You're right, it's not a case of "the cops hate minorities"; it's a case of the cops viewing themselves as soldiers and the rest of us -- white, black, or whatever -- as the enemy. There's a very real problem with hyper-aggressive, militarized police in this country, but BLM obscures it behind a cloud of identity politics.
Debra W. Soh is an expert in neuroscience. (PhD in sexual neuroscience from the University of York.) She wrote the following in defense of Damore:
"Within the field of neuroscience, sex differences between women and men—when it comes to brain structure and function and associated differences in personality and occupational preferences—are understood to be true, because the evidence for them (thousands of studies) is strong. This is not information that’s considered controversial or up for debate; if you tried to argue otherwise, or for purely social influences, you’d be laughed at."
No, Damore NEVER said that women are less likely to succeed in tech than men, less capable, etc. Read the fucking memo yourself before you comment on it; the media have been lying to you about what it says.
But... he never wrote that men are superior to women. He just argued that differences in preferences -- in what careers men tend to find fulfilling and interesting and hence pursue, versus the careers women tend to find fulfilling and interesting -- could explain much of the gender imbalance in software development.
No, that's not his conclusion. He says that men seek out such jobs more than women. Here's the full quote:
Men’s higher drive for status
We always ask why we don't see women in top leadership positions, but we never ask why we
see so many men in these jobs. These positions often require long, stressful hours that may not
be worth it if you want a balanced and fulfilling life.
Status is the primary metric that men are judged on, pushing many men into these higher
paying, less satisfying jobs for the status that they entail. Note, the same forces that lead men
into high pay/high stress jobs in tech and leadership cause men to take undesirable and
dangerous jobs like coal mining, garbage collection, and firefighting, and suffer 93% of
work-related deaths.
"Proceeds to make tons and tons of assumptions and assertions"
The original apparently had links to supporting sources for these assertions. Gizmodo chose to remove those links. I wonder why?
I don't know how accurate in general his assertions of fact are, but when it comes to gender differences in interests -- with men tending to be more "thing"-oriented, and women more people-oriented -- he is on very solid ground. I recommend that you read Scott Alexander's article discussing this:
Escort Wagon's statement above only makes sense if, like many on the Left, you are incapable of distinguishing between "disagrees with me" and "is racist and sexist."
WTF? How in the world do you come to that conclusion? You could just as easily argue that being driven by status makes for a bad leader and that cooperating more makes for a better leader.
I was a junior in high school when my father said he'd buy a TRS-80 if I moved a (literal) ton of coal from a basement room to an outdoors shed. I did, and he did, and I've been programming ever since. Aside from BASIC, I learned Z-80 machine language programming on that machine -- and because I didn't have an assembler, I manually converted my programs to the numeric machine instruction codes and POKE'd these into memory.
... and the parasitic class to expand. Depending on the how generous the UBI is and how onerous the additional tax burden is, they could get a vicious spiral with fewer and fewer people choosing to work. And, as with all redistribution programs, a sizable chunk of wealth will be lost to the overhead of running the program.
Julian Assange is not a U.S. citizen. He does not run WikiLeaks from the U.S. It takes an incredible, overweening arrogance for U.S. officials to assume that every goddamned person in the world, wherever they may be, is subject to Washington's dictates. Imagine if the tables were turned -- say, the Russian government seeking to extradite and arrest an American citizen for acts that violated some Russian law but which occurred thousands of miles outside of Russian borders.
Sure, but even the former requires considerable skill to do well. This attitude that software dev is some sort of low-skill trade that anyone can pick up in a few weeks is, I think, part of the reason why we have so many shitty, infuriatingly buggy corporate websites.
"Try working with somebody who has written that they believe they're inherently - genetically, evolutionarily - superior to you, and see how that sits."
I've worked with feminists before. As long as we stick to technical topics, everything is copacetic.
The female equivalent of Larry Garfield's particular sexual interests would be a woman who was a dominatrix. Would you be calling it "tolerating intolerance" to allow a dominatrix to be a Drupal contributor? Would you insist that if a female contributor were found to be a dominatrix, she must be forced out of the project? Would you justify it by telling her, "Sorry for not tolerating misandry"?
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Please read the actual memo before commenting on it. The media have persistently lied about what the memo says.
You're right, it's not a case of "the cops hate minorities"; it's a case of the cops viewing themselves as soldiers and the rest of us -- white, black, or whatever -- as the enemy. There's a very real problem with hyper-aggressive, militarized police in this country, but BLM obscures it behind a cloud of identity politics.
"an internal memo... claiming women are biologically less suited than men to be engineers."
Goddamnit, have you people no shame whatsoever? THE MEMO DOES NOT SAY THIS. Why do you keep on repeating this lie?
Debra W. Soh is an expert in neuroscience. (PhD in sexual neuroscience from the University of York.) She wrote the following in defense of Damore:
"Within the field of neuroscience, sex differences between women and men—when it comes to brain structure and function and associated differences in personality and occupational preferences—are understood to be true, because the evidence for them (thousands of studies) is strong. This is not information that’s considered controversial or up for debate; if you tried to argue otherwise, or for purely social influences, you’d be laughed at."
The Google Memo: Four Scientists Respond
No, Damore NEVER said that women are less likely to succeed in tech than men, less capable, etc. Read the fucking memo yourself before you comment on it; the media have been lying to you about what it says.
Maybe you need to read the actual contents of the memo before offering an opinion. Damore NEVER says that women are inferior to men as programmers.
But... he never wrote that men are superior to women. He just argued that differences in preferences -- in what careers men tend to find fulfilling and interesting and hence pursue, versus the careers women tend to find fulfilling and interesting -- could explain much of the gender imbalance in software development.
No, that's not his conclusion. He says that men seek out such jobs more than women. Here's the full quote:
"Proceeds to make tons and tons of assumptions and assertions"
The original apparently had links to supporting sources for these assertions. Gizmodo chose to remove those links. I wonder why?
I don't know how accurate in general his assertions of fact are, but when it comes to gender differences in interests -- with men tending to be more "thing"-oriented, and women more people-oriented -- he is on very solid ground. I recommend that you read Scott Alexander's article discussing this:
Gender Imbalances Are Mostly Not Due to Offensive Attitudes.
Pay particular attention to section II where he discusses Richard Lippa's research.
Escort Wagon's statement above only makes sense if, like many on the Left, you are incapable of distinguishing between "disagrees with me" and "is racist and sexist."
WTF? How in the world do you come to that conclusion? You could just as easily argue that being driven by status makes for a bad leader and that cooperating more makes for a better leader.
Scott Alexander, a center-left blogger, also argues against misguided attempts at gender balancing:
Gender Imbalances Are Mostly Not Due to Offensive Attitudes
Where can I find the full text *with* links?
I was a junior in high school when my father said he'd buy a TRS-80 if I moved a (literal) ton of coal from a basement room to an outdoors shed. I did, and he did, and I've been programming ever since. Aside from BASIC, I learned Z-80 machine language programming on that machine -- and because I didn't have an assembler, I manually converted my programs to the numeric machine instruction codes and POKE'd these into memory.
... and the parasitic class to expand. Depending on the how generous the UBI is and how onerous the additional tax burden is, they could get a vicious spiral with fewer and fewer people choosing to work. And, as with all redistribution programs, a sizable chunk of wealth will be lost to the overhead of running the program.
Julian Assange is not a U.S. citizen. He does not run WikiLeaks from the U.S. It takes an incredible, overweening arrogance for U.S. officials to assume that every goddamned person in the world, wherever they may be, is subject to Washington's dictates. Imagine if the tables were turned -- say, the Russian government seeking to extradite and arrest an American citizen for acts that violated some Russian law but which occurred thousands of miles outside of Russian borders.
"and voted for Hillary"
Ah. That would explain the hostility to free markets.
Myself, I I don't believe in using men with guns to suppress the competition.
Sure, but even the former requires considerable skill to do well. This attitude that software dev is some sort of low-skill trade that anyone can pick up in a few weeks is, I think, part of the reason why we have so many shitty, infuriatingly buggy corporate websites.
Why, were they making you look bad by working harder and smarter than you?
Are you kidding? Where I live the freeways are lined with billboards from companies trying to recruit software developers.
Since when is software development NOT a complex, specialized job requiring a high level of skill?
Double standard.
"Try working with somebody who has written that they believe they're inherently - genetically, evolutionarily - superior to you, and see how that sits."
I've worked with feminists before. As long as we stick to technical topics, everything is copacetic.
The female equivalent of Larry Garfield's particular sexual interests would be a woman who was a dominatrix. Would you be calling it "tolerating intolerance" to allow a dominatrix to be a Drupal contributor? Would you insist that if a female contributor were found to be a dominatrix, she must be forced out of the project? Would you justify it by telling her, "Sorry for not tolerating misandry"?
"Only criminals need to hide their spending activity."
So you agree that the CIA, NSA, etc. are criminal organizations?