There is no doubt there is something fairly JBOSSy going on here. The strangest MS skewed postings get modded to +5 with no appearent basis for doing so, other than they say no no MS is good. Then you look at the individual posting history and you find the same words over and over again. Nothing insightful, nothing well argued only the usual claim about attempting to balance/.s bias (always worth + or 2 as far as I can see).
What seems to be lost in all this is that 99% of +5 rated comments are from people with a long and wide range of IT (and other) experience.
The fact that many of them are arriving at similar conclusions (i.e. technically a lot of what comes out of Redmond is sucky, illegal and unethical) is just confirmation that these are not just the thoughts of a pack of ill-informed zealots or script kiddies.
Note to self, mod twitter up for his/her reasoned and well written comments, which by the way are consistent with many people's experience (other than the odd AC).
Compare your links (regarding crime committed with handguns) with your original statement:
Since the absolute gun ban in the mid 90's in Britain, the burglary rate has shot up. Go check it out.
You are talking about different things. You don't need to write a paper, but maybe try reading an academic paper about the subject of crime as it pertains to the UK rather than quoting from "gun.org" (do you think there might be some bias there?) who are misrepresenting a news article.
Now you are trolling. But here goes, IBM gets most of its revenues from services. It is not alone. This is a model of doing business that works for millions of companies round the world. OSS supports that model. Many (some would say most) service organisations that use OSS to support their services also contribute in some way to the betterment of those products.
See, it's simple, it's all about good service - unlike certain commercial telescope manufacturers I could mention.
Just because this particular OSS "business" is failing doesn't impunge on whole model. Many people do very well selling services based on OSS producats *and* contributing to the projects they use.
Strangely, I don't see many posts decrying the "proprietory" business model every time a company fails (which a large number do).
I suggest you actually take an Economics 101 paper some day, the results may surprise you.
Well, this seems like a case of picking the worst agruments against nuclear power and making a story. As you say it is a nonsense arguement.
That does not mean there are not some sensible points to be made against nuclear power. Cherenoble did in fact affect most of northern and western europe. The cost of disposing of waste is astronomical. The cost of decommisioning nuclear power plants is even worse - so bad that the UK governement in the 1980's had to abandon their plan to privatise the nuclear generation industry.
What is ridiculous is that in many countries the organisations who sell power also have a remit to educate their customers on power conservation! The private markets set up in the 80s and 90s have no incentive whatsoever to encourage conservation.
I suspect that if governments were to spend as much on supporting power conserving initiatives (cladding houses, for example) they would save far more than the cost of building new generating capacity.
"the 2002 British Crime Survey - which asks people for their first-hand experiences of crime - tells a different story. This claims that crime rates have fallen by 2 per cent over the past year, with the chances of being a victim of crime now standing at its lowest since the survey began in 1981.
"Violent crime is only a very small proportion of overall crime in the UK but it is the type of crime that people fear most."
My understanding is that whilst the Federal Govt. may have rejected Kyoto there is a group of individual states that have signed up for it (probably those namby pamby East Coast liberal ones). Equally, many parts of the USA are far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to things like recycling and other "think locally" activities.
Just shows, again, how dangerous it is for us forners to generalise about the USA.
Ha ha, very funny. No really. Somewhere in this you seem to have missed out in the discussions aroung patenting business processes. This is happening in the US and many other countries, including Australia and New Zealand.
Rubbish, stick 4 poeple round a table for an evening with a bottle of wine or 4 and ideas will flow. Ideas really are that cheap. Implementing ideas, now that's hard, so show me an idea that has been implemented and maybe I'll give you a patent. Show me an idea and ask for a patent and maybe I'll give you a kick in the arse (ass)...Unfortunately in many countries we seem not to require the hard bit to be done.
A troll, I know but some one gave youu a point so here's a reply. The reason I have a Linux desktop at home and not a DVD player is that thanks to libdeccs I can play any DVD I have purchased or loaned on whatever hardware I deem suits my purpose.
Sorry do disappoint, but I'm not wanting to copy or steal anything. Seems to me this alone will drive people to Linux desktops.
Two +5 comments repeating themselves - talk about karma whores:-)
Responding to this particular point I find installing hardware in Windows is anything but intuitive. In fact, unless you are careful, you will end up with a bogus crappy MS default driver for any new hardware you install.
I also have some specific gripes with Linux (mainly Mandrake) distribs - but they are usually very similar to my Windows gripes. You get to a point in the install where you are left in a recursive nightmare of Wizards and invalid options. As for software installs, I just don'rt see that the GUI Linux tools are any better or worse than the Windows equivalents.
So, please, spare us the Windows comparisons -they simply don't hold water.
Where the Grokdocs project will be great, I think, is as a central repository for all those little tricks and tips that all computer users need, whatever their OS and ditribution.
Open Source projects seem to have a lot of trouble with user interface design
Whilst I understand the sentiments behind this may experience is that nearly all projects "under development" share this issue. In other words, not a whole lot of effort goes into UI until the fundamental technical issues are resolved.
In many ways this makes sense, why put a whole lot of effort into something that will only keep breaking during the main part of the build.
Of course, this focus needs to change at the stage the project is approaching production readiness - and often doesn't. But I certainly would not get hung up on UI during a development.
I'm more than familiar with those links. The fact is NZ would love one of these even if this is the price to be paid.
You may also not be aware of this application causing a bit of a world wide stir.
If you had browsed the MED site a bit further you would have found this statement:
"IPONZ, when deciding whether or not to grant a patent, must give applicants the benefit of the doubt, and can only refuse to grant a patent if it is "practically certain" that a court would find the patent invalid. As a result patents which might be likely (but not almost certain) to be held invalid will be granted. The uncertainties and expense of challenging the validity of a patent mean that few patents are ever challenged. If patents are granted that the courts would find to be invalid, the rights enjoyed patent owners are greater than they are entitled to. These greater rights have the potential to restrict competition and raise prices to consumers, and may restrict the activities of local businesses that lack the resources to challenge the validity of the patent"
In summary, cheap and cheerful to get a patenthere and start setting a world precident/portfolia - pain in the arse and expensive to challenge it once granted.
4) Patents CANNOT be bought and defended by "small" people. Patents cost about 40,000 EUROS a pop and this is not money for the "small" company. This is money for the large company.
Except in New Zealand where registration ony costs a few hundred bucks and the patent office prefers to let the courts decide what is a valid patent, or not. Makes us a lovely target for people wanting to lauch their patent portfolio. Good, eh?
Yes, but the point is that if a cat rolled 40 degrees it would be over. I would always much rather take a mono hulled sailing boat to sea as with a deap heavy keel they are (nearly) always going to self right. Always going to get a smoother ride as well.
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The guy should at least give XP a shot (hell, even 2000)
or maybe not.
There is no doubt there is something fairly JBOSSy going on here. The strangest MS skewed postings get modded to +5 with no appearent basis for doing so, other than they say no no MS is good. Then you look at the individual posting history and you find the same words over and over again. Nothing insightful, nothing well argued only the usual claim about attempting to balance /.s bias (always worth + or 2 as far as I can see).
What seems to be lost in all this is that 99% of +5 rated comments are from people with a long and wide range of IT (and other) experience.
The fact that many of them are arriving at similar conclusions (i.e. technically a lot of what comes out of Redmond is sucky, illegal and unethical) is just confirmation that these are not just the thoughts of a pack of ill-informed zealots or script kiddies.
Note to self, mod twitter up for his/her reasoned and well written comments, which by the way are consistent with many people's experience (other than the odd AC).
Compare your links (regarding crime committed with handguns) with your original statement:
Since the absolute gun ban in the mid 90's in Britain, the burglary rate has shot up. Go check it out.
You are talking about different things. You don't need to write a paper, but maybe try reading an academic paper about the subject of crime as it pertains to the UK rather than quoting from "gun.org" (do you think there might be some bias there?) who are misrepresenting a news article.
Now you are trolling. But here goes, IBM gets most of its revenues from services. It is not alone. This is a model of doing business that works for millions of companies round the world. OSS supports that model. Many (some would say most) service organisations that use OSS to support their services also contribute in some way to the betterment of those products.
See, it's simple, it's all about good service - unlike certain commercial telescope manufacturers I could mention.
Glad to hear you are so knowledgeable about economics - try applying that knowledge.
Just because this particular OSS "business" is failing doesn't impunge on whole model. Many people do very well selling services based on OSS producats *and* contributing to the projects they use.
Strangely, I don't see many posts decrying the "proprietory" business model every time a company fails (which a large number do).
I suggest you actually take an Economics 101 paper some day, the results may surprise you.
Well, this seems like a case of picking the worst agruments against nuclear power and making a story. As you say it is a nonsense arguement.
That does not mean there are not some sensible points to be made against nuclear power. Cherenoble did in fact affect most of northern and western europe. The cost of disposing of waste is astronomical. The cost of decommisioning nuclear power plants is even worse - so bad that the UK governement in the 1980's had to abandon their plan to privatise the nuclear generation industry.
What is ridiculous is that in many countries the organisations who sell power also have a remit to educate their customers on power conservation! The private markets set up in the 80s and 90s have no incentive whatsoever to encourage conservation.
I suspect that if governments were to spend as much on supporting power conserving initiatives (cladding houses, for example) they would save far more than the cost of building new generating capacity.
I just did.
It seems you are quite wrong.
Crime in the UK has never been linked to personal gun ownership which has always been miniscule in any case.
Want another quote?
"the 2002 British Crime Survey - which asks people for their first-hand experiences of crime - tells a different story. This claims that crime rates have fallen by 2 per cent over the past year, with the chances of being a victim of crime now standing at its lowest since the survey began in 1981.
"Violent crime is only a very small proportion of overall crime in the UK but it is the type of crime that people fear most."
My understanding is that whilst the Federal Govt. may have rejected Kyoto there is a group of individual states that have signed up for it (probably those namby pamby East Coast liberal ones). Equally, many parts of the USA are far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to things like recycling and other "think locally" activities.
Just shows, again, how dangerous it is for us forners to generalise about the USA.
even before they thought of it:
Follow the links and strengthen the case. It's been a while.
I'm betting on Microsoft, maybe through Baystar but most likely directly.
Ha ha, very funny. No really. Somewhere in this you seem to have missed out in the discussions aroung patenting business processes. This is happening in the US and many other countries, including Australia and New Zealand.
After seeing these films, I'm going to be very keen indeed to see what these Kiwis can come up with next!
Shrek?
Rubbish, stick 4 poeple round a table for an evening with a bottle of wine or 4 and ideas will flow. Ideas really are that cheap. Implementing ideas, now that's hard, so show me an idea that has been implemented and maybe I'll give you a patent. Show me an idea and ask for a patent and maybe I'll give you a kick in the arse (ass)...Unfortunately in many countries we seem not to require the hard bit to be done.
I find it "+5 Interesting" that people are still kidding themselves re: Java.
Properly engineered Java applications run smoothly
Ahh, that's it. Properly implemented, Communism can't fail either.
A troll, I know but some one gave youu a point so here's a reply. The reason I have a Linux desktop at home and not a DVD player is that thanks to libdeccs I can play any DVD I have purchased or loaned on whatever hardware I deem suits my purpose.
Sorry do disappoint, but I'm not wanting to copy or steal anything. Seems to me this alone will drive people to Linux desktops.
...or hold it on a Saturday. That's what happens in NZ and turnout is generally around 85%. Registration is mandatory, voting is not.
Two +5 comments repeating themselves - talk about karma whores :-)
Responding to this particular point I find installing hardware in Windows is anything but intuitive. In fact, unless you are careful, you will end up with a bogus crappy MS default driver for any new hardware you install.
I also have some specific gripes with Linux (mainly Mandrake) distribs - but they are usually very similar to my Windows gripes. You get to a point in the install where you are left in a recursive nightmare of Wizards and invalid options. As for software installs, I just don'rt see that the GUI Linux tools are any better or worse than the Windows equivalents.
So, please, spare us the Windows comparisons -they simply don't hold water.
Where the Grokdocs project will be great, I think, is as a central repository for all those little tricks and tips that all computer users need, whatever their OS and ditribution.
The golden rule -
In English a double negative makes a positive. This is not the case in all languages.
However, there is no language in which a double positive makes a negative.
YEAH, RIGHT....
Open Source projects seem to have a lot of trouble with user interface design
Whilst I understand the sentiments behind this may experience is that nearly all projects "under development" share this issue. In other words, not a whole lot of effort goes into UI until the fundamental technical issues are resolved.
In many ways this makes sense, why put a whole lot of effort into something that will only keep breaking during the main part of the build.
Of course, this focus needs to change at the stage the project is approaching production readiness - and often doesn't. But I certainly would not get hung up on UI during a development.
I'm more than familiar with those links. The fact is NZ would love one of these even if this is the price to be paid.
You may also not be aware of this application causing a bit of a world wide stir.
If you had browsed the MED site a bit further you would have found this statement:
"IPONZ, when deciding whether or not to grant a patent, must give applicants the benefit of the doubt, and can only refuse to grant a patent if it is "practically certain" that a court would find the patent invalid. As a result patents which might be likely (but not almost certain) to be held invalid will be granted. The uncertainties and expense of challenging the validity of a patent mean that few patents are ever challenged. If patents are granted that the courts would find to be invalid, the rights enjoyed patent owners are greater than they are entitled to. These greater rights have the potential to restrict competition and raise prices to consumers, and may restrict the activities of local businesses that lack the resources to challenge the validity of the patent"
In summary, cheap and cheerful to get a patenthere and start setting a world precident/portfolia - pain in the arse and expensive to challenge it once granted.
Since the WTO and international agreements on IP law.
4) Patents CANNOT be bought and defended by "small" people. Patents cost about 40,000 EUROS a pop and this is not money for the "small" company. This is money for the large company.
Except in New Zealand where registration ony costs a few hundred bucks and the patent office prefers to let the courts decide what is a valid patent, or not. Makes us a lovely target for people wanting to lauch their patent portfolio. Good, eh?
Yes, but the point is that if a cat rolled 40 degrees it would be over. I would always much rather take a mono hulled sailing boat to sea as with a deap heavy keel they are (nearly) always going to self right. Always going to get a smoother ride as well.
So, is it like other dual hulled speed boats, crap in big swells?