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gafferted writes "The boffins at google have been experimenting with new toys, such as Keyboard Shortcuts and glossary, but most fun is Google Sets. Try "green, purple, red" to get a set of 40 different colours. Try a set that contains both Richard Stallman and Bill Gates, see what google associates with Slashdot or ask for a set of rude words."
...but you've Slashdotted google!#*(@Q$#^$
wow.
Janie took my gun...
It looks like the only machine that's melted is the lab1.google.com one. I'm just dreading what the Slashdot effect is going to do to that poor Voice Search phoneline!
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
... "Google" and "Jumps the Shark"?
- DDT
So long, michael. Don't let the door hit you...
If you're a huge Google fan (and aren't we all) check out Google Weblog. They had this story 2 days ago, plus they keep you up to date on other cool Google happenings.
And no, it's not my site. I just think it's cool.
daed si luap
I put in: Slashdot & penis and it bombed!!
:)
The one time I actually want to read what the story's about, and the webserver is down...
See here. Who wouldn't want to be a Forward Observation Officer in the navy? :)
I work at a place that is kind of touchy about content served up to those who signed the agreement to be allowed online, and that link to rude words I think needs one of the fark "Not Safe For Work" things after it.
Yeah, the thing doesn't link to boobies, but grepping for incoming text vs. grepping for inbound boobies is a tad easier for log generation.
Besides, I thought rude words just involved being insensitive, not foul.
Wheeeee
I am in awe.
I fed it Hugh, Pugh and Barney Mcgrew - and it gave the right answer.
It can't be far from becoming self-aware.
george
Google rules. I really like the keyboard shortcuts they've implemented. Having them at my disposal may make me use Mozilla more often on my Mac -- at least until OmniWeb has W3C DOM support up to snuff.
mbbac
No wonder it is still beta, it associates Rob Malda with RMS and Bill Gates!
Richard Stallman
Bill Gates
Linus Torvalds
Larry Wall
Bruce Perens
Eric Raymond
Steve Jobs
Brian Behlendorf
Chris Dibona
Larry Augustin
Rob Malda
Michael Tiemann
Randal Schwartz
Jamie Zawinski
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Google assiciates rude words with Slashdot, but i think the sysadmins were typing them in manually for each query i made while their servers were grinding to a slasdotted halt.
just when I wanted to enter the set : Natalie Portman, hot grits, petrified.
If someone gets through, please post the results.
Nobody believes the official spokesman, but everybody trusts an unidentified source. -- Ron Nesen
I typed: luke, han, leia and chewie and I got all the other charcters including minor ones like admiral ackbar !!! Now if only it wasn't /.ed maybe I could get Star Trek characters :)
True warriors use the Klingon Google
It seems that in addition to labs1
there is also labs.google.com
labs2.google.com
labs3.google.com
labs front page works(right now) the rest don't, and links off of labs, try to go to labs1 and crash and burn...
looks like googles slashdotted, someone find a cache of the page on google!
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Google -- slashdotted... O my God.
What? It's not in Google's cache!
I guess we need an alternative search/caching engine for this very case...
;)
Does this mean they will fix their search engine so that it works? Right now a search of something like "where to buy" or even +"where to buy" will tell you that 'where' and 'to' are common words and not included in the search, which of course completly loses the whole point of searching on a phrase (their FAQ says this should work properly, but in fact it works as I've indicated)
I spent a couple hours playing with google labs last night and one of the most impressiev things (to me) was how I put in 3 bands:
Nirvana
Alice in Chains
Pearl Jam
and received one of the most accurate lists of other grunge and hard rock/heavy bands back that I've seen. To be able to build such a list on something as subjective as music is very impressive, and shows you just how good the quality of google's algorithms are.
$45 per U Colocation Special
Also try the beta for Google's Catalog Search
http://www.kubuntu.org/
Damn, seems the page has been Slashdotted. No biggie, I'll just check out the Google cache...
Oh..wait...
sig--we don't need no goddamn sig
Dude, if you were like on usenet in 1996, you remember that story about Diff'rent strokes, the best line of it being WOO WOO I GET SPANKING?
I really want a copy of that one, if you could find it, I would much appreciate it.
5. What happened to that cool thing I was playing around with last week?
The prototypes on Google Labs are meant to be low maintenance experiments. If one disappears it may be because no one was interested enough to use it, it wasn't stable enough for users to try it out, or it was so wildly successful that heavy usage brought the server to its knees. While that particular application may not reappear, there should be something equally interesting to replace it shortly.
So after today's /.ing, are they going to replace the entire lab site?
This must definitely be a violation of the 3rd commandment!
I mean...
OFMG: Oh, f*ck my God?
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
The google set is very impressive. I feel some premises of AI.
There has been some experiments to teach a computer that water is wet and fire is hot then make clever deductions.
Google has this knowledge somewhere in it's database.
One day, Google (or someone else, though Google is at the right place) will answer questions not only by sending a list of relevant site but by making up the answer just for you.
(You're working on that, aren't you, Googlers ?)
No brain, no headache
I discovered the voice search yesterday (and submitted it but was rejected... but that's not the point). It was pretty fun - since it's slashdotted, though, I'll mention that it worked for me: when I said "The Simpsons," it gave results for "The Simpsons" and "The Sims," which is understandable. Somebody else did a search for "ISDN" and got results for "ISDN" as well as "ISBN." The last search was for "Corvette," which gave a lot of results that contained "Court of" in the title, but the sidebar on the right (the paid sponsors) had links to Corvette sites.
So, bookmark that site and someday in the future, when it is not slashdotted, try the voice search! It's not a toll-free number, but the coolness factor is well worth it. I don't know where it would be really useful (you still need a web browser to view the results), except in the case where you know how to pronounce a word but not how to spell it.
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
Are the web APIs and the especially cool (money making!) Ask Google.
If Google were smart they'd use the w, a, s, d keys instead of i, j, k, l. My fingers automatically go to wasd after many, many games of Quake 3 -- and many other games using the same engine. :)
mbbac
I really miss the old 'quick and dirty' Alta Vista...Google is still substandard.
Google caches sites that don't cache themselves, but Google doesn't cache itself.
Shouldn't Google cache itself?
I am Russell.
Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
In the spirit of automated classification and machine learning, I
tried searching for a set containing "boosting", "SVM" and "bagging"
(without "bagging", nothing new is found; another problem).
Results: "SVM", "Bagging", "Boosting", "stacking" and "Other methods".
Clicking on either of the 2 new links ("stacking" or "Other methods")
takes me to the normal Google search on the term. This is of course
not useful -- I need the terms in the machine learning context, which I
cannot get.
Especially in the case of "Other methods", it would be nice to be able
to get to the page Google had in mind...
2 dashes and a space, or just 2 dashes?
For example, try entering "Frank Welker", "Don Messick", and "Maurice LaMarche" (all cartoon voice actors). Under "small set", you get back nothing but a failure page that implies you need to change the terms to get results. The failure page doesn't even have the "expand your search" link that successful small set searches have. But if you use "large set", you get back 3 additional items (well under the 15 item set limit of a small set).
I come from a small town whose population never changed. Each time a woman got pregnant, someone left town. -- Michael Prichard
What happened when someone died then?
We brought in more chinese labor for the railroad.
Looks like an easter egg to me. :)
Google's cache of www.google.com
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Wow I entered Natalie Portman into google sets and i got 'hot grits' back!
I'm not seeing the Easter egg... If you mean the dilbert logo, that's the actual logo series this week.
If you're talking about the Dilbert thing, it is by design.
;) (You know, the &hl=sv&ie=UTF8 part)
If you're talking about the language thing, it is your mother tongue.
Amazing!
Now you can connect him with everything in the universe.
Great idea, but odd key choices, IMO. Why not go with popular key sets like the vi-style keys or emacs-style keys, or better yet: make it user configurable?
there's no place like ~
I can only hope that if AOL switches to Mozilla as their core code, and Google starts seeing millions of Mozilla hits, they might rethink this decision.
sPh
I was talking about the Dilbert thing.
:)
:)
Yeah, I read all about that Dilbert thing afterwards by clicking on the logo. But it looked funny as I hadn't seen the logo before even if I'm a frequent Google visitor.
Hmm... So you're saying I speak UTF8? Nah, that would be inefficient, requiring twice as long time to... Umm... Sorry, now I confused with Unicode again. *hides*
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
The idea is cool, but they should have used the vi keys instead. "I" means up? Yuck, everyone knows that's the insert key.. "K" means down? How ubout "K" means up like it's supposed to. C'mon, the vi keys are an accepted standard.
No todo lo que es oro brilla
Oh, it's on the International Google! doh!
:)
:(
Well, it got +4 Funny currently so someone must be amused.
Or perhaps they're just amused by my stupidity.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
The cursor keys in VI are hjkl!
;)
I too, would prefer awsd
I'd be pretty damn mad if my project got the slashdotting that this has brought down on labs1.google.com...
Wah!
I couldn't believe it when I started reading all the suggestions that google should have chosen vi keys...because they are standards that almost everyone knows. Sheesh, what a group of idiots. You guys (posters) really are nerds out of touch with reality. There's a couple orders of magnitude more people on the internet familiar with keyboard shortcuts for windows products than there are who even know what vi is, much less remember the keys used by it. Use vi keys, hahahahahahaha.
Where the future is being made today!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Anyone tried putting Kevin Bacon in a sets query. I would but the site is slashdotted...
- Corporate Home of Portman's Tupperware Store
- XXX hot chimpanzees
- Quaker instant grits
- Gritty instant quakers
- Hot XXX babes
- Hot XXX gritty Instant Quakers
- Star wars collector mugs
- Hot deal on 100 grit sand paper
- Natalie Merchant Home Page
- IMDB: "True Grit" Starring John Wayne...
If "Let's Dump Hot Grits Down Natalie Portman's Pants" is search result #11, you're fscked and have to result to screen scraping Google and using 3 times more of their bandwidth than you would have used if they dramatically increased the result limit.Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
Notice that Google's cache of www.google.com comes with a disclaimer:
Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content.
I'm serious. They're desperately trying to come up with a way of making money that isn't going to completely alienate their users.
They're clutching at all sorts of straws - google answers for example.
Hey, free speech is great and all, but what's up with the rude words at the end of that submission? Please... I'm sure at least 50 other people submitted this story in a way that's not offensive to many people. I hope everyone got their giggles out of it.
jason
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The Google Labs Terms of Use state:
You also agree that you will not use any robot, spider, other automated device, or manual process to monitor or copy any content from the Site. (emphasis mine)
Does it mean that revisiting the site is forbidden?
Well, it's called "News for Nerds" now, innit? Besides, "k" and "i" are definitely not "down" and "up" in Windows either.
You shall see a cow on the roof of a cotton house.
The ultimate test: Jenna Jameson, Sylvia Saint, Houston, Chasey Lain, Christy Canyon
...and it passes with flying colors.
A speech...
This makes me wonder what Google will be like 10 years from now. Will they accidentally release a Lawnmower-Man-like entity onto the Internet and then categorically deny everything? Will they have to contribute to a special SuperFund for Internet pollution? Will we see cartoons of Men In Black spray-burning suspicious goo off the Google logo?
Here's a funny list of misspelled Google searches for "Britney Spears". Google was able to automatically spell-correct all of them.
Britney Spears
cpeterso
From the Google Labs page:
Thanks for your interest in Google Labs.
The lab is temporarily closed as we deal with an experiment that got slightly out of hand. Nothing to be concerned about, really. All of our engineers are perfectly safe and there was never any real danger of it escaping into the wild.
Please check back in a few hours. Everything should be back to normal then and science will march on once again. We appreciate your patience.
I'm convinced that Google will become a giant AI. Google Sets seems like a small step towards machine understanding. The problem with older AI was bootstrapping their knowledge base. The Google AI systems will use the entire internet as an encyclopedia of self-correcting, peer-reviewed, continually-updated "facts". Suddenly, the problem of manual data entry for a AI system like Open Cyc is massively parallelized to the entire population of web users! Of course, the web is full of lies and self-promotion, but the web contains multiple voices, multiple "truths", that will create a general consensus using Google's PageRank algorithm.
cpeterso
google wants to see what you type in the search field before you hit the search button
From Google's lab website:
Thanks for your interest in Google Labs.
The lab is temporarily closed as we deal with an experiment that got slightly out of hand. Nothing to be concerned about, really. All of our engineers are perfectly safe and there was never any real danger of it escaping into the wild.
Please check back in a few hours. Everything should be back to normal then and science will march on once again. We appreciate your patience.
Karma: SELECT `karma` FROM `users` WHERE `userid`=138474;
Yet -- another cool feature I found out recently is that whenever your search query yields no results and google thinks you misspelled something, it automagically retries your query with the spell-checked result (and points very clearly out that it did so).
Will these people never stop improving?
Like science? Comics? Wicked...
Funny By Nature
Speaking of boobies (and I do like to speak of boobies), I was impressed by Google's completion of the set "hooters, knockers, fun bags":
Google on boobies
That's pretty impressive! I think it could pass the Turing test!
Blaby, Coalville, Zulia, Nueva Esparta, Hinckley, M rida, Kott, Murkowski, Carabobo, Foster Chair, Davies, Sucre.
I was expecting some kind of Tomb Raider stuff maybe, but these?
The site's back up, by the way.
I tried a set, and the results blew my mind:
Glass Tiger
Men Without Hats
Grapes Of Wrath
All Canadian bands, all active in the 80's.
I got 20 results back, including my original three -- all Canadian, and all but two active in the 80's (one released their first single in 1990, the other seems to have appeared around 1997 or so).
I had to pick my jaw up off the floor!
Thanks for your interest in Google Labs.
The lab is temporarily closed as we deal with an experiment that got slightly out of hand. Nothing to be concerned about, really. All of our engineers are perfectly safe and there was never any real danger of it escaping into the wild.
Please check back in a few hours. Everything should be back to normal then and science will march on once again. We appreciate your patience.
But you can still use it you just have to enter the variables manually Petting various animals
Hitler's in the fridge.
Try the large set for "Natalie Portman" "Sarah Michelle Gellar" and "Jessica Alba". Google has excellent taste in women.
It seems that this feature doesn't do that well with the most intuitive of all sets. My first thought was to try some of the {natural #s}, {integers}, {complex #s}, ...
Given 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Google gives more integers, but skips numbers and adds 0. (try the large set option and get "deleted" for an entry?). It ignores i and negative numbers entirely.
But hey, neat trick overall.
enter 'one', 'two', 'three'
and you get........................
Three
One
Two
Four
FIVE
SIX
SEVEN
EIGHT
NINE
TEN
eleven
twelve
Thirteen
None
Fourteen
lameness filter sucks, lameness filter sucks
Each query phrase produces a set of documents, i.e. web pages. The intersection of those sets gives a small set of docs which is pretty much the same thing that a normal google query (or any search engine) will return, if all the queries are ANDed. Then the new feature is to find the intersection of all the terms from all the docs in the doc-intersection set. That is, return all the terms that are common to all the docs.
e.g. in pseudo-code: Assume ...}. ... ...; // so docSets contains the URLs of the docs that have all the query terms // ws will contain the running intersection of the set of words in all the docs
- G is the normal google search engine.
- G.query("search phrase") returns a set of references (URLs) to docs, e.g. {u1, u2, u3,
- u.terms() returns a set of all the words contained in the doc referenced by u, e.g. if u=="http://slashdot.org", then u.terms() == {"news", "for", "nerds", "slashdot", etc.}.
- * is a set intersection operator.
s1 = G.query(q1); s2=G.query(q2); s3=G.query(q3);
docSets = s1 * s2 * s3 *
ws = docSets[0].terms();
forall url in docSets { ws = ws * url.terms(); }
return ws;
So my guess is that ws is the final set of terms returned by the google set. Of course, the words should be sorted by some meaningful metric, e.g. frequency. This is all very easy to implement and can be done very quickly, because finding the document set intersection and the word set intersections can be done very quickly using sparse vectors to represent word or document vectors.
I'd hate for them to cater to the largest market share. What are they trying to do, make money? By having google write enhancements for the masses, more people use google, so google makes more money.
If you like an open source browser and want enhancements that you can't find, you write them yourselves.
Cowboy Neal
Resort to watching TV
Interact with my SO
Improve my Perl foo
Discover IRC
Read SlashDot
Haaaaated iiiiiiiit
being the pervert that i am...i put in fuck, cunt, and tits. now, i must give google credit on this one, because it returned the 4 other dirty words you cant say on tv. looks like google bot is a geroge carlin fan too.
"Alot of people don't know what they are doing...and most are pretty good at it." -George Carlin
Holy crap! I entered "red", "green", and "blue" and it came up with NAVY! I've already alerted the Mad Magazine building.
Gotta love Google.
I didn't see "broccoli spears" as a common misspelling
If you click the link for rude words, then click "Shrink Set" you get George Carlin's 7 dirty words.
So I took the rude words link from the article, then clicked on the word "snatch" which was one of the many returned similar words.
:)
Up came the following sponsored link:
Snatch on eBay.
Low Prices. - Thousands of Items!
Buy or Sell on eBay.
www.ebay.com.au
Interest: =====---
Interpret that however you like
Matt
DO! do-do-do-do-DO! do-do-do-do-do do DO! do-do-DO!
(for fans of Sesame Street).
I guess the fact that Rob is listed above Bjarne Stroustrup shows just how far C++ has fallen.
Hopelessly pedantic since 1963.
* Trombone
* Terrapin
* Lard
[Predicted Items: None]
Even Google doesn't know what to do with a trombone, a terrapin, and a half pound of lard!
Predicted Items:
Fireball
Dispel Magic
Lightning Bolt
Fly
Haste
Vampiric Touch
Stinking Cloud
Hold Person
empty slot
Web
Clairvoyance
Water Breathing
:)
It even manages to choose spells of the exact same spell level! I guess having the archives of rec.games.frp.dnd on Google Groups must really help
Heck, it even guesses water type Pokémon correctly. Now that's what I call an interesting site.
The story that ZDNet is carrying says that Google has also created some new experimental add-ons to the Google Toolbar:
And here are the descriptions of said add-ons:
However, I looked on the Google Toolbar site, Google Labs, and even searched the web (with Google), and I couldn't find this "second page" that ZDNet's article mentioned.
My question is, does anyone here know where the experimental add-ons for the Google Toolbar are at? Perhaps they are only for a private beta group (like the Folding@home Google Toolbar add-on)? Perhaps ZDNet's info isn't quite right?
Sets must involve some sort of manually maintained database which stores the categories in which different search terms belong. There's no way an algorithm could know that "Beggars in Spain" (a book) is in a different set than "Nancy Kress" (its author) otherwise. Also, query "Julian Jaynes" returns nothing, though the Google search engine finds around 3,000 pages with the term. If an algorithm alone was responsible for sets, this wouldn't make sense, but it makes sense if the Google staff who maintain the database never heard of Julian Jaynes.
If you're not on this list, google doens't think you're a religion, report immediately to the nearest deprogramming station! Presbyterian ,Hindu,Methodist,Jewish,Catholic,
Baptist,Lutheran ,Episcopal,Christian,Buddhist,Ang lican,Pentecostal,Non Denominational,Christian Science,Jehovah's Witnesses,
Mormon
Islam
United Methodist
Nondenominational
Education
Nazarene
Mennonite
Unitarian Universalist
Apostolic
Calvary Chapel
Scientology
Islamic
Roman Catholic
Taoist
Orthodox
Congregational
Quaker
Muslim
Jehovah's Witness
Druid
Angels
Wiccan
Yep, thanks, I did.
Predicted Items for
"lame"
mp3encoder
Perl
Icecast
IceDJ
PHP
phorum
liveCaster
Apache
Linux
halting
halt
crippled
seems fine to me.