I HAVE a few years of industrial coding under MY belt. It spans, X Windows IRIX, OS/2, Win32, C/C++ Smalltalk, Pascal, Basic. Assembly both X86 and Motorola.
EVERYONE makes mistakes - having the compiler do some work to catch those is a GOOD thing. Frankly I spent too much time chasing silly errors that when I find it I go "Geez what was I thinking?" But I guess if you don't make mistakes the compiler is just a pain in the ass. Why don't you just code 0's and 1's and avoid the dammed compiler all together.
I am so tired of the testosterone loaded geeks with egos the size of the moon. I've had to clean up buggy code before and invariably it's written by some idiot that "knew what he was doing" and that extra pointer deref that causes a segmentation fault was a simple cut and paste error that the compiler would have flagged.
"Strong type checking is for developers that have grown up!"
If someone wanted to work my company and wanted to use a tool as unproductive as vi I would have to think really hard why they were worth hiring.
If someone as closed minded as you are in your opinion of vi tried to work at my company you wouldn't get in. vi has it's uses. And to someone who has used it for a while, it is most certainly NOT unproductive.
They contend that DeCSS is necessary to achieve interoperability between computers running on the Linux system and DVDs and that this exception therefore is satisfied.20
This contention fails for three reasons. ____________________
20 Def. Mem. at 8-9.
First, defendants have offered no evidence to support this assertion.
Second, even assuming that DeCSS runs under Linux, it concededly runs under Windows---a far more widely used operating system---as well. It therefore cannot reasonably be said that DeCSS was developed "for the sole purpose'' of achieving interoperability between Linux and DVDs.
I write vi for UNIX and some one ports it to DOS then itcan not reasonably be said that I wrote vi to have a text editor under UNIX because there are allot mor DOS boxes...
This is all well and good but the brick and mortar software store is going away leaving only the Insert Category Name Here>.com. Kind of hard to do the above with this trend.
Because a PlayStation 2 lacks a built-in storage device, he says new programs would likely run through the DVD drive. There are fewer ways for the average user to run into problems because read-only devices are harder to break, he says.
Thanks for the tip! I didn't realise there was such a standard as streaming MP3! This works with WinAMP under NT, I just tried it. That's it, I now have a legitimate excuse not to visit some sites. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
So you'd rather us pay for a crappier product? Isn't that part of the reason that people wanted to boycott MS in the first place, they don't want to pay for an inferior product?
Not all of us. I am aware that NS4.x is not as standards compliant (especially Cascading Style Sheets ) as IE5. But I don't care. I still use NS4.x at work on an NT box. Why ? Because Microsoft is monopolistic bully whose business practices are repugnant.
For that reason alone I avoid their products whenever possible. It is a simple matter of ethics, continued support for their products is a validation of their business practices. Yes sir, I will use an inferior product if the ethics of the compan with the "better" product is non-existent.
The only reason I went through the trouble of learning to install, use, and develop, for Linux is to avoid Microsoft products. As the company is currently configured, they are the embodiment of all that is wrong with a society so focused on money that integrity is an unknown word.
The "free market" yahoos can flame me all they want for this. I run a Microsoft free home and I will keep it that way until I see a real change in their corporate philosophy.
To use this product would be to loose sight of why open-source is the only solution that can save us from a world completely dominated by Microsoft. They can keep their garbage.
It is interesting to watch the/. effect in action. Within Minutes the server is crawling to deliver i386-Linux.tar.gz. An article on this phenomenon or a reference to previous discussion would be nice. How slashdot.org avoids this is indeed a tribute to their setup. I guess I can get it tonight after the rush is over. The mirrors are crawling too:0)
Let's hope to start seeing more 3d modelers and animation packages on linux.
No doubt about it! Although the work by the MesaGL group is more in line with some of the more radical among us, there can be no doubt that a Major player like SGI is needed to help lend legitimacy to Linux. Having worked extensively with IRIX in the early 90's I can vouch for the thoroughness and quality of an SGI UNIX implementation. There port of GL GLX, OpenGL to Linux will be top notch. They do good work.
Ah but you miss th whole point! Is Michaelangelo's "David" not still beautiful after all these years? True beauty transcends time. Modern? What is modern in a few years?
I would want one of these even if the weigh penalty was 2x!
I assume they haven't stripped all the debug/symbol stuff out yet. I can't imagine they would ship an 18M footprint release. The boys in Redmond would jump all over that.
Balmer got Microsoft where it is, and was smart enough to give his boss the glory. Now that Microshaft has to play the phoenix, Balmer should be at the helm.
By by Bill we wont miss you! "Who will ever need more than 640K" Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...
Note to Steve B. I just built a simple app with Kdevelop. Qt spanks MFC so hard it's not even funny! Cut the bundling-tying stuff and get your developers focused on product quality/open standards. * Kill the COM XML link - Don Box is a moron. And The choice of words! "Manifesto" Duh! * Continue W3C support - without the politics. * Port Office to Linux. Keep it closed. I've seen M$ code -FUGLY! * Change dependency order: Crust. 1. Internal dev. 2. Marketing 3. I would fire marketing but that is probably asking too much.
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I HAVE a few years of industrial coding under MY belt. It spans, X Windows IRIX, OS/2, Win32, C/C++ Smalltalk, Pascal, Basic. Assembly both X86 and Motorola.
EVERYONE makes mistakes - having the compiler do some work to catch those is a GOOD thing. Frankly I spent too much time chasing silly errors that when I find it I go "Geez what was I thinking?" But I guess if you don't make mistakes the compiler is just a pain in the ass. Why don't you just code 0's and 1's and avoid the dammed compiler all together.
I am so tired of the testosterone loaded geeks with egos the size of the moon. I've had to clean up buggy code before and invariably it's written by some idiot that "knew what he was doing" and that extra pointer deref that causes a segmentation fault was a simple cut and paste error that the compiler would have flagged.
"Strong type checking is for developers that have grown up!"
This wouldn't be the first time someone preannounced vaporware to keep thier stock price
from falling throught the floor.
-DF.
What IBM does _best_, is kill a good idea :0).
This is too bad. Real is an evil place. This is a sad day.
If someone as closed minded as you are in your opinion of vi tried to work at my company you wouldn't get in. vi has it's uses. And to someone who has used it for a while, it is most certainly NOT unproductive.
-DF
This contention fails for three reasons.
____________________
20 Def. Mem. at 8-9.
First, defendants have offered no evidence to support this assertion.
Second, even assuming that DeCSS runs under
Linux, it concededly runs under Windows---a far more widely used
operating system---as well.
It therefore cannot reasonably be said that DeCSS was developed
"for the sole purpose'' of achieving
interoperability between Linux and DVDs.
I write vi for UNIX and some one ports it to DOS then itcan not reasonably be said that ...
I wrote vi to have a text editor under UNIX because there are allot mor DOS boxes
Wonder what he's gonna do with all that dough :^)
Since the Millennium is NEXT year we are ok to distribute DeCSS :)?
This is all well and good but the brick and mortar software store is going away leaving only the Insert Category Name Here>.com. Kind of hard to do the above with this trend.
No storage, no PC replacement period.
Thanks for the tip! I didn't realise there was such a standard as streaming MP3! This works with WinAMP under NT, I just tried it. That's it, I now have a legitimate excuse not to visit some sites. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Not all of us.
I am aware that NS4.x is not as standards compliant (especially Cascading Style Sheets ) as IE5. But I don't care. I still use NS4.x at work on an NT box. Why ? Because Microsoft is monopolistic bully whose business practices are repugnant.
For that reason alone I avoid their products whenever possible. It is a simple matter of ethics, continued support for their products is a validation of their business practices. Yes sir, I will use an inferior product if the ethics of the compan with the "better" product is non-existent.
The "free market" yahoos can flame me all they want for this. I run a Microsoft free home and I will keep it that way until I see a real change in their corporate philosophy.
To use this product would be to loose sight of why open-source is the only solution that can save us from a world completely dominated by Microsoft. They can keep their garbage.
An article on this phenomenon or a reference to previous discussion would be nice. How slashdot.org avoids this is indeed a tribute to their setup.
I guess I can get it tonight after the rush is over. The mirrors are crawling too
-DF
No doubt about it! Although the work by the MesaGL group is more in line with some of the more radical among us, there can be no doubt that a Major player like SGI is needed to help lend legitimacy to Linux. Having worked extensively with IRIX in the early 90's I can vouch for the thoroughness and quality of an SGI UNIX implementation. There port of GL GLX, OpenGL to Linux will be top notch. They do good work.
-DF
I would want one of these even if the weigh penalty was 2x!
-DF
Can't wait to wear it.
10 years ago if someone had told me I would become such a geek, I never would have believed them 8^)
Oh well.
-DF
Can't wait to wear it.
10 years ago if someone had told me I would become such a geek, I never would have believed them 8^)
Oh well. -DF
I assume they haven't stripped all the debug/symbol stuff out yet. I can't imagine they would ship an 18M footprint release. The boys in Redmond would jump all over that.
Now that Microshaft has to play the phoenix, Balmer should be at the helm.
By by Bill we wont miss you! ...
"Who will ever need more than 640K"
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Note to Steve B.
I just built a simple app with Kdevelop. Qt spanks MFC so hard it's not even funny! Cut the bundling-tying stuff and get your developers focused on product quality/open standards.
* Kill the COM XML link - Don Box is a moron. And The choice of words! "Manifesto" Duh!
* Continue W3C support - without the politics.
* Port Office to Linux. Keep it closed. I've seen M$ code -FUGLY!
* Change dependency order: Crust. 1. Internal dev. 2. Marketing 3. I would fire marketing but that is probably asking too much.