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Mac OS X Reaches First Birthday
hotsauce writes "Mac OS X is one year old, and the Washington Post has a good summary. What do people think now that we're at the promised '12 o'clock'? What's in the year ahead?" I dunno what's in the year ahead, but as for today, I got a new TiBook and had a kernel panic while watching the This Is Spinal Tap Special Edition DVD.
Where can I get a decent mac laptop for under $2000cdn? Then I would probably get one.
I run a p2/266 laptop right now (in addition to my 800mhz desktop), and want an upgrade, and mac would be kool.
What we see depends on mainly what we look for. -- John Lubbock Now search for that bug slave!
and i get kernel panics everyday with linux kernel 2.4.18, xset dpms on, manually turning off my monitor and waiting one hour. with my g4 i never get a kernel panic. so what.
what's your point?
or are your just lieing?
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
When did Slashdot's OS X section get that lovely makeover? Very nice (subtle as well) - makes a change from the slightly drab standard header graphic at any rate :)
The cheapest one is US$ 1,199, which is about CDN$ 1,798.
If you want more power, I've seen refurbished PowerMac G4/Titaniums in the US$1,500 range, which is about CDN$2,250.
You might have to order from an American reseller to get these prices, and I don't know what duty amounts to, but they're certainly in the ballpark.
Hope that helps.
D
In my [pipe] dreams, I imagine that it'll bring Aqua the speed & usability enhancements that it sorely needs (OSX is a huge step forward architecturally from OS9, but it's a huge step backwards in terms of interface usability & refinement...). In reality, I'd be happy with incremental improvements like a fixed/updated Perl, better Samba support, and a Finder that was just a bit less glacial. Good thing I'm comfortable with the command line -- I feel bad with anyone stuck with having to solely use the Aqua Finder... :/
Anything else on people's wishlists for 10.2?
DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL
that is quite an achievement for apple.
The first beta releases of os x happily coincided with my growing interest in programming. and it was this fortuitous timing that saved me from switching over to linux (which i now use on a server) for me OS X is 100% perfect even with it's little quirks it's the perfect combination of digital media/ office production goodness mixed with an oh so tastey command line interface. i would still be satisfied with this OS if apple froze development and never released another version (well maybe 10.2 would be nice)
So to end this random blabering i say kudo's to apple keep up the good work.
--aiee
you got a kernel panic cos its only OS X
Nigel Tufnel gets upset if he has to play on equipment that doesn't go up to eleven.
That man tried to kill mah Daddy
On the other hand, this guy seems to feel that the combination of Windows-style extensions and MacOS-style application binding leaves the OS X user with the worst of both worlds!
I haven't had a kp since I got my TIG4 55, but I don't use OS9.
Oh, I tested DVD playing with Willy Wonka (Wilder) and CD-R backing up my mod_perl and Perl/CGI source code. No problems.
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
I got my OS X CD in the mail that morning and totally eliminated OS 9 from my machine. That lasted for about 96 hours, when I reformatted the hard drive with partitions for OS 9, OS X, and Documents and other files.
When OS X 10.1 was released, OS X became my primary operating system. As Office v.X and Golive 6 were released, I have found myself starting Classic only to use Photoshop and a 15 year old machine language emulator I need for my computer science class. I have to boot into OS 9 only to sync my Palm m500 with AvantGo.
Once Photoshop 7 is released for OS X and I finish my version of the SC Emulator (which will be open sourced after I get credit for it), I won't have to use Classic at all. And once AvantGo gets off its ass with a version of their conduit for OS X, OS 9 is history!
In that time, I also got dumped by my fiancee and proceeded to get a hot girlfriend who happens to be a complete geek and helps me debug my C++ code in her spare time. Looks like almost everything is looking up!
I've never seen one. Is there a way I cause one?
I will now redundantly add my name to the end of my post. You know, in case you forgot me or something.
What's in the year ahead?
Twelve more months of Taco bitching about the single mouse button.
Oh, and hopefully some rackmountable Apple gear so I can run a server with a little style. I've been hearing rumors from inside the Compound itself...
--saint
Didn't it come out in 1988? And I seem to remember it be resolution-independent back then, but it has now been brain-damaged, like all the other popular OSes (including Linux), a real shame...
hey this is slashdot... the anti-anything but linux site... why not bring linux in? I personally hate linux... which was supposed to take over the MS desktop what was it last year... and the year before... just wanting to point something out.
I managed to get a panic when I accidentally disconnected a file-shared laptop from my G4 - you get printed code over the top of the finder, and a cool repeated pinging sound starts up. OS X rocks - hardly ever goes down, and when it does, it turns into a brilliant machine that goes "ping".....wow.....
Nothing too important here, just putting my thoughts into bytes:
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Last April, I was absolutely thrilled that I could finally use a mac which didn't crash when I moved the mouse too fast.
Initially I was upset that the look of OSX departed from NEXTSTEP, but as the year wore on, I've grown to really love it. There are three things I most like about OSX (apart from the BSD thingie
1. no need to have icons on the desktop (ick!)
2. Mail.app
3. and the browser-finder (cruising around my HDD in OS9 is *such* a regression that for that reason alone I avoid going into it). Heck when an app sez it needs classic, I decide I don't need that app.
People always knock OSX for its lack of drivers and applications... as if it's Apple's responsibility to write drivers for HPs printers. Granted, the lack of drivers hampers adoption and user happiness, but it's a sort of chicken-and-egg question. From the looks of things new drivers are coming on board... YMMV.
Here's to many more years of OSX... it brought me back from my 8-year hiatus from Apple, and equipped with a TiBook, I don't want to ever leave again
Nwanua
I have been happily awaiting Os X development and have held out buying apple products. I even recently bought a new Windows box (1.6 ghz 640mb DDR-Ram, etc.) But, I visited Comp USA today and looked at the new flat Imac and the 22" Cinema Screen dual 1 ghz g4, and I can definitely say that I will be an apple buyer in the near future.
OS X is now just as fast as my Windows XP (and that's FAST), and the Aqua user interface is light years ahead of XP. It is clear why Apple is a true innovator in this industry, and I tell you, Microsoft, you had better watch out. Apple is going to be the next big thing, again.
Check out today's Joy Of Tech, which celebrates this event.
-- The ballad of arrivederci
What did you expect? This is Mac OS Ten, it doesn't go to eleven yet ;-)
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
I still love my PowerBook but it really is painful each time I have a kernel panic or it 'goes away' never to respond until I reboot.
-- SIGFPE
it should be awesome, although sadly I haven't been able to find one yet in the stores. Availability is said to be sometime in April.
1920x1200 resolution is just what I need!
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have a Blue and White G3, running at 333 Mhz. I love it. On the two hard drives on this machine I have OS X, SuSE 7.3, Mandrake (cooker), and Darwin installed on it.
The rundown:
OS X is lovely, but slow slow slow. Even upgraded to 10.1.2 it is still just too damn slow to use. Aside from that, I love the interface and the tools.
Darwin is just too close to BSD. I like to have good configuration tools (aside from vi). Very little documentation, and too much of a learning curve for someone who has more important things to do than configure and administer a BSD box. I admit that I haven't played with it much.
Mandrake is a bit rough around the edges (it is the cooker version, after all). It had the best install of any Linux distribution that I've ever used. I just love the bootloader that it installed. It is a two stage wonder program that lets me pick any operating system that I want.
SuSE 7.3 is a joy to work with. It is responsive, has great configuration tools, has almost every application that I could want, and is just fun to use. I had two problems with it. I can't adjust gamma with XFree 4.x (which is an XFree problem), and it can't run the built in firewire (well it can, but only in raw mode which doesn't do me any good). I solved the firewire problem by buying a cheapo pci firewire card, and it is up and running.
If I had a state of the art Mac I would run OS X in a heartbeat. On my G3, I prefer SuSE 7.3.
The middle mind speaks!
hot geek girls who can code rock tha cazbah.
- heather
(a hot geek girl who codes)
Since they stop putting easter eggs in the software, apple has become serious cutting out all the fun and games. As a result any dvd not labled as a "Drama" "Action/Thriller" or "Mystery" will cause the machine to panic... took me 3 reboots just to make it half way through holy grail :) (j/k... I've never actually /had/ to reboot my os X box, I just boot into linux sometimes to remind myself that I like the way applications actually work together on a stable operating system, instead of no standard ui api in the range of standard unix applications)
Even when it's pretty clear what the extension means, there are still problems. It's a text file, but is it Windows, Unix, or Mac? .DOC probably means MS Word (native format -- there are at least two others) but what version?
The whole idea is just not expressive enough. It's an out of date concept that MS-DOS copied from CP/M (20 years ago!) which copied it from mainframe OSs where nobody had more than a dozen or so file formats.
Now that I understand how it works, I'm inclined to think that OS X's approach is probably the best -- add compatibility with Windows extensions, but continue to use MacOS file typing. But this doesn't change the fact that extensions are a painfully old-fashioned way to track file types.
It has some real bugs that can be show stoppers and is glacially slow on my 333Mhz Powerbook but it is an amazing achievment. Apple has taken an amazing OS -OpenStep - designed a very advanced windowing system on top of it from scratch , designed a complete legacy compatibility API and system, and all this in three years (four now). They have proven themselves to be receptive to issues in general (with some notable exceptions such as the ppp bug).
I suspect that OSX will only improve with time as both optimisations, bug fixes, new features and faster hardware will make most of the present complaints a thinkg of the past.
Of course, that is not to say that those who complain now won't be able to find something to complain about then.
I am looking forward to my new TiPowerBook and my new job as a Mac System Admin.