I know don't feed the trolls, but I just wanted to pass along a Happy Holidays to this one. Sheesh.
Miguel, I have the choice of running VS 2008 (full version) in VMware or running Mono to do my work. The VMWare route is a pig on resources and is basically unusable for everything but the simplest of changed. I am very much enjoying using Mono. Yes, I am/actually using Mono/ where it seems most comments up to this point are not- with their referencing older builds and so on. You know I actually use that AS3 plugin from time to time as well. Mono has come a long way since I fist tried and admittedly abandoned it.
"P.S. Yes, C# being better than Java is personal opinion."
No, it isn't. C# is better than Java in every way. Well- alright, at least the ones you carefully list. I'll add that doing things one way instead of Java's myriad of (frequently inane) implementations is very relaxing when starting out on something new or when inheriting code from someone else.
Actually they are quite good I find. Some chefs will reveal their steps, some will not (regardless of their abilities). At no time should they be compelled to do so by an agreement written on the packaging of one of the ingredients or one of the processes used to create the final product.
"When he augments the ancient recipe with the GPL'd technique of poaching eggs."
All the techniques are all out in the open as stated. And as long as the GPL/implementation for poaching eggs remains intact- the recipe can still remain private and violates no license agreement.
GWT is bad? Please elaborate. I have had 0 problems with it. No forced targeting and things seem to work from FF to Opera to Chrome- if you do it right.
Wave never once crashed on me in FF or Safari.
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Well- let's continue with the cooking metaphor. Leave the pig out it for a second.
Let's say the chicken has a great hand me down recipe from his great grand chicken. They implement that recipe and the restaurant's success is overwhelming based on that recipe. The chicken then decides to divulge everything about the technique used to create the dish- but not the actual recipe.
Why in, any environment, should the chicken be forced to reveal that recipe?
There is nothing tin foil about it. Advertising is manipulation. *I* find that offensive. So do many other people. Note the prevalence and download numbers of ad blockers. I make a concerted effort every day to avoid ads. There is no PS3 ad blocker. No choice if the user wants to be advertised to or not. Offensive. And no it's not just this title or this console.
iTunes and the store is a great heap of crap. Not being allowed to have access in to something you paid for is reprehensible.
A warranty on a car will be invalidated if you put sand in the gas tank (put bad code in to the iPhone and it fries the board- same thing). However, if you want to pop a bloody home made led light in the cig lighter or add new seats- this should be legally protected and no EULA should be able to thwart that.
It appears to me that the point being missed is on that screen over there.
"Users choose to communicate via Twitter"
You gave them that choice by signing up for an account and making information available in that fashion. If it weren't an option, users wouldn't use it. They would use a method you had chosen to implement- say, an email address or online form. Saying that they use it because they wouldn't have bothered otherwise is a speculative at best conclusion.
"Users who chose not to subscribe to RSS," which is less hassle than Twitter- which they have to have an account for, which has less room to fully communicate information... again, this is a choice as easily offered as Twitter. What if you offered them an RSS feed of just software updates... you do know that RSS doesn't need to just be for blogs? It's any well formatted XML doc which complies with the RSS spec- a node could be the entire list of code changes, bugs fixed and a link to get it.
And finally, the point is that the communication on Twitter is not as good as other better free, open and incredibly more widely used than Twitter options. Your users and your software are being shortchanged by the medium. Or maybe this goes to my point of them not really caring about it if they deal with it via Twitter?
BTW- sourceforge is a fantastic resource for keeping up to date those who are interested in your software.
I do like that the only commenting on this has been in defense of Twitter, which is still a big who cares in my book, and not much at all about the disease of internet advertising.
And email or a form online couldn't achieve this information exchange? I don't think I could do a useful bug report in 140 characters.
And you couldn't have an auto updater (apt-get, whatever) that would keep your users from being tied to yet another piece of software to get your software? RSS is another fine method of informing people in near real time of updates.
So, still, I view it as pretty useless given that there are equal and better ways of accomplishing the same tasks.
Am I really one of a rare few who find Twitter completely useless? The 'connection' of Twatter to follower is one borne of impersonal salesmanship. The Twatter doesn't feel that strong, real interpersonal relationship is worth their time yet they still want would be the reciprocal feelings of such a relationship. The follower thrives on being an enabler of those types of people. The worst (and probably most prevalent users) are the psychophants who follow only so others will follow them.
The only problem I really see here is that since there seem to be an enormous amount of people who use this service now, internet advertisers are going to have a new round of completely bogus numbers to back up that 'advertising works on the internet'. "Look, potential client who has been terrified in to believing that the internet is a huge cash cow and you aren't milking that cow so hire me because I am an expert milker, our ad for ass ring fungal remover was a steath campaign on Senator Twatting Network it has a cumulative following of over a million followers so we potentially moved over a million units!"
This means that decent content on the web will continue to be infected with this bogus logic attaching these disease ridden ads to their art because the guy who sold ass ring fungal remover to over a million people said we had to do it.
Jailbreaking which even the Woz says is cool. That opens Cydia to you which kills the app store in just about every way- including the install procedure. Apt-get = yes.
For watching video period. It's just so much better than Flash than doing this. And for the times you don't want to leave a Flash piece open in your browser to come back 5 hours later and find that the memory usage is well above a gig. and rising
You mean call it out specifically in the install of.NET, I think you may have a point there.
However, it is sad that it is needed at all, even if for acceleration purposes. It means that.NET relies on something only specifically available before in IE. Uncool. No uninstall- unforgivable. My guess is that they will fix it.
I am curious then- since tobacco in the form of mass produced smokes actually has studies and facts that say it kills you- for certain and not ONE of the studies done on pot shows the same thing- why then would the one that will kill you for certain is legal and regulated? Same with liquor- it has been shown to actually, factually intensely more addictive (leading often to abuse and finally dependency) than pot. Again- legal and regulated.
And there's a small problem with your postulate that legalization will increase consumption. That is a fallacy and cannot be proven and in fact has been suggestively countered with heroin legalization in other countries where new consumption has dropped.
Not saying that there aren't side effects, but I am saying that they are no where near what cigarettes do.
Seriously, right? And get this- I did ask their techs directly if their RTMPE format was a truly encrypted stream of data and not just the handshake- yes yes they assured me. Nice.
Remember RIA is a term THEY made up so bullshit artists could speak bullshit to one another.
Well- if one creates their own player in AS3 and do not use the overwhelmingly awful FLVPlayback component, it gets better- but still not great.
My big question here is that Apple open sourced Darwin Streaming Server a while ago and clearly their handling of different *standard* vid formats is FAR superior to Flash. They have both RTSP and a secure(SSL) version. Why the hell don't people use that?
First, PLEASE no more going forward. It's silly and makes any words after sound like... I don't know. I just tune out after I hear that. It's filler. Where else would one be going in that sentence? Are we in fact going anywhere?
Second, trying to answer your question-
1. Don't write custom code. Find some other more generic way to do it or someone that already has. Blame them when it breaks with any framework upgrade- see the horrors of Drupal upgrades.
2. Write it and write it well with documentation. I just re-read some notes on programming philosophy that I always repeat in mantra- program to the interface (or abstraction). Write it portable so the maintenance is actually in the implementation as opposed to the library. As one poster suggested- submit your lib to the repository for other to perfect and use- especially with Rails which is built on submissions like this.
3. Write it in Logo. This ensures job security if it is used. More likely they will shout and throw little turtle icons at you.
Personally, I am still in the camp of writing more internally than using libraries outside the framework core. It keeps the app unique and just buggy enough to have a job to come back to:) There are other more serious reasons such as the family aspect that self authorship bring to a team- "We did that" really makes the team feel very good at the end of the day.
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Why would any distro put itself in that position? And wouldn't the non-GPL nature of the project alone prevent that?
I know don't feed the trolls, but I just wanted to pass along a Happy Holidays to this one. Sheesh.
Miguel, I have the choice of running VS 2008 (full version) in VMware or running Mono to do my work. The VMWare route is a pig on resources and is basically unusable for everything but the simplest of changed. I am very much enjoying using Mono. Yes, I am /actually using Mono/ where it seems most comments up to this point are not- with their referencing older builds and so on. You know I actually use that AS3 plugin from time to time as well. Mono has come a long way since I fist tried and admittedly abandoned it.
I really appreciate the work.
"P.S. Yes, C# being better than Java is personal opinion."
No, it isn't. C# is better than Java in every way. Well- alright, at least the ones you carefully list. I'll add that doing things one way instead of Java's myriad of (frequently inane) implementations is very relaxing when starting out on something new or when inheriting code from someone else.
Actually they are quite good I find. Some chefs will reveal their steps, some will not (regardless of their abilities). At no time should they be compelled to do so by an agreement written on the packaging of one of the ingredients or one of the processes used to create the final product.
"When he augments the ancient recipe with the GPL'd technique of poaching eggs."
All the techniques are all out in the open as stated. And as long as the GPL/implementation for poaching eggs remains intact- the recipe can still remain private and violates no license agreement.
GWT is bad? Please elaborate. I have had 0 problems with it. No forced targeting and things seem to work from FF to Opera to Chrome- if you do it right.
Wave never once crashed on me in FF or Safari.
Well- let's continue with the cooking metaphor. Leave the pig out it for a second.
Let's say the chicken has a great hand me down recipe from his great grand chicken. They implement that recipe and the restaurant's success is overwhelming based on that recipe. The chicken then decides to divulge everything about the technique used to create the dish- but not the actual recipe.
Why in, any environment, should the chicken be forced to reveal that recipe?
There is nothing tin foil about it. Advertising is manipulation. *I* find that offensive. So do many other people. Note the prevalence and download numbers of ad blockers. I make a concerted effort every day to avoid ads. There is no PS3 ad blocker. No choice if the user wants to be advertised to or not. Offensive. And no it's not just this title or this console.
Tired. Back to work.
Was going to buy. Now not. It reminds me of double taxation- pay once and pay some more. But there is no constitution protecting us from advertisers.
Run anything you want. Get stuff from Apple Store, Cydia/Icy.
Too scared to actually own your device, ok...
There is the whole notion of using private distribution of apps.:
http://bluxte.net/musings/2009/05/17/ad-hoc-distribution-iphone-application
And installers of 3rd party apps:
http://www.mactropolis.com/iphone/how-to-install-apps-on-iphone-without-jailbraking/
iTunes and the store is a great heap of crap. Not being allowed to have access in to something you paid for is reprehensible.
A warranty on a car will be invalidated if you put sand in the gas tank (put bad code in to the iPhone and it fries the board- same thing). However, if you want to pop a bloody home made led light in the cig lighter or add new seats- this should be legally protected and no EULA should be able to thwart that.
The Pinto must have had water left over in the engine block or radiator...
No no no. There are 10 dimensions:
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php
Chuck is all 10 + 1 because... wait for it... Chuck Norris goes to 11.
It appears to me that the point being missed is on that screen over there.
"Users choose to communicate via Twitter"
You gave them that choice by signing up for an account and making information available in that fashion. If it weren't an option, users wouldn't use it. They would use a method you had chosen to implement- say, an email address or online form. Saying that they use it because they wouldn't have bothered otherwise is a speculative at best conclusion.
"Users who chose not to subscribe to RSS," which is less hassle than Twitter- which they have to have an account for, which has less room to fully communicate information... again, this is a choice as easily offered as Twitter. What if you offered them an RSS feed of just software updates... you do know that RSS doesn't need to just be for blogs? It's any well formatted XML doc which complies with the RSS spec- a node could be the entire list of code changes, bugs fixed and a link to get it.
And finally, the point is that the communication on Twitter is not as good as other better free, open and incredibly more widely used than Twitter options. Your users and your software are being shortchanged by the medium. Or maybe this goes to my point of them not really caring about it if they deal with it via Twitter?
BTW- sourceforge is a fantastic resource for keeping up to date those who are interested in your software.
I do like that the only commenting on this has been in defense of Twitter, which is still a big who cares in my book, and not much at all about the disease of internet advertising.
And email or a form online couldn't achieve this information exchange? I don't think I could do a useful bug report in 140 characters.
And you couldn't have an auto updater (apt-get, whatever) that would keep your users from being tied to yet another piece of software to get your software? RSS is another fine method of informing people in near real time of updates.
So, still, I view it as pretty useless given that there are equal and better ways of accomplishing the same tasks.
Am I really one of a rare few who find Twitter completely useless? The 'connection' of Twatter to follower is one borne of impersonal salesmanship. The Twatter doesn't feel that strong, real interpersonal relationship is worth their time yet they still want would be the reciprocal feelings of such a relationship. The follower thrives on being an enabler of those types of people. The worst (and probably most prevalent users) are the psychophants who follow only so others will follow them.
The only problem I really see here is that since there seem to be an enormous amount of people who use this service now, internet advertisers are going to have a new round of completely bogus numbers to back up that 'advertising works on the internet'. "Look, potential client who has been terrified in to believing that the internet is a huge cash cow and you aren't milking that cow so hire me because I am an expert milker, our ad for ass ring fungal remover was a steath campaign on Senator Twatting Network it has a cumulative following of over a million followers so we potentially moved over a million units!"
This means that decent content on the web will continue to be infected with this bogus logic attaching these disease ridden ads to their art because the guy who sold ass ring fungal remover to over a million people said we had to do it.
Jailbreaking which even the Woz says is cool. That opens Cydia to you which kills the app store in just about every way- including the install procedure. Apt-get = yes.
For watching video period. It's just so much better than Flash than doing this. And for the times you don't want to leave a Flash piece open in your browser to come back 5 hours later and find that the memory usage is well above a gig. and rising
Now all that said the QT plugin still beats them all for video
http://blog.vrarchitect.net/post/2008/04/18/challenge-to-the-flash-community-Quicktime-is-better-than-Flash
Demo of Orao (will resize your borwser window)
http://www.opsomai.eu/data/oraoweb/OraoWeb_200/demo1.html
Wait- we /aren't/ supposed to be running around... oh shit.
FBML is not called Shark Sandwich. The review would be easier.
You mean call it out specifically in the install of .NET, I think you may have a point there.
However, it is sad that it is needed at all, even if for acceleration purposes. It means that .NET relies on something only specifically available before in IE. Uncool. No uninstall- unforgivable. My guess is that they will fix it.
And rootkit comparisons? Jesus. Nothing close.
I am curious then- since tobacco in the form of mass produced smokes actually has studies and facts that say it kills you- for certain and not ONE of the studies done on pot shows the same thing- why then would the one that will kill you for certain is legal and regulated? Same with liquor- it has been shown to actually, factually intensely more addictive (leading often to abuse and finally dependency) than pot. Again- legal and regulated.
And there's a small problem with your postulate that legalization will increase consumption. That is a fallacy and cannot be proven and in fact has been suggestively countered with heroin legalization in other countries where new consumption has dropped.
Not saying that there aren't side effects, but I am saying that they are no where near what cigarettes do.
And didn't they just steal and seal from RTSP?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rtsp
If "Abobe" wants to do something good, they should allow their terrible payware FMS to serve up RTSP.
Seriously, right? And get this- I did ask their techs directly if their RTMPE format was a truly encrypted stream of data and not just the handshake- yes yes they assured me. Nice.
Remember RIA is a term THEY made up so bullshit artists could speak bullshit to one another.
Well- if one creates their own player in AS3 and do not use the overwhelmingly awful FLVPlayback component, it gets better- but still not great.
My big question here is that Apple open sourced Darwin Streaming Server a while ago and clearly their handling of different *standard* vid formats is FAR superior to Flash. They have both RTSP and a secure(SSL) version. Why the hell don't people use that?
First, PLEASE no more going forward. It's silly and makes any words after sound like... I don't know. I just tune out after I hear that. It's filler. Where else would one be going in that sentence? Are we in fact going anywhere?
Second, trying to answer your question-
1. Don't write custom code. Find some other more generic way to do it or someone that already has. Blame them when it breaks with any framework upgrade- see the horrors of Drupal upgrades.
2. Write it and write it well with documentation. I just re-read some notes on programming philosophy that I always repeat in mantra- program to the interface (or abstraction). Write it portable so the maintenance is actually in the implementation as opposed to the library. As one poster suggested- submit your lib to the repository for other to perfect and use- especially with Rails which is built on submissions like this.
3. Write it in Logo. This ensures job security if it is used. More likely they will shout and throw little turtle icons at you.
Personally, I am still in the camp of writing more internally than using libraries outside the framework core. It keeps the app unique and just buggy enough to have a job to come back to :) There are other more serious reasons such as the family aspect that self authorship bring to a team- "We did that" really makes the team feel very good at the end of the day.