M*soft will be rolling out Vista next year and 64 bit, yada yada. I'll buy it, you'll buy it, your company will buy it. Almost every new pc sold will have it installed. If you want to help the open source movement, you must develop for windows. Linux is not not a consumer os (yet). Right now it's for people who like spending 34 hours downloading, burning, compiling, coding, burning, downloading again (new distro this week),
Still living in the 90s?
That is simply no longer the case.
Install ubuntu from CD, download nvidia driver (as you would need to with windows anyway), boom.
Installed.
Been using it for 6 months without even having a compiler installed.
I will *not* buy Vista 64 bit (and not because I"m cheap/broke/live in mum's basement/whatever - I'm 28, living OUT of home and earning a decent wage with 90% disposable income).
There's simply no need for it.
Sure, there's a limited games selection, but there hasn't been a single game in the last 12 months thats really grabbed my attention in any case (and yes, I've been keeping an eye out/playing them from time to time on Windows) - except for GT4, which i play on PS2.
I love how many people consider themselves an authority on the whole Windows v Linux debate, when they clearly have no experience with Linux since the mid-late 1990s...
One problem is that open source on Windows faces the problem of no one having compiler software installed.
Also, the whole point of open source is to not be bound by proprietry technology - why write for Win32, ASP, etc when the future of your application is at the whim of Microsoft in terms of changes to APIs, deliberate crippling of your app (if it competes in a market MS wants for themselves), fighting to get bugs fixed, etc?
I guess it comes down to this: Why bother going to the trouble of writing an "open" app when you're still bound to a proprietry O/S?
You're free to do so, but don't expect everyone else to jump on the bandwagon...
Whilst I don't like what sony has done here in the slightest, those calling for them to be sued, etc are missing a cruicial (IMHO) piece of information.
I am under *NO DOUBT* whatsoever that Sony will simply point the finger at first4internet, and simply say "We simply contracted them to provide a content protection scheme - we are unaware of the implementation" (or words to that effect). Given that the tech has been sold to several other record companies, I'm pretty sure that's close to the mark as to what actually happened, too.
So, it's first4internet who will take the heat in a criminal case, not Sony, no doubt.
Sony is evil and all, but I don't think it was Sony who was responsible for the way it works...
The Redmond, Wash., software giant may be changing its position on the OpenDocument format. Last week, Microsoft chief technology officer Ray Ozzie told the ZDNet Internet news site that Microsoft is working with a French company to develop a product that would translate Office documents into the OpenDocument format.
Could this be the first crack in the "vendor lock in" for MS-Office?
Microsoft changes/keeps secret/obfuscates the office document formats on a regular basis to prevent inter-operability with any other office suite - you're stuck continually upgrading to stay compatible with everyone else.
Opendocument is a documented "standard" - if they start supporting that, they're throwing away their leverage with office formats...
If they don't support it - chances are that they'll lose at least this, and possibly a hell of a lot of other government contracts... which will encourage selection of the alternatives for everyone else.
What are my options if I don't want to use a net connection?
Good question. There's 400 desktops here that simply will not upgrade if a net connection becomes a requirement - bandwidth to remote areas (eg, the mine site that I am currently working at) is simply too expensive - I really can't see management deciding to spend another 5 million dollars (plus ongoing bandwidth costs) to run fibre out to site simply so they can upgrade to WebOffice 2008.:D
They're reluctant enough to upgrade to new versions of office/Windows, etc that aren't "broken" as it is... the only reason that happens is to maintain compatibility with new machines...
Linux is already right on the edge of being fit for everyday desktop use:D
It's already there if you want to give up being able to run *every* game perfectly - Transgaming is good, but its not 100% there yet.
I was running Linux exclusively (no dual boot) for 6 months (have been dual booting, etc for 9 years) - the only reasons I have Windows installed right now are Quake 4 (the linux installer is buggy at the moment and I couldn't get it to work on ubuntu) and Eve Online (which works on Linux, just very slow load times).
For regular content creation, etc - I already find it more productive than Windows.
For use in a corporate environment with AD it will require some work to migrate at the moment, but all it needs is somebody to create an easy to set up LDAP/Kerberos authentication package to replace AD with (it's already possible I believe, just not easy) and the reasons not to shift are becoming fairly few.
Web applications are where things are going - and in that area Linux is streets ahead. The things Linux is currently poor at (desktop apps, etc) are very quickly becoming either commodities, or irrelevant...
Open source is great and all, but there's specialised apps where there simply is not a viable alternative. And if you're bound to a commercial app, then you're either going to run redhat, or get no support from your app vendor, in most cases. Yes, you can likely get it to work, but as soon as you run into an application bug, you're screwed - reinstall on redhat or you'll probably get no support.
Modular mining for example...
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Maybe we should ban the sale of that stuff while we're at it?
Isn't e-bay the auctioneer? Given that they take part of the cash for the transaction (ie, charge for the service) shouldn't they legally be the party responsible for the auction?
Anything that interrupts my viewing of a page when I'm half way through. or clutters my desktop gets blocked.
Banners? I don't care - if its a free site, they need to raise money somehow.
Pop ups and pop unders though are just irritating, and interfere with my reading. Put it this way - i've bought stuff advertisied in a banner before (amazon i think), but I'll try to remember popups I see so that I can avoid giving the company my business if at all possible.
If some cd being released by a media company will not play on all drives due to alterations to that standard, then call the media something else - its no longer a CD.
I've got no problems with people putting DRM on CDs if they feel that way inclined, but don't expect me to buy it, unless they drastically lower the price (it has reduced functionality, and the whole point is to make it "piracy proof" so why do they need to inflate the price due to piracy in that case?), and actually make it clear on the cover that it will not work on all players.
If I buy a CD, I expect it to work on all my standards-compliant devices, unless clearly stated otherwise.
It doesn't take me 45 seconds to post a comment from my connection, and I'm on 512k ADSL in Australia.
Either you're talking out of your ass, or your ISP sucks ass - and you've got 3meg to their point of presence, and their backbone is fucked.. Seriously...
I've been here since the early days (see UID... I didn't bother getting an account for a week or so after accounts were implemented:D)...
Unfortunately, its one of the symptoms of Linux/*NIX (eg MacOS X) going main-stream, and it being "cool" to brag about running the "alternative" (Firefox, Linux, MacOS, etc).
So we're ending up with a bunch of fashion wannabe hangers-on regurgitating the same old mindless shit, and the signal to noise ratio has gone to shit.
Think skript-kiddie or counter-strike lamer, who thinks its cool to use 'leet speak and pretend they're an uber-hax0r and I think we're pretty close to the demographic of a lot of new Linux users.
At the end of the day, popularity of an alternative to Microsoft is a good thing I guess, but unfortunately average IQ of the userbase has to drop...
Slashdot Mirror
What crack are the moderators on today, and where can i get some? :D
smash.
Actually - where's the actual useful stuff, it just looks like yet another web portal to me...
smash.
Still living in the 90s?
That is simply no longer the case.
Install ubuntu from CD, download nvidia driver (as you would need to with windows anyway), boom.
Installed.
Been using it for 6 months without even having a compiler installed.
I will *not* buy Vista 64 bit (and not because I"m cheap/broke/live in mum's basement/whatever - I'm 28, living OUT of home and earning a decent wage with 90% disposable income).
There's simply no need for it.
Sure, there's a limited games selection, but there hasn't been a single game in the last 12 months thats really grabbed my attention in any case (and yes, I've been keeping an eye out/playing them from time to time on Windows) - except for GT4, which i play on PS2.
I love how many people consider themselves an authority on the whole Windows v Linux debate, when they clearly have no experience with Linux since the mid-late 1990s...
smash.
Also, the whole point of open source is to not be bound by proprietry technology - why write for Win32, ASP, etc when the future of your application is at the whim of Microsoft in terms of changes to APIs, deliberate crippling of your app (if it competes in a market MS wants for themselves), fighting to get bugs fixed, etc?
I guess it comes down to this: Why bother going to the trouble of writing an "open" app when you're still bound to a proprietry O/S?
You're free to do so, but don't expect everyone else to jump on the bandwagon...
smash.
*sigh*
smash
I am under *NO DOUBT* whatsoever that Sony will simply point the finger at first4internet, and simply say "We simply contracted them to provide a content protection scheme - we are unaware of the implementation" (or words to that effect). Given that the tech has been sold to several other record companies, I'm pretty sure that's close to the mark as to what actually happened, too.
So, it's first4internet who will take the heat in a criminal case, not Sony, no doubt.
Sony is evil and all, but I don't think it was Sony who was responsible for the way it works...
smash.
Could this be the first crack in the "vendor lock in" for MS-Office?
Microsoft changes/keeps secret/obfuscates the office document formats on a regular basis to prevent inter-operability with any other office suite - you're stuck continually upgrading to stay compatible with everyone else.
Opendocument is a documented "standard" - if they start supporting that, they're throwing away their leverage with office formats...
If they don't support it - chances are that they'll lose at least this, and possibly a hell of a lot of other government contracts... which will encourage selection of the alternatives for everyone else.
Interesting times...
smash.
Good question. There's 400 desktops here that simply will not upgrade if a net connection becomes a requirement - bandwidth to remote areas (eg, the mine site that I am currently working at) is simply too expensive - I really can't see management deciding to spend another 5 million dollars (plus ongoing bandwidth costs) to run fibre out to site simply so they can upgrade to WebOffice 2008. :D
They're reluctant enough to upgrade to new versions of office/Windows, etc that aren't "broken" as it is... the only reason that happens is to maintain compatibility with new machines...
smash.
Linux is already right on the edge of being fit for everyday desktop use :D
It's already there if you want to give up being able to run *every* game perfectly - Transgaming is good, but its not 100% there yet.
I was running Linux exclusively (no dual boot) for 6 months (have been dual booting, etc for 9 years) - the only reasons I have Windows installed right now are Quake 4 (the linux installer is buggy at the moment and I couldn't get it to work on ubuntu) and Eve Online (which works on Linux, just very slow load times).
For regular content creation, etc - I already find it more productive than Windows.
For use in a corporate environment with AD it will require some work to migrate at the moment, but all it needs is somebody to create an easy to set up LDAP/Kerberos authentication package to replace AD with (it's already possible I believe, just not easy) and the reasons not to shift are becoming fairly few.
Web applications are where things are going - and in that area Linux is streets ahead. The things Linux is currently poor at (desktop apps, etc) are very quickly becoming either commodities, or irrelevant...
smash.
Try a commercial app on anything but redhat.
Open source is great and all, but there's specialised apps where there simply is not a viable alternative. And if you're bound to a commercial app, then you're either going to run redhat, or get no support from your app vendor, in most cases. Yes, you can likely get it to work, but as soon as you run into an application bug, you're screwed - reinstall on redhat or you'll probably get no support.
Modular mining for example...
smash (linux user/promoter of 9 years).
Shit...
smash.
Buy bulk in motherboards that will support both.
No dead stock you can't shift anymore.
Regardless of the performance, the words "AMD" or "Intel" is enough to sell things to most of the Joe public...
smash.
(yes, I realise it wasn't necessarily the article submitter who did it, but whoever hacked the remote site deserves troll of the year :D)
smash.
smash.
smash.
Banners? I don't care - if its a free site, they need to raise money somehow.
Pop ups and pop unders though are just irritating, and interfere with my reading. Put it this way - i've bought stuff advertisied in a banner before (amazon i think), but I'll try to remember popups I see so that I can avoid giving the company my business if at all possible.
smash.
smash.
smash.
If some cd being released by a media company will not play on all drives due to alterations to that standard, then call the media something else - its no longer a CD.
I've got no problems with people putting DRM on CDs if they feel that way inclined, but don't expect me to buy it, unless they drastically lower the price (it has reduced functionality, and the whole point is to make it "piracy proof" so why do they need to inflate the price due to piracy in that case?), and actually make it clear on the cover that it will not work on all players.
If I buy a CD, I expect it to work on all my standards-compliant devices, unless clearly stated otherwise.
smash.
smash.
It doesn't take me 45 seconds to post a comment from my connection, and I'm on 512k ADSL in Australia.
Either you're talking out of your ass, or your ISP sucks ass - and you've got 3meg to their point of presence, and their backbone is fucked.. Seriously...
smash.
I've been here since the early days (see UID... I didn't bother getting an account for a week or so after accounts were implemented :D)...
Unfortunately, its one of the symptoms of Linux/*NIX (eg MacOS X) going main-stream, and it being "cool" to brag about running the "alternative" (Firefox, Linux, MacOS, etc).
So we're ending up with a bunch of fashion wannabe hangers-on regurgitating the same old mindless shit, and the signal to noise ratio has gone to shit.
Think skript-kiddie or counter-strike lamer, who thinks its cool to use 'leet speak and pretend they're an uber-hax0r and I think we're pretty close to the demographic of a lot of new Linux users.
At the end of the day, popularity of an alternative to Microsoft is a good thing I guess, but unfortunately average IQ of the userbase has to drop...
smash.
Methinks that perhaps you would be better suited to a job over at Fox, with your fair and balanced analysis of security issues :D
smash.
smash.
Thats a true-er representation of security.
Mozilla usually patch flaws fairly quickly - there's flaws in IE that have been known for *years* before they were patched, if at all.
smash.