The purpose I see for Mojolicious is to provide an alternative to PHP, not Ruby, Python, etc.. If we can get people to use Mojolicious over PHP then when their project becomes a big deal it's easier to manage and maintain.
Sounds like you haven't touched Rails in 10 years. It handles unicode extremely well now, arguably better than any other framework out there,
I invite you to consult Unicode: Good, Bad, Ugly and then make that statement again. Full disclosure: Yes, it was written by a Perl guy, but I've not seen any dispute about the facts.
When one brings it up has no bearing - it's opinion, it's truth, it should be said. There is no such thing as a bad time to have an opinion. There's no reason to be nice to someone just because he's recently dead.
Being nice just for the sake of propriety is a terrible drain on society. Be real, always.
As for me, and to stay on topic, I never much liked Jobs or any of his company's products in the last 15 years. I have a great deal of admiration for him, however, for the things he figured out and for having the drive to make what he wanted happen. When combined with a limited ability to have his way and a team of strongly competent people amazing things frequently resulted. Apple won't be the same without him and nothing and no one else will be replace him. A unique individual, his force of personality was awesome to behold whether you agreed with anything he said or not.
I simply don't care whether Zoocasa is operating legally or not, making money or not. I'm interested in results.
Thought experiment: What if Zoocasa asked for permission to relist the listings and was denied. What if Century21 routinely denies all such requests? At that point I want someone to list them anyway, no matter the terms of use, because that's what's good for me. The free-market argument that by doing this eventually Century21 loses business is bogus because houses are not commodities. Exclusive contracts for listings are anti-consumer bullshit.
More technically, if I write a screen-scraper which sucks up the listings from various places and aggregates them into a format convenient to me... and I use it for myself and never sell or share it, is that copyright infringement? The law would say it's just as illegal as this, but I disagree with that very stongly. Century21 can put the content out there but they have no right to control its presentation. And if I can alter the presentation for myself then another person can do it and provide me that aggeregation service, so therefore damn the legalities and full speed ahead.
Too bad. I, as a buyer, don't care what Century21 wants. Services like Zoocasa provide value to me. If Century21 doesn't get metrics and I don't follow the process they prefer, tough cookies.
I don't have a citation, but it's simple logic and common sense. Not every store-site is going to act that way on every occasion, but their reliability is certainly subject to legitimate suspicion. I don't trust their neutrality, because they aren't neutral, and while we could go ten rounds on the question of "When would it be more profitable? When would it seem like a good idea? What are their disincentives?" the actual answers aren't so important as the fact that they can be asked.
User reviews are useless at places like Amazon. Amazon wants you to buy things, so they have a vested interest in putting high-ranked reviews up front.
User reviews on third party sites are almost useless: you have to specifically go to them and spend a possibly high amount of effort to locate the product you want to buy, and then you have little assurance that you're looking at reviews for the Frobmaster 9000 QRZ-3, which will get you laid every night, and not the Frobmaster 9000 QRT-3, which will explode in your face and kill you.
Reviews are moderation. Moderation is reputation. If reputation has value then those in whose economic interest it is for the reputation to be high will artificially inflate that value by moderating upwards. Putting all reviews in a central place just makes this easier, it doesn't add value.
I understand the frustration with losing the thoughtful output of your creative mind. I recommend that you
1) Start a blog,
2) Post all of your reviews to this blog,
3) Link from the blog back to whatever you're reviewing.
Perhaps you can define or adopt a nice XML/JSON format for concisely associating a URL with your rating. Now you have searchable reviews linked to products/services/whatever which are under your control. Doing anything else is madness.
But what's the problem with using cat here? It's not necessary, but it doesn't harm either, does it?
In fact it does do harm. Not even counting tangentials like "it encourages people to do this reflexively so they will get bitten when the difference really matters", it execs one more program and uses a good chunk more memory.
Maintainable code means code that is easy to change. Which speaks for cat.
I dispute that "cat foo | grep bar" is easier to change than "grep bar BTW, I've even found uses for the apparently useless use of cat in cat | command or command | cat (note: no filename on the cat!). That's when using programs which test whether standard input or standard output is a terminal, and I want the non-terminal behaviour even though I'm typing in a terminal.
In such a case it's both "not useless" and "being used interactively," where it probably matters less.
There's nothing in it that fundamentally requires bash, you just need a shell which supports arrays. It might not perform as well, however, without some of the bashisms. I'd say porting this will be of minimal effort.
Hacking around on the command line is one thing. Writing examples is another. When you save your code for long-term re-use or reference purposes it should be well written.
This isn't what Linux users are expected to do, this is what *benchmarkers* should be doing in order to correctly benchmark the kernel.
Even on Windows it's perfectly common to close background tasks, web browsers, etc.. to eke out better gaming performance for when it really matters. You can just go a lot further, and be a lot more specific, under Linux.
If you want to claim "BSD faster than Linux" then it makes sense to turn off all the things which are not "BSD" and are not "Linux" and could impact the results. The title should be "PC-BSD's default install has fewer background processes eating your CPU, RAM and disk throughput than Ubuntu does!" aka "No shit, Sherlock."
Plenty of honest-to-goodness "poor" people own cars and for a lot of these people dumping the car would cut fuel costs but also remove access to work, which is a net negative.
So take your high horse and go elsewhere. Not everybody lives in a city. Not all cares are expensive to own.
Apple and Jobs always wanted DRM-free music and did it as soon as they could. But they were only able to do so after the music industry got tired of Apple owning the market of iPod owners and started demanding that DRM be removed.
- Apple wants an online music store.
- Music owners agree, but insist on DRM
- Apple goes with it, iTMS is born
- Apple tightly ties iTMS with iPod.
- Everyone buys an iPod, uses iTMS
- Music owners want more control over pricing and so forth
- Apply says "No, it's our way or the highway"
- Music owners say "Well fine, we'll start our own music stores with blackjack and hookers!"
- Music owners realize that any DRM'd tracks they sell won't be playable on the iPod, the single most popular music player
- A series of competitors to the iPod/iTMS duopoly try to replace it by selling different DRM-supporting players and DRM'd music
- Nobody buys from the competitors
- Music owners start selling non-DRM'd tracks outside of the iTMS.
- Once it's proven successfull, DRM pretty much goes away everywhere overnight
So, basically, the music industry built Apple's power base by requiring DRM and thus locking out iPod competitors. Once they realized they'd created a monster and weren't making as much money as they could, they killed DRM to regain some control.
Even with that going on you got really good discourse on big stories. No matter the topic experts in it would chime in and supply data, interpretation, etc.. It was just a matter of wading through some muck.
The only place where I find consistent high quality comments any more is lwn,
I didn't mean this post to be about Slashdot though, but about my friend Rob.
It's hard to talk about CmdrTaco without talking about Slashdot, and vice versa. I was trying to explain to some of my less-nerdy and (let's face it) younger co-workers just what this all means, and I kept doing the same thing. Where does the site end and the man begin? I guess we find out, now.
After the news about Steve Jobs I really had to check and double-check the date on this. Not April 1st?
Okay, okay... I think I believe it.
CmdrTaco, thanks a lot. I've spent a ridiculous amount of my formative years reading slashdot. It got me into Linux, Geeks In Space specifically got me in to Debian. Without Slashdot I'd be half the man I am today, easily.
Servers can be bought off the shelf and Linux is pretty secure. The point is how much hardware and software could a group of geeks provide for 10 billion that would be state of the art and possibly better than state of the art on the software side?
The problem is that you aren't allowed to do "pretty secure" - you have to lock down everything to the point where it doesn't even work, then write detailed justifications for every change that you need in order to use the system.
It's the bloated military contractor system that is keeping them in the stone age and throwing a few hundred billion at their current suppliers will change nothing.
This is a huge part of the problem. Even if you want to do things better you are often explicitly or implicitly forbidden from doing so by law, regulation or corporate policy.
I don't think we are in disagreement. My point was that *even with* consumer prices for writable media the optical disc is a winner when it comes to price for storage.
I suspect bulk-pressed optical discs (as opposed to writable media) are still considerably cheaper - and faster to manufacture - than 8GB+ memory cards.
The cost of a ~25G optical disk is an order of magnitude less than the cost of 25G of flash media.
Run this experiment. Go out and find the price of (say) a 16G SD card or USB flash drive. Pick the cheapest you can find.
Now go find the price of a single blank blu-ray disc (or a pack and divide by the number in the pack).
I found a stack of blu-ray discs available at 25 for 30USD. $1.2 dollars apiece, or 4.8 cents per gigabyte. Not bad.
The cheapest 16G USB flash drive available on newegg that I could find was 20SD. That's $1.25 per gigabyte. The price of an SD card is similar.
Why pay 250 times the price for less capacity?
That's before we even talk about how much easier homebrew becomes.
Slashdot Mirror
This a thousand times.
The purpose I see for Mojolicious is to provide an alternative to PHP, not Ruby, Python, etc.. If we can get people to use Mojolicious over PHP then when their project becomes a big deal it's easier to manage and maintain.
Sounds like you haven't touched Rails in 10 years. It handles unicode extremely well now, arguably better than any other framework out there,
I invite you to consult Unicode: Good, Bad, Ugly and then make that statement again. Full disclosure: Yes, it was written by a Perl guy, but I've not seen any dispute about the facts.
Microsoft is also not likely to disclose every security breach; they gain nothing by doing so and it harms their image.
When one brings it up has no bearing - it's opinion, it's truth, it should be said. There is no such thing as a bad time to have an opinion. There's no reason to be nice to someone just because he's recently dead.
Being nice just for the sake of propriety is a terrible drain on society. Be real, always.
As for me, and to stay on topic, I never much liked Jobs or any of his company's products in the last 15 years. I have a great deal of admiration for him, however, for the things he figured out and for having the drive to make what he wanted happen. When combined with a limited ability to have his way and a team of strongly competent people amazing things frequently resulted. Apple won't be the same without him and nothing and no one else will be replace him. A unique individual, his force of personality was awesome to behold whether you agreed with anything he said or not.
He was still an asshole.
I simply don't care whether Zoocasa is operating legally or not, making money or not. I'm interested in results.
Thought experiment: What if Zoocasa asked for permission to relist the listings and was denied. What if Century21 routinely denies all such requests? At that point I want someone to list them anyway, no matter the terms of use, because that's what's good for me. The free-market argument that by doing this eventually Century21 loses business is bogus because houses are not commodities. Exclusive contracts for listings are anti-consumer bullshit.
More technically, if I write a screen-scraper which sucks up the listings from various places and aggregates them into a format convenient to me... and I use it for myself and never sell or share it, is that copyright infringement? The law would say it's just as illegal as this, but I disagree with that very stongly. Century21 can put the content out there but they have no right to control its presentation. And if I can alter the presentation for myself then another person can do it and provide me that aggeregation service, so therefore damn the legalities and full speed ahead.
Too bad. I, as a buyer, don't care what Century21 wants. Services like Zoocasa provide value to me. If Century21 doesn't get metrics and I don't follow the process they prefer, tough cookies.
I don't have a citation, but it's simple logic and common sense. Not every store-site is going to act that way on every occasion, but their reliability is certainly subject to legitimate suspicion. I don't trust their neutrality, because they aren't neutral, and while we could go ten rounds on the question of "When would it be more profitable? When would it seem like a good idea? What are their disincentives?" the actual answers aren't so important as the fact that they can be asked.
User reviews are useless at places like Amazon. Amazon wants you to buy things, so they have a vested interest in putting high-ranked reviews up front.
User reviews on third party sites are almost useless: you have to specifically go to them and spend a possibly high amount of effort to locate the product you want to buy, and then you have little assurance that you're looking at reviews for the Frobmaster 9000 QRZ-3, which will get you laid every night, and not the Frobmaster 9000 QRT-3, which will explode in your face and kill you.
Reviews are moderation. Moderation is reputation. If reputation has value then those in whose economic interest it is for the reputation to be high will artificially inflate that value by moderating upwards. Putting all reviews in a central place just makes this easier, it doesn't add value.
I understand the frustration with losing the thoughtful output of your creative mind. I recommend that you
1) Start a blog,
2) Post all of your reviews to this blog,
3) Link from the blog back to whatever you're reviewing.
Perhaps you can define or adopt a nice XML/JSON format for concisely associating a URL with your rating. Now you have searchable reviews linked to products/services/whatever which are under your control. Doing anything else is madness.
But what's the problem with using cat here? It's not necessary, but it doesn't harm either, does it?
In fact it does do harm. Not even counting tangentials like "it encourages people to do this reflexively so they will get bitten when the difference really matters", it execs one more program and uses a good chunk more memory.
Maintainable code means code that is easy to change. Which speaks for cat.
I dispute that "cat foo | grep bar" is easier to change than "grep bar BTW, I've even found uses for the apparently useless use of cat in cat | command or command | cat (note: no filename on the cat!). That's when using programs which test whether standard input or standard output is a terminal, and I want the non-terminal behaviour even though I'm typing in a terminal.
In such a case it's both "not useless" and "being used interactively," where it probably matters less.
Let's rephrase this.
"We've released an EXCLUSIVE Pirate Bay edition of our game with custom skins !"
Now do you want it?
Perhaps I should reiterate: It's the SAME game. The same. Only some visuals are different.
There's nothing in it that fundamentally requires bash, you just need a shell which supports arrays. It might not perform as well, however, without some of the bashisms. I'd say porting this will be of minimal effort.
Hacking around on the command line is one thing. Writing examples is another. When you save your code for long-term re-use or reference purposes it should be well written.
This isn't what Linux users are expected to do, this is what *benchmarkers* should be doing in order to correctly benchmark the kernel.
Even on Windows it's perfectly common to close background tasks, web browsers, etc.. to eke out better gaming performance for when it really matters. You can just go a lot further, and be a lot more specific, under Linux.
If you want to claim "BSD faster than Linux" then it makes sense to turn off all the things which are not "BSD" and are not "Linux" and could impact the results. The title should be "PC-BSD's default install has fewer background processes eating your CPU, RAM and disk throughput than Ubuntu does!" aka "No shit, Sherlock."
Plenty of honest-to-goodness "poor" people own cars and for a lot of these people dumping the car would cut fuel costs but also remove access to work, which is a net negative.
So take your high horse and go elsewhere. Not everybody lives in a city. Not all cares are expensive to own.
Apple and Jobs always wanted DRM-free music and did it as soon as they could. But they were only able to do so after the music industry got tired of Apple owning the market of iPod owners and started demanding that DRM be removed.
The timeline goes like thids
- Apple wants an online music store.
- Music owners agree, but insist on DRM
- Apple goes with it, iTMS is born
- Apple tightly ties iTMS with iPod.
- Everyone buys an iPod, uses iTMS
- Music owners want more control over pricing and so forth
- Apply says "No, it's our way or the highway"
- Music owners say "Well fine, we'll start our own music stores with blackjack and hookers!"
- Music owners realize that any DRM'd tracks they sell won't be playable on the iPod, the single most popular music player
- A series of competitors to the iPod/iTMS duopoly try to replace it by selling different DRM-supporting players and DRM'd music
- Nobody buys from the competitors
- Music owners start selling non-DRM'd tracks outside of the iTMS.
- Once it's proven successfull, DRM pretty much goes away everywhere overnight
So, basically, the music industry built Apple's power base by requiring DRM and thus locking out iPod competitors. Once they realized they'd created a monster and weren't making as much money as they could, they killed DRM to regain some control.
Even with that going on you got really good discourse on big stories. No matter the topic experts in it would chime in and supply data, interpretation, etc.. It was just a matter of wading through some muck.
The only place where I find consistent high quality comments any more is lwn,
Ahh, memories
OOG UPSET YOU NO MENTION OOG
OOG WELCOME NEW SLASHDOT OVERLORDS
I think the lameness filter is what drove him away. Certainly it made posting this message hard.
I didn't mean this post to be about Slashdot though, but about my friend Rob.
It's hard to talk about CmdrTaco without talking about Slashdot, and vice versa. I was trying to explain to some of my less-nerdy and (let's face it) younger co-workers just what this all means, and I kept doing the same thing. Where does the site end and the man begin? I guess we find out, now.
After the news about Steve Jobs I really had to check and double-check the date on this. Not April 1st?
Okay, okay... I think I believe it.
CmdrTaco, thanks a lot. I've spent a ridiculous amount of my formative years reading slashdot. It got me into Linux, Geeks In Space specifically got me in to Debian. Without Slashdot I'd be half the man I am today, easily.
"Wolverines" is a reference to the movie "Red Dawn" in which the USSR invades the USA.
Servers can be bought off the shelf and Linux is pretty secure. The point is how much hardware and software could a group of geeks provide for 10 billion that would be state of the art and possibly better than state of the art on the software side?
The problem is that you aren't allowed to do "pretty secure" - you have to lock down everything to the point where it doesn't even work, then write detailed justifications for every change that you need in order to use the system.
It's the bloated military contractor system that is keeping them in the stone age and throwing a few hundred billion at their current suppliers will change nothing.
This is a huge part of the problem. Even if you want to do things better you are often explicitly or implicitly forbidden from doing so by law, regulation or corporate policy.
+1 New Keyboard Needed
I don't think we are in disagreement. My point was that *even with* consumer prices for writable media the optical disc is a winner when it comes to price for storage.
I suspect bulk-pressed optical discs (as opposed to writable media) are still considerably cheaper - and faster to manufacture - than 8GB+ memory cards.
The cost of a ~25G optical disk is an order of magnitude less than the cost of 25G of flash media.
Run this experiment. Go out and find the price of (say) a 16G SD card or USB flash drive. Pick the cheapest you can find.
Now go find the price of a single blank blu-ray disc (or a pack and divide by the number in the pack).
I found a stack of blu-ray discs available at 25 for 30USD. $1.2 dollars apiece, or 4.8 cents per gigabyte. Not bad.
The cheapest 16G USB flash drive available on newegg that I could find was 20SD. That's $1.25 per gigabyte. The price of an SD card is similar.
Why pay 250 times the price for less capacity?
That's before we even talk about how much easier homebrew becomes.