I have not used AdBlock and have no connection with the subject. However, your attitude of ambivalence toward our fellow man's sorrows is both enlightening and sickening, and worthy of discussion. People are quite willing to mourn someone who may have been a horrible person in private. They are also willing to laud success that may not be deserved when revealed int he light of day. This memorial post on a board full of people who have been influenced by the subject is not such a case.
The memorial post was an attempt to provide a forum for meaningful mourning (and not just self-gratification through feigned interest and grief) to people who may not have known him personally but still benefited from the man's work. And while the ambivalent attitude shown by some may be fitting on/b/, one shouldn't be surprised by the shock it causes among people who actually might have been affected by this man.
Saddam played chicken with the international community. The US didn't blink and deposed him. Fallujah became a stronghold for insurgents upset that they couldn't oppress their countrymen and made Fallujah their stronghold. Local citizens couldn't or didn't kick them out, so we did it for them. We gave ample warning and tens of thousands left the targeted area. Of a city of 300,000 only 2000 (maybe, insurgents included) were killed. I call that a precision operation with ample consideration for those who need to be sheltered from the conflict as we were best able to give, just like my family is sheltered from the conflict.
Uncorroborated biased source. That documentary is about as reliable as Hamas' media wing. There is a journalist claiming to have seen burned women and children. No further investigation or aftermath stories have been forthcoming. And again, they were fired at military targets, and are not banned by treaties. Belly-ache all you want, but it is legal, and I'm not alone in condoning its use in war.
Maybe if we hadn't destroyed the oppressor of 70% of the populace (angering the other 30% who were at least comfortable), established transparent elections with puppets (with a newly reintegrated Baath party as well), rebuilt the country after removing said oppressor (undoing some of the damage of war), and established a time-line to leave (which is coming along swimmingly) I might agree with you. Flawed intelligence (no false charges of lies, now people) or no, Saddam played chicken with a populace in no mood to be f-ed with (UN sanctions, inspections of weapons, previous record of oppression). A remarkable 6 years later, the violence has ebbed.
but even as I typed that, look at what happened to Japan after the bomb, though most of that was due to the Emperor saying Uncle and bowing to the undercurrent that was tired of seeing their sons off. To mix metaphors, bring it home hard enough and you'll wipe them out, but only maim the giant and you reap the whirlwind.
War is messy and regrettable and sucks for all involved and we would have avoided Fallujah if we could have. So instead of demonizing the Army who is there with a specific purpose and follows a very strict set of guidelines when fighting, blame the property loss for burned houses on the insurgents, who made those family's houses a war zone. Better yet, use the scalpel of local resistance to the insurgents and kill them, so the US government's sledgehammer doesn't have to. Oh wait, that's what the Anbar Awakening did, so we wouldn't have another Fallujah.
According to official reports and observers, WP rounds were used to target places insurgents were hiding. Whether used for illumination or not is not reported, so characterizing the use of WP as "dumping" is questionable at best and trolling at worst. Again, 10,000 or more fled the scene before the fighting started, and remaining vulnerable civilians could have been escorted out by the insurgents, but were instead left as human shields by a cowardly enemy.
I have never found any evidence that WP was used against civilians, nor that women and children were targeted indiscriminately, so no war crimes occurred.
The only reference to children with injuries came from the preliminary bombardment, which is usual, if regrettable, and cannot be avoided when combatants set up shop in a populated city.
Again: the first post is a troll by mistakenly conflating injuries of civilians with injuries of combatants through targeted use of WP.
Glorification tends to be minimized as you build games close to reality.
Saving Private Ryan presented the horrifying nature of combat and was able to avoid glorification. It also made millions of dollars. It is high time video games were able to do something that visceral.
A review of GT I read noted how the ragdoll physics pull one out of the cartoon violence and make you realize what horrible things you are doing. The documentary footage of the soldiers will do just the same, and will add an anchor akin to movie dialogue that helps you empathize with the character.
The original was a troll: no women or children have been reported killed by WP in Fallujah. The WP was used for anti-personnel attacks on protected positions where high explosives were having no effect. (Paraphrased from wikipedia, but consistent with reports I've heard)
The baby-killers charge was, is and always will be trolling.
Localization is not limited to language. Compliance with laws regarding portrayal of violence, licensing paid to ratings boards and other taxes can add up.
The best example I know of is the localization of FF8 to Europe removed the word Nunchaku because they are outlawed in most jurisdictions (specifically France and maybe England). Paying attnetion to these minutia cost companies money but save them from messy legal problems and public outcry.
I agree with fellow poster: the idiot bankers ruined our reputation. The fact that ratings agencies AND insurers didn't stop this before it started means we deserve the situation we are in.
Exactly. This is what has not been explained to the public: We are dismantling the people responsible for this mess. If they are allowed to go bankrupt, they were small potatoes. If they were bailed out, they made the wrong bets and now get publically dismantled. If they are stilla round, they will be a shell of their former selves, with all new personnel and a bad name anyway, so it is the same thing.
Violation of CISP is a BIG deal. No one needs this information unless they are running your card. It has no other use than verification (kind of how a drivers license should only be produced for ID purposes)
It is not their fault you forgot to notify them of something so outside the realm of possibility as to be laughable. I mean, really! WHO goes to GERMANY on PURPOSE?!
In CivE, this is called a Safety Factor. Find out how much it needs to be to be safe, figure out how much wiggle room we can afford, add it in as possible. The problem is, City Councils can never afford ANY wiggle room...
The seatbelt, airbag and traction control industries must be similarly powerful. Its not that their product provides such an overwhelming good that makes it mandated. Also, they are powerfule, but not so powerful as to avoid strict regulation.
Please note: you can't always get what you want when you want it. Drive a junker or ride the bus until you have the money to get more. Otherwise, live in Darfur where you aren't obligated to have car insurance.
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I have not used AdBlock and have no connection with the subject. However, your attitude of ambivalence toward our fellow man's sorrows is both enlightening and sickening, and worthy of discussion. People are quite willing to mourn someone who may have been a horrible person in private. They are also willing to laud success that may not be deserved when revealed int he light of day. This memorial post on a board full of people who have been influenced by the subject is not such a case.
The memorial post was an attempt to provide a forum for meaningful mourning (and not just self-gratification through feigned interest and grief) to people who may not have known him personally but still benefited from the man's work. And while the ambivalent attitude shown by some may be fitting on /b/, one shouldn't be surprised by the shock it causes among people who actually might have been affected by this man.
In other words, go troll somewhere else.
I believe this type of response is why we can't have nice things.
I don't recall us having international obligations to police those countries due to an invasion they conducted on a neighboring country.
/hate China and what Bush did trade-wise
//Sudan is China's fault, nonetheless
Saddam played chicken with the international community. The US didn't blink and deposed him. Fallujah became a stronghold for insurgents upset that they couldn't oppress their countrymen and made Fallujah their stronghold. Local citizens couldn't or didn't kick them out, so we did it for them. We gave ample warning and tens of thousands left the targeted area. Of a city of 300,000 only 2000 (maybe, insurgents included) were killed. I call that a precision operation with ample consideration for those who need to be sheltered from the conflict as we were best able to give, just like my family is sheltered from the conflict.
Uncorroborated biased source. That documentary is about as reliable as Hamas' media wing. There is a journalist claiming to have seen burned women and children. No further investigation or aftermath stories have been forthcoming. And again, they were fired at military targets, and are not banned by treaties. Belly-ache all you want, but it is legal, and I'm not alone in condoning its use in war.
Maybe if we hadn't destroyed the oppressor of 70% of the populace (angering the other 30% who were at least comfortable), established transparent elections with puppets (with a newly reintegrated Baath party as well), rebuilt the country after removing said oppressor (undoing some of the damage of war), and established a time-line to leave (which is coming along swimmingly) I might agree with you. Flawed intelligence (no false charges of lies, now people) or no, Saddam played chicken with a populace in no mood to be f-ed with (UN sanctions, inspections of weapons, previous record of oppression). A remarkable 6 years later, the violence has ebbed.
but even as I typed that, look at what happened to Japan after the bomb, though most of that was due to the Emperor saying Uncle and bowing to the undercurrent that was tired of seeing their sons off. To mix metaphors, bring it home hard enough and you'll wipe them out, but only maim the giant and you reap the whirlwind.
Or they'd be whipped into a fervor and fight even harder, like happened in WWII...
War is messy and regrettable and sucks for all involved and we would have avoided Fallujah if we could have. So instead of demonizing the Army who is there with a specific purpose and follows a very strict set of guidelines when fighting, blame the property loss for burned houses on the insurgents, who made those family's houses a war zone. Better yet, use the scalpel of local resistance to the insurgents and kill them, so the US government's sledgehammer doesn't have to. Oh wait, that's what the Anbar Awakening did, so we wouldn't have another Fallujah.
According to official reports and observers, WP rounds were used to target places insurgents were hiding. Whether used for illumination or not is not reported, so characterizing the use of WP as "dumping" is questionable at best and trolling at worst. Again, 10,000 or more fled the scene before the fighting started, and remaining vulnerable civilians could have been escorted out by the insurgents, but were instead left as human shields by a cowardly enemy.
I have never found any evidence that WP was used against civilians, nor that women and children were targeted indiscriminately, so no war crimes occurred.
The only reference to children with injuries came from the preliminary bombardment, which is usual, if regrettable, and cannot be avoided when combatants set up shop in a populated city.
Again: the first post is a troll by mistakenly conflating injuries of civilians with injuries of combatants through targeted use of WP.
Glorification tends to be minimized as you build games close to reality.
Saving Private Ryan presented the horrifying nature of combat and was able to avoid glorification. It also made millions of dollars. It is high time video games were able to do something that visceral.
A review of GT I read noted how the ragdoll physics pull one out of the cartoon violence and make you realize what horrible things you are doing. The documentary footage of the soldiers will do just the same, and will add an anchor akin to movie dialogue that helps you empathize with the character.
The original was a troll: no women or children have been reported killed by WP in Fallujah. The WP was used for anti-personnel attacks on protected positions where high explosives were having no effect. (Paraphrased from wikipedia, but consistent with reports I've heard)
The baby-killers charge was, is and always will be trolling.
Localization is not limited to language. Compliance with laws regarding portrayal of violence, licensing paid to ratings boards and other taxes can add up.
The best example I know of is the localization of FF8 to Europe removed the word Nunchaku because they are outlawed in most jurisdictions (specifically France and maybe England). Paying attnetion to these minutia cost companies money but save them from messy legal problems and public outcry.
I agree with fellow poster: the idiot bankers ruined our reputation. The fact that ratings agencies AND insurers didn't stop this before it started means we deserve the situation we are in.
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Exactly. This is what has not been explained to the public: We are dismantling the people responsible for this mess. If they are allowed to go bankrupt, they were small potatoes. If they were bailed out, they made the wrong bets and now get publically dismantled. If they are stilla round, they will be a shell of their former selves, with all new personnel and a bad name anyway, so it is the same thing.
How much does Peter North usually get for his services to the Ladies?
Violation of CISP is a BIG deal. No one needs this information unless they are running your card. It has no other use than verification (kind of how a drivers license should only be produced for ID purposes)
It is not their fault you forgot to notify them of something so outside the realm of possibility as to be laughable. I mean, really! WHO goes to GERMANY on PURPOSE?!
Mandated cameras on all places that accept...crap
Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theorists = Gold-Foil Hats
In CivE, this is called a Safety Factor. Find out how much it needs to be to be safe, figure out how much wiggle room we can afford, add it in as possible. The problem is, City Councils can never afford ANY wiggle room...
The seatbelt, airbag and traction control industries must be similarly powerful. Its not that their product provides such an overwhelming good that makes it mandated. Also, they are powerfule, but not so powerful as to avoid strict regulation.
Ditto for vaccine industry, DOWN WITH THE MAN
Please note: you can't always get what you want when you want it. Drive a junker or ride the bus until you have the money to get more. Otherwise, live in Darfur where you aren't obligated to have car insurance.
DoWII is all about combined arms rather than unit spam. Mounting a successful defense involved rbinging several types of hurt on the opponent at once.