if my house got burgled and someone posted an advert for the break-in on the internet, I'd be super-pissed at it, but I couldn't do a single thing about it within the law. I'd have to live with that, even if I didn't like it.
My house was burgled, I found my guitar in a pawn shop. On calling the police, I was told that if I was even going to get it back I would have to pay Cash-Converters what they paid for it - they bought it in good faith (from some guy who can't even play a guitar and had dodgy i.d.). I am expected, in this case, to allow for the company not taking the presumption that anyone entering their store is a criminal. I can manage this, but I want that extended to being a uniform way of looking at the public. Not just when it suits the companies sponsoring political parties.
What a bunch of impotent whiners. Here we are, the hotshot dickheads making the new economy and we're letting the media and big business label us all criminals.
I recommend we stop dealing with anyone who wants to take this tact and work exclusively in the areas which will allow us to grow as humans and be recognised for the miraculous work we're doing.
Don't ever be suckered into sharing an air conditioner with the accounts girls next door. Eventually they stop talking about thermal underwear and go to management with stories of bad lungs and crap like that. Complete control of your server room is the only way to go.
The law is the law, we cannot pick and choose which laws apply to us and which don't. Anyone who breaks the law is a criminal. No need to look at the situation involved, most people in western society are prepared to take you for a criminal should they hear that you regularly break the law. Now, bring on laws which are impossible to keep. Legislate thick and fast so the punters don't even know what's hitting them. With the right mix you can make everyone a criminal. The laws will mean less and the punters will start to ignore any laws that get in the way. Now we've got a good proportion of society who are becoming serious criminals. Tell everyone that they need you to protect them from all the criminals. Increase your powers and make more laws to ensure that protection.
loop
A Polish Catholic preist once said (something like) "When they came for the Jews, I didn't want to cause any trouble so I kept my mouth shut. When they came for the blacks, It still wasn't my fight so again I said nothing. When they cane for the Gays, and other undesirables, I figured that speaking up now was a bit ridiculous since I'd said nothing yet. When they came for me, there wasn't actually anyone left to speak up for me."
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>>Total I think there is like 12 computer geeks, about half of that which are morons.
Having never met the six people you are refering to, I need to ask you - Are they morons because their personal priorities don't match up to what you judge as good and propper? If so, mayby you'd better go back up to the top of the page and start again.
If we, as a programming community, dry up the source of windows programmers, it will force up the price on the w*nkers who have learned only M$ and they'll wind up to be exposed as the frauds (the ones who are frauds - they must know who they are.) they are.
Meanwhile, IT managers will begin to understand that they need to move to non M$ platforms, or face getting left behind with outdated software and platforms.
That's not in any way trying to suggest that I actually know what I'm talking about or have thought the idea through at all.
Anyone who could be bothered helping with this service or providing information would be appreciated.
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"While laws will be required"!!!!! Give me a break - what if we put that kind of energy into educating the net community and the greater community so even more laws won't be required. Who is it that says "The more corrupt the state, the more laws it has" or words to that effect?
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This is obviosly flame bait! Who the hell gave it a 4 interesting? Do I have to read every pedantic little troll on this site now? - or are we trying to/. hotmail today?
Oh, and a big "HI!" to the ASIO computers who now have a general warrant to monitor all ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS in Australia... and of course the ESCHELON ones who pretty much cover it globally.
Telstra have cable access for $60 a month. It'll probably be cheaper next financial year, That is if you live within a (reasonable) distance from a data station.
Perhaps we should create the new system and have it competing with the current system. If artists and record companys can control their product then they will endorse the new system and all the little robots out there will be brainwashed into using it - eventually leading to mp3's (in it's current position) extinction.
Oh, God! Did anyone else see that thing on a police state being created slowly so the subjects wouldn't have any experience to relate it to? I am almost daily seeing a chance to link to it.
Being in too much of a hurry to read the already posted comments, I will now sit and stare blankly at the screen until I formulate something to say. I do feel strongly about this one....
Real networks has something to gain out of this. As US law works at the moment, certain properties must be defended to remain in the owner's "legal possesion". This costs them money. They are built on being uncopyable and a secure medium to transmit AV over the net. Most of their job would be done for them if they could send the cops after anyone that cracked their code - or saw a cracked version of it, perhaps. Same income, great established name, no overheads, who could blame them for giving it a go - except it may come to be.
I'm gonna set up a corperate watchdog site, based in Australia but working globally and am interested in hearing from anyone who might like to get involved.
I've been buying Metallica stuff since 1986. I was attracted by the anti-establishment - we're gonna do it our way and damned if we don't wind up making the world a little better in our wake - attitude. Metallica has always demonstrated that the best means sticking to your own pricipals and striving for excellence. Napster, in essence, has opened a gateway for people wanting to share music on the internet. They don't make any judgements on the sharing, they simply offer a cataloging service for the internet community as a whole. No one can comment on their future actions as they havn't occured yet and have no legal bearing.(Jason has made comment to the "what about in five years" thing) Anyone and everyone has formed their own gateway of sorts and trade mp3s through them. Then we have the MPAA and the RIAA who have been involved in a lot of recent dodgy cases and heard to utter words to the effect of "we need to get this case through - it's a test case" on at least one occasion. Is it the case that Metallica have been caught up in some sort of brainwashing excercise, have simply sold out, or were always just full of shit?
A CD is nothing like a book. A book uses paper as the medium for storing the information which is passively transmitted to the users eyes via light particles. Meanwhile, a CD uses plastic as the medium for storing information transmitted to the users microchip for conversion to an analogue signal which will finally force speakers to change the local air pressure and transmit to the user's ears. This runs through a maze of electrical circutry on it's trip and the law has now started to limit the paths that can be taken through that maze.
What the hell is wrong with this forum??? Ooooh, the law was right. We must agree that mp3.com had the law against them.....
BULLSHIT!!
I, for one, live in this society that is a result of all these "money talks" laws, and I am getting pretty pissed with the amount of freedom I DO NOT HAVE. Where did I see that article, during the week, about how a police state must take it's grip slowly so that the subjects have nothing to compare the experience to? Every week I'm seeing another example of our (what anyone new to the planet would take as natural) rights being eroded by organisations desperately trying to cling to the power they once had. We, the bottom line people, are the ones who are now getting a say in our lives and everytime someone comes up with a new freedom, it is crushed from above.
"It would be different if mp3.com was a repository for mp3s people made themselves and uploaded"
Did mp3.com make these MP3s themselves and then upload them to their server, or did they get someone else to do it, or did they click their fingers and the MP3s magically appeared on their servers? Do you know something we don't about mp3.com's magical prowess?
Try these links... If I'm right then eventually, once you can get through to the TerraServer Verions, the M$ links should work too. I've put in 2 different versions of the M$ links to account for the slightly different query format.
I read the Yahoo news report about this site being hit so many times and it seems that TerraServer thinks they're copping DOS attacks from crackers (they called them hackers.) They are being hit by hackers, these hackers are using their enginuity to try and get access to the images despite the server supposedly being down. Having a look at the M$ site, I noticed the links are in exactly the same(almost) format as the real Terraserver links. So I ran the co-ordinates through the M$ query and got the response that the images weren't available at that time. Supposing that M$ is feeding straight from the same image database, with the same links, this shows that the images have been removed from the web to prevent us "hackers" from accessing them. You'd think a website administrator might have a bit more savvy on what's going on.
a: No one told me about a Linux Expo in Sydney this week. I could fly up there now, but I've missed the mardi gras, the expos half finished and it's apparently raining cats and dogs.
b: Melbourne is the techie city in this country. While other places have been spending big time on Olympics construction we've been investing in the future. Though the new govt. hasn't even acknowledged the internet yet, the previous one basically "wired" the state and set us up as one of the most technologically advanced cities in the world.`
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if my house got burgled and someone posted an advert for the break-in on the internet, I'd be super-pissed at it, but I couldn't do a single thing about it within the law. I'd have to live with that, even if I didn't like it.
My house was burgled, I found my guitar in a pawn shop. On calling the police, I was told that if I was even going to get it back I would have to pay Cash-Converters what they paid for it - they bought it in good faith (from some guy who can't even play a guitar and had dodgy i.d.). I am expected, in this case, to allow for the company not taking the presumption that anyone entering their store is a criminal. I can manage this, but I want that extended to being a uniform way of looking at the public. Not just when it suits the companies sponsoring political parties.
What a bunch of impotent whiners. Here we are, the hotshot dickheads making the new economy and we're letting the media and big business label us all criminals.
I recommend we stop dealing with anyone who wants to take this tact and work exclusively in the areas which will allow us to grow as humans and be recognised for the miraculous work we're doing.
Don't ever be suckered into sharing an air conditioner with the accounts girls next door. Eventually they stop talking about thermal underwear and go to management with stories of bad lungs and crap like that. Complete control of your server room is the only way to go.
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9 Empty Ciggerette packets Some screwed up foil An MC Hammer CD 1001 Ripped up cigerette filters And a couple of empty coke bottles
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The law is the law, we cannot pick and choose which laws apply to us and which don't. Anyone who breaks the law is a criminal. No need to look at the situation involved, most people in western society are prepared to take you for a criminal should they hear that you regularly break the law. Now, bring on laws which are impossible to keep. Legislate thick and fast so the punters don't even know what's hitting them. With the right mix you can make everyone a criminal. The laws will mean less and the punters will start to ignore any laws that get in the way. Now we've got a good proportion of society who are becoming serious criminals. Tell everyone that they need you to protect them from all the criminals. Increase your powers and make more laws to ensure that protection.
loop
A Polish Catholic preist once said (something like) "When they came for the Jews, I didn't want to cause any trouble so I kept my mouth shut. When they came for the blacks, It still wasn't my fight so again I said nothing. When they cane for the Gays, and other undesirables, I figured that speaking up now was a bit ridiculous since I'd said nothing yet. When they came for me, there wasn't actually anyone left to speak up for me."
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE LINK ANYMORE?!?
...and on the topic...
Has anyone thought of getting off their asses and joining ICANN?
>>Total I think there is like 12 computer geeks, about half of that which are morons.
Having never met the six people you are refering to, I need to ask you - Are they morons because their personal priorities don't match up to what you judge as good and propper? If so, mayby you'd better go back up to the top of the page and start again.
If we, as a programming community, dry up the source of windows programmers, it will force up the price on the w*nkers who have learned only M$ and they'll wind up to be exposed as the frauds (the ones who are frauds - they must know who they are.) they are.
Meanwhile, IT managers will begin to understand that they need to move to non M$ platforms, or face getting left behind with outdated software and platforms.
That's not in any way trying to suggest that I actually know what I'm talking about or have thought the idea through at all.
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Send submitions to submitions@spyware.org
Anyone who could be bothered helping with this service or providing information would be appreciated.
"While laws will be required"!!!!!
Give me a break - what if we put that kind of energy into educating the net community and the greater community so even more laws won't be required. Who is it that says "The more corrupt the state, the more laws it has" or words to that effect?
This is obviosly flame bait! Who the hell gave it a 4 interesting? Do I have to read every pedantic little troll on this site now? - or are we trying to /. hotmail today?
Oh, and a big "HI!" to the ASIO computers who now have a general warrant to monitor all ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS in Australia... and of course the ESCHELON ones who pretty much cover it globally.
Telstra have cable access for $60 a month. It'll probably be cheaper next financial year, That is if you live within a (reasonable) distance from a data station.
Perhaps we should create the new system and have it competing with the current system. If artists and record companys can control their product then they will endorse the new system and all the little robots out there will be brainwashed into using it - eventually leading to mp3's (in it's current position) extinction.
Oh, God!
Did anyone else see that thing on a police state being created slowly so the subjects wouldn't have any experience to relate it to?
I am almost daily seeing a chance to link to it.
or just another milestone on the way.....
Being in too much of a hurry to read the already posted comments, I will now sit and stare blankly at the screen until I formulate something to say. I do feel strongly about this one....
Real networks has something to gain out of this. As US law works at the moment, certain properties must be defended to remain in the owner's "legal possesion". This costs them money. They are built on being uncopyable and a secure medium to transmit AV over the net. Most of their job would be done for them if they could send the cops after anyone that cracked their code - or saw a cracked version of it, perhaps. Same income, great established name, no overheads, who could blame them for giving it a go - except it may come to be.
I'm gonna set up a corperate watchdog site, based in Australia but working globally and am interested in hearing from anyone who might like to get involved.
BTW - can anyone crack Realmedia?
Off to read the comments now....
I've been buying Metallica stuff since 1986. I was attracted by the anti-establishment - we're gonna do it our way and damned if we don't wind up making the world a little better in our wake - attitude. Metallica has always demonstrated that the best means sticking to your own pricipals and striving for excellence.
Napster, in essence, has opened a gateway for people wanting to share music on the internet. They don't make any judgements on the sharing, they simply offer a cataloging service for the internet community as a whole. No one can comment on their future actions as they havn't occured yet and have no legal bearing.(Jason has made comment to the "what about in five years" thing)
Anyone and everyone has formed their own gateway of sorts and trade mp3s through them.
Then we have the MPAA and the RIAA who have been involved in a lot of recent dodgy cases and heard to utter words to the effect of "we need to get this case through - it's a test case" on at least one occasion.
Is it the case that Metallica have been caught up in some sort of brainwashing excercise, have simply sold out, or were always just full of shit?
A CD is nothing like a book. A book uses paper as the medium for storing the information which is passively transmitted to the users eyes via light particles. Meanwhile, a CD uses plastic as the medium for storing information transmitted to the users microchip for conversion to an analogue signal which will finally force speakers to change the local air pressure and transmit to the user's ears. This runs through a maze of electrical circutry on it's trip and the law has now started to limit the paths that can be taken through that maze.
Yep, about an hour ago it occurred to me that RIAA could have easily set this one up. It happens all the time.
What the hell is wrong with this forum???
Ooooh, the law was right. We must agree that mp3.com had the law against them.....
BULLSHIT!!
I, for one, live in this society that is a result of all these "money talks" laws, and I am getting pretty pissed with the amount of freedom I DO NOT HAVE.
Where did I see that article, during the week, about how a police state must take it's grip slowly so that the subjects have nothing to compare the experience to?
Every week I'm seeing another example of our (what anyone new to the planet would take as natural) rights being eroded by organisations desperately trying to cling to the power they once had.
We, the bottom line people, are the ones who are now getting a say in our lives and everytime someone comes up with a new freedom, it is crushed from above.
"It would be different if mp3.com was a repository for mp3s people made themselves and uploaded"
Did mp3.com make these MP3s themselves and then upload them to their server, or did they get someone else to do it, or did they click their fingers and the MP3s magically appeared on their servers?
Do you know something we don't about mp3.com's magical prowess?
Try these links... If I'm right then eventually, once you can get through to the TerraServer Verions, the M$ links should work too. I've put in 2 different versions of the M$ links to account for the slightly different query format.
Image 1 M$ Version (Slightly twisted) M$ Version TerraServer Version
Image 2 M$ Version (Slightl y twisted) M$ Version TerraServer Version
Image 3 M$ Version (Slightly twisted) M$ Version TerraServer Version
Image 4 M$ Version (Slightly twisted) M$ Version TerraServer Version
Image 5 M$ Version (Slightly twisted) M$ Version TerraServer Version
You want me to come up with a *.sig now too!?!
I read the Yahoo news report about this site being hit so many times and it seems that TerraServer thinks they're copping DOS attacks from crackers (they called them hackers.)
They are being hit by hackers, these hackers are using their enginuity to try and get access to the images despite the server supposedly being down.
Having a look at the M$ site, I noticed the links are in exactly the same(almost) format as the real Terraserver links. So I ran the co-ordinates through the M$ query and got the response that the images weren't available at that time.
Supposing that M$ is feeding straight from the same image database, with the same links, this shows that the images have been removed from the web to prevent us "hackers" from accessing them.
You'd think a website administrator might have a bit more savvy on what's going on.
You want me to come up with a *.sig now too!?!
Geez this shits me:
a: No one told me about a Linux Expo in Sydney this week. I could fly up there now, but I've missed the mardi gras, the expos half finished and it's apparently raining cats and dogs.
b: Melbourne is the techie city in this country. While other places have been spending big time on Olympics construction we've been investing in the future. Though the new govt. hasn't even acknowledged the internet yet, the previous one basically "wired" the state and set us up as one of the most technologically advanced cities in the world.`