Don't get me wrong. I do not idolize Obama. He was, IMHO, the much lesser of two evils. He is a left center politician, a complete moderate, and I wanted a radical.
Now that it's not W running the show, I guess is okay that the wars (and funding for them) are continuing, that the illegal wiretapping is being even more vociferously defended, that federal agents can write their own warrants and continue to do so, and the widening income gap will continue to widen as the rich are bailed out and the middle class is left to pick up the tab.
You've just expressed my sentiments exactly. However, my issue with the teabaggers boils down to their idea that they have anything in common with the Boston tea party. This is not a case of taxation without representation. They had a fair shot at putting their man in power, they lost fair and square. They have representation. They can write to their congresscritters, just like I could when the Republicans held power.
Teabaggers do not believe in democracy. They want things their way, and they will use any despicable tactics to get that. They are childish and unpatriotic.
Interesting. Got a link? I'd be willing to retract my statement of 'no minority teabaggers' and replace it with 'next to no minority teabaggers' if you could show me that site. After all, idiots come in all shapes, colors and sizes, so it is not inconceivable that some idiots of the minority persuasion were present.
As Clinton proved, a skillful president can cut costs at the same time as they increase services, by trimming the bureaucratic fat. Our health care system is enormously inefficient. We spend twice as much, as a percentage of GDP, as the next most expensive health care system, for results that would make a third world country blush. Surely there are things we can do to bring our standard of care up to the level provided by Europe, while still cutting costs down to the level of same.
But this does not address the major fallacy of your argument.You seem to be assuming that we are not rationing care now. Insurance companies are for profit businesses, and they ration care as much as they possibly can. And if you do not have health care, you are effectively rationed to zero.
You are also assuming that we would do away with private health care, that someone unable to receive needed care through a government program would be unable to find it in the private sector. I really don't see that happening. So what you are really claiming in your argument is that some percentage of people who are currently not receiving health care, and who would then enter a government program, would still be in the same boat they are now, unable to receive needed care. And? So what? No system is perfect.
However, this is not the real argument as presented by deathers. There was a sensible provision in one version of one bill to provide end of life counseling, and to track adherence to the patients stated end of life plan. Meaning, if the patient says, "Give me everything you've got!" the system would track whether that desire was followed, the same as if the person said, "pull the plug." Certain vocal special interest groups seized on this as proof that Obama wanted to kill your grandmother. This is the real origin of the death panel rumor.
Please provide some sort of evidence to back up your wild assertion, a photo of a minority at a teabag party or town-hall rally clearly holding a birther/deather poster would do the trick.
No they're not, Captain Clueless. The two (or three, as it were) have nothing to do with each other. Only the jackass who modded you "insightful" is more clueless.
All three are absolutely ridiculous assertions that have been debunked six ways from Sunday. Believing that death panels will kill your granny, or that the President of the United States was born in Kenya, are as ludicrous as believing the Earth is flat, or that we never landed on the moon.
It simply does not matter whether a genetic change was brought about by human manipulation or random chance. A change in the genome is a change in the genome. You are still starting with a genome, right? There's your common ancestor. Was the genome designed? No. Were the changes designed? Yes. Is the resulting organism designed? Surely with our level of technology, not enough to even register.
I don't mean to be a dick, I'm really trying to be polite, but your questions simply do not merit a philosophical or philosophy of science level of answer. They are too simplistic. Sorry.
I'm sure you can find some better reasons to be skeptical than what you list.
Yes, but perhaps his real reasons for being skeptical will earn him a vicious mocking from others, and he wishes to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt without stating what his real issues are?
From what I have seen, you are too earnest and concerned about your karma to be trolling. So let me kindly point out some of the misconceptions others may have missed. Obviously, you get the point that nobody thinks we are descended from monkeys. That's been hammered home, yes? But above that, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that biological science consists of deciding which critters look like which other critters. While this used to be the case, back before we had better methods, we can now do genetic analysis and figure out much more accurately what is or was related to what.
You also seem to be confused as the the concept of 'related.' If you and your sister are descended from the same point, say, your mother and father, are you related? Yes. Yes you are. We are not the descendants of monkeys, but we are still in the same family, so to speak. In fact, based on genetic evidence, even several million years after we split off from our common ancestor, we were still occasionally getting it on with them and making babies. It was discussed right here on Slashdot some time ago.
I can't really tell you why this whole idea of common descent is interesting, either you find it so or you don't. I can tell you why it is interesting to other people, though. Science is a process that approaches, but never reaches the truth. We make theories, and we see what predictions those theories make. Then we look for evidence showing whether or not those predictions are true, Finally, if the evidence shows the predictions are not true, we modify our theories. For instance, we had to modify Newton's theory of gravity when its predictions about the orbit of Mercury proved false. That lead to the Einstein's theories of relativity. But we still use Newton's theories in day to day engineering, because they are simpler to calculate and give correct results outside of relativistic situations. The truth or falsehood of theories is irrelevant, the only relevant question in science is, does the theory make accurate predictions?
How does this relate to the theory of evolution? Well, it is one piece of a giant puzzle. We have all of these pieces of evidence: fossils, DNA, carbon dating, and so on. They all fit together, forming a giant structure of factual support for the theory of evolution. If even one of these pieces did not fit, for instance, if we found a rabbit skeleton from the Jurassic period, then we would have to modify inconceivably large chunks of our current theories, not just evolution, but just about everything would need reevaluation.
So here we have a new piece. Does it fit? I find that question interesting. Many other people do too.
Birthers are a group of clueless, angry white people who firmly believe President Obama was born outside the US. Deathers are a group, nearly identical in membership, that believes President Obama wants to enact 'death panels' that will deny needed health care to seniors. Most birthers are deathers, and vice versa. They also tend to believe that they either need to secede from the union, or stage a military coup, as the country has now become a communist dictatorship. Hope that helps.
To this, let me just add, that low UID trolls are still trolls.
No we aren't. We're "offtopic" which never comes up for metamod, and thus shields the moderator from the presumed risk of modding us down, but does not effect our massive karma. But we don't get treated that way because we're better than you, it's simply because you aren't as good as us.
But I wasn't even trying to "troll," this time. I was trying to make a "joke." "Sorry" to have "offended" you. I just think overuse of "quotation marks" is "hilarious."
...has fined Oracle $10,000 for Oracle's ads published August 27 and September 3 on the front page of the Wall Street Journal...
From the parent post:
then again, I haven't even heard Oracle published any advertisement about the new an improved performance. this fine only raises the attention---may make some wait for something great in october from Oracle:-)
Really, that is your defense? Seriously? Couldn't be bothered to read the first sentence of the summary, could you? Wishful thinking just completely blinded you, didn't it? Sad.
No one is going to wait for anything great from Oracle. All the other vendors will make bank from this gaffe, whether the performance results Oracle claims are true or not. And it won't even matter when the true results come out, the other vendors will ensure those results remain forever tainted in their customers' eyes, because those vendors will not be sued or fined when they continue to claim that Oracle was fined for publishing those numbers. They were fined, even if the numbers turn out to be true later.
It's called trolling. The troll usually does not believe or care about anything it says. What it cares about is the little thrill of power it feels when it 'makes' someone respond. Its goal was to gain control of someone else, even briefly, to cover up the utter lack of control the troll feels in its own life. It made you angry enough to admit that you are angry.
Fucking sad. It's fucking Troll Tuesday and you are giving trolling a bad name. There's more to it than repeating the same lame-ass comeback that didn't work the first time. Trolling is not a sport for douchebag losers, it requires wit, humor, and psychological insight. None of which you appear to posses in measurable quantities. See how I did that? I could have said, 'none of which you have,' but, like your pathetic attempts at trolling, that would have sounded lame, instead of driving home the point that I am far more educated and erudite than you.
I suppose I could teach you, but I don't have the patience for spastic, incompetent, socially backwards losers anymore. Go back to 4chan with the other friendless dorks, m'kay? This here's a place for people who don't have to wear helmets with chin straps and drool cups.
Says the man modded flamebait, who insists on repeating debunked nonsense. I'm not saying what is and isn't art, ass crab, I'm saying the exact opposite. Just because something is digital, does not mean it isn't fine art. Damn, you are fucking dim witted. Does your mommy help you press the right letters on the picture box?
Fuck off, troll. In all the years you've been here, you've added nothing of value to Slashdot. Nobody pays you any attention, your trolling is infantile, and your opinions are merely fetid spurts of verbal diarrhea. You are either deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying, or you've gone full retard and don't know how to get back. Just because you have an obese body, a tiny dick, and like to fuck a fleshlight with a picture of Jar-Jar Binks taped to it does not make you a geek. You don't get to converse with the geeks at the big boy table, you get to hang out with the other helmet headed window licking dorks on the short fucking bus, capiche?
I'm not a pompous fuck for saying I'm better than you, hell, I've shat things better than you.
Now that that's out of the way, let me clarify for anyone stupid enough to believe sexconker's creative interpretation of my thoughts. I don't think the artist makes a god damn difference. Fine art is anything that a large enough group of people consider emotionally meaningful for a long enough period of time. Period. Artist makes no difference, medium makes no difference, skill makes no difference, the only measure of fine art is the total amount of emotional impact it delivers.
We have trolls in the tags now? How cute. Here's a clue for you, every new art form is not considered fine art by crusty old timers. Then the old timers DIE and times move on and presto! It's fine art. It isn't about the medium in the first place. If I spatter paint on a canvas, it isn't going to be fine art. When Jackson Pollock did it, it was. My 3d models look nice, but they are a craft, not fine art. The guys who designed, oh say, Wall-E? Fine artists by any stretch of the imagination. Get it? It isn't the media, it is the artistic quality that determines whether something is fine art or not.
Whoever added that tag, the only connection you've got to art are the lead paint chips you ate as a child.
So, a normal lens will compress a series of pulses into a shorter series? How, exactly? I didn't realize that normal lenses worked by exciting the atoms in a waveguide with an infrared laser.
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The mobile section is actually only half Best Buy, and half Carphone Warehouse. They work on a different bonus structure and different power structure than the rest of the store, which the Mobile Manager reporting directly to a district manager and skipping the General Manager of the store, unlike every other dept.
I have no idea what you think you're talking about, but that is absolutely not true. Mobile is treated just like every other dept in the Best Buy stores. The only that is any different at all is the Magnolia sections, which work off of commission.
Carphone Warehouse is a European company. They announced a merger with Best Buy in May. Your info may be either out of date or country specific.
That's right. Meddling government regulators have never done anything good. These 'crumple zones' are not for our safety. They are actually amplifiers for the Major League Baseball mind control beams. But you sheeple go on purchasing your new cars with your 'crumple zones' and 'better gas mileage' and 'superior handling.' I'll be safe in my classic Ford Pinto.
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Oh. Oh my. Don't know how I missed that one. In hindsight, it was so obvious it was practically slapping me in the face.
You misspelled 'muslin.'
Don't get me wrong. I do not idolize Obama. He was, IMHO, the much lesser of two evils. He is a left center politician, a complete moderate, and I wanted a radical.
Now that it's not W running the show, I guess is okay that the wars (and funding for them) are continuing, that the illegal wiretapping is being even more vociferously defended, that federal agents can write their own warrants and continue to do so, and the widening income gap will continue to widen as the rich are bailed out and the middle class is left to pick up the tab.
You've just expressed my sentiments exactly. However, my issue with the teabaggers boils down to their idea that they have anything in common with the Boston tea party. This is not a case of taxation without representation. They had a fair shot at putting their man in power, they lost fair and square. They have representation. They can write to their congresscritters, just like I could when the Republicans held power.
Teabaggers do not believe in democracy. They want things their way, and they will use any despicable tactics to get that. They are childish and unpatriotic.
Interesting. Got a link? I'd be willing to retract my statement of 'no minority teabaggers' and replace it with 'next to no minority teabaggers' if you could show me that site. After all, idiots come in all shapes, colors and sizes, so it is not inconceivable that some idiots of the minority persuasion were present.
As Clinton proved, a skillful president can cut costs at the same time as they increase services, by trimming the bureaucratic fat. Our health care system is enormously inefficient. We spend twice as much, as a percentage of GDP, as the next most expensive health care system, for results that would make a third world country blush. Surely there are things we can do to bring our standard of care up to the level provided by Europe, while still cutting costs down to the level of same.
But this does not address the major fallacy of your argument.You seem to be assuming that we are not rationing care now. Insurance companies are for profit businesses, and they ration care as much as they possibly can. And if you do not have health care, you are effectively rationed to zero.
You are also assuming that we would do away with private health care, that someone unable to receive needed care through a government program would be unable to find it in the private sector. I really don't see that happening. So what you are really claiming in your argument is that some percentage of people who are currently not receiving health care, and who would then enter a government program, would still be in the same boat they are now, unable to receive needed care. And? So what? No system is perfect.
However, this is not the real argument as presented by deathers. There was a sensible provision in one version of one bill to provide end of life counseling, and to track adherence to the patients stated end of life plan. Meaning, if the patient says, "Give me everything you've got!" the system would track whether that desire was followed, the same as if the person said, "pull the plug." Certain vocal special interest groups seized on this as proof that Obama wanted to kill your grandmother. This is the real origin of the death panel rumor.
Not all birthers or deathers are white people.
Please provide some sort of evidence to back up your wild assertion, a photo of a minority at a teabag party or town-hall rally clearly holding a birther/deather poster would do the trick.
No they're not, Captain Clueless. The two (or three, as it were) have nothing to do with each other. Only the jackass who modded you "insightful" is more clueless.
All three are absolutely ridiculous assertions that have been debunked six ways from Sunday. Believing that death panels will kill your granny, or that the President of the United States was born in Kenya, are as ludicrous as believing the Earth is flat, or that we never landed on the moon.
It simply does not matter whether a genetic change was brought about by human manipulation or random chance. A change in the genome is a change in the genome. You are still starting with a genome, right? There's your common ancestor. Was the genome designed? No. Were the changes designed? Yes. Is the resulting organism designed? Surely with our level of technology, not enough to even register.
I don't mean to be a dick, I'm really trying to be polite, but your questions simply do not merit a philosophical or philosophy of science level of answer. They are too simplistic. Sorry.
I'm sure you can find some better reasons to be skeptical than what you list.
Yes, but perhaps his real reasons for being skeptical will earn him a vicious mocking from others, and he wishes to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt without stating what his real issues are?
From what I have seen, you are too earnest and concerned about your karma to be trolling. So let me kindly point out some of the misconceptions others may have missed. Obviously, you get the point that nobody thinks we are descended from monkeys. That's been hammered home, yes? But above that, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that biological science consists of deciding which critters look like which other critters. While this used to be the case, back before we had better methods, we can now do genetic analysis and figure out much more accurately what is or was related to what.
You also seem to be confused as the the concept of 'related.' If you and your sister are descended from the same point, say, your mother and father, are you related? Yes. Yes you are. We are not the descendants of monkeys, but we are still in the same family, so to speak. In fact, based on genetic evidence, even several million years after we split off from our common ancestor, we were still occasionally getting it on with them and making babies. It was discussed right here on Slashdot some time ago.
I can't really tell you why this whole idea of common descent is interesting, either you find it so or you don't. I can tell you why it is interesting to other people, though. Science is a process that approaches, but never reaches the truth. We make theories, and we see what predictions those theories make. Then we look for evidence showing whether or not those predictions are true, Finally, if the evidence shows the predictions are not true, we modify our theories. For instance, we had to modify Newton's theory of gravity when its predictions about the orbit of Mercury proved false. That lead to the Einstein's theories of relativity. But we still use Newton's theories in day to day engineering, because they are simpler to calculate and give correct results outside of relativistic situations. The truth or falsehood of theories is irrelevant, the only relevant question in science is, does the theory make accurate predictions?
How does this relate to the theory of evolution? Well, it is one piece of a giant puzzle. We have all of these pieces of evidence: fossils, DNA, carbon dating, and so on. They all fit together, forming a giant structure of factual support for the theory of evolution. If even one of these pieces did not fit, for instance, if we found a rabbit skeleton from the Jurassic period, then we would have to modify inconceivably large chunks of our current theories, not just evolution, but just about everything would need reevaluation.
So here we have a new piece. Does it fit? I find that question interesting. Many other people do too.
Birthers are a group of clueless, angry white people who firmly believe President Obama was born outside the US. Deathers are a group, nearly identical in membership, that believes President Obama wants to enact 'death panels' that will deny needed health care to seniors. Most birthers are deathers, and vice versa. They also tend to believe that they either need to secede from the union, or stage a military coup, as the country has now become a communist dictatorship. Hope that helps.
To this, let me just add, that low UID trolls are still trolls.
No we aren't. We're "offtopic" which never comes up for metamod, and thus shields the moderator from the presumed risk of modding us down, but does not effect our massive karma. But we don't get treated that way because we're better than you, it's simply because you aren't as good as us.
But I wasn't even trying to "troll," this time. I was trying to make a "joke." "Sorry" to have "offended" you. I just think overuse of "quotation marks" is "hilarious."
To this, let me just "add" that "overuse" of "quotation marks" is "annoying." I can almost "picture" you making the "air quotes" with your "fingers."
From the summary:
...has fined Oracle $10,000 for Oracle's ads published August 27 and September 3 on the front page of the Wall Street Journal...
From the parent post:
then again, I haven't even heard Oracle published any advertisement about the new an improved performance. this fine only raises the attention---may make some wait for something great in october from Oracle :-)
Really, that is your defense? Seriously? Couldn't be bothered to read the first sentence of the summary, could you? Wishful thinking just completely blinded you, didn't it? Sad.
No one is going to wait for anything great from Oracle. All the other vendors will make bank from this gaffe, whether the performance results Oracle claims are true or not. And it won't even matter when the true results come out, the other vendors will ensure those results remain forever tainted in their customers' eyes, because those vendors will not be sued or fined when they continue to claim that Oracle was fined for publishing those numbers. They were fined, even if the numbers turn out to be true later.
It's called trolling. The troll usually does not believe or care about anything it says. What it cares about is the little thrill of power it feels when it 'makes' someone respond. Its goal was to gain control of someone else, even briefly, to cover up the utter lack of control the troll feels in its own life. It made you angry enough to admit that you are angry.
Your feelings are troll food. YHBT. YHL. HAND.
Show's over, kid. Get your hand out of your pants and hit the road.
Don't take it personally, or heck, take the fact that I even recognize your handle as a compliment, sexconker.
Hehe, sexconker.
I be trollin', y'all be hatin'.
Fucking sad. It's fucking Troll Tuesday and you are giving trolling a bad name. There's more to it than repeating the same lame-ass comeback that didn't work the first time. Trolling is not a sport for douchebag losers, it requires wit, humor, and psychological insight. None of which you appear to posses in measurable quantities. See how I did that? I could have said, 'none of which you have,' but, like your pathetic attempts at trolling, that would have sounded lame, instead of driving home the point that I am far more educated and erudite than you.
I suppose I could teach you, but I don't have the patience for spastic, incompetent, socially backwards losers anymore. Go back to 4chan with the other friendless dorks, m'kay? This here's a place for people who don't have to wear helmets with chin straps and drool cups.
Says the man modded flamebait, who insists on repeating debunked nonsense. I'm not saying what is and isn't art, ass crab, I'm saying the exact opposite. Just because something is digital, does not mean it isn't fine art. Damn, you are fucking dim witted. Does your mommy help you press the right letters on the picture box?
Fuck off, troll. In all the years you've been here, you've added nothing of value to Slashdot. Nobody pays you any attention, your trolling is infantile, and your opinions are merely fetid spurts of verbal diarrhea. You are either deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying, or you've gone full retard and don't know how to get back. Just because you have an obese body, a tiny dick, and like to fuck a fleshlight with a picture of Jar-Jar Binks taped to it does not make you a geek. You don't get to converse with the geeks at the big boy table, you get to hang out with the other helmet headed window licking dorks on the short fucking bus, capiche?
I'm not a pompous fuck for saying I'm better than you, hell, I've shat things better than you.
Now that that's out of the way, let me clarify for anyone stupid enough to believe sexconker's creative interpretation of my thoughts. I don't think the artist makes a god damn difference. Fine art is anything that a large enough group of people consider emotionally meaningful for a long enough period of time. Period. Artist makes no difference, medium makes no difference, skill makes no difference, the only measure of fine art is the total amount of emotional impact it delivers.
Whoever added that tag, the only connection you've got to art are the lead paint chips you ate as a child.
mmmmm lead paint chips :)~
Have you tried them with library paste sauce and a side of crayons? Delicious!
We have trolls in the tags now? How cute. Here's a clue for you, every new art form is not considered fine art by crusty old timers. Then the old timers DIE and times move on and presto! It's fine art. It isn't about the medium in the first place. If I spatter paint on a canvas, it isn't going to be fine art. When Jackson Pollock did it, it was. My 3d models look nice, but they are a craft, not fine art. The guys who designed, oh say, Wall-E? Fine artists by any stretch of the imagination. Get it? It isn't the media, it is the artistic quality that determines whether something is fine art or not.
Whoever added that tag, the only connection you've got to art are the lead paint chips you ate as a child.
So, a normal lens will compress a series of pulses into a shorter series? How, exactly? I didn't realize that normal lenses worked by exciting the atoms in a waveguide with an infrared laser.
The mobile section is actually only half Best Buy, and half Carphone Warehouse. They work on a different bonus structure and different power structure than the rest of the store, which the Mobile Manager reporting directly to a district manager and skipping the General Manager of the store, unlike every other dept.
I have no idea what you think you're talking about, but that is absolutely not true. Mobile is treated just like every other dept in the Best Buy stores. The only that is any different at all is the Magnolia sections, which work off of commission.
Carphone Warehouse is a European company. They announced a merger with Best Buy in May. Your info may be either out of date or country specific.
That's right. Meddling government regulators have never done anything good. These 'crumple zones' are not for our safety. They are actually amplifiers for the Major League Baseball mind control beams. But you sheeple go on purchasing your new cars with your 'crumple zones' and 'better gas mileage' and 'superior handling.' I'll be safe in my classic Ford Pinto.
Thanks for the info. Sheesh. Probably doesn't even have an emotion chip, so it can't even feel gratitude for my help.