Huxley probably could imagine an extrapolate automation in labor.
His object was not to demonstrate flaws in a society built on supposed rationality. His target was more basic - that satisfaction of the human condition cannot be met by full rationalization and meeting of physical needs in a structured external world. In fact, the presence of Soma was to indicate a function of SUPPRESSING those human aspects that were entirely unable to be satisfied by the purely rational and practical.
Huxley's target for criticism is not a future, optimized society, but the culture that we live in today, as emerged from the Cartesian revolution - the "enlightenment".
Again, an appreciation for parables is an indication of the capacity for insight.
Marxism is unerring in its diagnosis and analysis. In fact, a fantastic application of scientific method, or at least scientific spirit of inquiry, to political thought. Allowing for the biases and limitations of mid-19th century knowledge.
The problem with Marx and his rational followers is in their prescription for remedy of the ills of class, and unfettered, imperial capital.
Marx's anachronistic history, where he doesn't see class an hierarchy emerging from agrarian technologies and the need to order societies for harvest and surplus, are not too bad a failing. He could not have anticipated the rise of anthropology and of archaeological discovery, as yet unmade.
Science is a tool and a methodology for acquisition and extrapolation of quantitative states. Presuming to base a society solely on quantitative basis, and imagining that qualitative determinations will be irrelevant in the face of self-evident data analysis is fundamentally flawed. By negating the existence of assumptions and bias - and the very real experience of people individually and collectively beyond their units of measure, Tyson proposes a world more deeply subject to unconsious forces - grown more powerful, because they are assumed not to exist!
He should call such a society "Bias-o-topia" NOT "Rationalia".
In the end, his proposal amounts to little more than an elaboration on the fantastic notion that the world should be ruled by measuring tapes and telescopes - perhaps by means of a gearbox.
Allow me two literary examples, that will surely illustrate the quandry better than can I, myself.
First, I propose Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley. Anybody embarking on a discussion of technophillic, purely-rational society without having read this book, speaks from a deficit. That supposedly well-educated men like De Grasse Tyson make shallow, straw-man proposals are a strong argument that Huxley's literary presentation is as valid today, as it was in 1931. Wikipaedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World The full text of the novel: Brave New World
A second point is made metaphorically, by Gothe, in his "Sorcerer's Apprentice". It is a poem, and suffers in English. For the purpose of our argumentation, it is sufficient to be familiar with the presentation of this material in Disney's "Fantasia" - provided that an audience is equipped with an ability to understand allusions, and to make practical intuitions.
In the end, I suppose Dr. De Grasse Tyson - a delightful fellow - is adept at understanding and representing the powerful creative and intellectual efforts of others, while exhibiting little individual insight or power for deep thought.
Not to completely dis Softway, the OpenNT guys. Walli and team were a big part of getting POSIX and ISO reconciled in the 90's.
Here's a recent recounting, from the man who made it happen:
Now, six years later, what if you could properly port all of your business-critical UNIX applications to Windows NT and have them behave with absolute fidelity? And by port, I mean type “make” at the command line and fiddle a bit in an afternoon, not rewrite the application over months of time to Win32. What if you no longer had to buy and maintain outrageously priced hardware from the UNIX system vendors, but could buy PC-class hardware? Microsoft was on an explosive growth curve and Windows NT was a proper operating system. Linux was still very much in its infancy and a long way from being proven. The UNIX Systems Labs v. Berkeley Software Design lawsuit had put a chill over the BSD community.
It's really not particularly different from the old, OpneNT/Interix/SUA subsystem that MS supported for more than 10 years on NT and XP/Win7. They finally admitted to having been handed their asses, and submitted meekly to the idea that the world of Linux kernel development had done a better POSIX implementation than a handful of paid engineers who used to work for Softway.
Now you can run Unity, the sluggish alternative to Gnome, on top of Microsoft's latest offering - famous for continuous 100% disk I/O utilization for system services!
After 20 years involved as a security "pro" for all aspects of operations and development tools support - I concur that the difference between the security mindset and that of other engineering types is a curiosity beyond use cases.
I refer to these snidely, but in earnest, as the "abuse cases".
I would damn you as satire impaired, but this IS slashdot, and there are good odds that you are deeper into the autism disorder spectrum than the usual degree.
We will be so RESTRICTED from artistic and technical INNOVATION that studios will be reduced to producing NOTHING MORE than endless REBOOTS of previously filmed efforts spun-off from ANCIENT COMIC BOOK franchises!
ALL COMMERCIAL MUSIC will be INDISTINGUISHABLE from style and content of hits released circa 2001!
DO YOU WANT TO KILL THIS VIBRANT CULTURE WITH FAIR ACCESS?!!!?
The problem is, everything IS as dire as you portray - but it's not a Manichean fairytale of "high level conspirators against 'Western Civilization"."
This IS the natural fruit of your so-called "civilization". A cursory understanding of history of the "Western" world - from Phoenicia and Greece through Rome, all the Renaissance and "enlightenment" to today - all of it is hardly different from what is portrayed on "Game of Thrones". I can say that without hyperbole.
The idea of "Western Civilization" is just another chauvinism - another mythology by which you are crudely manipulated as a tool of those same forces you imagine to be in "betrayal".
No man in earth understands ANYTHING, until he has insightful awareness that EVERYTHING he knows is WRONG.
Then his eyes may see clearly. He has no solution, but surely understands the nature of things.
FBI spews USUAL fabricated BULLSHIT as "highly confident" "intelligence".
Deeply conflicted individual, drank alcohol. Couldn't recite prayers. Not Muslim to speak of.
The fact is, there is more documentary evidence of his connection with the NYPD than there is for ISIS! LOL. https://t.co/5OcOKyBMe4
Guess what? NYPD thought he was... GAY!
The Pulse is a place this sad young man was found to visit FOR THREE years! The staff knew him as a semi-regular. http://m.palmbeachpost.com/new...
He had a Grindr account. He was closeted and took it out on his wife. He hated other gay people that were happy. That's why he killed them. He was miserable on the inside
Yeah, but "ISIS!"
But you'll fall for anything, won't you? So you get this bullshit: "Clinton calls for escalated violence in Iraq and Syria in wake of Orlando attack" https://t.co/pKBUY6BGv4
That's why it's called brainwashing. You can't even evaluate this contrary evidence. On one hand all defamatory about "big government", until that government is the FBI, telling you your ugly hatred and provincial phobias are valid. Then it's "high confidence".
The only hope for this world is the rapid disintegration and collapse of the United States into a hopeless and internally preoccupied failed state. You can't save a bag of tools this stupid.
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Huxley probably could imagine an extrapolate automation in labor.
His object was not to demonstrate flaws in a society built on supposed rationality. His target was more basic - that satisfaction of the human condition cannot be met by full rationalization and meeting of physical needs in a structured external world. In fact, the presence of Soma was to indicate a function of SUPPRESSING those human aspects that were entirely unable to be satisfied by the purely rational and practical.
Huxley's target for criticism is not a future, optimized society, but the culture that we live in today, as emerged from the Cartesian revolution - the "enlightenment".
Again, an appreciation for parables is an indication of the capacity for insight.
"Time Machine" sounds great, to those who assume they are Eloi.
Marxism is unerring in its diagnosis and analysis. In fact, a fantastic application of scientific method, or at least scientific spirit of inquiry, to political thought. Allowing for the biases and limitations of mid-19th century knowledge.
The problem with Marx and his rational followers is in their prescription for remedy of the ills of class, and unfettered, imperial capital.
Marx's anachronistic history, where he doesn't see class an hierarchy emerging from agrarian technologies and the need to order societies for harvest and surplus, are not too bad a failing. He could not have anticipated the rise of anthropology and of archaeological discovery, as yet unmade.
You assume that you are at least a Beta not a Delta or a Gamma.
Tyson is nonsensical.
Science is a tool and a methodology for acquisition and extrapolation of quantitative states.
Presuming to base a society solely on quantitative basis, and imagining that qualitative determinations will be irrelevant in the face of self-evident data analysis is fundamentally flawed. By negating the existence of assumptions and bias - and the very real experience of people individually and collectively beyond their units of measure, Tyson proposes a world more deeply subject to unconsious forces - grown more powerful, because they are assumed not to exist!
He should call such a society "Bias-o-topia" NOT "Rationalia".
In the end, his proposal amounts to little more than an elaboration on the fantastic notion that the world should be ruled by measuring tapes and telescopes - perhaps by means of a gearbox.
Allow me two literary examples, that will surely illustrate the quandry better than can I, myself.
First, I propose Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley. Anybody embarking on a discussion of technophillic, purely-rational society without having read this book, speaks from a deficit. That supposedly well-educated men like De Grasse Tyson make shallow, straw-man proposals are a strong argument that Huxley's literary presentation is as valid today, as it was in 1931.
Wikipaedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World
The full text of the novel: Brave New World
A second point is made metaphorically, by Gothe, in his "Sorcerer's Apprentice". It is a poem, and suffers in English. For the purpose of our argumentation, it is sufficient to be familiar with the presentation of this material in Disney's "Fantasia" - provided that an audience is equipped with an ability to understand allusions, and to make practical intuitions.
In the end, I suppose Dr. De Grasse Tyson - a delightful fellow - is adept at understanding and representing the powerful creative and intellectual efforts of others, while exhibiting little individual insight or power for deep thought.
Not to completely dis Softway, the OpenNT guys. Walli and team were a big part of getting POSIX and ISO reconciled in the 90's.
Here's a recent recounting, from the man who made it happen:
Now, six years later, what if you could properly port all of your business-critical UNIX applications to Windows NT and have them behave with absolute fidelity? And by port, I mean type “make” at the command line and fiddle a bit in an afternoon, not rewrite the application over months of time to Win32. What if you no longer had to buy and maintain outrageously priced hardware from the UNIX system vendors, but could buy PC-class hardware? Microsoft was on an explosive growth curve and Windows NT was a proper operating system. Linux was still very much in its infancy and a long way from being proven. The UNIX Systems Labs v. Berkeley Software Design lawsuit had put a chill over the BSD community.
https://medium.com/@stephenrwalli/running-linux-apps-on-windows-and-other-stupid-human-tricks-part-i-acbf5a474532#.o7vb5eph9
Now, the POSIX system calls are not run completely in user space.
The SFU/SUA crap did this for Windows since NT 4.
You will NEED the speed - because Win 10 abuses use of hardware to the point of teary-eyed frustration.
There's still FLTK?
Remember the day...
It's linked in the second page attached to this story:
https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/637
It's really not particularly different from the old, OpneNT/Interix/SUA subsystem that MS supported for more than 10 years on NT and XP/Win7.
They finally admitted to having been handed their asses, and submitted meekly to the idea that the world of Linux kernel development had done a better POSIX implementation than a handful of paid engineers who used to work for Softway.
GREAT!
Now you can run Unity, the sluggish alternative to Gnome, on top of Microsoft's latest offering - famous for continuous 100% disk I/O utilization for system services!
Put Ellison's head on a pike, at the Redwood Shores city limits.
Seriously, this should have been done in the 90's.
Yes.
After 20 years involved as a security "pro" for all aspects of operations and development tools support - I concur that the difference between the security mindset and that of other engineering types is a curiosity beyond use cases.
I refer to these snidely, but in earnest, as the "abuse cases".
I mean, If I went around saying I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd say I was barmy.
+++ATH0
I would damn you as satire impaired, but this IS slashdot, and there are good odds that you are deeper into the autism disorder spectrum than the usual degree.
I USED FUNNY ALL KAPZ!
Bob bless Dennis Kitchen.
We will be so RESTRICTED from artistic and technical INNOVATION that studios will be reduced to producing NOTHING MORE than endless REBOOTS of previously filmed efforts spun-off from ANCIENT COMIC BOOK franchises!
ALL COMMERCIAL MUSIC will be INDISTINGUISHABLE from style and content of hits released circa 2001!
DO YOU WANT TO KILL THIS VIBRANT CULTURE WITH FAIR ACCESS?!!!?
You are a melodramatic fantasist.
The problem is, everything IS as dire as you portray - but it's not a Manichean fairytale of "high level conspirators against 'Western Civilization"."
This IS the natural fruit of your so-called "civilization". A cursory understanding of history of the "Western" world - from Phoenicia and Greece through Rome, all the Renaissance and "enlightenment" to today - all of it is hardly different from what is portrayed on "Game of Thrones". I can say that without hyperbole.
The idea of "Western Civilization" is just another chauvinism - another mythology by which you are crudely manipulated as a tool of those same forces you imagine to be in "betrayal".
No man in earth understands ANYTHING, until he has insightful awareness that EVERYTHING he knows is WRONG.
Then his eyes may see clearly. He has no solution, but surely understands the nature of things.
First Woman President? Big deal. First pre-indicted President.
Not like she hasn't already built a throne of children's skulls, and a platform of war crimes, on from which to rule.
I’m sick and tired of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
— John Lennon, Gimme Some Truth (1971)
FBI spews USUAL fabricated BULLSHIT as "highly confident" "intelligence".
Deeply conflicted individual, drank alcohol. Couldn't recite prayers. Not Muslim to speak of.
The fact is, there is more documentary evidence of his connection with the NYPD than there is for ISIS! LOL.
https://t.co/5OcOKyBMe4
Guess what? NYPD thought he was... GAY!
The Pulse is a place this sad young man was found to visit FOR THREE years! The staff knew him as a semi-regular.
http://m.palmbeachpost.com/new...
He had a Grindr account. He was closeted and took it out on his wife. He hated other gay people that were happy. That's why he killed them. He was miserable on the inside
Yeah, but "ISIS!"
But you'll fall for anything, won't you? So you get this bullshit: "Clinton calls for escalated violence in Iraq and Syria in wake of Orlando attack"
https://t.co/pKBUY6BGv4
That's why it's called brainwashing. You can't even evaluate this contrary evidence. On one hand all defamatory about "big government", until that government is the FBI, telling you your ugly hatred and provincial phobias are valid. Then it's "high confidence".
The only hope for this world is the rapid disintegration and collapse of the United States into a hopeless and internally preoccupied failed state. You can't save a bag of tools this stupid.
I run an SGI Indigo R4400 with "Elan" graphics, and a 2nd rev Blue & White Apple G3. ;-)
Now, stop crossing areas of domain knowledge in ways that create false correspondence.
Is the wealthy "Libertarian" way of dictating social standards.