What a great idea. So I guess that any professional photographer or online stock photo business can go fuck right off and die, then.
Do you grasp the concept that there's a difference between scraping Facebook (no expectation of privacy or protection for your posts) and scraping Getty images or JoePhotographer.com (who have samples of their for-sale work online)? I find that selling photographs, images and clip art online is a valid business model-- one that I support with my dollars, as a matter of fact.
Why stop at any image? I guess that any online application I program, once it's posted, doesn't belong to me either.
Luckily, whenever something that is posted on/. with the tagline "look ma-- no flash" we don't have to RFTA to know that the implementation is most likely broken.
If you're interested in the history of humankind's struggle to suss out the nature of disease, I strongly recommend a book called "The Ghost Map" by Steven Johnson. It details the cholera epidemics of London during the mid-1800s, and is particularly concerned with the (then heretical) idea that illnesses could be transmitted thru contaminated drinking water rather that as "maisma".
There's maps, evil bureaucrats, the struggle to figure out how disease patterns relate to the location of London's water pumps-- very much a detective story.
It's one of those "historical-fact-with-fictional-details" type books-- similar to parts of Stevenson's Baroque cycle.
It's got some great details about the really gross and horrible effects of cholera as well.
I remember that leak-- as a child, every summer I used to go swimming off Padre Island (near Corpus Christi), and one time I came back from swimming with hot, sticky tar clumped all over my body. Put me off oceans for years.
I know-- let's bring back LiveMotion! It was a "flash killer" back in 2000, it's had ten years to sharpen its claws, brooding, waiting for revenge... LiveMotion, your time has come!
100% right on, Rev.
There's a huge, international community of flash developers that are being told, over and over, that the sexy new platform that everyone is building apps/getting paid to develop for is COMPLETELY CLOSED to them-- and not a peep from Adobe. As a flash developer since version 2 (yeah, that's right-- I really hated JS back in the day), I'm F**KIN PISSED. I'm giving a lecture next month at the LPM festival on Flash/YouTube video mixing for club visuals-- now I feel like a New Coke salesman.
Disclaimer? Apology? Press release? Maybe assurance of future support for other mobile devices (like it matters at this point)?
I guess instead of purchasing the new version of CS (barf) I'll buy some HTML5 dev books and update my Javascript skills (double barf), because Adobe seems keen on abandoning Flash as a platform (does anybody here remember Director?).
Time to jump ship while I can.
Part of this business is about staying current, not loyal.
Please mod parent up! He is ABSOLUTELY correct.
I've been working as a fine artist for 20 years, I have multiple degrees at the graduate level in fine art, I ran a gallery that featured "interactive" and game- based projects, and I damn well know my way around contemporary art theory-- Douchey is right when he says that INTENTION is everything. Did you intend for your action/object/project to be viewed as/judged as a work of art? Then it is. That's it, end of discussion. Emotional response, narrative, winning/losing, all that stuff-- merely aesthetic judgment calls.
Whether or not it it is a good or interesting work of art is another matter. And (flame away if you must) without the intention of being "art", the artistry of video game creation (as freakin amazing as it is) is in service to a craft.
So... I guess Ebert is more right than he knows- I can't think of a COMMERCIAL video game that has ever INTENDED to be an art project (maybe flower...). In fact, video game projects that explicitly intend to be art projects, in my opinion, cease to be video games in the same way Duchamp's "fountain" has ceased to be a piss-pot.
All your points are totally valid and seem to be well thought out. The issue for "leeches" like DragonTHC (and myself-- I do my fair share of Netflix, XBox live, and web dev work at all hours of the day and -- suprise -- I don't even HAVE a torrent client installed on my gear) is that what Comcast is selling takes none of that into account.
Anyone here could have predicted that the asymmetrical use of internet by many customers with different needs would result in less than optimal service for everyone-- and the solution to mysteriously throttle usage and inject "man-in-the-middle" attacks to disconnect the "bad" customers is a bad call on Comcast's part.
Tiered pricing? I would pay for that. Being treated like a criminal for eating all I can eat at the ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET is a breach of contract.
To be fair, driving stoned is indeed a terrifying, dangerous experience. Some people *ahem* have enormous difficulty with temporal and spatial relationships when stoned. If I had to pick one, I guess I would rather be impaired driving slowly and stoned than recklessly and drunk... this is not a recommendation for either, of course.
"A man under the influence of weed is completely unfit to drive a car. Weed disturbs your sense of time and consequently your sense of spatial relations. Once, in New Orleans, I had to pull over to the side of the road and wait until the weed wore off. I could not tell how far away anything was or when to turn or put on the brakes for an intersection"
"Junky", William S.. Burroughs
Sounds like fun.... as I'm blowing thru the intersection, I'll take both hands off the wheel, hit the gas, cover my face, and hide behind the dashboard, only to look up once I feel a suitable time has passed so as not get a ticket...
Where do you live, so I can NEVER BE ON THE ROAD WITH YOU AT ALL EVAR?
No lever in the original asteroids that I played in the mid-eighties, as I recall-- only buttons.
Left/right, fire, thrust, and hyperspace. You would have to have a button-pushing robot arm, which would make the programming challenge all about finding the "sweet spot" of how long to hold = how many degrees (pixels?) rotation, how much acceleration given, etc.
Also, I remember the way to rack up the points was to leave the last tiny asteroid on the screen and wait for the UFOs to come by, and shoot them. Minimize danger + maximize easy points. Would have to program that strategy in as well.
Others have mentioned levers, tho, so I could be wrong.
Ugh. "Gun control" != "taking away law abiding citizens'" guns.
How about the requirements for legal gun ownership are as stringent as getting a drivers license? Or gun ownership is as carefully regulated as car ownership? I love me some shooting, and I've been trained to RESPECT and CAREFULLY handle guns (by cops, no less). Not everyone has been so trained-- and not everyone shot with a gun has been shot by a criminal.
We can't prevent criminals from doing criminal acts, as you so helpfully pointed out. Possibly we can prevent dimwits from handling tools they aren't competent to use?
I would like that as well... and while you're at it, I'd like a pony. With lazer beams.
Let me ask you this-- how well does your established technology (television) work with 20-40 year old content? How do those rabbit ears look on your HDTV-- does the signal come in nice and clear? and your Netflix and Hulu, how well does that stream over that weird little converter box that I used to have to screw in the back of the set so I could play my Magnavox Odyssey?
And you want software to be "bulletproof" over the course of twenty years... Hell, I'd be thrilled with a web app lasting five years. I've built (non commercial, for-my-own-use-only) apps that broke in a freakin WEEK due to changing standards. Dealing with an environment in constant flux is, unfortunately, the life we've chosen.
The book you're thinking of is:
Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons
Great read-- kinda like "everyone is Kevin Bacon" except with Satanists, physicists, and random movie and fine art scenesters from the 50s.
Performance is rather secondary. This is about standards and cross-platform compatibility. Flash is an atrocity in this regard, and the earlier it gets tossed out on the trash heap of computing history, the better.
How did you get modded up for that comment?
The main (some would say only) strength flash has is its consistent functionality across all platforms/browsers-- that is, if it runs at all, it runs exactly the same everywhere.
Maybe you like writing a million different sniffer codes and a jillion javascript tweaks to make your projects run/display consistently when moving from windows to mac to IE to Mozilla to whatever. I certainly don't.
Mod parent up!
I'm not looking forward to years of brittle HTML5 implementation on every damn "browser of the week" when building apps and games. At least Flash (don't get me wrong, I don't like a lot of its closed implementation either) works the same in all platforms that it runs on-- I develop for kiosks and museum exhibits as well. Why does everyone think implementing an HTML5 standard will result in all the crazy different browsers using it in a standard way?
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I teach from "designing web usability" (I'm looking at my copy right now) in my intro to Flash classes, you insensitive clod!
What a great idea. So I guess that any professional photographer or online stock photo business can go fuck right off and die, then. Do you grasp the concept that there's a difference between scraping Facebook (no expectation of privacy or protection for your posts) and scraping Getty images or JoePhotographer.com (who have samples of their for-sale work online)? I find that selling photographs, images and clip art online is a valid business model-- one that I support with my dollars, as a matter of fact. Why stop at any image? I guess that any online application I program, once it's posted, doesn't belong to me either.
Luckily, whenever something that is posted on /. with the tagline "look ma-- no flash" we don't have to RFTA to know that the implementation is most likely broken.
jeesus you are so f**kin right... fap-fap-fap-fap
If you're interested in the history of humankind's struggle to suss out the nature of disease, I strongly recommend a book called "The Ghost Map" by Steven Johnson. It details the cholera epidemics of London during the mid-1800s, and is particularly concerned with the (then heretical) idea that illnesses could be transmitted thru contaminated drinking water rather that as "maisma".
There's maps, evil bureaucrats, the struggle to figure out how disease patterns relate to the location of London's water pumps-- very much a detective story. It's one of those "historical-fact-with-fictional-details" type books-- similar to parts of Stevenson's Baroque cycle.
It's got some great details about the really gross and horrible effects of cholera as well.
I remember that leak-- as a child, every summer I used to go swimming off Padre Island (near Corpus Christi), and one time I came back from swimming with hot, sticky tar clumped all over my body. Put me off oceans for years.
I know-- let's bring back LiveMotion! It was a "flash killer" back in 2000, it's had ten years to sharpen its claws, brooding, waiting for revenge... LiveMotion, your time has come!
100% right on, Rev.
There's a huge, international community of flash developers that are being told, over and over, that the sexy new platform that everyone is building apps/getting paid to develop for is COMPLETELY CLOSED to them-- and not a peep from Adobe. As a flash developer since version 2 (yeah, that's right-- I really hated JS back in the day), I'm F**KIN PISSED. I'm giving a lecture next month at the LPM festival on Flash/YouTube video mixing for club visuals-- now I feel like a New Coke salesman.
Disclaimer? Apology? Press release? Maybe assurance of future support for other mobile devices (like it matters at this point)?
I guess instead of purchasing the new version of CS (barf) I'll buy some HTML5 dev books and update my Javascript skills (double barf), because Adobe seems keen on abandoning Flash as a platform (does anybody here remember Director?).
Time to jump ship while I can.
Part of this business is about staying current, not loyal.
right... because no one has ever designed a Flash app optimized for touch screen. Guh.
Second that! I used that book as reference material in my graduate thesis.
Please mod parent up! He is ABSOLUTELY correct. I've been working as a fine artist for 20 years, I have multiple degrees at the graduate level in fine art, I ran a gallery that featured "interactive" and game- based projects, and I damn well know my way around contemporary art theory-- Douchey is right when he says that INTENTION is everything. Did you intend for your action/object/project to be viewed as/judged as a work of art? Then it is. That's it, end of discussion. Emotional response, narrative, winning/losing, all that stuff-- merely aesthetic judgment calls.
Whether or not it it is a good or interesting work of art is another matter. And (flame away if you must) without the intention of being "art", the artistry of video game creation (as freakin amazing as it is) is in service to a craft.
So... I guess Ebert is more right than he knows- I can't think of a COMMERCIAL video game that has ever INTENDED to be an art project (maybe flower...). In fact, video game projects that explicitly intend to be art projects, in my opinion, cease to be video games in the same way Duchamp's "fountain" has ceased to be a piss-pot.
A quick google gave me this result, I'm sure there are more-- video game is the media, but the intention is art project. Counter strike game that squirts real blood
Why does video games have to be "art", anyway? To be in a museum? Museums are where art and creativity go to die. Let video games live-- LIVE, I say!
All your points are totally valid and seem to be well thought out. The issue for "leeches" like DragonTHC (and myself-- I do my fair share of Netflix, XBox live, and web dev work at all hours of the day and -- suprise -- I don't even HAVE a torrent client installed on my gear) is that what Comcast is selling takes none of that into account.
Anyone here could have predicted that the asymmetrical use of internet by many customers with different needs would result in less than optimal service for everyone-- and the solution to mysteriously throttle usage and inject "man-in-the-middle" attacks to disconnect the "bad" customers is a bad call on Comcast's part.
Tiered pricing? I would pay for that. Being treated like a criminal for eating all I can eat at the ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET is a breach of contract.
To be fair, driving stoned is indeed a terrifying, dangerous experience. Some people *ahem* have enormous difficulty with temporal and spatial relationships when stoned. If I had to pick one, I guess I would rather be impaired driving slowly and stoned than recklessly and drunk... this is not a recommendation for either, of course.
"A man under the influence of weed is completely unfit to drive a car. Weed disturbs your sense of time and consequently your sense of spatial relations. Once, in New Orleans, I had to pull over to the side of the road and wait until the weed wore off. I could not tell how far away anything was or when to turn or put on the brakes for an intersection"
"Junky", William S.. Burroughs
What about "Netscape Communicator"? I use it all the time for my WYSIWYG web publishing. All the text has the "blink" tag applied by default!
I guess you would have seen the "whoosh" go by if your hands hadn't been obscuring your face!
Sounds like fun.... as I'm blowing thru the intersection, I'll take both hands off the wheel, hit the gas, cover my face, and hide behind the dashboard, only to look up once I feel a suitable time has passed so as not get a ticket...
Where do you live, so I can NEVER BE ON THE ROAD WITH YOU AT ALL EVAR?
No lever in the original asteroids that I played in the mid-eighties, as I recall-- only buttons. Left/right, fire, thrust, and hyperspace. You would have to have a button-pushing robot arm, which would make the programming challenge all about finding the "sweet spot" of how long to hold = how many degrees (pixels?) rotation, how much acceleration given, etc. Also, I remember the way to rack up the points was to leave the last tiny asteroid on the screen and wait for the UFOs to come by, and shoot them. Minimize danger + maximize easy points. Would have to program that strategy in as well. Others have mentioned levers, tho, so I could be wrong.
Ugh. "Gun control" != "taking away law abiding citizens'" guns. How about the requirements for legal gun ownership are as stringent as getting a drivers license? Or gun ownership is as carefully regulated as car ownership? I love me some shooting, and I've been trained to RESPECT and CAREFULLY handle guns (by cops, no less). Not everyone has been so trained-- and not everyone shot with a gun has been shot by a criminal. We can't prevent criminals from doing criminal acts, as you so helpfully pointed out. Possibly we can prevent dimwits from handling tools they aren't competent to use?
well, all I have to say is, "thank f**kin God" for our non-patentable genes...
I would like that as well... and while you're at it, I'd like a pony. With lazer beams. Let me ask you this-- how well does your established technology (television) work with 20-40 year old content? How do those rabbit ears look on your HDTV-- does the signal come in nice and clear? and your Netflix and Hulu, how well does that stream over that weird little converter box that I used to have to screw in the back of the set so I could play my Magnavox Odyssey? And you want software to be "bulletproof" over the course of twenty years... Hell, I'd be thrilled with a web app lasting five years. I've built (non commercial, for-my-own-use-only) apps that broke in a freakin WEEK due to changing standards. Dealing with an environment in constant flux is, unfortunately, the life we've chosen.
The book you're thinking of is: Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons Great read-- kinda like "everyone is Kevin Bacon" except with Satanists, physicists, and random movie and fine art scenesters from the 50s.
Performance is rather secondary. This is about standards and cross-platform compatibility. Flash is an atrocity in this regard, and the earlier it gets tossed out on the trash heap of computing history, the better.
How did you get modded up for that comment? The main (some would say only) strength flash has is its consistent functionality across all platforms/browsers-- that is, if it runs at all, it runs exactly the same everywhere. Maybe you like writing a million different sniffer codes and a jillion javascript tweaks to make your projects run/display consistently when moving from windows to mac to IE to Mozilla to whatever. I certainly don't.
really, I'd like to know-- does this fall under that category? INAL....
Mod parent up! I'm not looking forward to years of brittle HTML5 implementation on every damn "browser of the week" when building apps and games. At least Flash (don't get me wrong, I don't like a lot of its closed implementation either) works the same in all platforms that it runs on-- I develop for kiosks and museum exhibits as well. Why does everyone think implementing an HTML5 standard will result in all the crazy different browsers using it in a standard way?