Sure, why not? ZFS is - as far as we are today - the be all and end all of filesystems.
The GPL has important features which are there for good reasons and which are obviously supported by the Linux community
Indeed - "supported by the Linux community"... which not everyone cares about. Sorry to burst your balloon, but Linux is still a minority player and in no position to dictate terms. I suspect Sun would truck right on if the Linux "community" didn't adopt ZFS. A great deal of people consider the GPL viral and bad for what they do. Let me say this again - it is LINUX people playing licensing games - not anyone else. It's not your ball, so you don't have the right to take it home when you get upset.
If Sun is serious about wanting to see ZFS be taken up, they are going to have to license it accordingly.
Absolutely right. Who do they want to see it taken up by, though? And whose terms are they entitles to see this happen, if it happens?
Love to see the stills of a simple 20 mile per hour crash, let alone higher. A four wheel drive would literally drive right through it without slowing at a guess.
Then we should get the 4x4s off the road.
Or, just get a huge JCB/Lorry/Truck/Juggernaut type vehicle to crush the SUVs. Bigger is better, eh?
As a manager now, I would fire anyone who uses stored procedures. Even if it is "faster."
And you'd get sued shortly thereafter for unfair dismissal... some manager you are proving yourself to be! A more pragmatic person in a management position would know that you use the right tool for the right job.
There are plenty of good reasons to use stored procedures in a database - they simply wouldn't exist in every serious database if they were not useful. Speed isn't the only reason to use a stored procedure, they can also make some inter-application integration much easier and allow someone in control of the data model to abstract the data collection routines from the underlying data structure - which can be very, very useful. I don't want some Java programmer thinking he knows the best way to get at data in Oracle - using a stored procedure to pass complex data structures back allows tweaking of the select statements, indexes etc... without any testing required of the app layer.
Building a sedan, the entire factory is set and ready to start mass production. Client shows up: "guys, good news, we're making this a truck! Cool huh!?"
Well, try refusing to implement a feature in some in-the-scheme-of-things unimportant software and you'll find yourself without a job to be "only doing".
Kinda different if you were being asked to implement features which were in breach of law - but this isn't kinda different like that.
Since I work in this industry, I know it's the industry with the most terrible feature creep of all
Sorry, but you'd need either more experience in a lot of other industries to base that against, or have read a detailed study (which wouldn't need you to have any experience in any industry) - either way, just working in one industry (or two, or three) does not qualify you to make that statement.
And anyway, feature creep is only that if the feature was not part of the initial spec - which it might well have been. In fact, I'd lay money on it. Feature creep, you know, is generally regarded as the number of features/requirements which get raised after the initial sign-off.
I can literally hear the devs arguing this idea is insane, but their boss insisting on being implemented.
Really? Literally, actually hear them? Unless you work there, they must be screaming pretty loudly!
Seriously though, any developer should not be screaming about this - it's a functional issue with this site, not a technical one. Their boss might "insist" on this being implemented, because it was in the signed off functional spec. which the developer is paid to implement.
Since, you are in Risk Management you probably deal with 3rd party auditors who may interpret the regulations differently then you do.
I do - and who pays the auditors? Reality of business is that if your auditor wants repeat business, they need to understand how you operate - and that means you choose auditors who think the same as you. SOX is vague, indeed - so a decent Risk practicioner will use this to their advantage to do less, and argue they didn't need to do more. A bad practicioner will try to cover every base, and fail... or if they manage to succeed, they're spending far too much doing it!
The fact of the matter is, things like GLBA and SOX force IT departments to take these kinds of drastic measures whether we like it or not.
[Disclaimer: I do risk and reg for a living]
Bull. Sarbanes Oxley says nothing of the sort. If you think it does, go read the regs. I don't believe you are intentionally lying, I just think you are misinformed and have no idea what you are talking about.
'A lot of programs use the "or latest version" anyway so changing this to "GPL latest version" ' yeah right, I trust a program where 'latest version' maybe the property of all the files created by the program....(who knows with Stallman) you trust you life on it ? me not....
Now, I am not the biggest fan of the GPL by any means - but this is just simple dual licensing as far as I can see. You could choose to use the software under the terms of the license you wish (i.e. GPL-2) rather than the "latest version" which dictates you surrender your first born.
If you own it, it is "part of you" and you control it.
There are definitely parts of me that I can't control!!
I understand your point - but I don't think what you say is true. I own many things which I do not control. A government can do the very same. They may specifically not attempt to control something they own, such as a media outlet.
Finland, the #1 country, actually has strong government-controlled media (with government radio making up 61% of listening time).
Finland is joint first - out of the group of 4 they are first alphabetically. But I do believe the others have significant state owned media. But, just because a media outlet is state owned does not mean it is state controlled.
RTE (Ireland), for example, does not have its editorial stance dictated by the government currently in power.
It would make a lot of sense for Oracle to produce a complete dedicated package that didn't require an OS already be installed. Most Oracle database systems are dedicated machines anyway, so having the entire package supported by a single vendor instead does make a lot of sense. No more Database vendor blaming the OS vendor:)
Funnily enough, Oracle did this with the Oracle Appliance for 8i and 9i. They never made an Oracle 10g appliance. It was exactly as you outline above - it's a preconfigured software stack to run Oracle. Everything already set up in a basic form. Made life very easy when needing to test a DB agnostic app against Oracle.
Oracle have since removed reference to it from their site.
Seriously, I view remote apps as dangerous and uncontrollable. I don't have an IT staff, or a local webserver. I'm on my laptop most of the time, and (around me) there are precious few places I can get on the 'net when I'm out of the office
Luckily for me,.Mac gives me the best of both worlds. I can get to my calendar through the.Mac web site and I can also get at it offline using iCal from my laptop.
Surely there's something similar for other operating systems?
There exists several legitimate ways to keep your web content out of google's indexes. They respect all of the following methods. Google even has a page titled "Google information for webmasters" which documents most of these. On what grounds does one have to sue?
* E-mail header that prevent google groups from archiving your message: "X-No-Archive: Yes". * Meta tags: * Hyperlinks * robots.txt file with proper syntax * Google's link removal page: http://www.google.com/webmasters/remove.html
Just because they offer a method of telling their robot not to do something, doesn't mean it is OK that it is doing it in the first place.
would it be OK for me to post a leter to everyone in my apartment block asking them to reply if they don't want me to break in to their home and take all their stuf. If they don't reply, I'm doing nothing illegal by breaking in and taking it all, right?
This is simply a manager telling others off that they can not miss deadlines. It happens all the time in any business. Difference is, that Linux development is in the open.
Except of course, that it's not. Linus seems to be getting pissed off that people are getting their work in *just before* the deadline, not actually missing it. If your manager told you off for submitting your work shortly before your deadline, you'd be pretty pissed off about it.
If the 2 week window is too long, then shorten it. But don't bitch off about people who are playing by the rules.
2. We get paid for the full development cycle, and no pressure to get it done on time, or even close.
Get real! No pressure to get it done on time? What other engineering discipline would this be acceptable in? None. "Sorry sir, your bridge is not built yet - but we don't feel pressured to complete it in the timeframe we said we could do it in".
3. If the Specs for the application never changes from the writen specs of the application before it is written.
The world changes. Deal with it. Or be unemployed. Requirements change, just a fact of life.
4. We are not responcible for any flaws that happen in old versions when there is a newer version out there.
What?! So, never retro-fix a serious security flaw into a product just because a newer version exists? So, in your world you would just give your customer the one fingured salute and tell them to upgrade? You'll find yourself without a customer.
5. The Latest version of the Application is younger then 3 months.
I have no idea what you mean by this. Are you saying you would not take responsibilty for anything you produced which is older than 3 months?!
6. The application went threw full debugging and testing for 2 years with at least 10 people per line of code.
This is engineering. There is an acceptable level of failure.
7. The application doesn't try to keep compatibility with an older system.
Fantastic! I'll just tell the Bank who consult with me that they need to upgrade every system they have becasue our new application doesn't like talking to anything which is not 0 day. I can see that going down well.
8. Is used on hardware the specs were approved in and were created before the release of the application.
Yep, valid point. This should always be the case. Although now you can't beef up the servers in case of performance problems, even though this is the cheapest way to do it.
I think that's the grandparent's point -- every phone. In many (most?) households, that may be two, three, four phones in a single house in any number of places: Kitchen area, a family/rec room/, basement, bedrooms...
Much easier to turn one off than four.
Am I missing something? Just leave one of the phones in your house off the hook. Voila... nobody can get through.
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Sure, why not? ZFS is - as far as we are today - the be all and end all of filesystems. Indeed - "supported by the Linux community"
Absolutely right. Who do they want to see it taken up by, though? And whose terms are they entitles to see this happen, if it happens?
Or, just get a huge JCB/Lorry/Truck/Juggernaut type vehicle to crush the SUVs. Bigger is better, eh?
D.
Would you believe it, most places in the world are not in any of the states within the USA!
Try firing an employee without a previous written warning anywhere in the EU and you'll find yourself in a spot of trouble.
And you'd get sued shortly thereafter for unfair dismissal
There are plenty of good reasons to use stored procedures in a database - they simply wouldn't exist in every serious database if they were not useful. Speed isn't the only reason to use a stored procedure, they can also make some inter-application integration much easier and allow someone in control of the data model to abstract the data collection routines from the underlying data structure - which can be very, very useful. I don't want some Java programmer thinking he knows the best way to get at data in Oracle - using a stored procedure to pass complex data structures back allows tweaking of the select statements, indexes etc... without any testing required of the app layer.
D.
Kinda different if you were being asked to implement features which were in breach of law - but this isn't kinda different like that.
And anyway, feature creep is only that if the feature was not part of the initial spec - which it might well have been. In fact, I'd lay money on it. Feature creep, you know, is generally regarded as the number of features/requirements which get raised after the initial sign-off.
Seriously though, any developer should not be screaming about this - it's a functional issue with this site, not a technical one. Their boss might "insist" on this being implemented, because it was in the signed off functional spec. which the developer is paid to implement.
D.
I do - and who pays the auditors? Reality of business is that if your auditor wants repeat business, they need to understand how you operate - and that means you choose auditors who think the same as you. SOX is vague, indeed - so a decent Risk practicioner will use this to their advantage to do less, and argue they didn't need to do more. A bad practicioner will try to cover every base, and fail... or if they manage to succeed, they're spending far too much doing it!
[Disclaimer: I do risk and reg for a living]
Bull. Sarbanes Oxley says nothing of the sort. If you think it does, go read the regs. I don't believe you are intentionally lying, I just think you are misinformed and have no idea what you are talking about.
There are definitely parts of me that I can't control!!
I understand your point - but I don't think what you say is true. I own many things which I do not control. A government can do the very same. They may specifically not attempt to control something they own, such as a media outlet.
Finland is joint first - out of the group of 4 they are first alphabetically. But I do believe the others have significant state owned media. But, just because a media outlet is state owned does not mean it is state controlled.
RTE (Ireland), for example, does not have its editorial stance dictated by the government currently in power.
Whoever said there's is, or was ever a right to free speech in the UK? (where this is all taking place)
Has Netcraft weighed in on this yet?
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Oracle have since removed reference to it from their site.
Surely there's something similar for other operating systems?
would it be OK for me to post a leter to everyone in my apartment block asking them to reply if they don't want me to break in to their home and take all their stuf. If they don't reply, I'm doing nothing illegal by breaking in and taking it all, right?
From reading the headline, I thought this was something to do with Oracle updating Pro*C to do C# :)
If the 2 week window is too long, then shorten it. But don't bitch off about people who are playing by the rules.
Get real! No pressure to get it done on time? What other engineering discipline would this be acceptable in? None. "Sorry sir, your bridge is not built yet - but we don't feel pressured to complete it in the timeframe we said we could do it in".
The world changes. Deal with it. Or be unemployed. Requirements change, just a fact of life.
What?! So, never retro-fix a serious security flaw into a product just because a newer version exists? So, in your world you would just give your customer the one fingured salute and tell them to upgrade? You'll find yourself without a customer.
I have no idea what you mean by this. Are you saying you would not take responsibilty for anything you produced which is older than 3 months?!
This is engineering. There is an acceptable level of failure.
Fantastic! I'll just tell the Bank who consult with me that they need to upgrade every system they have becasue our new application doesn't like talking to anything which is not 0 day. I can see that going down well.
Yep, valid point. This should always be the case. Although now you can't beef up the servers in case of performance problems, even though this is the cheapest way to do it.
Now you're just making me laugh!!