Look people, this is NOT a 2A issue, this is a 1A issue. When does censorship stop? Why can't gun plans be published?
What if after some future election it became illegal to publish plans for IUD contra-ceptives without a licence after some person posts plans for a 3D printed one. Then for a research physician to get published in a medical journal he'd need permission from the government. How about that? How is that different?
How would you feel about needing to obtain a goverenemt license to publish anything about crytographic code? Where would that stop? Could you teach your kids how to make a Ceasar cipher, or would you go to jail for that under a national security gag-order.
Well, LAPD is probably the biggest, I'll give you that. But if you follow the news stories, you'd have to conclude that LAPD is also the most corrupt police force in California, or at least in the top 5. It has a history of lieing extensively and getting caught later.
Ummmm.... No, you misunderstand completely. The Google car autonomous mod has never had an accident, and no human has ever intervened when the car was out in traffic. The *only* accidents have been when car jockys have been moving the cars around with the autonomous system disabled. The autonomous system has never been overridden to prevent an accident, because that has never been needed.
As I said before, go collect some data. Your assertion that "automomous cars still have accidents", is, AFIK, only true for automous vehicles on closed test tracks, as in the second DARPA challenge. That incident was a long time ago, in robot years.
Go collect some data. Like the Google cars, for instance. Zero autonomous accidents. Zero. The only accidents they have had is when a human driver is at the controls.
I just dropped my daughter off at the gym. In a 15 minute round-trip drive, I counted 5 Leafs. Nissan isn't trying to stop people from buying their car. Neither is Tesla.
Yes, where is that money going? When I look at the local public schools, I see a very high ratio of highly paid administors to total faculty, much higher than in the school system I attended. What are they doing? Paperwork for the state, I suppose -- it isn't clear -- but they certainly aren't teaching. I've also visited many of the local high schools for various events and have seen their physical plant. Then.... a few weeks ago I attended a meeting at the Santa Clara county education department county offices -- a large, beautiful, well-equipped building with a lovely sculpture and fountain in the spacious atrium. Five minutes in that building had me steaming with anger after seeing the state of the local schools. Why do they have a basket-ball court sized atrium just for show, while the schools have ratty temporary buildings trucked in to deal with crowding?
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First, why are you using a GUI in such a situation?
Robots don't have displays. It's really difficult to get your work done if your monitor keeps skittering away across the lab. Visualization tools for various pieces of robot state are much better than text dumps -- not surprisingly. Display across the WiFi network is a requirement. Also, all the generic basic tools need to run in a headless environment.
But robots aren't the only embedded environment where Linux is popular. Again, with those it is nice to be able to display to a large monitor for development work, even though the device might have a small display of it's own.
Second, X11 is not going away immediately, and no one expects it to. Qt and GTK+ will remain compatible with X11 for some time to come precisely because of this. And you'll still be able to access those remote X applications via XWayland.
And that is what we will no doubt do when the time comes.
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And Wayland remote display is going to happen when, exactly? Is it on the roadmap? I'm asking seriously -- if there is a roadmap, point me to it, I don't follow Wayland devopment outside of the occasional rant-fests on Slashdot like we are having now.
There are certain environments where remote display is the *only* display, so if Wayland doesn't have it, Wayland doesn't go into those environments.
Depends on who you hang out with. My daugher likes math -- as in: took mulivariable calculus at a local university at age 13 "likes math" -- anyway she as a sizeable collection of Rubik's cubes, and many of her math-loving friends have collections of cubes. Some of them have "speed cubes" -- specially made cubes with low friction joints to aid in rapid soving. I have a video of two of her friends have a solving race. One guy was sloving a 7x7 cube, the other guy was trying to solve 10 3x3 cubes in the same abount of time. IIRC, the 7x7 guy got done in about 2 1/2 minutes, in which time the 3x3 guy got through 8.
So anyway, if you're not see cubes around, I guess you just aren't haning around with nerdy enough people.
What I find interesting is that over the years here on Slashdot, when I've posted an unpopular opinion it tends to simply get ignored. But.... unpopular *data*, now that is what brings out the pitchforks and torches. There is nothing that angers people so much as to be confronted with uncomfortable facts.
It is driven by the insurance companies. TechShop has had various policies over the years I've been a member, all driven by the insurance provider. The day the insurance got turned on for TechShop #1, my daughter, (then 7 or 8 or so) and I went in to help demo drywall and so forth to start the shop build out. Later, the minimum age became machine-by-machine, and always with a parent/guardian present. Laser cutters and sewing/surging machines had a minimum age of 12 at one point, and at the same time the Bridgeports had a minimum age of 16. Not sure about other machines. Not sure what it is now -- it tends to change as the insurance carrier thinking evolves -- and insurance is, as you would imagine, a big line item on the expense side of the P&L.
So, remember, we are talking insurance company thinking here, so normal common-sense thinking does not apply. The thinking is driven by statistical tables, recent legal settlement amounts, and the personal gut-check of the lead underwriter's visceral fears. Given all that, I think TechShop has had a reasonable experience with insurance, despite my daughter not being able to get at many of the machines for age reasons.
Unfortuantely, there is no "brain check" that can work -- I used to each one of the safety-and-basic-usage classes (SBU's) for one of the machines. It is designed to make you safe to use the machine, and in my experience age has little to do with how safe a person is. There was one 50 year old mechanical engineer who had obviously been a paper-pushing engineer for 25 years, because during one incident the main thought going through my mind was: "Good God, man, can't you *hear* that is a *very* unhappy machine???", while other people with much less background were safer to be around.
Well, not quite. People who chose a Leaf over a Tesla are looking for an econo-box to comute with. The Tesla is a no-compromise luxury car. The Leaf is an unappologetic economy car. I could afford Tesla, a couple of friends have them and they are nice. But we are looking at a Leaf purely as an econo-box. I'm long past trying to impress people with what I drive.
The real question is how it does at water purification. It should take care of bacteria, no problem. How it does on organisms like giardia, though, is more relevant to a backpacker. Compare the weight/bulk of powdered alcohol to other water purification methods, and you might have a winner.
This seems like a general warrant to me. For civilian aircraft, there are minimum altitudes, and no general expectation of privacy from overhead observation at that distance. But in this case, this is for the purpose of gathering evidence. How is that not a general warrant?
Well,not quite. It is anti-unstabalized-hybrid. In many cases, a single additional cross will stablize a hybrid. Seed companies don't, because it serves as built-in license enforcement. The reason Monsanto has so much trouble with soy beans is that there is no such thing as an unstable hybrid soy bean. With maize, OTOH, this works great, you can create an unstable hybrid and sell that as the seed companies do now, or with a single additonal cross, stabilize the hybrid.
I, personally, have no need to move, having gotten in some time back and now have a house that has gone *up* in value over $800K over the past few years. The housing prices are a problem because it makes it difficult to hire people, because the commute from Castro Valley and other points East is... ummm... unpleasant. Your attitude seems rather parochial and insenstitive, and doesn't really move the ball forward in either clarifying the problem or suggesting a solution.
Well, except that it is very, very hard to start buying real estate in the Bay Area on a junior engineer's salary. In my area, I would not want to live in most of the neighborhoods where you can get something for $800K. Your well-founded admonitions don't align with most peoples' reality.
Using the software helps noone but yourself - it's inherently selfish.
That's an overly-simplistic analysis. Using software has network effects. ('Network' in the social sense, not the move bits from point A to point B sense.)
Simply being a user that uses Libre Office and trades documents with others in that format grows the network of Libre Office users. That is a beneficial network effect. Simply being a user of X-Windows creates a larger pool of X-Windows users and therefore more potential seats for any random X-Windows application, which is a beneficial network effect for X-Windws in general, in that it creates more potential reward for development effort spent on X-Windows applications.
I agree with your other points, especially about the benefits of organized testing and filing clear problem reports. You can't (or shouldn't) ship what you can't test.
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Look people, this is NOT a 2A issue, this is a 1A issue. When does censorship stop? Why can't gun plans be published?
What if after some future election it became illegal to publish plans for IUD contra-ceptives without a licence after some person posts plans for a 3D printed one. Then for a research physician to get published in a medical journal he'd need permission from the government. How about that? How is that different?
How would you feel about needing to obtain a goverenemt license to publish anything about crytographic code? Where would that stop? Could you teach your kids how to make a Ceasar cipher, or would you go to jail for that under a national security gag-order.
He is publishing plans. This is a 1A issue.
Well, LAPD is probably the biggest, I'll give you that. But if you follow the news stories, you'd have to conclude that LAPD is also the most corrupt police force in California, or at least in the top 5. It has a history of lieing extensively and getting caught later.
Ummmm.... No, you misunderstand completely. The Google car autonomous mod has never had an accident, and no human has ever intervened when the car was out in traffic. The *only* accidents have been when car jockys have been moving the cars around with the autonomous system disabled. The autonomous system has never been overridden to prevent an accident, because that has never been needed.
As I said before, go collect some data. Your assertion that "automomous cars still have accidents", is, AFIK, only true for automous vehicles on closed test tracks, as in the second DARPA challenge. That incident was a long time ago, in robot years.
Go collect some data. Like the Google cars, for instance. Zero autonomous accidents. Zero. The only accidents they have had is when a human driver is at the controls.
Google maps puts it at 5.1 miles, with 2 major freeways to cross. Do your kids walk that?
Save your politically correct, knee-jerk, derisive, snark and sarcasm for a discussion where it is on topic.
Absolutely. MakerBot turned evil quite some time back. Bre is Not A Nice Person in many, many ways.
I just dropped my daughter off at the gym. In a 15 minute round-trip drive, I counted 5 Leafs. Nissan isn't trying to stop people from buying their car. Neither is Tesla.
Yes, where is that money going? When I look at the local public schools, I see a very high ratio of highly paid administors to total faculty, much higher than in the school system I attended. What are they doing? Paperwork for the state, I suppose -- it isn't clear -- but they certainly aren't teaching. I've also visited many of the local high schools for various events and have seen their physical plant. Then.... a few weeks ago I attended a meeting at the Santa Clara county education department county offices -- a large, beautiful, well-equipped building with a lovely sculpture and fountain in the spacious atrium. Five minutes in that building had me steaming with anger after seeing the state of the local schools. Why do they have a basket-ball court sized atrium just for show, while the schools have ratty temporary buildings trucked in to deal with crowding?
First, why are you using a GUI in such a situation?
Robots don't have displays. It's really difficult to get your work done if your monitor keeps skittering away across the lab. Visualization tools for various pieces of robot state are much better than text dumps -- not surprisingly. Display across the WiFi network is a requirement. Also, all the generic basic tools need to run in a headless environment.
But robots aren't the only embedded environment where Linux is popular. Again, with those it is nice to be able to display to a large monitor for development work, even though the device might have a small display of it's own.
Second, X11 is not going away immediately, and no one expects it to. Qt and GTK+ will remain compatible with X11 for some time to come precisely because of this. And you'll still be able to access those remote X applications via XWayland.
And that is what we will no doubt do when the time comes.
And Wayland remote display is going to happen when, exactly? Is it on the roadmap? I'm asking seriously -- if there is a roadmap, point me to it, I don't follow Wayland devopment outside of the occasional rant-fests on Slashdot like we are having now.
There are certain environments where remote display is the *only* display, so if Wayland doesn't have it, Wayland doesn't go into those environments.
Depends on who you hang out with. My daugher likes math -- as in: took mulivariable calculus at a local university at age 13 "likes math" -- anyway she as a sizeable collection of Rubik's cubes, and many of her math-loving friends have collections of cubes. Some of them have "speed cubes" -- specially made cubes with low friction joints to aid in rapid soving. I have a video of two of her friends have a solving race. One guy was sloving a 7x7 cube, the other guy was trying to solve 10 3x3 cubes in the same abount of time. IIRC, the 7x7 guy got done in about 2 1/2 minutes, in which time the 3x3 guy got through 8.
So anyway, if you're not see cubes around, I guess you just aren't haning around with nerdy enough people.
What I find interesting is that over the years here on Slashdot, when I've posted an unpopular opinion it tends to simply get ignored. But.... unpopular *data*, now that is what brings out the pitchforks and torches. There is nothing that angers people so much as to be confronted with uncomfortable facts.
Good find. Like I said, the policy is periodically updated, driven by insurance.
It is driven by the insurance companies. TechShop has had various policies over the years I've been a member, all driven by the insurance provider. The day the insurance got turned on for TechShop #1, my daughter, (then 7 or 8 or so) and I went in to help demo drywall and so forth to start the shop build out. Later, the minimum age became machine-by-machine, and always with a parent/guardian present. Laser cutters and sewing/surging machines had a minimum age of 12 at one point, and at the same time the Bridgeports had a minimum age of 16. Not sure about other machines. Not sure what it is now -- it tends to change as the insurance carrier thinking evolves -- and insurance is, as you would imagine, a big line item on the expense side of the P&L.
So, remember, we are talking insurance company thinking here, so normal common-sense thinking does not apply. The thinking is driven by statistical tables, recent legal settlement amounts, and the personal gut-check of the lead underwriter's visceral fears. Given all that, I think TechShop has had a reasonable experience with insurance, despite my daughter not being able to get at many of the machines for age reasons.
Unfortuantely, there is no "brain check" that can work -- I used to each one of the safety-and-basic-usage classes (SBU's) for one of the machines. It is designed to make you safe to use the machine, and in my experience age has little to do with how safe a person is. There was one 50 year old mechanical engineer who had obviously been a paper-pushing engineer for 25 years, because during one incident the main thought going through my mind was: "Good God, man, can't you *hear* that is a *very* unhappy machine???", while other people with much less background were safer to be around.
ummm. really? From the looks of the datestamps on their web pages, it hasn't been touched in years.
Well, not quite. People who chose a Leaf over a Tesla are looking for an econo-box to comute with. The Tesla is a no-compromise luxury car. The Leaf is an unappologetic economy car. I could afford Tesla, a couple of friends have them and they are nice. But we are looking at a Leaf purely as an econo-box. I'm long past trying to impress people with what I drive.
The real question is how it does at water purification. It should take care of bacteria, no problem. How it does on organisms like giardia, though, is more relevant to a backpacker. Compare the weight/bulk of powdered alcohol to other water purification methods, and you might have a winner.
This seems like a general warrant to me. For civilian aircraft, there are minimum altitudes, and no general expectation of privacy from overhead observation at that distance. But in this case, this is for the purpose of gathering evidence. How is that not a general warrant?
Well,not quite. It is anti-unstabalized-hybrid. In many cases, a single additional cross will stablize a hybrid. Seed companies don't, because it serves as built-in license enforcement. The reason Monsanto has so much trouble with soy beans is that there is no such thing as an unstable hybrid soy bean. With maize, OTOH, this works great, you can create an unstable hybrid and sell that as the seed companies do now, or with a single additonal cross, stabilize the hybrid.
I, personally, have no need to move, having gotten in some time back and now have a house that has gone *up* in value over $800K over the past few years. The housing prices are a problem because it makes it difficult to hire people, because the commute from Castro Valley and other points East is... ummm... unpleasant. Your attitude seems rather parochial and insenstitive, and doesn't really move the ball forward in either clarifying the problem or suggesting a solution.
Well, except that it is very, very hard to start buying real estate in the Bay Area on a junior engineer's salary. In my area, I would not want to live in most of the neighborhoods where you can get something for $800K. Your well-founded admonitions don't align with most peoples' reality.
LAPD is notorious for corruption and officer abuse. What is *your* plan to fix that?
No, that is *not* what I said. More users is good because more users results in more development effort.
Using the software helps noone but yourself - it's inherently selfish.
That's an overly-simplistic analysis. Using software has network effects. ('Network' in the social sense, not the move bits from point A to point B sense.)
Simply being a user that uses Libre Office and trades documents with others in that format grows the network of Libre Office users. That is a beneficial network effect. Simply being a user of X-Windows creates a larger pool of X-Windows users and therefore more potential seats for any random X-Windows application, which is a beneficial network effect for X-Windws in general, in that it creates more potential reward for development effort spent on X-Windows applications.
I agree with your other points, especially about the benefits of organized testing and filing clear problem reports. You can't (or shouldn't) ship what you can't test.
Is anyone else thinking this could lead to some interest new craft beers?