Why would a government want to see your smart meter usage? please. and if you are having a rolling black out, the type of meter doesn't fucking matter, it's a black out.
What the could do is smarter brownouts. Hell, if the Electrical company spent the money and considerable time, it could implement a system that shuts off electricity to everything BUT your AC during a brownout.
Why do you think you control your meter? You don't, it's not your property.
Wind turbine noise is grating. Like a child clucking her tongue. At first you notice it and don't think much about it. But 50 clucks latter and your ready to scream.
Plus, using that same land you could use industrial solar thermal produce more energy cheaper and quieter. Or 4th gen nuclear plants.
but then the opposite gets the votes. By stirring discontent, they can blame everything on the president. Remember, one sides stated goal is not to help the american people, but to get Obama out of office at any cost. You should attend some of those rallies, the illogical, meanness and often underhanded racism is scary. Something I had thought was left behind with the 50's.
"..are much more likely to be failures of regulation and/or regulatory capture..." myth. The rolling brownout in California where made up to scare higher rates. It was part of Enron.
This was all brought to light in 2001.
"Most people incorporate positions on government into the religion centers of their brains." haha.. not true.
Those of us that actually look at facts. As in read all the shit around these issues, have shown over and over again the government regulate infrastructer has created better program, longer lasting programs. However, in every case I have read where a government group goes public, the results where worse service, worse reliability, increase in cost.
If you could be bothered to go down to the library and spend a few weeks comparing federal projects costs v. goal you would note something very interesting. Very little waste, extremely high success rate.
Most large private corporation are exactly the opposite.
If you don't want to spend weeks of your life* doing that, I could link several sites that back this. But you will excuse them away is 'liberal' and not actual review the facts.
The person who is using belief over reason is you.
Any underground system that has a problem with ground water and flooding isn't built correctly. Any earth movement sufficient to disrupts electrical line will be local, and will be the same issue if they had been above ground.
When ever electricity is lot to wind people talk about the infrastructure; which needs to be modernized.
Power is sealed, but that's besides the point in that it would happen a lot less. You're phone company has done something very wrong for that to happen, or you really don't understand what happened.
"Also consider that it makes no sense for these utility providers to retain standing armies of workers and equipment to react to rare events." why doesn't it?
Also, it wouldn't be "Armies"
"People need to grow up, " You need to grow up and stop making excuses. There is no reason not to have high expectation, and considering the response to these issues is getting worse over the last 25 years maybe something else is going on? like exec. being more focuses on bonuses then long term quality.
And socialism is not communism. Don't confuse the two. I know who have been brained wash that the EVIL Communist are going to GET YOU with there socialist ways, but stop and think.
Government infrastructure programs in the US have an excellent record.
As all evidence points to: Having government infrastructure to support a market works best. Extreme either way is bad.
No, its a one line summary of why you want to maintain proper controls on the system . New Orleans had much of their water lines ripped up because they didn't maintain the infrastructure properly. Maybe they could put all the water lines above ground?
"Buried repair is going to be an entire team involving excavator machines," you seem to miss the point that there would be a lot less of it.
And we do it now with other utilities. as well.
" Also you pretty much need a team to lay heavy buried cable but one (admittedly strong) dude can do aerial by himself." Not likely, and not with any really repetition or practicality. OTOH, on guy with a shovel could fix below ground utilities. IN fact, it would be easier then hanging cable. Not practical, but neither is your example.
As a bonus, you don't have downed power lines that could injure or kill someone.
Historically in the US the best way to do that is with a government infrastructure program. However, since there is a Dem. in office, infrastructure improvements are called 'socialism' and kill jobs.
" Utilities don't have enough staff to handle severe-storm outages – the expense would send rates soaring –"
No, they managed that level of staffing for years, but then started cutting because they realized that can make more money (exec. bonus) and they can blame the weather.
Now that are setting the stage for a price hike. IN which they will hire more people, and then let them go about 3 CEOs. later.
"An addiction is an addiction is an addiction." wrong, so I shufd assume the rest of your post is a spewed retread of many other myths regards addiction.
"Banning activities of any kind becasue a small percentage of the population has a problem with it is ALWAYS a bad idea " and I was correct. surprise. with the added bonus that you total took what I said incorrectly. Did you actually read the post, or just scan the first sentence and them immediately start pound you keyboard with you meat hooks what frothing at the mouth? Or are you simple?
Since history is full of example where restricting something has curbed it's use, I'll just assume you are simple.
"Regulation and taxation to raise revenue to offer people with help for addiction is the proper way to address things like gambling and drugs. WTF? so you didn't read my post? Not allowing it in the homes, or in common ares like grocery stores IS regulation. Keep it in casinos and gambling establishments.
People make for few decisions then they think they do. I mean, sure you may 'think' about something, but the decsion you rach was determined before the thought bubbled to the top of your brain, as it where.
As I said in the post,m this is based on neurological science, not on a feeling, or a BS religious position. It is'in fact, quite the opposite then what I would have said 10 years ago. When I thought every decision was unknown until thinking at the conscious level occurred. Turns out, I was wrong.
I am really looking forward to studies about peoples thinking process when they need to solve an out of bounds problem. If it goes where it looks like it's going, things are going to get weird.
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But they have the right to enter you're property with any work dealing with their meter.
And most people the person enters their property.
Assuming RF meter reading. The meter reader would note no reading and then look at their property; which you have vandalized.
What a bunch of nonsense.
Why would a government want to see your smart meter usage? please.
and if you are having a rolling black out, the type of meter doesn't fucking matter, it's a black out.
What the could do is smarter brownouts. Hell, if the Electrical company spent the money and considerable time, it could implement a system that shuts off electricity to everything BUT your AC during a brownout.
Why do you think you control your meter? You don't, it's not your property.
Would you rather stand ion a sunny beach all day, or outside a container leaking highly radioactive fluid all day.
Using the sun as an example is misleading.
argument as the fear portion of FUD.
The RF is safe. Any controversy about that is manufactured in PR room, or stupid peoples heads.
The privacy "concern" is a policy issue. One that is way overrated.
Can decide if crazy or trying to be funny.
Imagine if trains never stopped running.
Wind turbine noise is grating. Like a child clucking her tongue. At first you notice it and don't think much about it. But 50 clucks latter and your ready to scream.
Plus, using that same land you could use industrial solar thermal produce more energy cheaper and quieter. Or 4th gen nuclear plants.
Not that there isn't anyplace for windmills.
but then the opposite gets the votes. By stirring discontent, they can blame everything on the president.
Remember, one sides stated goal is not to help the american people, but to get Obama out of office at any cost.
You should attend some of those rallies, the illogical, meanness and often underhanded racism is scary. Something I had thought was left behind with the 50's.
"..are much more likely to be failures of regulation and/or regulatory capture..."
myth.
The rolling brownout in California where made up to scare higher rates. It was part of Enron.
This was all brought to light in 2001.
"Most people incorporate positions on government into the religion centers of their brains."
haha.. not true.
Those of us that actually look at facts. As in read all the shit around these issues, have shown over and over again the government regulate infrastructer has created better program, longer lasting programs.
However, in every case I have read where a government group goes public, the results where worse service, worse reliability, increase in cost.
If you could be bothered to go down to the library and spend a few weeks comparing federal projects costs v. goal you would note something very interesting. Very little waste, extremely high success rate.
Most large private corporation are exactly the opposite.
If you don't want to spend weeks of your life* doing that, I could link several sites that back this. But you will excuse them away is 'liberal' and not actual review the facts.
The person who is using belief over reason is you.
*could be years if you get really detailed.
Cause.. look1 Someone claims Obama wasn't born in the US!!
Any underground system that has a problem with ground water and flooding isn't built correctly.
Any earth movement sufficient to disrupts electrical line will be local, and will be the same issue if they had been above ground.
When ever electricity is lot to wind people talk about the infrastructure; which needs to be modernized.
Power is sealed, but that's besides the point in that it would happen a lot less.
You're phone company has done something very wrong for that to happen, or you really don't understand what happened.
You should be able to have a switch put in the stops back feed. With down' lines, back feed could kill someone, so don't 'get around' it.
Well, that post was incredibly wrong.
Having untrained people around down power lines is likely to get someone killed.
No, it doesn't, and it will make things worse.
". Since today there is no greater fundamental evil in the United States than the public sector"
Fuck. You.
If Congress said they wanted to do it, the US government would put the best in the world in place.
Death panel is a phrase made up by Fox that is meaningless, stop using it.
The poster is either a troll, or stupid, not worth responding to.
"Also consider that it makes no sense for these utility providers to retain standing armies of workers and equipment to react to rare events."
why doesn't it?
Also, it wouldn't be "Armies"
"People need to grow up, "
You need to grow up and stop making excuses. There is no reason not to have high expectation, and considering the response to these issues is getting worse over the last 25 years maybe something else is going on? like exec. being more focuses on bonuses then long term quality.
we are talking about weeks, not 48 hours.
No, he means capitalism.
And socialism is not communism. Don't confuse the two. I know who have been brained wash that the EVIL Communist are going to GET YOU with there socialist ways, but stop and think.
Government infrastructure programs in the US have an excellent record.
As all evidence points to:
Having government infrastructure to support a market works best. Extreme either way is bad.
No, its a one line summary of why you want to maintain proper controls on the system
.
New Orleans had much of their water lines ripped up because they didn't maintain the infrastructure properly. Maybe they could put all the water lines above ground?
"Buried repair is going to be an entire team involving excavator machines,"
you seem to miss the point that there would be a lot less of it.
And we do it now with other utilities. as well.
" Also you pretty much need a team to lay heavy buried cable but one (admittedly strong) dude can do aerial by himself."
Not likely, and not with any really repetition or practicality.
OTOH, on guy with a shovel could fix below ground utilities. IN fact, it would be easier then hanging cable. Not practical, but neither is your example.
As a bonus, you don't have downed power lines that could injure or kill someone.
Actually it would e a great government infrastructure program. Relying on the individual electrical system to do it would be follow.
And yes, it would come from taxes, and yes I would be fine with paying the slight tax increase.
Historically in the US the best way to do that is with a government infrastructure program.
However, since there is a Dem. in office, infrastructure improvements are called 'socialism' and kill jobs.
Since Obama didn't put off a response, and since homeland security isn't intentionally creating more delays, Why would anyone blame Obama?
Bush wasn't blamed for Katrina, the was blamed for is lack of response.
What is it with you people and your persecution complex?
" Utilities don't have enough staff to handle severe-storm outages – the expense would send rates soaring –"
No, they managed that level of staffing for years, but then started cutting because they realized that can make more money (exec. bonus) and they can blame the weather.
Now that are setting the stage for a price hike. IN which they will hire more people, and then let them go about 3 CEOs. later.
"An addiction is an addiction is an addiction."
wrong, so I shufd assume the rest of your post is a spewed retread of many other myths regards addiction.
"Banning activities of any kind becasue a small percentage of the population has a problem with it is ALWAYS a bad idea "
and I was correct. surprise. with the added bonus that you total took what I said incorrectly. Did you actually read the post, or just scan the first sentence and them immediately start pound you keyboard with you meat hooks what frothing at the mouth? Or are you simple?
Since history is full of example where restricting something has curbed it's use, I'll just assume you are simple.
"Regulation and taxation to raise revenue to offer people with help for addiction is the proper way to address things like gambling and drugs.
WTF? so you didn't read my post? Not allowing it in the homes, or in common ares like grocery stores IS regulation.
Keep it in casinos and gambling establishments.
People make for few decisions then they think they do. I mean, sure you may 'think' about something, but the decsion you rach was determined before the thought bubbled to the top of your brain, as it where.
As I said in the post,m this is based on neurological science, not on a feeling, or a BS religious position. It is'in fact, quite the opposite then what I would have said 10 years ago.
When I thought every decision was unknown until thinking at the conscious level occurred. Turns out, I was wrong.
I am really looking forward to studies about peoples thinking process when they need to solve an out of bounds problem.
If it goes where it looks like it's going, things are going to get weird.