Every time, these convicted criminals get the breaks, if not from the Justice, then from those supposed to pursue the case to its penalty resolution. Now they are in the position to dictate the terms of their own remedy.
There is a special spot in hell being warmed for these guys!
JWZ himself said it best: linux is only free if your time has no value.
This rates as a troll, or at least startlingly misinformed. JWZ said this circa 1995, when the state-of-the-art in packaging was.TGZ, and the only real configuration tools were XF86Config and vi.
Linux SLS distribution, downloaded from CompuServe, 'cause the file quota on SUTRO, the NeXT cube at SF State was under 2 Mb. Target hardware? 486 33 with 32 Mb Ram and two 200Mb Conner IDE disks - Orchid ProDesigner II, with some ancient S3 chip, and TWO WHOLE Mb VIDEO RAM!
1024x768 interlaced was unbearable on a 13" display... 800x600 got you 65,000+ colours, and FVWM windows that extended beneath the viewable desktop. Ferocious learning curve xf86config and example output files...
God bless 'em! The XFree team had a display server that was able to handle more hardware than any commercial vendor. Sometime in '94-'95 we tweaked this thing onto an uncooperative SCO Interactive/86 installation, and had local display support for a client.
I still scoff madly at the Xinside advertisements that FUD against XFree in the pages of SysAdmin. Writing down to a technical audience... Go figure.
Heard both 'Tridge and Allison speak at different times about how bad the SMB/CIFS documentation is, and that it would be nearly impossible to build a complete interoperable implementation form this so-called 'specification'.
SMB/CIFS wasn't planned as much as serially kludged from DOS/LanMan on through Win2k. MS looks back hopefully on this and re-writes a specification document which does not conform to real behavior 'on the wire'. This was the assertion of Jeremy Allison at an expo event in San Francisco, coinciding with the debut release of Windows 2000.
I was running Rhapsody DR2 on Intel hardware in '98... It was a lot like MacOS X Server: Classic GUI mated to OpenStep 3.x+. OS X Server was around in '99. No Quartz, and incomplete Carbon API, but heck!
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I know I'm just an old whiner, and not part of the hip new Linux scene that never touched sed or awk, but I still think of OS X as OpenStep 5.0. This is the perspective that goes along with Solaris 7 = Solaris 3.0 and Win XP = NT 5.1.
Right you are! MS was going to provide an indexable, DBMS-bases filesystem in the upgrade from NT 3.51. It was on roadmaps at MSWWDC, etc. Marketing discovered all that corporate customers were demanding was the Win95 shell on top of the existing NT, and improved graphics response. Voila! NT 4.0
Interesting to see them run Op-Ed from a lawyer witha grasp on the issue. Of course, Republicans can stand to capitalize on ubiquitous, enencumbered digital media as "Bread and Circuses", while pursuing the corporate agendas of Big oil, etc...
This is their Ball, Bat and Sandlot. It doesn't matter if you are right and they are wrong - the state commission is RIGHT. You said it yourself - your a little guy. The Good 'Ol Boy network is there to make sure an upstart like you doesn't get in on the game, unless they get a cut. If you aren't big enough for a cut, then you don't get to play at all.
No technical definition of software will alter the circumstance, because technical issues are irrelevant to the those controlling the issue. 10,000 USD is a good fee from their point of view. It's much less than the cost of fighting the battle in court - which is also run by more Good 'Ol Boys.
I wish that there was a less pessimistic outlook. Welcome to the gap between perception and reality.
Funny, how much of these historical minutiae about/. stick in memory... These are the remenants of what was my 'goof-off' time at work in those days.
Damned if I can recall half as much detail about what I was really working on at the time! --I convinced the rest of the staff that it was pretty important for me to regularly build the latest 2.1.xx series though!
Yeah, That's kind of me... I had 4 Indigo R4000's (Elan, XS24) plus a R3000 for parts. Then the wife got concerned:-)
I gave one of these to a buddy who has a full VAX. He's the kind of guy who REALLY likes MIPS assembly language. I have an SGI 3030/80 (1984 vintage ATT Unix - pre SCSI) that she wants me to unload - but it still sometimes boots!
Lots of my machines run the original OS - But I have various BSD and Linux running on Sparcs and Alphas. I would go for Linux on the Indigo2, but It seems a real waste of the MaxImpact.
I remember when Slashdot ran on an old Alpha. Rob kept a Multia/UDB 166MHz at his university - This was the original Slashbox. It may have also run "Chips n' Dips"- for you other 'pre-UID' geezers out there.
Even then, Slash traffic was heavy. Mod:perl groaned on this host! It was a testament to the DEC folks that it ran with more than a couple hundred connections at all! After all, the Multia was a severely compromised Alpha design, which mated the CPU to a PC-style I/O bus.
Bandwidth consumption forced the removal of Slashdot to real hosting. Was this in '98? Anyhow, shortly thereafter VA donations (pre Andover) moved Slashdot onto dual PII's, and the mighty growth of Slashcode ensued! That's about the time my own Multia started to overheat and require BLOWING INTO THE CASE before rebooting. I put Debian Ham on a K5, and moved my RISC fetish onto early UltraSparc and SGI R10000.
Who else originally found this place because they were looking for WindowMaker.10 -era related sites, and watched Rob's link collection grow?
Or, you see binary-only packages for user-land DVD support.
Once you have a Time-Warner-AOL sized consumer presence, the barrier for DVD licensees like CyberLink to port Linux/X versions.
Of course, these would be for RedHat/AOL versions - so Debian/Slack/etc users would have to compile equivalent kernel facilities and alien-ate the binary package.
I suppose AOL/TW might be able to add some kind of key-signed binary facility, to ensure that only their distro could support some packages. I do not doubt the ingenuity of next-years CS students in defeating any such measure!
Slashdot Mirror
It's easier to use with one hand than your Workstation?
Or to sneak a quick peek in the weekly team status meeting?
Every time, these convicted criminals get the breaks, if not from the Justice, then from those supposed to pursue the case to its penalty resolution. Now they are in the position to dictate the terms of their own remedy.
There is a special spot in hell being warmed for these guys!
This rates as a troll, or at least startlingly misinformed. JWZ said this circa 1995, when the state-of-the-art in packaging was .TGZ, and the only real configuration tools were XF86Config and vi.
How long is this going to be regurgitated by second-hand accounts of the Unix-Haters (sic.) Handbook?
Do your own thinking, and validate your criticisms. I admire JWZ too, but he has always shot from the hip - and this is just plain stale to boot!
We are more sure than ever of our lack of certainty!
Surely, it's not an AT-bus interface!
1024x768 interlaced was unbearable on a 13" display... 800x600 got you 65,000+ colours, and FVWM windows that extended beneath the viewable desktop. Ferocious learning curve xf86config and example output files...
God bless 'em! The XFree team had a display server that was able to handle more hardware than any commercial vendor. Sometime in '94-'95 we tweaked this thing onto an uncooperative SCO Interactive/86 installation, and had local display support for a client.
I still scoff madly at the Xinside advertisements that FUD against XFree in the pages of SysAdmin. Writing down to a technical audience... Go figure.
Odometer? What's it smell, like?
THAT was cool. Running Mac programs and a term. Didn't they put a knife in this, just as 2.0 was ready fro release?
SMB/CIFS wasn't planned as much as serially kludged from DOS/LanMan on through Win2k. MS looks back hopefully on this and re-writes a specification document which does not conform to real behavior 'on the wire'. This was the assertion of Jeremy Allison at an expo event in San Francisco, coinciding with the debut release of Windows 2000.
Load the tape from a program toggled into the registers from front-panel switches!
Then you might be able to mount a 10 Mb disk!
This was in 1981 still... not the 'dark ages.'
Right you are! MS was going to provide an indexable, DBMS-bases filesystem in the upgrade from NT 3.51. It was on roadmaps at MSWWDC, etc.
Marketing discovered all that corporate customers were demanding was the Win95 shell on top of the existing NT, and improved graphics response. Voila!
NT 4.0
Hey, man! This is /usr/local, not /opt !
Vote Repulsocrat!
This is the problem with focus on single issues.
No technical definition of software will alter the circumstance, because technical issues are irrelevant to the those controlling the issue. 10,000 USD is a good fee from their point of view. It's much less than the cost of fighting the battle in court - which is also run by more Good 'Ol Boys.
I wish that there was a less pessimistic outlook. Welcome to the gap between perception and reality.
Damned if I can recall half as much detail about what I was really working on at the time! --I convinced the rest of the staff that it was pretty important for me to regularly build the latest 2.1.xx series though!
I gave one of these to a buddy who has a full VAX. He's the kind of guy who REALLY likes MIPS assembly language. I have an SGI 3030/80 (1984 vintage ATT Unix - pre SCSI) that she wants me to unload - but it still sometimes boots!
Lots of my machines run the original OS - But I have various BSD and Linux running on Sparcs and Alphas. I would go for Linux on the Indigo2, but It seems a real waste of the MaxImpact.
Even then, Slash traffic was heavy. Mod:perl groaned on this host! It was a testament to the DEC folks that it ran with more than a couple hundred connections at all! After all, the Multia was a severely compromised Alpha design, which mated the CPU to a PC-style I/O bus.
Bandwidth consumption forced the removal of Slashdot to real hosting. Was this in '98? Anyhow, shortly thereafter VA donations (pre Andover) moved Slashdot onto dual PII's, and the mighty growth of Slashcode ensued! That's about the time my own Multia started to overheat and require BLOWING INTO THE CASE before rebooting. I put Debian Ham on a K5, and moved my RISC fetish onto early UltraSparc and SGI R10000.
Who else originally found this place because they were looking for WindowMaker .10 -era related sites, and watched Rob's link collection grow?
Where do you find this Perl of Wisdom? A link, or even a name might be of assistance.
The PDP-11 series were extensively copied in the USSR, as were the IBM 360 mainframes
At half the price, it would still cost two-times too much...
Does anyone have info on this?
Or, you see binary-only packages for user-land DVD support.
Once you have a Time-Warner-AOL sized consumer presence, the barrier for DVD licensees like CyberLink to port Linux/X versions.
Of course, these would be for RedHat/AOL versions - so Debian/Slack/etc users would have to compile equivalent kernel facilities and alien-ate the binary package.
I suppose AOL/TW might be able to add some kind of key-signed binary facility, to ensure that only their distro could support some packages. I do not doubt the ingenuity of next-years CS students in defeating any such measure!
Really, this resides in that remarkable region of human hubris that lies between the rediculous and the irresponsible.
Too bad Clarke's humming, black monolith isn't really around to nanny us.