Did you read the entire article? The whole thing covers 4 pages. I fail to see how you have arrived at the conclusion you did. If you have a look at world trade statistices from 1836 through to about 1932 you will see exactly what the impact of protectionism on world living standards was. I don't think it would be wrong to use the word "devastating" and to conclude is was a major factor in the rise of authoritarianism in Europe.
Of course, you might have to read a bit more widely to reach that understanding.
Ok. Their main industry is still agriculture, not IT, not cars, not industry. There main markets for agriculture would be Japan, USA & Europe - if those countries did not subsidize and dump their own produce to hell. Without world markets for this produce they are forced to build up capacity in other industries that are "free". I do expand on this in the link to my long boring journal entry which includes some links to the affects reaction of Congress to the 1929 bust.
Finally I would dispute "MUCH" and I would also say that you must be doing pretty badly if you think India and China are "doing great".
I would hate to see Democrats legislate this to hell. IMHO overlegislation will solve 1 problem but cause another...
Couldn't agree more. The whole "outsourcing to India" debate is a straw man. Protectionist legislation has a history, and it's not pretty.
The real issue is that the US economy has been in decline for a number of years, particularly in the overheated IT sector. This seems to be changing now but that does not seem to stop otherwise intelligent/.ters making incredibly xenophibic and poorly researched statements about overseas races.
A very nice example. I guess I'm saying that having read both ERS' articles I came away thinking GNU/Linux and associated FOSS products have totally unusable UIs (and are by implication "not yet ready for the desktop", blah blah). This, in my experience and observation of non GNU/Linux users using that OS, is clearly overstating the case.
Distributions obviously vary and therefore YMMV too.
I appreciate ERS is trying to raise the bar on UI design which is good, but I do think his comments are extreme. I see the opposite to you, lots of users at work and at home, happily using GNU/Linux desktops and some rather well written and designed end user applications.
So to tar all OSS with the same brush seems pointless and counter productive.
Respsonding to a comment currently rated by/. readers at +5 which points out how fast MS fixed a problem with a response that complains the world is unfair to MS. And to cap it all you get rewarded with a +5. Oh the bias. Bloody Linux zealots.
Sony NZ managing director Michael Glading said he was totally opposed to the move, which he believed would "open the floodgates" to unrestricted piracy.
This would be the same Sony NZ who have been selling MP3 players in New Zealand for many years now. How on earth did they expect their clients to find anything to play on these devices without breaking the law? I'd like to hear them give an answer to that.
For once, this really is "real news". It removes the case from "David protecting his precious IP from Goliath" to MS trying, in their normal trustworthy way, to subvert Linux.
SCO has confirmed the memo is for real. If you look at the contract between S2 and SCO you can see that S2 was hired to:
advise SCO as to any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction;
And that is just a small part of the contract which is very wide ranging.
To suggest that this guy didn't know what was going on with the financing deals is just ludicrous...Give me a break.
So, this is important, it confirms what people suspected and frankly, it changes the entire nature of the case and SCOs accusations.
It's ok, you can set them horses free now. SCO says it is a legit memo but the guy they hired to:
"advise SCO as to any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction" (according to an SEC filing)...knew nothing about any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction.
Always reverse the situation before you guys go foaming at the mouth!
"Interesting" my arse.
Right. So we should just ignore the fact that MS and SCO have consistently denied any connection. Assuming the email is true, would your morals allow us at the very least to call them *liars* and also to humbly suggest to our goverments that they have no business doing business with companies with such a duplicitous track record?
SCO has said they are protecting their IP, end of story. We are maybe finding out that this is not the case but MS are using SCO as a front to discredit their opposition.
Sorry, I find plenty to legitimately criticise here.
Could be, but maybe it's also because there is shit load of effort required to do anything on more than a marginal scale. Not the case with computer voting.
Mind you, I had a friend whose dad was a lorry (truck) driver who claimed he voted on multiple occassions in the 1979 UK election. Given each constituency maintains its own rolls this is not surprising. Here in NZ a central roll is maintained making that approach fraught with greater risk of being caught.
This could be interesting. One of the states using "new equipment" mentioned in the article I linked to previously is Georgia.
According to CNN's exit poll for Georgia Kerry should have a lead over Edwards of more than 6.5% - an amount usually considered outside the statistical margin of error.
However, the result coming in reverses that trend with Edward polling at 46% and Kerry at 43%.
That is a whopping 9.5% margine of error in the exit poll! Given these polls are taken *after* your vote has been cast I conclude that:
1. The citizens of Georgia are not to be trusted (Dems anyway) or 2. Something Florida like is happening.
You'll remember the Florida exit polls were probably correct given the number of people who *thought* they'd voted for Gore but ended up voting for some religious maniac.
Let's see what the final score turns out as about 38% of precincts are reporting at this point in time (a pretty good sample - I think).
According to this article on The Guardian there are already questions about certain e-elections. The problem, as I see it, is that allegations like these can be made but it is impossible to refute them. Once the integrity of the process comes into serious question public confidence and participation can be expected to plummet.
All developers miss the point in my experience. However, I think ER is shooting off at a straw man applying this solely to the OSS community.
My recent experience with Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 on two computers were an exemplorary experience in point and click installs. DVD Player, digital camera, modem, video card office network, printer, you name it it all seemed to go. Email, office tools spell checker (non-US non-German) works.
I am sure I could have gotten into trouble if something had not been recognised or I hit the wrong button or was trying to get a printer server running. In that case I would have done what I used to do when Windows stuffed up - asked an expert.
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Did you read the entire article? The whole thing covers 4 pages. I fail to see how you have arrived at the conclusion you did. If you have a look at world trade statistices from 1836 through to about 1932 you will see exactly what the impact of protectionism on world living standards was. I don't think it would be wrong to use the word "devastating" and to conclude is was a major factor in the rise of authoritarianism in Europe.
Of course, you might have to read a bit more widely to reach that understanding.
Ok. Their main industry is still agriculture, not IT, not cars, not industry. There main markets for agriculture would be Japan, USA & Europe - if those countries did not subsidize and dump their own produce to hell. Without world markets for this produce they are forced to build up capacity in other industries that are "free". I do expand on this in the link to my long boring journal entry which includes some links to the affects reaction of Congress to the 1929 bust.
Finally I would dispute "MUCH" and I would also say that you must be doing pretty badly if you think India and China are "doing great".
If you don't like my analysis, here's another view.
I would hate to see Democrats legislate this to hell. IMHO overlegislation will solve 1 problem but cause another...
/.ters making incredibly xenophibic and poorly researched statements about overseas races.
Couldn't agree more. The whole "outsourcing to India" debate is a straw man. Protectionist legislation has a history, and it's not pretty.
The real issue is that the US economy has been in decline for a number of years, particularly in the overheated IT sector. This seems to be changing now but that does not seem to stop otherwise intelligent
Off my hobby horse.
"Would you like to mount /dev/cdrom?"
A very nice example. I guess I'm saying that having read both ERS' articles I came away thinking GNU/Linux and associated FOSS products have totally unusable UIs (and are by implication "not yet ready for the desktop", blah blah). This, in my experience and observation of non GNU/Linux users using that OS, is clearly overstating the case.
Distributions obviously vary and therefore YMMV too.
I appreciate ERS is trying to raise the bar on UI design which is good, but I do think his comments are extreme. I see the opposite to you, lots of users at work and at home, happily using GNU/Linux desktops and some rather well written and designed end user applications.
So to tar all OSS with the same brush seems pointless and counter productive.
The software titan also has said that better search technology will be a big part of the next version of its dominant Windows operating system
Oh come on, not again. What happened to "three strikes". Can we not just hurry up sling those guys in gaol, nothing else seems to work?
Real commitment would be to OS their gazzilion software patents. Until then, barge pole treatment is more in order.
Mmmm "5 Insightful"?
/. readers at +5 which points out how fast MS fixed a problem with a response that complains the world is unfair to MS. And to cap it all you get rewarded with a +5. Oh the bias. Bloody Linux zealots.
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C'mon Bill, you don't need this subversive PR, tell us what you really think.
Microsoft has really been acting a lot nicer towards FOSS folks about security lapses.
Nice MS, yes, so nice.
OT but whilst you're at Internet NZ how about getting them to stump up some cash to help ITANZ oppose the Amazon patent?
Sony NZ managing director Michael Glading said he was totally opposed to the move, which he believed would "open the floodgates" to unrestricted piracy.
This would be the same Sony NZ who have been selling MP3 players in New Zealand for many years now. How on earth did they expect their clients to find anything to play on these devices without breaking the law? I'd like to hear them give an answer to that.
as Ransom Love once said...
I wonder where this will end?
I can just see the student riots on Paris in support of MS. Yeah Right!
I'd be buying up shares in Mandrake faster than you can catch a virus if MS pulled out of Europe.
Indeed. When she announced (a while back) that she had this new role one of the conditions was that she is able to devote time to the site.
For once, this really is "real news". It removes the case from "David protecting his precious IP from Goliath" to MS trying, in their normal trustworthy way, to subvert Linux.
SCO has confirmed the memo is for real. If you look at the contract between S2 and SCO you can see that S2 was hired to:
advise SCO as to any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction;
And that is just a small part of the contract which is very wide ranging.
To suggest that this guy didn't know what was going on with the financing deals is just ludicrous...Give me a break.
So, this is important, it confirms what people suspected and frankly, it changes the entire nature of the case and SCOs accusations.
oh, come off it, all you need to do is an apt-get and Mandrake 10 has it bundled as a default.
It's ok, you can set them horses free now. SCO says it is a legit memo but the guy they hired to:
...knew nothing about any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction.
"advise SCO as to any potential financings, either debt or equity, and assist SCO in arranging a customary revolving credit agreement or other financing in connection with any Transaction" (according to an SEC filing)
So that's ok, they're off the hook.
Always reverse the situation before you guys go foaming at the mouth!
"Interesting" my arse.
Right. So we should just ignore the fact that MS and SCO have consistently denied any connection. Assuming the email is true, would your morals allow us at the very least to call them *liars* and also to humbly suggest to our goverments that they have no business doing business with companies with such a duplicitous track record?
SCO has said they are protecting their IP, end of story. We are maybe finding out that this is not the case but MS are using SCO as a front to discredit their opposition.
Sorry, I find plenty to legitimately criticise here.
and outright lie....
:)
*And of course, if they don't, I'm going to ignore it and hope no one notices
Seems my parent is being made redundant (ok quite wrong) by events...
Could be, but maybe it's also because there is shit load of effort required to do anything on more than a marginal scale. Not the case with computer voting.
Mind you, I had a friend whose dad was a lorry (truck) driver who claimed he voted on multiple occassions in the 1979 UK election. Given each constituency maintains its own rolls this is not surprising. Here in NZ a central roll is maintained making that approach fraught with greater risk of being caught.
Slashdot: where racism against Indians is OK...
You noticed that too, can I sign you up?
This could be interesting. One of the states using "new equipment" mentioned in the article I linked to previously is Georgia.
According to CNN's exit poll for Georgia Kerry should have a lead over Edwards of more than 6.5% - an amount usually considered outside the statistical margin of error.
However, the result coming in reverses that trend with Edward polling at 46% and Kerry at 43%.
That is a whopping 9.5% margine of error in the exit poll! Given these polls are taken *after* your vote has been cast I conclude that:
1. The citizens of Georgia are not to be trusted (Dems anyway)
or
2. Something Florida like is happening.
You'll remember the Florida exit polls were probably correct given the number of people who *thought* they'd voted for Gore but ended up voting for some religious maniac.
Let's see what the final score turns out as about 38% of precincts are reporting at this point in time (a pretty good sample - I think).
According to this article on The Guardian there are already questions about certain e-elections. The problem, as I see it, is that allegations like these can be made but it is impossible to refute them. Once the integrity of the process comes into serious question public confidence and participation can be expected to plummet.
All developers miss the point in my experience. However, I think ER is shooting off at a straw man applying this solely to the OSS community.
My recent experience with Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 on two computers were an exemplorary experience in point and click installs. DVD Player, digital camera, modem, video card office network, printer, you name it it all seemed to go. Email, office tools spell checker (non-US non-German) works.
I am sure I could have gotten into trouble if something had not been recognised or I hit the wrong button or was trying to get a printer server running. In that case I would have done what I used to do when Windows stuffed up - asked an expert.