I think you're missing the point. Economics can lead change (and often does.) For more on South Africa, look up the Sullivan Principles to see what I mean. Through requesting U.S. firms to abide by the Sullivan Principles, it helped bring about political change in South Africa. Of course, that means whites aren't safe there anymore, but that's another story.
The article points out that Springsteen listeners also aren't all that likely to be spending time ripping mp3's and sharing files. I think there's some merit to the point of keeping CDs secure. Obviously the Boss can pull it off. But, let's face it, how many 'Springsteen' searches are going over Gnutella?
Nobody is answering how users are going to connect to the Internet. I mean, we're talking about people who'd shop at Wal-Mart for a computer. What're are they going to do, set up a Chat Script? If Earthlink had a Linux distribution or some way to set up a PPP connection, that would make this one a winner. And you don't even need OpenOffice. Just make sure Tux Racer isn't choppy...
A big freakin' magnet? Make a satellite that's nothing more than a huge electro-magnet, launch it, turn it on, attract junk, do either a controlled descent or shoot off towards the sun (or other nearby, large orbital body.)
PHP-Nuke, also has a similar page/system for their friends. It's a Club (MandrakeClub like) where you can be a member for a little monthly fee and you can get some extra benefits.
I thought FB was/is doing away with the club. He didn't get enough response to it and was considering going down other avenues. If the site was up, I'd link to his posting on phpNuke.
I agree with your points. Caldera, SuSE, et al are pretty far down the list of desktops that I'd use (for any number of reasons.)
It's like these guys want to say, "Hey, we make Linux servers, too" to compete with Red Hat. Plus, by trying to get on the hardware wagon (doesn't Red Hat have deals with Compaq/HP and, I think, Dell?) it looks even more like a desperate attempt to gain market share.
Sadly it will probably muddle the waters among the uninformed 'thinking about Linux' community.
I think they realize they're on the verge of becoming an afterthought and realize they have to market NOW.
Most of us have matched set coasters with an AOL theme.
Do you ever wonder if you'll see a collection of ALL of the AOL coasters, er, uh, I mean, CDs some time in the future - selling as a set for outrageous money and think, "I could have done that and it would have cost me nothing."
I'm not talking about the tools (some are easy, some are less obvious). I'm talking about mining the data from their ISP. Some ISPs don't even want to hear you say 'Linux'. That's just the way it is. As for Mandrake being easier than XP, you don't have to sell me. I've been installing it since version 5 (basically a repackaged Red Hat.) I'm gearing up for getting people to move over from XP. It's really been horror story after horror story. Little stuff, but people are getting tired of crappy software.
How is the 'Joe Sixpack' in question going to connect to the 'net? Configure a PPP script? How are they going to get their DNS names? Configure their email? Get their access numbers? This isn't meant as flamebait, but these are hurdles anyone setting up a dial-up Linux box has had to get by. How is this going to fly in the mass market? Will Mandrake walk them through? Is Earthlink getting their CD presses ready with Linux versions? Trust me, this will be the Next Big Linux Problem. (now that fancy guis and cheap machines and distribution are out of the way.) Otherwise, they're just going to pull the bottom feeders from penguincomputing.com.
Same here. I was trying to hold out and finally downloaded/installed last night. Oh well, gives me week to play before the mirrors aren't gagging. (Have to check that unofficial list, though.) Have to say, Slack looks nice and clean compared to some of the other distros I've played with (like Mandrake) and didn't take 3 hours to install a base system (a la Gentoo) and gives you configurability (unlike Peanut.) Plus, I'd still have a reason to keep using my 'Running Linux' book since the other distros have so many tools to edit simple text files.
Er, uh, have you tried Opera yet?
They practically invented tabbed browsing.
Not that I don't like Moz, I've had rc3 since its release and I'll download next week when the pipes have cooled.
I've just always thought Opera was a little better than Netscape 4.7. (And hell, at least you had the good sense to stay away from 6.)
Google got mentioned by Michael Barone of 'U.S. News and World Report' on 'Fox News with Brit Hume' last night. (Brit pointed out that it's an EXCELLENT Search Engine.)
If that's not 'jumping the shark', I don't know what is...
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I think you're missing the point. Economics can lead change (and often does.)
For more on South Africa, look up the Sullivan Principles to see what I mean. Through requesting U.S. firms to abide by the Sullivan Principles, it helped bring about political change in South Africa.
Of course, that means whites aren't safe there anymore, but that's another story.
The article points out that Springsteen listeners also aren't all that likely to be spending time ripping mp3's and sharing files.
I think there's some merit to the point of keeping CDs secure. Obviously the Boss can pull it off. But, let's face it, how many 'Springsteen' searches are going over Gnutella?
Nobody is answering how users are going to connect to the Internet.
I mean, we're talking about people who'd shop at Wal-Mart for a computer. What're are they going to do, set up a Chat Script?
If Earthlink had a Linux distribution or some way to set up a PPP connection, that would make this one a winner. And you don't even need OpenOffice.
Just make sure Tux Racer isn't choppy...
*bows*
A big freakin' magnet?
Make a satellite that's nothing more than a huge electro-magnet, launch it, turn it on, attract junk, do either a controlled descent or shoot off towards the sun (or other nearby, large orbital body.)
you'll see he has Quake installed too
Think about this in traffic jams...Make the commute more bearable.
Of course, so would mounting a machine gun on the hood.
PHP-Nuke, also has a similar page/system for their friends. It's a Club (MandrakeClub like) where you can be a member for a little monthly fee and you can get some extra benefits.
I thought FB was/is doing away with the club. He didn't get enough response to it and was considering going down other avenues. If the site was up, I'd link to his posting on phpNuke.
KaZaA has an ad at the bottom of it....
If you're running KaZaa then you really don't care about ads.
Other's may not be as forgiving.
I agree with your points. Caldera, SuSE, et al are pretty far down the list of desktops that I'd use (for any number of reasons.)
It's like these guys want to say, "Hey, we make Linux servers, too" to compete with Red Hat. Plus, by trying to get on the hardware wagon (doesn't Red Hat have deals with Compaq/HP and, I think, Dell?) it looks even more like a desperate attempt to gain market share.
Sadly it will probably muddle the waters among the uninformed 'thinking about Linux' community.
I think they realize they're on the verge of becoming an afterthought and realize they have to market NOW.
Most of us have matched set coasters with an AOL theme.
Do you ever wonder if you'll see a collection of ALL of the AOL coasters, er, uh, I mean, CDs some time in the future - selling as a set for outrageous money and think, "I could have done that and it would have cost me nothing."
Sweet. Gotta get me one of them.
The CD has a copy of Sybase for the user to work with.
A free coaster!
I'm not talking about the tools (some are easy, some are less obvious).
I'm talking about mining the data from their ISP. Some ISPs don't even want to hear you say 'Linux'.
That's just the way it is.
As for Mandrake being easier than XP, you don't have to sell me. I've been installing it since version 5 (basically a repackaged Red Hat.) I'm gearing up for getting people to move over from XP. It's really been horror story after horror story. Little stuff, but people are getting tired of crappy software.
How is the 'Joe Sixpack' in question going to connect to the 'net?
Configure a PPP script?
How are they going to get their DNS names? Configure their email? Get their access numbers?
This isn't meant as flamebait, but these are hurdles anyone setting up a dial-up Linux box has had to get by.
How is this going to fly in the mass market? Will Mandrake walk them through? Is Earthlink getting their CD presses ready with Linux versions?
Trust me, this will be the Next Big Linux Problem. (now that fancy guis and cheap machines and distribution are out of the way.)
Otherwise, they're just going to pull the bottom feeders from penguincomputing.com.
-J
Same here. I was trying to hold out and finally downloaded/installed last night.
Oh well, gives me week to play before the mirrors aren't gagging. (Have to check that unofficial list, though.)
Have to say, Slack looks nice and clean compared to some of the other distros I've played with (like Mandrake) and didn't take 3 hours to install a base system (a la Gentoo) and gives you configurability (unlike Peanut.)
Plus, I'd still have a reason to keep using my 'Running Linux' book since the other distros have so many tools to edit simple text files.
You forgot:
e) all of the above.
You're right. Sorry 'bout that.
Two week old baby. Up all night.
Need Sleep...
O'Reilly is like the Pepperidge Farm of computer books.
"If it's an O'Reilly, it's got to be good."
...instead of a single organization declared to be a monopoly by the U.S. DOJ.
Just wondering, but does the DOJ have a Monopoly on declaring who is a Monopoly?
Absolutely LOVE the tabs.
Er, uh, have you tried Opera yet?
They practically invented tabbed browsing.
Not that I don't like Moz, I've had rc3 since its release and I'll download next week when the pipes have cooled.
I've just always thought Opera was a little better than Netscape 4.7. (And hell, at least you had the good sense to stay away from 6.)
Google got mentioned by Michael Barone of 'U.S. News and World Report' on 'Fox News with Brit Hume' last night. (Brit pointed out that it's an EXCELLENT Search Engine.)
If that's not 'jumping the shark', I don't know what is...
Boy, and I got peeved because I had to replace a WinModem (4 years ago...)
I guess I should let it go.
Worse. It will be acquired by Caldera.
Worse still --> Being acquired by Corel. Damn near killed Borland.
really, try to come up with anything you do that is not to get laid more. You just cant do it.
Have a kid.
I have a friend who refuses to go to Linux full time until he can get Photoshop and Premiere on the platform.
I've even tried to get him to try Mac OS X, but to no avail.