And if you guys keep having those heatwaves, we'll have to get used to having you all around here more. This summer I bumped into a few different groups that came over for the weather raving about how much nicer 25C was than 45C:)
Tyres (especially from trucks and tractors) were common school playground equipment when I was a kid. As well as those large wooden spools used for heavy duty electrical cables and sections of 1m diameter concrete stormwater pipes. The pipes were concreted in place though - no rolling those around:)
All they are doing is winding back the clock to what NZ primary schools were like 30+yrs ago. So no, I don't expect this will make any difference to the economy.
But being an NZer in my 40s though, I can identify with the results of the study. My primary school was like this (bullrush was great fun) and there was next to no bullying. Then onto a strict private secondary school with endless dumb rules and punishments for everything - the bullying there was terrible.
Always had cats, dogs, horses. Plenty of exposure to everything when i was a little kid. Used to spend my days in the woods and fields with a head full of snot.
Still ended up being severely allergic to a ton of stuff. Currently have a dog and 3 cats i'm SEVERELY allergic to. correlation doesn't equal causation.
correlation doesn't equal causation.
Science and medicine just has no fucking clue. But they don't want to just come out and SAY that.
I want s ome money for guessing too. My guess is.... SHIT HAPPENS!
I will see your lazy knee jerk slashdot cliche and raise you another...
"Anecdote != data"
Speaking of slashdot cliches, you obviously didn't read the article to find out what they actually studied. Hint: it involved isolating the effect of a specific microbe on T cell counts (and symptoms) in the lab - it wasn't "collect some health data on some kids and run it through a stats package looking for some kind of relationship".
- Theo is a complete asshole, but also quite correct about most things. OpenBSD is rather behind the times in general, but very good at what it does do. And their stance on BSD license and making BSD tools is great.
Yeah the bit that struck me here was that Theo was relatively complimentary about Linux and Linux devs. eg mentioning Linux also did this stuff ages ago and that OpenBSD used some research from Ted Ts'o (and others) in their implementation.
So the complaint wasn't about credit for who was first, just about how FreeBSD got a bunch of Snowden related media coverage for something practically everyone else did ages ago as if it was something new to worry about.
Are you a Muslim? Has the US replaced the Constitution with Sharia law? If the answer is No and No, then Bin Laden didn't win, or anything thing close to it. His demand was the US convert to Islam and implement Sharia law.
Got any references for that?
My understanding is that he definitely wanted the Muslim world converted to Sharia law. But his original goals for the US (and the west) were to get foreign troops out of Saudi Arabia, to end support for Israel, and for an end to western support/involvement/activity in Muslim countries (presumably to not get in the way of their goal of converting the Muslim world).
Later on the strategy expanded to include causing the US economy to collapse by provoking them into more wars of attrition by invading/occupying new countries. That economic damage strategy was kinda working for a while. But the US got tired of playing along with it long before the economy would've collapsed. The financial crisis ended up hurting the economy far more anyway.
But I've never heard any reliable source for the claim that he aimed to covert the US to Sharia and Americans to Islam (no doubt he obviously would've been happy with that though). I've only ever heard it from the "they hate us for our freedom" crowd.
I'm not just arguing for the sake of it, I'm genuinely interested in anything you have to back it up.
Confusion on this point is potentially dangerous, and frankly stupid.
I look forward to you clarifying it for me then...
Printing also gives you the advantage of having backups that you can walk out of the building with and not set off any alarms, since many tightly-regulated companies lock down the use of USB sticks, external hard disks, and etc. (my last employer -- a web-banking software house-- would literally fire you on the spot if you got caught using a geek stick or external drive on their desk/laptop equipment or servers - at least if you do it w/o prior written manager authorization and only on authorized devices.)
I don't think the company in question here cares enough about security for this to be a problem.
I tend to be the opposite. I avoid live albums because I don't really care how good the band really is. I only care how good the music is when it gets to me.
I generally feel the same about live albums. But Live after Death is one of the rare exceptions for me. And I'm not exactly an Iron Maiden fan to begin with:)
Chrome has (or at least had last time I looked) an 'enterprise' download that could be managed via Group Policy and do updates on a centralised schedule.
OK OK you got me... I completely retract my claim 100%. I was just talking "drivel".
Now to show you're not really just a troll and actually are a PHP fanboy*, why don't you tell us why you think PHP is at least as good as other popular languages.
* Having never met one before (even at well attended PHP user group meetings), I didn't realise PHP fanboys even existed.
If you really are a fanboy, what are the good or even great things about PHP? What attracts you to it? Is it the internal consistency? The elegant expressive syntax? The well thought out standard library? Is it the lack of regressions? The joy of php.ini differences? The open way new features are designed and ironed out? The awesome capabilities of the core development and security teams? The package management?
Or to stay on topic you could educate us plebs as to how other popular languages are equivalent to PHP in respect to how the language itself affects security. That should be easy - after all you get to pick which of the other popular languages you can compare it to.
Some actual reasoning other than "nuh uh" or "is not" would be nice for a change. Show me you weren't just trolling...
It seems you are the one without an answer. Where are your examples that show other popular languages to be as bad as PHP has been then?
The view that PHP doesn't have a comparatively shoddy security record is the extraordinary claim here and the one that needs evidence. I could just as well ask that your personal preference doesn't get in the way of you being rational and objective.
As I said, I'll gladly retract my statement - just show me how other popular languages are as bad or worse.
Note the context you neglected was core language design mistakes rather than implementation mistakes. Implementation mistakes while bad can generally be fixed without breaking anything. PHP has had more than it's fair share of those too.
Compared with other languages I've used over the last 15yrs, PHP has been the standout one that seems to have to put convenient but insecure by design functionality (eg register_globals, magic_quotes etc) on a long many year cycle of recommending against using it, deprecating it, turning it off by default, then finally removing it. Each of these features has left behind a trail of legacy articles and books helping unsuspecting newbies to create insecure sites.
It seems especially bad when PHP was intended to be used on the web right from the start.
I don't recall any other popular language having to back out of their own deliberate design decisions the way PHP has had to multiple times.
Hopefully that was hilarious enough for you - I'll gladly take back the word "objectively" though if you want to provide examples of other popular languages being just as bad as or worse than PHP in this respect. Maybe I just haven't been following other crappy languages closely enough.
I can predict there will be a lot of posts by developers of other languages laughing at PHP while ignoring their own languages massive security failures in the often not so distant past. That is okay when for instance Ruby had their massive security hole or Java applets were kicked out of every browser, I giggled like a schoolgirl too.
Ruby? Don't you mean Rails? That wasn't a problem with the Ruby itself. Just like Wordpress bugs are not PHP bugs. I'm deliberately not including application bugs - the track record PHP apps have would make PHPs record look even worse.
And wasn't that massive Rails security hole (assuming you're talking about that autopopulation of variables from user input misfeature) the kind of misfeature that PHP pioneered and baked into its core language?
You can't really compare Java applet sandboxing problems either - PHP has no sandboxing of untrusted code or anything comparable at all (what a train wreck that would be). A better comparison is: how is Java's security record as a web server compared to PHPs?
PHP is relatively unique in the way they've had so many security problems that were badly designed language features rather than just implementation mistakes.
PHP has been objectively worse than practically every other language. Yet you still get people who just can't see the difference in scale/scope, and whine "but but other languages have had problems too!".
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No worries, I like Australians :)
And if you guys keep having those heatwaves, we'll have to get used to having you all around here more. This summer I bumped into a few different groups that came over for the weather raving about how much nicer 25C was than 45C :)
Tyres (especially from trucks and tractors) were common school playground equipment when I was a kid. As well as those large wooden spools used for heavy duty electrical cables and sections of 1m diameter concrete stormwater pipes. The pipes were concreted in place though - no rolling those around :)
All they are doing is winding back the clock to what NZ primary schools were like 30+yrs ago. So no, I don't expect this will make any difference to the economy.
But being an NZer in my 40s though, I can identify with the results of the study. My primary school was like this (bullrush was great fun) and there was next to no bullying. Then onto a strict private secondary school with endless dumb rules and punishments for everything - the bullying there was terrible.
I will see your lazy knee jerk slashdot cliche and raise you another...
"Anecdote != data"
Speaking of slashdot cliches, you obviously didn't read the article to find out what they actually studied. Hint: it involved isolating the effect of a specific microbe on T cell counts (and symptoms) in the lab - it wasn't "collect some health data on some kids and run it through a stats package looking for some kind of relationship".
Thank you. I have to admit the only reason I opened this thread was because I was hoping someone would do something like that.
Yeah the bit that struck me here was that Theo was relatively complimentary about Linux and Linux devs. eg mentioning Linux also did this stuff ages ago and that OpenBSD used some research from Ted Ts'o (and others) in their implementation.
So the complaint wasn't about credit for who was first, just about how FreeBSD got a bunch of Snowden related media coverage for something practically everyone else did ages ago as if it was something new to worry about.
Ha! In the real world we'd end up with the Nutrimatics Drinks Dispenser.
Sexist arsehole?
Wow that one went right over your head.
I was pointing out (via parody) the absurdity of his argument for cats being smarter than dogs based on numbers of neurons.
And the "appear smarter" bit was also a pre-emptive dig at all the sexist geeks likely to take it at face value.
So does that mean (from your link) that men are 21% smarter than women? And women just appear smarter because they're pack animals?
Got any references for that?
My understanding is that he definitely wanted the Muslim world converted to Sharia law. But his original goals for the US (and the west) were to get foreign troops out of Saudi Arabia, to end support for Israel, and for an end to western support/involvement/activity in Muslim countries (presumably to not get in the way of their goal of converting the Muslim world).
Later on the strategy expanded to include causing the US economy to collapse by provoking them into more wars of attrition by invading/occupying new countries. That economic damage strategy was kinda working for a while. But the US got tired of playing along with it long before the economy would've collapsed. The financial crisis ended up hurting the economy far more anyway.
But I've never heard any reliable source for the claim that he aimed to covert the US to Sharia and Americans to Islam (no doubt he obviously would've been happy with that though). I've only ever heard it from the "they hate us for our freedom" crowd.
I'm not just arguing for the sake of it, I'm genuinely interested in anything you have to back it up.
I look forward to you clarifying it for me then...
I don't think the company in question here cares enough about security for this to be a problem.
I generally feel the same about live albums. But Live after Death is one of the rare exceptions for me. And I'm not exactly an Iron Maiden fan to begin with :)
Were you aware of Paver? http://paver.github.io/paver/
The names could get a little confusing as pave is also a Python project in nearly the same space.
Like qtile?
You'd have to like using tiling wms though.
Don't know about forth, but Xmonad uses haskell. Yet again, you'd need to like using tiling wms though :)
Is that you Maurice?
I have a Bambleweeny 57 Submeson Brain, an atomic vector plotter and a nice hot cup of tea.
And I-ran (so far away) is investigating that for enhancing their anti drone program.
Not enough irony or recursion for Slashdot. How about "Imagine a beowulf cluster of these"?
Chrome has (or at least had last time I looked) an 'enterprise' download that could be managed via Group Policy and do updates on a centralised schedule.
Improbable.
OK OK you got me... I completely retract my claim 100%. I was just talking "drivel".
Now to show you're not really just a troll and actually are a PHP fanboy*, why don't you tell us why you think PHP is at least as good as other popular languages.
* Having never met one before (even at well attended PHP user group meetings), I didn't realise PHP fanboys even existed.
If you really are a fanboy, what are the good or even great things about PHP? What attracts you to it? Is it the internal consistency? The elegant expressive syntax? The well thought out standard library? Is it the lack of regressions? The joy of php.ini differences? The open way new features are designed and ironed out? The awesome capabilities of the core development and security teams? The package management?
Or to stay on topic you could educate us plebs as to how other popular languages are equivalent to PHP in respect to how the language itself affects security. That should be easy - after all you get to pick which of the other popular languages you can compare it to.
Some actual reasoning other than "nuh uh" or "is not" would be nice for a change. Show me you weren't just trolling...
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It seems you are the one without an answer. Where are your examples that show other popular languages to be as bad as PHP has been then?
The view that PHP doesn't have a comparatively shoddy security record is the extraordinary claim here and the one that needs evidence. I could just as well ask that your personal preference doesn't get in the way of you being rational and objective.
As I said, I'll gladly retract my statement - just show me how other popular languages are as bad or worse.
Note the context you neglected was core language design mistakes rather than implementation mistakes. Implementation mistakes while bad can generally be fixed without breaking anything. PHP has had more than it's fair share of those too.
Compared with other languages I've used over the last 15yrs, PHP has been the standout one that seems to have to put convenient but insecure by design functionality (eg register_globals, magic_quotes etc) on a long many year cycle of recommending against using it, deprecating it, turning it off by default, then finally removing it. Each of these features has left behind a trail of legacy articles and books helping unsuspecting newbies to create insecure sites.
It seems especially bad when PHP was intended to be used on the web right from the start.
I don't recall any other popular language having to back out of their own deliberate design decisions the way PHP has had to multiple times.
Hopefully that was hilarious enough for you - I'll gladly take back the word "objectively" though if you want to provide examples of other popular languages being just as bad as or worse than PHP in this respect. Maybe I just haven't been following other crappy languages closely enough.
Ruby? Don't you mean Rails? That wasn't a problem with the Ruby itself. Just like Wordpress bugs are not PHP bugs. I'm deliberately not including application bugs - the track record PHP apps have would make PHPs record look even worse.
And wasn't that massive Rails security hole (assuming you're talking about that autopopulation of variables from user input misfeature) the kind of misfeature that PHP pioneered and baked into its core language?
You can't really compare Java applet sandboxing problems either - PHP has no sandboxing of untrusted code or anything comparable at all (what a train wreck that would be). A better comparison is: how is Java's security record as a web server compared to PHPs?
PHP is relatively unique in the way they've had so many security problems that were badly designed language features rather than just implementation mistakes.
PHP has been objectively worse than practically every other language. Yet you still get people who just can't see the difference in scale/scope, and whine "but but other languages have had problems too!".