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Want To Fight Allergies? Get a Dirty Dog
sciencehabit writes "A dog in the house is more than just good company. There's increasing evidence that exposure to dogs and livestock early in life can lessen the chances of infants later developing allergies and asthma. Now, researchers have traced this beneficial health effect to a microbe living in the gut. Their study, in mice, suggests that supplementing an infant's diet with the right mix of bacteria might help prevent allergies — even without a pet pooch."
I've had allergies all my life, dust and pollen. My mother HATED animals and we never had any pets.
Flash forward 20 years -- I get a dog, a little Chihuahua that lives inside my house. I'm sure his hair and dander is all over the place and I breathe it in every day. And.... my allergies are MUCH better now! I can actually breathe with both nostrils, which I never could do most of my life due to sinuses being swollen.
It makes sense. I have always said that keeping your kids in an aseptic environment is not helping them to build resistance for when they get out to the real world at some point.
Do you remember that South Park episode where the parents would get their kids with other sick kids for them to also get sick? Well, there is some truth to it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox_(South_Park)
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
...caused me to look fondly, once more, at Keks, my dog.C'mon boy, lick my hand !
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the money quote:
"Supplementation of wild-type animals with L. johnsonii protected them against both airway allergen challenge or infection with respiratory syncytial virus."
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Always had cats, dogs, horses. Plenty of exposure to everything when i was a little kid. Used to spend my days in the woods and fields with a head full of snot.
Still ended up being severely allergic to a ton of stuff. Currently have a dog and 3 cats i'm SEVERELY allergic to.
correlation doesn't equal causation.
Science and medicine just has no fucking clue. But they don't want to just come out and SAY that.
I want s ome money for guessing too. My guess is.... SHIT HAPPENS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
What TFA suggests is to get a "dirty dog" which pass on some "gut microbes" onto the human babies which, according to TFA, may help the human babies to fight allergies.
This scenario has several implications:
1. How the "gut microbes" being passed from that "dirty dog" to the human infant ?
Shit.
Specifically, dog shit.
Which means, the human infant somehow ingested some of the dog shit which contains the microbes that previously reside inside the dog's guts.
2. The transfer of a microbe from a species (dog) to another (human) may, or may not work.
It may even be very harmful.
If the microbes are of the "benign" kind, yes, it may benefit the human baby, as TFA has suggested.
But if the microbes are of the nasty kind, it may bring on transgenic diseases.
3. There may be a better and more hygienic way of boosting the human baby's immune responses --- Mother's milk.
Human babies who were fed the milk from their mothers are healthier and have better protection from many diseases. This is because, when the baby consume the milk from their mothers, they also consume beneficial microbes that were mixed in with the milk.
In conclusion - it is better to have your human babies to be fed mother's milk than to be fed dog shit.
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I already tried this, but all that happened was that Snoop stole my weed and banged my wife. Didn't really help my allergies at all.
Monstar L
To Congress, make haste!
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
so cats turn you into lemmings with their gut bacteria, and dogs make it so you can breathe normal with theirs. yay dogs!
I already learned this from George Carlin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
I'm expecting the next Slashdot headline to read "Will the Sun come up tomorrow? Probably."
That I'm right, and you don't like it, doesn't mean I'm a troll.
A Finnish friend of mine told me when kids there reach the age of 2, during summer holidays, they take them to the countryside and get them to play naked in dirt and mud on purpose, to build up their immune system.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Please.
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My wife was brought up on a farm, they had pet cats and dogs she had horses and now later in life she has developed severe asthma and dogs and cats effect her really badly. She has also developed bad allergies to preservatives in food and now has to carry an epipen in case of anaphylaxis.
My father loves animals so for my entire childhood I was surrounded by animals. It was almost as if I was living on a farm. We had dogs, cats, pigeons, sometimes rabbits, a parrot... and I am now 37 and I have a lot of allergies. I got most of them while I was at the university and I was not living with my parents then. Maybe I should have adopted a stray dog.
ba-doom-ba!
I do remember that episode, although it's nowhere near as memorable as the "Proper Condom Use" episode, the other benefit of exposing kids to dogs ;)
A lot of research has been done where hookworms are used to treat allergies. The main concept being that a modern immune system is bored without an enemy to attack and then attacks innocent cells.
Say the body is America and the immune system is America's defence force. The immune system is needed when dangerous pathogens appear, in the same way that American troops are needed to defend against enemies. If America is in no war and all its troops are recalled without downsizing the military, these troops will get bored and start identifying innocent people as enemies. It might shoot down a trainee pilot from Canada when entering American air space. This plane falls on a city and damages property or may start a fire in America. In the same way, the immune system may become bored when there are very few pathogen and starts attacking molecules that are not dangerous. Just as the defence force can be trained to identify russian fighter aircraft on a radar, so the immune system can be trained to identify pathogens correctly by means of vaccinations. In the extreme case, the defence force might attack the poor Canadian with an atomic bomb so big it destroys the whole continent. In the same way an allergic reaction can kill the person.
Now in Helminthic Therapy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy, the hookworms are used as a perpetual enemy in the same way that America might used Afghanistan/Vietnam/Iraq. This causes a constant drain of blood, but when controlled, it may improve the health of the body overall.
Dogs are carriers of hookworms and the benefits of hookworms and allergies has been known for a long time, so in my opinion, this article is old news.
We had a dog in the house until I was about 8 or 9, but I had such severe dust and pollen allergies that I once spent a week in an oxygen tent and then went through weekly allergy therapy shots for several years. I had a window air conditioner in my bedroom on recirculate during the warm weather months to keep the air semi-filtered (this was in the early 1970s before the advent of HEPA filtration devices).
We couldn't even have a real Christmas tree or wreath in the house. We had one early on and I was super sick until my parents realized that it made me sick and we had to ditch the tree AND the wreath right before Christmas.
Born and raised a NZ farmers son I have been allergic (pollen) and suffered from asthma (allergic not chronic) all my life. I grew up surrounded by dirty dogs and more sheep and cattle than most people will ever see in a whole lifetime.
Did the fact that precautions were not taken with farm chemicals back then have something to do with the allergy. I have been exposed to DDT, pesticides, feretilizers, you name it.
So OK maybe this works in a city environnement with kids that live in a modern hyper clean envirronment and who eat agro-industry cr@p er sorry food. Didn't work for this farmers son.
realkiwi
I was allergic to cats. I got one. It's much better now. Simple logic. When I was a kid, we traded drinks between 5-6 of us, played in the dirt, went for a whole afternoon without washing our hands. People didn't use hand sanitizers. We weren't always sick either.
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
Humans and dogs have a symbiotic relationship after +20K of living together.
In Soviet Russia, dogs are allergic to you.
Also in my house.
Recently found out some of the allergens that my constantly irritate my dog, a list which includes cat and human dander.
I am not a crackpot.
Some allergies don't depend on environmental factors.
Take me, for example. A couple of years of my childhood I spent some time after school each day on a farm. That included the occasional playing and jumping in the hay. It didn't happen every day, week, or even every month, but it happened and it was damn fun (but really dangerous). Then comes puberty and figuratively from one day to another I developed "hay-fever" and pollen allergies (mainly for grass).
Anecdotal and small sample size and all that, but I really don't think overexposure to grass was the reason, because I wasn't really exposed to it that much. But the exposure I had certainly didn't help me, I developed allergies to it anyway.
What I'm trying to say is that environmental factors, like having a dog, doesn't always play a roll, sometimes there are other factors that makes you develop allergies (genetics, mostly). While having a dog may help, I would get one (or rather, a couple of cats) more for reason that it's good for my kid for other reasons (learning empathy, the natural cycle of life, not hitting people or animals in the head with a spoon, and a damn good company).
/ The Arrow
"How lovely you are. So lovely in my straightjacket..." - Nny
Eat poop.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Sucks that you were surrounded by smokers growing up. Me too and maybe that is the reason for my severe allergies.
However, read this:
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/07/23/original-aom-comic-2-theodore-roosevelt-ill-make-my-body/
We had three large dogs when our daughter was born. The dogs lived inside and were well socialized, and daughter became just another member of the pack. Although this is only one data point, it's interesting that she has no allergies (I have severe allergies to pollen and cats) and was hardly ever sick. We put it down to her immune system getting exercised at an early age.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
> Their study, in mice, suggests that supplementing an infant's diet with the right mix of bacteria might help prevent allergies — even without a pet pooch.
A part of me says don't take pills, go out and get a dog. There are enough of them who need homes. And then there's another part of me that says, if you're getting a dog just to prevent allergies, maybe you should take the pill instead.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
So by not living in a hyper clean environment as kids and by developing a proper immune system that is capable of fighting off allergies, bacteria and viruses we might be healthier as adults! This is radical, I can't believe no one put two and two together until now. That isn't to say you should live in a biohazard but honestly it's pretty obvious that we need to introduce children the real world so they can develop a proper immune system to being with.
Our family had a dog when I was growing up but no cats, I now have no allergies associated with dogs but have the highest rated allergy (according to the clinic I was tested at) towards cats. It takes less than a minute of exposure to a cat before my eyes and nose start running and I have difficulty breathing.
The results are clear: Cats = Evil.
now I can watch, again, as people pay for nutritional supplements instead of just getting a dog. I love it when people spend hard-earned money specifically to avoid an enjoyable lifestyle. Live it up robot. Enjoy your more productive work life. Again. It's totally wasted on you.
... is that I can tell my wife it would be bad for my health when she asks me to wash our dog? :-D
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
Don't know whether this can solve allergy from hair color.
I lived with nature in my younger days, still got hair color allergy when I turned 40.
Many allergies are chemical induced I think. Bacteria and pets may not help there.
And terrible allergies. I'm not sure how this study changes that fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy
Basically our culture tries to keep everything too clean. Some stuff to fight is good for our immune system. Too bad Canada's medical establishment is still holding up the availability of this; I have a friend with Crohn's who could really use this.
"Bang Goes the Theory" had an episode where one of the hosts, with bad allergies, took pig whipworm eggs and within a few weeks he was much more tolerant to dust.
I got some nasty hay fever and nowadays I get spring time tree pollen allergies too. Have had dogs since the 80's and cats since the 90's. I know it is anecdotal evidence but whatever. I put it out there as a counter point of data. And yes, the dogs were dirty! Shaggy long haired beasts who played in our forested ravine.
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Raw Milk reduces allergies in children. It also boosts the immune system so you get far fewer colds and flu than otherwise.
sadly this didnt work in my case -had a dog or dogs growing up my whole life, raised on 100s of acres of Texas cattle ranch, had feet like a Native Indian from running around barefoot in warmer months, got completely buried in farm dirt, mud and bodily fluids of several species of livestock. By HS has seasonal rhinitius that occurs on and off year round. Only real relieve is cortiosteriods injected into the sinuses. Even failed basic allergy testing by allergy doc at 25 funny thing was week before test nasty sinus headaches and week after failed reaction tests the idea of drillng a hole in my head to ease the sinus head pressure sounded like a doable solution.
That said I when I was waiting tables I only got sick maybe once a year and I felt it was because the staff got every cold running around town hit the staff and it certainly wasnt from lack of drinking after work followed by a double shift the next day on next to no sleep and from my healthy diet of booze, soda, and junk food. Why you ask because the public has no problem going out when they are sick and exposing the restaurant to their cold germs.
And get the dog cuz its healthier for both dog gets a steady source of food and you get dogs love that alone is worth the cost of feed and if it eases your kiddeos suffering call it a bonus
Any pet that impinges on your immune system is going to have long term positive influence! ;)
Oh... dirty children fit that bill as well
YMMV