Plan by giafly · · Score: 3, Funny

    By sleeping outside Best Buy for a week, instead of paying for Hotel rooms, these guys are saving enough money that their Play Stations are in effect free. They're not so dumb.

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    1. Re:Cunning Plan by mattgoldey · · Score: 0

      That's wife-logic right there, as in... "Honey, these shoes were normally $300, but I got them for only $200! I saved $100, isn't that great?" "No, you SPENT $200. You didn't save squat."

    2. Re:Cunning Plan by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      And if they don't eat they can throw in a couple games too ! This is brilliant !

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  38. Sweet, sweet pron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm getting a Wii on Euro launch day

    Pffft. Big deal. I'm playing with my Wii right now...

  39. Paid by Sony - look at the PR coverage! by fantomas · · Score: 1

    How about "paid by Sony"? Look at the media coverage those 7 guys are getting. How much does it cost to hire 7 geeks for a week? 100 dollars a day each? that's 4900 dollars for the week, how much advertising air time can you buy for 4900 dollars these days? I am guessing a lot less than the "viral marketing" (yuk! expression) Sony are getting from the "7 guys in a queue FOR PS3, lets laugh at the geeks" funny news coverage.

    (and hey they are Sony so I am sure it doesn't cost them much to chuck the 7 guys a PS3 each if there aren't actually any in that shop come the official day).

  40. Stupid people FTL by jchenx · · Score: 1

    The funny thing is that I bet there are people waiting in line, who decided to take off from their hourly wage job so they could get a PS3 and "flip it" on eBay for a profit. But they're too dumb to realize that they could have made just as much money (if not more) staying at work the entire time. Even a minimum wage job, if you put in decent hours over a couple of days, nets a few hundred dollars. And that's about the most profit you can make on eBay reselling the console. (Plus, it's a risky proposition ... how do you know enough people are going to want to spend that much on the console?)

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  41. If only... by Zorque · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope they get inside on the launch date only to find out the store's entire stock has been pre-ordered. On another note, what kind of lines have there been for past consoles? There's a tremendous amount of hype (good and bad) going on about the PS3, and I'm sure it's affected interest, but how much?

    1. Re:If only... by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Best buy, Walmart, and Sam's Club don't do preorders.

  42. But mom, I want it now! Ok, poopykins. by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was Eric cartman in the line, or is he still waiting for Wii?

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    1. Re:But mom, I want it now! Ok, poopykins. by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      No, he's waiting for the Okama Gamesphere. . .

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    2. Re:But mom, I want it now! Ok, poopykins. by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      C'mooooooon ... c'moooooOOOn....

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    3. Re:But mom, I want it now! Ok, poopykins. by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      foolish me, I didn't know about the wii episode.

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  43. You insensitive clods by NeoManyon · · Score: 3, Funny

    In my town we only have four people... and we are still waitng for the PS1

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  44. they'll be soooo disappointed by netean · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've spent some time with the new PS3 (via work) and I have to say they'll be really disappointed.. Vastly overpriced, really buggy software (OS is flaky, real flaky) and the games (i've played) aren't much better!!!, poor build quality (drive access fails, disc fails to spin, connectors loose at the rear), poor controller, etc.

    They'll have the same games they bought before on their ps2, just much more expensive this time around.. Games WILL look great (as long as they have HDTVs) but, in all honesty I think it's going to crucify Sony... it's just such a pile of crap you wouldn't believe.. NO really, it just doesn't work the way you'd expect/want and when you factor in that SONY made it, not some junky two bit chinese company you've never heard of.. it's just shocking.

    it's just so disappointing you won't believe it.

    1. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by poisonfruitloops · · Score: 1

      How does it compare compared to the 360 and/or Wii? (outa curiousity)

    2. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call BS. According to your website you are a clinical hypnotherapist. So what exactly are you using those PS3s for?

    3. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've spent some time with the new PS3 (via work)

      Me too. I confirm what you say...
      (and yes, it's an anonymous post, sorry for this, but I signed a NDA)

    4. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by randomblast · · Score: 1

      No, a junky two bit Japanese company...

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    5. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by EvilCabbage · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and your website says you're a hypnotherapist.

      The day I take my technology news from you is the same day I start consulting pixies for stock tips.

    6. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen such a hand wavy bunch of shit in my life. Not everybody is a loser stuck with the one Playstation 3 that dropped off the end of the pre-release bellcurve. It's got a big chunk of cool running shit in a small box, and will work out way less over the long haul than the Microsoft X-Box treadmill, plays next generation movies and games, and has near perfect emulation for older games. The OS is great for what it does, is upgradeable and connectable, and the Playstation 3 is capable of running other stuff if you get the urge. Sorry it's not some dreamy machine you can jack into and shag the girl in the red dress but what do you expect? You might want to try looking up from that hypnotism and NLP crap and try achieving something yourself instead of being a surrogate parent living out their frustrated dreams.

    7. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Vastly overpriced, really buggy software (OS is flaky, real flaky) and the games (i've played) aren't much better!!!, poor build quality (drive access fails, disc fails to spin, connectors loose at the rear), poor controller, etc.

      so it will be 100% identical to the PS2 on launch then?

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    8. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      This coming from a registered hypnotherapist? Sorry, but your watch-waving won't convince me... mussn't buy Sony products... Wii is king... Yess massster


      Seriously, though. How did you get your hands on a PS3? What's flaky about the OS? Why does the price factor in to your play testing exeriance? I find it hard to believe that there is a problem with any part of the drive but the laser, and loose connectors should never be a problem.

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    9. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't know hypnotherapists get early access to PS3s, or did you hypnotize a Sony rep. to give you one? ;)

    10. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other then your opinion, you have anything to back this up with? Other then everyone waiting a week or so to find out if your thoughts and feelings are the same as others?

      So far what I've read is the unit is pretty nice. Feels more solid then a 360, quieter etc. Ya that could just be spin... but then again so could you.

    11. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1
      I've spent some time with the new PS3 (via work)
      Via work? Hypnotherapy? Is Sony trying to hypnotize people into buying it? I think those people in line at Best Buy may be some of your patients.
    12. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by PeterBrett · · Score: 1
      NO really, it just doesn't work the way you'd expect/want and when you factor in that SONY made it, not some junky two bit chinese company you've never heard of.. it's just shocking.

      I think you'll find that "some junky two bit chinese company" did make it, and then Sony put their name on it. Welcome to contracting to the lowest bidder.

    13. Re: they'll be soooo disappointed by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      netean, I don't believe you.

      My disdain for your silly profession aside, why the fuck would you get your hands on a PS3, through work, as a hypnotherapist?

      That... and I've already read a lot of hands on accounts of the PS3, from a multitude of sources, and none of them mention any of the supposed problems you speak of.

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    14. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by aphxtwn · · Score: 1

      Big question is if the unit you were looking at was a production model and not a debugging test unit. If you were looking at a debug unit, the public release version of the PS3 may have some stability issues resolved. Hardware issues may also be resolved if they're made at a different facility with stricter tolerances and drive selection... Or you could be dead on and there are no differences and Sony's in for some scathing reviews. I got a 360 on the day of its release and it sounds like a hair-dryer. Apparently the newer ones are much quieter. Maybe annoying hardware is typical of early console revisions.

    15. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by netean · · Score: 1

      i AM a hypnotherapist (and psychotherapist actually also) but it's not my ONLY job. Before I became a therapist I worked full time in the computer industry.. Now I work part time (or full time on contract) for a multimedia company. I do Flash, photoshop, Director, web design, web programming etc (I should say, I'd prefer to be a full time therapist, but the computer stuff pays the bills, pays for additional training - of which there is always loads, and keeps me busy when clients are slow)

    16. Re:they'll be soooo disappointed by al_fruitbat · · Score: 1

      Why would a hypnotherapist have advanced access to a gaming console?

    17. Re: they'll be soooo disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing is worse than the losers who camped out weeks in advance for a 'Star Wars' movie. Bwaaaa! Haaaa! Haaaa!

      I planned ahead and preordered my PS3 early. As a matter of fact I already got confirmation that my PS3 will be waiting for me on Friday to pick up at my leasure.

      Five years from now when the PS4 is announced remember these three words....."Preorder! Preorder! Preorder!"

      Good luck to the rest of you!

  45. What are the queuing rules? by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 1, Funny
    Is it OK for you and a friend to take turns keeping a position in the line? If not, would you lose your place simply by going for a pee?

    If the answers to the above are "no" and "yes, the mind boggles. I have visions of someone in adult diapers for 10 days, unable to go for a shower. When the store finally opens on the big day, he smells so awful that the store bars him entry.

    1. Re:What are the queuing rules? by GayBliss · · Score: 1

      I've often wondered how these people collectively decide on the rules. If you want to have some evil fun, go stand in the queue long enough until someone near the front is replaced with a queue-position-holder and then jump in and says that's against the rules, because they are actually allowing someone to "cut in". Just watch out for flailing arms after attempting this.

      The manager of Best Buy should open the doors on release day just as any other day, and if someone walks in off the street at the same time as the people in the queue, so be it. If someone complains, just say "there is no need for a queue at Best Buy, entry is free and we have plenty of room inside!"

    2. Re:What are the queuing rules? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, can't I pay a couple bums $50 each to sleep there at night instead of on the bench in the park or in the metro? I've got the whole equation here:

      1) Have bums stand in line for console
      2) Swap console for booze
      3) Profit!

      Seriously, it isn't too late for someone to organize this at the other stores without pre-sales. Make it a charity effort and give them all the money back to get on their feet again if you want. As a bonus, just a few extra dirty bums at the store front scare away all the other campers and if the management tries to kick them out you get a big lawsuit and profit. That, and Sony can say they weren't bums before but have been camping out since the PS2 released.

      Someone get busy rounding up those bums with promises of a fresh start or an endless bender!

    3. Re:What are the queuing rules? by benjj · · Score: 1

      >would you lose your place simply by going for a pee?

      No, but you might get beaten up by the others for saying "God, I really want a Wii".

    4. Re:What are the queuing rules? by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      Try sitting with 6 other guys for a week when you all love the same thing.. I think they would save each others places even without friends

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  46. Get a life by lordperditor · · Score: 1

    I could understand going to a midnight opening to get a new console, hell even a new game but camping out for a week?!!!

    These people should just be put out of their misery.

    How sad.

    Perhaps one of these people could post and explain why they would do this????

    1. Re:Get a life by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 1

      I can't agree more. I once baby-sat one of my nephews (9yo at that time) during a midnight Harry Potter launch (and bought one too), and all the evening was very pleasant, kids were playing together, parents and adult fans discussing. The moods was good because people were there that night because it was the fan/kid equivalent of a great party, not not because only the 6 first ones will have a chance of buying an overpriced thing and the be beaten to death by the other rabbid zombies.
      If this news isn't a hoax, it's very sad.
      (personally, I consider buying a Wii, maybe next year)

    2. Re:Get a life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would, but it seems they're busy waiting in line somewhere.

  47. Im waiting for the ps5 by sjwest · · Score: 1

    Now thats a game machine.

  48. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Actually this would definitly be a serious blow to Sony. Like MS, they lose on the console and make the money on the games. Now, if your competitor buys all the consoles and simply trashes them, the blow could be devastating.

    It sure is cheaper than buying Sony, Sony can't simply up the price to keep them from buying (or nobody else would buy either), and their stock might start quivering. In our kinda whacky little commercial world, this might even work out financially for MS.

    I wonder though if it would be legal. Would it be legal to hoover up all products of your competitor?

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  49. your post got cut short by name*censored* · · Score: 0, Redundant
    - Donate to the Cowboy Neal Retirement Fund -...?
    - Profit!
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  50. and yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    You can walk into shops in America and pick up semi-automatics without queueing a minute!

  51. And my question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of those 7 people were being paid by Sony to make demand look greater than it is?
    How much, in comparison, was Microsoft playing similar people when they launched the Xbox360?

  52. Poor mutants by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    These guys are exactly why I wear a lead codpiece when I sit at my computer.

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  53. STOP IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Please someone do something about the "itsatrap" tag misuse.

    1. Re:STOP IT by entrylevel · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. It's really annoying. Not everything is a trap.

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    2. Re:STOP IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't stop! It's a trap!

    3. Re:STOP IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I feared this day would come. The day when itsatrap would become unstoppable. Now they're modding you as a troll! Ahhhrrrgggg.
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  54. Sense of Accomplishment by GayBliss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look, you have people with nothing better to do than stand in line for a week for something that they will probably use for days on end without doing anything else constructive. What else do they do for a sense of accomplishment in their life? It probably makes them feel great about themselves to have such dedication and determination.

    1. Re:Sense of Accomplishment by jsight · · Score: 1

      Or they could sell them, and make $1000. That's probably their real incentive.

  55. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by cdrudge · · Score: 1

    In related news, Microsoft has announced that they will have BluRay players for the XBox360 available approximately 1 week after the launch of the PS3. Up to 200,000 may be available for sale.

  56. Insightful how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who really wants a PS3 that badly would have pre-ordered.

    Insightful, huh? How is this insightful? Perhaps, just maybe, that the number of people who "really wants a ps3 that badly" far outweighs the puny number of pre-orders there have been to date? Figures that this would be posted by a Nintendo fanboy.

  57. Washroom break? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These guys obviously have friends and are taking shifts with each other when nature calls.

    Perhaps they were going camping anyways, and decided they might as well try it on concrete and make some money.

  58. And the line inside? by mattbode · · Score: 1

    I would feel sorry for all the people waiting outside on the day of release when they find out that people who just walked in are queueing inside.

  59. Tis a misspelling by bebemochi · · Score: 1

    It's the butt of the joke in US English as well. (And it's not actually in TFA, it's from the /. submitter...)

  60. BestBuy doesn't Preorder by Locdonan · · Score: 1

    All these people saying "Heh, I hope they find out that only 4 are available." Best Buy doesn't PRE-ORDER! They didn't for the 360 (don't own one) and they have not for the Wii or the PS3. I will walk in Sunday morning without waiting in a long ass line and get my Wii with no hassle. Read the article about common sense and camping out. oi.

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    1. Re:BestBuy doesn't Preorder by senocular · · Score: 1

      The very fact that Best Buy doesn't preorder is why these guys are out there. For stores like best buy, its first come and first serve on launch day. And chances are, given the supply of PS3s that are going to be available, a Best Buy may only have 4 units available - that number has nothing to do with preorders, but the simple fact that Sony was able to only produce about 12 or so units for launch.

      You might have a better chance with the Wii simply because Nintendo is better prepared and will have a lot more units available. However, people at my work are already talking about looking up available units online and camping out for sunday. I suggest you get there early.

  61. I understand now... by Kartoch · · Score: 3, Funny

    "He went inside and one of the workers told him that they had been there since Monday."

    A lot of republican voters are in PS3 lines, which would explain the recent results in american politic...

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  62. Psychosis. by mcai8rw2 · · Score: 1

    This is my thought on the subject. I would bet that all of the people in the queue are gamers [i.e. not grandma buying it for lil'johnny].

    And as we all know "hardcore" gamers are all driven by the compulsive 'desire for collection' i.e. the constant drive to increase scores, collect all special blue powerups, cover yourself head to toe in Valor armour, have as many @folding points as possible.

    It is this psychology, i.e. the compulsion to collect and improve scores, that is driving them in that queue.

    They have read and read and read about the consoles for months [years?] and the seed has been planted. So it really is little surprise that they would queue for a week, when they would happily spend 48hours awake trying to beat their OWN high scores.

    As many of us have experienced; it takes a big leap to realise that stepping back and saying "i don;t CARE if i don;t get my PS3 for antother week or so...I'll just shave the dog instead" is actually NOT a big problem.

    Seriously guys! you will get your PS3! and if you DO decide to wait for it...it will probably be much better by the end of it.

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  63. Viral Marketers by tezza · · Score: 1
    The guys in the line are paid Sony Promotional people. Astroturf in action.

    Ok, so thats completely baseless, given that I'm in London, but hey, this is just a light hearted idea. I was in NYC when the PSP was released, and the Sony store mentioned sell-outs, the queue was very long then but I still got mine, and so did everyone else.

    What's the weather like there??, because in 2005 it was bloody cold!!!!!

    Perhaps you can measure the desparation of a company by how soon it deploys its Viral Fanbois.

    I mean just having a queue makes 'Organic' News Coverage that much more.

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  64. The REAL question is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many of you Microsoft fanboys posting on forums are being paid by Microsoft to bash Sony?

    It would seem more plausible that Microsoft pay bloggers and "news" sites to bash Sony than Sony paying people to stand in line at a BestBuy.

  65. They probably did by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    These days, retailiers oversell the pre-orders, and then give the console to those that bought the most accessories. And they may not be die hard fans, but savvy ebayers. You might just make $1000 dollars profit for a week in line if you score a ps3 in an area where there aren't many of them.

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  66. Treat them like tickets under antiscalping laws... by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Make a few buys, and start publicly voiding warranties(and other nasty things) of the rest that they can find of any that are north of MSRP + $30-50. If records don't match up with the original buyer in the first 2 years, no warranty service for you either.

    This is where regulation brings back sanity. Besides, if you're stuck with it for 2 years (by which time there will be more than plenty) and cant flip it (Sony voids the warranty, 3rd party warranties get voided, or you get slapped with a ticket scalping statute), I bet the lines will be a LOT shorter and with perhaps more stock.

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  67. Seems pretty simple... by dimer0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if you get a PS3 on day 1, you can turn it around on ebay for 1500-2000. (Which sickens me). So, that's a 900-1400 profit. Let's assume $1400. So, that's $200/day for standing in line they're making - which is probably a lot more than these kids make in their normal days jobs (if they have one). Not a bad deal, I guess.

    Now, I really want a PS3, but we already have a next-gen console out there which is finally getting some quality titles. I'll have no problems playing Gears of War for a month or two while it's hard to get my hands on a PS3. There really isn't anything that excites me about the PS3, well, until the next Gran Turismo comes out.

    1. Re:Seems pretty simple... by gd23ka · · Score: 1

      "So, if you get a PS3 on day 1, you can turn it around on ebay for 1500-2000. (Which sickens me)"

      What's wrong with someone making a buck? The profit Sony is trying to make from selling a
      game console should sicken you too then.

    2. Re:Seems pretty simple... by cojsl · · Score: 1

      Flipping the PS3 may yield a profit, but lets do some math. $1400 / 120 hours = $11.66/hr. $900 / 120 hours = $7.5/hr. I know they're getting "paid to sleep/sit" but they should be able to get a similar deal at any of the nearby stores or in Best Buy itself, and then have a job going forward.

  68. They're getting paid... Say hello to Eddy Bernays by gd23ka · · Score: 1

    Say hello to Ed Bernays again, Sigmund Freud's very own Nephew and Der Grandmaster of Der Propaganda
    and what he later called "Public Relations" to escape the "bad vibes" of the original term.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays.

    One of the more notable Bernays's domestic US projects was getting women to smoke, a request he
    was approached by the American tobacco industry. Bernays staged "militant feminist action" during
    major public events where large numbers of women took out cigarettes in unison and lit up provocatively.

    Paying a handful of people a couple of thousand dollars is worth the attention the (downgraded) PS3 is getting in return...

  69. When do they stop to take a Wii? by Megane · · Score: 1

    Now I wish Nintendo had gone ahead and made the Wii release date be a few days before the PS3 release. Then we could walk in and right out of the store, waving our newly purchased Wiis at them.

    Why wait? Wii!

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  70. Because if you pre-order it... by patio11 · · Score: 1

    ... you're not hard-core enough. Standing in line doesn't have anything to do with the PS3, its all about *them* and how *they* are such big fans that they *stood in line for a week to play the PS3*. Its a mark of social status and something you can bet they will brag about for years. Now, personally, I'd rather brag "I went into the store and pre-ordered a Wii. Took about 45 seconds. Thats about what its going to take me on December 2nd, too". I guess I just did.

  71. Begging to get mugged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Several people with enough money to buy a PS3 alone at night?

  72. Console lines by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

    I can only speak for the Dreamcast because it was the only system that I got on the day it came out. I pre-ordered mine, paid the full cost in advance, and waited about 30 minutes to an hour. I was also able to purchase Soul Calibur once I got into the store. I remember the store being opened at midnight on the day the Dreamcast came out, and only folks with pre-orders could get the system. I don't remember people waiting in line who hadn't pre-ordered. I wouldn't imagine the mall that the store was in would take kindly to people camping out.

  73. Re:Treat them like tickets under antiscalping laws by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
    I really don't understand your issue with stopping these guys doing what they are doing.

    Don't get me wrong, I won't queue more than two minutes for a coffee in Starbucks, let alone seven days for a games console. Likewise buying a console for $600 and selling it on eBay for $1500 would not be worth anywhere near a week's worth of my time.

    But if someone is prepared to pay 2.5 times the price for it on eBay, then what's the problem? They're just taking advantage of the fact that there are some people with more money than sense for whom it worth paying more than twice the price to be "first on the block" to get a PS3.

    Good luck to them - if anything, the guys selling them on eBay probably have more sense than those who are queuing a week beforehand to get one for themselves...

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  74. On the dole by scotth115 · · Score: 1

    from the preface of Parliament of Whores...

    P.J. O'Rourke >> How come whenever something upsets the Left you see immediate marches and parades and rallies with signs already printed and rhyming slogans already composed, whereas whenever something upsets the Right you see two members of the Young Americans for Freedom waving a six-inch American flag?

    Andrew Ferguson >> We have jobs.

    Same concept here.

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  75. Good for America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They sure as hell won't be forming in Europe anytime soon... ;)

  76. Nine, not seven. by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

    Don't forget about the guy who observed it and the slashdot editor who posted it.

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  77. Hypnotherapy? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

    Pardon me for asking, but how does a clinical hypnotherapist from Wales have extended contact through unreleased consoles and software through his job?

    And is Sony gonna crucify your ass for breaking an NDA when they see this?

  78. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by lupine_stalker · · Score: 1

    That would actually be a serious financial blow to Sony, considering how much they are losing on every console. If someone bought all the consoles, but didn't buy any games, it could very well ruin Sony.

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  79. Cool by CxDoo · · Score: 1

    So if you come, say, next Monday morning, you'll have to wait until all ten of them shop?
    Tough.

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  80. Think about it... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

    ...if they weren't queuing outside, they'd be indoors for 7 days playing on their consoles. At least they're getting some sun and fresh air for a few days!

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  81. If someone has nothing better to do... by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    ..than queue for 7 days to buy a games console (or anything non vital for that matter)they *really* need to consider getting a life.

  82. Nov 17th? by krunchyfrog · · Score: 0

    That's funny, my next boy is due November 17th! Hope there's going to be a PS3 in there too! ;)

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  83. For those of us who have a life... by SupaYoda · · Score: 0, Troll

    Learned of the preorder date set. Drove down to the local game store an hour before it opened. Nobody there, so I went next door to eat breakfast. Came back thirty minutes later to find one person in line (a secretary sent there by her boss). Stayed to chat until the store opened. Got a preorder (second in line). Decided I could wait until after they find and fix the bugs and lower the price for the first time. Will be making some extra money before Christmas by selling it on eBay. If I happen upon an Elmo TMX, I'll be buying and selling that, too.

  84. Then the next question is... by fury88 · · Score: 1

    If you are standing out there and unemployed. Where do you get the money to buy that thing?

  85. Then the next question is... by fury88 · · Score: 1

    If you ARE unemployed, where are you getting $600 to buy a PS3? I am not sure I want to know...

  86. Do the Math. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    7 people, 7 days. They switch each day. So you wait one day, and in the end you get a PS3 faster than your pretend-friends.
    I would do the same, not for the PS3 though.

    *pre-orders Wii*

  87. D&D in Line by Phaxn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just think of all the D&D you could play while waiting!

    1. Re:D&D in Line by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      ...now if you could show the scalpers the Dread Gazebo. Their last words they'd hear would be "Flip That!"

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  88. Re:Treat them like tickets under antiscalping laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ticket scalping laws themselves are wrong.

    If a limited commodity is sold at a vastly undercut price it is the duty of the free market to bring the price of the commodity up to what its true value is. That is what ticket scalping is all about.

    I can understand the government stepping in if we were talking about transportation/health/food/shelter, but you're talking about baseball game tickets and PS3s. These are things anyone can do without. When the government steps in to regulate prices for ENTERTAINMENT, good Lord, I am amazed people don't get more pissed off.

    The truth is that most scalpers will go away when ticket prices are high enough at the box office that scalpers have no margin. There will still be the one or two hardcore scalpers that hope they will find a sucker, but those people exist EVERYWHERE. Yes, you can complain that the cost of tickets is too high, but unless you put your money where your mouth is, the people selling the tickets (or PS3s) get the last laugh. And good for them--they deserve it; as a fool and his money are soon parted.

  89. You ARE kidding, right? by dufachi · · Score: 1

    How can you afford to just take a week off work to plunk down $600 for a console? The only type of people who could afford to do this are little suckling pigs who get all their spending money from mommy and daddy or some sugar daddy/mommy who should be getting therapy from Dr. Phil.

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    1. Re:You ARE kidding, right? by Raistlin77 · · Score: 1

      How can you afford to just take a week off work to plunk down $600 for a console?

      If you are a salary employee, you likely have paid vacation time, thus you likely will have both A) a week to take off work and B) a paycheck to cover that $600 for a PS3. Personally I can think of a thousand better ways to spend both.

    2. Re:You ARE kidding, right? by PriceIke · · Score: 1

      Can we get Triumph to go pay them a visit? Please??

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  90. I fought the law... by parcel · · Score: 1

    Someone should call the cops... there has to be some sort of anti-vagrancy law that these people can be kicked out for. But not until a night or two before release. Even if they're just Sony shills, that would be hilarious.

  91. With due respect to Bill Engvall... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

    With due respect to Bill Engvall, my reaction to these people waiting on line would be "Here's your sign!"

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  92. Re:Microsoft should buy all 200000, then trash the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Semi-serious question: Would that be considered anti-competitive behavior?

  93. Shameful statement on American priorities... by darthtom · · Score: 1

    If these people have been in line since Monday, they skipped voting to get a PS3. Somehow, I think choosing our country's leadership is just a little more important than an overpriced game console. Shame on these guys for not getting their priorities straight.

    1. Re:Shameful statement on American priorities... by dbfruth · · Score: 1

      Are these really people you want voting anyway? I can just see them in the voting booth. "I don't know who to vote for? Which candidate supports Blu-Ray"

  94. That's Odd.... by jlf278 · · Score: 1
    because in Japan NOBODY is lining up for the PS3, and it releases 11/11 there. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/744/744967p1.html

    (Although they are lining up for DS Lites!)

  95. Re:Treat them like tickets under antiscalping laws by steveo777 · · Score: 1
    Answer: Sell locally. Keep 'open' relationship with original buyer. Save your contact information and write up a small, personal contract stating that if there is a warentable problem the seller will help out the buyer by sending it in. Easily could be a verbal contract. Obviously this won't work well for people buying overseas and the like, but that's what local means.


    If I profit off some dope $400 bucks and his PS3 craps out a month later, I wouldn't mind sending it in for him/her. Long as he/she pays for it.

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  96. Paging Triumph the insult comic by British · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Triumph & a camera crew should get out to the lines. He could heckle them good, just like he did at the lines of the Star Wars premiere.

  97. Wii in Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Nice try bu Wii are better ;-)

    Pictures and infos about Wii preorders in Japan:
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12800 4


    As this is being written, it's just after 9:00 am in Tokyo and over 100 people are lined up outside of the Tsutaya music/game/dvd store in the district of Shibuya. No, there's no celebrity DVD signing or AAA CD release - people lined up to preorder the Nintendo Wii after word leaked that preorders would begin this morning

    Lines are common for major game and console releases in Japan, but not for preorders. "I've never seen anything like this," said our correspondent John Ricciardi, currently in line.
  98. Tickets should not be taken internally. by Phanatic1a · · Score: 1

    Homer: Heh heh, I did it! Second in line, and all I had to do was
                  miss eight days of work.
        Man: With the money you would have made working, you could have bought
                  tickets from a scalper.
    Homer: In theory, yes. Jerk.

  99. Odd.. by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

    I made 3 replies in this story, and they show up on my comments list.. but the original comments that I replied to are gone.

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  100. Opportunity for Microsoft.... by usedtolosing · · Score: 1

    Ok, so here is what MS should do:
    1. Trot out game stations to where the lines are forming.
    2. Let the SONY freaks play for free any game they like on the xbox360 while the people wait in line.
    3. Have xbox units for sale on site, and either offer a 50$ rebate, or choice of ANY free game with the console.
    4. Laugh at how fast the lines disappear for the PS3.

  101. Rent a Fanboy by Chayak · · Score: 1

    Need your new game system and don't want to stand outside the store for weeks to get it? Do we have the answer for you! Rent a Fanboy has quality fanboys who will stand in your place and are equipped with the latest in outdoor survival gear to prevent death from exposure! ... not responsable from injuries caused while retrieving your game system from the Fanboy.

  102. Mr. Kettle, you have a call from a Mr. Pot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this guy boasts about getting a job at Best Buy in one breath and passes judgment on its customers in the next.

  103. What is worse? by RRRobotHouse · · Score: 0

    These fools waiting in line this far in advance or people on ./ whining about it?

  104. Yeah I see.. that is weird. by @madeus · · Score: 1



    Great, you've broken /. :-(

    No cookie for you!

  105. I wish i could get paid to do that by Tweekster · · Score: 1

    What a sweet job, I wish Sony would hire me to do that.

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  106. Reminds me of South Park +Wii Episode by LiquidNitrogen · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of South Park +Wii Episode ... doh

  107. When Best Buy Workers Become God by emilyridesabmx · · Score: 1

    It's all well and good to wait in line for a week,but the Best Buy employees are gtting those PS3's. We all know that this is the one time working at Best Buy will bring those employees any type of status or respect from their fellow man. The best buy Stock Monkeys may even get laid. I'm sure most of the units that initially ship will go out the back door to the manager's girl friend and the employees gaming buddies. If you can't get yourself an early release system as a perk, you may as well work at McDonalds.

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  108. wait a sec by jaimz22 · · Score: 0

    wait! there's a ps3?!?

  109. PS3 shortages by norminator · · Score: 1

    I've got a feeling that even with a release date 2 days after, we'll still be able to walk out with Wiis while the PS3 kids are still sitting out on the sidewalk, waiting for that 2nd shipment...

  110. Opportunity for Microsoft.... by usedtolosing · · Score: 1

    Ok, so here is what MS should do:
    1. Trot out game stations to where the lines are forming.
    2. Let the SONY freaks play for free any game they like on the xbox360 while the people wait in line.
    3. Have xbox units for sale on site, and either offer a 50$ rebate, or choice of ANY free game with the console.
    4. Laugh at how fast the lines disappear for the PS3.

  111. Lines forming already? by Abattoir · · Score: 1

    Wow thats gonna be crappy news for the people who have been freezing themselves for the last 2 weeks...

  112. Re:Treat them like tickets under antiscalping laws by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Indeed. My intent was to raise the cost of circumvention so high that it effectively eats time and money out of all involved, beyond which can be turned into a valid business expense.

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  113. Do they know they'll get one? by amaiman · · Score: 1

    It will really suck for those 7 people when (if) the store takes the "lottery" approach and hands out numbers at like 5am to everyone present including the morons who sat there for a week that won't get their PS3 :-)

    Should make for some interesting photos/TV, though, like those stampedes for the cheap laptops last year...

  114. moderators? by buckadude · · Score: 1

    Does it seem to anyone else like the moderators favor comments purporting that the PS3 or anything involved with it is ridiculous? It just seems like theres been a great deal of smear going on both in posts and articles. Not that I expect totally unbiased info on /. but hey it seems to be getting out of hand. Maybe I'm just plain wrong?

  115. I Am Beginning To Think... by His+Shadow · · Score: 1

    ...that many consoles gamers are morons. But no less idiotic than movies fans who stood in line for a film that premiered simultaneously in 4000 theatres.

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  116. New form of marketing by Cartack · · Score: 0

    What if sony paid these people to be in line 9 days in advance. The publicity they are generating from this event would cost them millions to reproduce through other venues.

  117. what the hell? by SP33doh · · Score: 1

    go a block away to another store?

    NAAAHH...


    also, WHY THE PS3?
    I'm not a PS3 hater (at all), but on release? WHO cares that much for resistance: fall of man and RIIIiIIdge RAACERRR? (sure, resistance's by an amazing developer, one of my favorites, insomniac, but... really?)

    what part of wii/ZELDA are they missing?

    I mean for christ's it's ZELDA

  118. Bud or butt? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    Well, the taste is comparable...

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  119. Let them try it... by SirKron · · Score: 1

    somewhere where snow is in the forcast. Now that would show dedication.

  120. All About Games by aphxtwn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think buying a console on the first day is more for novelty than anything else. Chances are people who get the PS3 on the release day will be playing Gears of War a lot until the PS3 gets some good games out. I waited a while in line and bought my xbox 360 the day of its release. To be honest, in retrospect I wouldn't do it again. After I got it, I hardly played it because there weren't any real titles I liked. Now I'm stuck with an early revision of the 360 which sounds like a hair-dryer. Generally, launch titles suck because developers are pushed by the console manufacturer to release and they're not familiar with new hardware and may not be able to make full use of its abilities. I have to admit, the Wii looks interesting though. The only reason I would buy it is because of the new Zelda game.

  121. Perhaps... by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 1

    ...if they went into a state of suspended animation by freezing themselves ... like in the space movies ....

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  122. Uhh by Dakman · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't that suck if launch date came around, and it turns out they forgot there money?

  123. dumb by Is0m0rph · · Score: 1

    Sounds pretty stupid to me. I expect to just walk into a store and buy a Wii if I feel like it. Though my local Best Buy told me they only expect 3 or 4 PS3s shipped to them and they won't be opening at midnight or anything special. First come first serve.

  124. Re: Damnit by kmhebert · · Score: 1

    How the hell can you afford to stand in a line for over a week?? Are you taking vacation time from work? Are you unemployed? Unemployable? And why the hell would you stand in a line for a week even if you had the time? Stupid kids and their rock music.

    I agree, it's that very slim mutually inclusive combination of people who have enough money to pay for the PS3 but who don't have a job to earn that money.

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  125. Riiiight... by Warshadow · · Score: 1

    The same guys who are making fun of them for waiting while they themselves are walking in to get 360 games are the ones who camped out for two weeks to get a 360 first.

  126. Popularity by gamer4Life · · Score: 0, Troll

    Perhaps the PS3 isn't doomed for failure like so many people have suggested, and that common people that don't listen to the doom and gloom coming from blogs are actually interested in buying the PS3 because they think it holds good value?

  127. yeah by wolfing · · Score: 1

    You guys really don't understand the whole phenomena. The people forming these lines are the same that formed lines for days for the Star Wars or Lord of Ring movies. They have the same likes and can talk in the same 'language'. When they form those lines, being there is part of the fun. If you're a season ticket holder for any sports team it's a similar feeling of going to the opening day and seeing the other ticket holders that you know from years before. Also, you're not talking about one person here. Those forming lines are actually teams of people working on shifts. Luckily I don't have that fanatism. I'll buy my PS3 probably in February or March, I still have plenty of PS2 games to play.

  128. being a PC fanboy is easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont have to wait in any lines =D

  129. What would they do by cpt.hugenstein · · Score: 1

    If they do this for a PS3 what would they do for a Klondike Bar?

  130. Pathetic by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    I really have no tolerance whatsoever for people who wait in line or dramatically over pay to get their hands on a damn console.

    There are PS3 pre-orders on Ebay going for over $1500. How pathetic does a person have to be that they can't wait a damn month or two to buy the system at retail price.

    People criticize the government for investing in programs like space exploration which ultimately are beneficial to humanity. But then these people will have no problem paying an obscene amount of money for something which serves no useful purpose whatsoever.

    Some people really have no sense of priority.

  131. financhaly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    financhaly?

    Do you by chance have a lisp?

  132. Avoid College Towns... by patrixmyth · · Score: 1

    I learned this by calling around last year for the XBOX 360, which I ebayed for a profit of $40/hour invested. Head out to a rural town just big enough to have a walmart that DOES NOT have a college of any sort nearby, and arrive a few hours (2-3 is plenty) before the ticket handout. You won't have a problem. You might drive a little farther to do this, but it's a lit more comfortable to drive a few hours out of town, then to sit in a lawnchair for 3 days. This may, of course, vary by state, or if Walmart's are exceedingly rare in your area.

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  133. It's obvious by acidrain69 · · Score: 1

    They are college students. Or paid-Sony-employees masquerading as college students.

    It's simple. The kind of person who can do this is the same kind of person that can jump in a car and go on a road trip for spring break on 10 minutes notice. I've been there. For me it was more like "Hey, it's like midnight, want to drive a few hours and crash on someone's floor and attend Gasparilla parade in Tampa?", answer: "Sure, lets get some illegal substances first."

    It has to do with the whole drinking thing. If you can polish off a large bottle of rum in a night, make an ass of yourself and sleep it off on the floor, only to wake up and do it again the next night, a week with friends in front of a store is nothing.

    My question is: if they are college students, where the HELL are they getting $600 from? I bet they are drug dealers.

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  134. Just $1500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    There are PS3 pre-orders on Ebay going for over $1500

    Check out here
    It is going for >$1900
  135. sucks to be them. by Jurrasic · · Score: 1

    I guess I am very lucky having a wife who's a graveyard-shift stocker at Superstore (where they dont do preorders) and her best friend is a stocker in the Electronics section. Guess who's going to wake up to a PS3 at the foot of the bed in the morning? Even though the Canadian price is going to be a bit higher, I should have no trouble flipping the unit on Ebay for enough to buy a loaded-out Wii (which will launch with actual fun games) or even build a killer PC for the games that matter. Thank you, Sony, for creating a culture of obsessive fools with a 'gotta have it NOW' mentality! The same kind of mentality that allows gold-farmers in WoW to thrive and power a whole segment of China's economy. To paraphrase The Joker, "This world needs an enema."

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  136. Etiquette vs. Opportunity by Ignatius+D'Lusional · · Score: 1
    You know, there aren't any real laws governing waiting in these lines, and the lines aren't necessarily governed or protected by these stores.


    Now, this may be really mean and/or really stupid... but what is there to prevent someone from just rolling in on the morning of the launch, waiting outside a few minutes before the doors open (not in the line), and rushing in once that moment arrives?

    Sure, everyone who waited in line will be pissed off, and you might risk a few teeth and broken bones, but that would be assault, right? Legally, if you've got the balls you don't need to stand in line, you just need to swoop in like a vulture at the last minute. To me, that sounds infinitely more fun than "camping" outside a store for a week!

  137. I think these guys are smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they'd probably buy a PS3 (or a couple) and sell them on ebay for a premium. Kinda smart of if you ask me for a quick buck, but I wouldn't camp out for a week, a day, or an hour.

  138. wrist bands by Monskers · · Score: 1

    I have heard that one store, can't remember which, had a fish bowl filled with wrist bands. The first 40 customers drew a random wrist band, and that determined the order of purchasing. I wonder if best buy will do this? I think it was an attempt get rid of the lines outside. however, I would hate to wait 7 days outside a best buy just to draw number 40 and walk away with the small HD version of the PS3. Oh well, guess i'll be sitting home playing my Xbox360 wait for my Wii to ship. I'll grab a PS3 next Xmas.

  139. ha ha by smash · · Score: 1

    I'll laugh if these clowns camping out to sell ps3s on ebay for 25% markup can't get rid of them :D

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  140. Only 3 per store by ananegg · · Score: 1

    I have quite a few friends in verious postions at GameStop and they have all said Sony is only giving out 3 units including pre-orders. So what's the point of Lining up?

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