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FBI Director Comey: 'Highly Confident' Orlando Shooter Radicalized Through Internet (cbsnews.com)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via CBS News: FBI Director James Comey echoed President Obama's statement that he does not think the Orlando shooting was a plot directed from outside of the U.S. "So far, we see no indication that this was a plot directed from outside the United States and we see no indication that he was part of any kind of network," Comey told reporters. The intelligence community, Comey said, is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the internet." CBS News reports: "The FBI first became aware of the shooter, Omar Mateen, in May 2013 when he was working as a contract security guard and he made statements that were 'inflammatory and contradictory,' Comey said. Mateen told his co-workers at the time that he had family connections to al Qaeda and that he was a member of Hezbollah. Comey pointed out that Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, is a 'bitter enemy' of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to which he pledged loyalty in 911 calls as the attack unfolded early Sunday morning." According to CNN, at least 50 people were killed inside Pulse, a gay nightclub, marking the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
don't blame the messenger
Along with every other idea anyone has.
More likely than "radicalization" is that he was simply someone with mental problems and a history of spousal abuse and violent behavior who bought into the current rhetoric (originating from Trump, Cruz, Limbaugh and other extreme right-wing sources) against the LGBT community. In his eyes it gave him an excuse to do what he wanted to do, and now we have to clean up the mess.
What I find so amusing about all of this is the people most like to spin stories about every Muslim being a villainous terrorist are also the people most likely to complain about the evil gay lobby.
I love how all the social conservatives who hate Muslims and homosexuals, have now started embracing homosexuals. It's kind of amusing, in a sick and ironic way.
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"So far, we see no indication that this was a plot directed from outside the United States and we see no indication that he was part of any kind of network,"
"highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the internet."
I guess he only went to US based websites to be radicalized. Not to mention the Internet is a network....
Slashdot poster "Fuzzyfuzzyfungus" highly confident that FBI director Jame Comey doesn't appear to know a goddamn thing about the guy his agency investigated at least twice; but knows to blame the 'internet' thing that damn kids are always getting terrorist propaganda and strong encryption from.
All religions are NOT equal.
Deaths from savage Christians angered by Piss Christ: ZERO
Why is it always reported as a gay nightclub and not just a nightclub? I find this annoying, because whether or not it is a gay nightclub is irrelevant to this tragedy.
Our biggest problem now is that people are going to believe this crap, which further cements republican/democrat lock on power and marginalizes the independents. May as well crown Hillary now.
More censorship is on the way. Ad hoc mesh networking will be slow as hell, but it's the only way I know of circumventing the ISPs that will lock down the net.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
It really does. The Abrahamic religions are barbaric. Let's stop passing these dangerous superstitions onto successive generations.
Because he shot the place up because he hated gay people. Duh.
He also had a documented history of racism, which might explain why he went on Latin Night.
Even without the Internet, this guy could've simply attended a talk by an imam:
(This sort of bigoted hatred is Ok, but arguing that sayers of such stuff should be carefully watched would get you banned from Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit.)
At least, he is not blaming an anti-Islam movie by some weirdo...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Let's call religion what it is and stop pandering to it. It's lunacy. Abject, unfounded nonsense that causes people to think that terrible acts are actually good.
Because the terrorist has done shooting in that nightclub because it was a gay nightclub?
The fact that it was a meeting place for gay people was more relevant for him doing the attack than the fact that it was a nightclub.
The guy was a long-time steroid user.
I'm sure that did not help him to remain chill.
what about Our Precious Bodily Fluids?
The Orlando Police are going to be dogged by the 3 hour delay. The FBI decided that they need to get in front of the public first so they can get forgotten first.
Legitimately and eventually, the Orlando police will have to answer the question, why they wait 3 hours. They are tasked with protecting the public. So, here we have a situation where they (officers could be killed) risk life. And they sat back until some huge amount of force was assembled. Meanwhile the victims, and these are not hostages, but actual potential targets, crazy dude gets to shoot people for 3 hours.
If you are a police officer, this is a situation where you surly say, I might get injured/killed, but this is my job. People are being killed, I am tasked with protecting the public. Do firemen wait for the fire to burn out before saving people?
I remember that high-school shooting where rich white kids were being shot. Those police did not wait 3 hours.
Even though law enforcement had insufficient evidence to hold him, he was almost certainly suspicious enough to have his Internet/phone usage and weapons purchases spied on.
Table-ized A.I.
AFAIK, the FBI is still waiting to obtain and decrypt all of the shooters electronic devices. Comey's announcement comes after Obama confidently saying the same thing only this morning. I would not normally expect such a proclamation THE FIRST WORKDAY AFTER THE EVENT. Normally an exhaustive forensic effort would result in some bureaucratic report being generated about a year from now.
Are you fucking kidding? 49 people, almost all who were homosexuals, were killed, in a gay nightclub popular in the area, by a man who, from everything we can gather, had a particular grudge against homosexuals.
But nope, nothing at all to do with gays. Nothing at all.
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That is because leftist media have no clue how to deal with gay rights being stomped on by the religion of peace. What needs to happen is for them to say "yes, we were just pandering to everyone who would give us a vote. Now we don't know what to do"
It's like bitching that everyone talked about all the African-Americans at the Charleston church massacre. After all, they shouldn't be talking about a "black" church....
Fuck me, but there are some really idiotically awful people posting here. I classify them into two groups, and they likely overlap in many cases. One group are the people who hate Muslims, and look for any opportunity to attack them, and the second are people who hate LGBT people, and look for any opportunity to minimize acts of bigotry against them.
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This is nuts. He was apparently interviewed and investigated previously, probably monitored too. Yet he could still buy a weapon and go on a spree. Why is there surveillance again? Now the story implies that more surveillance is required on the internet. Its not working, so stop the surveillance.
Wild claims of association with opposing "extremist"groups + known history of violent and homophobic behavior = hate crime.
Doggedly extrapolating terrorism from above + claims of radicalization through the internet with no reason to think so = typical government tactic to use tragedy to achieve powers no competent organization would need, and that no benevolent regime would even think about.
Like climate activism?
Color me shocked that someone with a username like yours would type a comment like that. Shocked I say!
It is entirely relevant if his motivation was his hatred of gay people. He is said to have flown into a rage after seeing two men kiss in public (the horror!) before he went on this rampage. His self-declared allegiance to ISIS may well be just empty boasting to make himself seem more important than he really was. By all accounts, the guy was just a total loser who wanted to be a cop for all the wrong reasons but was rightly rejected and stuck in a dead-end security guard job. Also, he was a wife beater.
Shut up, APK, err, I mean Taco Cowboy.
Jesus fucking Christ. It was a gay nightclub targeted by a guy who even his father admits had recently become incredibly outraged by the sight of two gay men kissing.
Why is it that certain people are so fucking keen to trying to minimize the anti-LGBT aspects of this crime. It's almost as if they want to be about Islam, or perhaps no matter what it's about, it shouldn't be about homosexuals.
As I say elsewhere, would you complain that the media talked about the attack on a *black* church in Charleston? Do you think that's inappropriate?
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Countries where people don't have such free access to the Internet don't have these kinds of incidents.
Time for to enact controls on this dangerous assault medium.
No one really needs access to that much Internet.
What's up with these web nuts and their weird pastimes anyway?
Isn't it worth it if we can save just one life?
Our cities are bathed in blood and these Internet companies are profiting from it.
The First Amendment mentioned freedom of "the press". There are no printing presses used to make the Internet.
We just want to register and track Internet users.
And subject them to background checks before they can go online.
And prevent them from using dangerous tools like "encryption" to hide their usage.
We've got to close the WiFi loophole that lets people access the Internet without a background check.
Who could argue with these common sense measures?
If you don't agree with this, you have blood on your hands.
the US doesn't have any federal agencies that could have caught this.
Every time there's a major gay pride event, I see no lack of Christians declaring how appalled they are at all the displays of homosexual love. Various turns of phrase amounting to "Why can't those sodomites stay in the closet" usually come out. I've seen no lack of posts around here during my 13 years posting where some posters show considerable hostility to the LGBT community. It was a few months ago that there were many posters declaring their approval for the "birth gender" bathroom law passed in North Carolina.
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We need common sense internet laws. I mean, why does a person even need a 50 Mbps internet connection? You don't need that much bandwidth unless you are planning on breaking the law. If the internet had been better regulated, this man would have never been radicalized.
I was mainly stringing together an argument for the sake of conspiracy theorizing, not establishing any kind of concrete theory that would actually explain anything.
But why can't this be just as much about Islam as anti-gay? The widespread hostility towards homosexuals in the Islamic religion and every major Islamic nation in the world isn't exactly a secret. It's not like a Muslim child of Afghani immigrants solely obtained his ideas about gays watching Fox News and the 700 Club.
There is a 'fundamentalist' LGBT agenda, just like the 'fundamentalist' vegan agenda and many others. The thing that most people can't grasp their head around is that this sort of fanaticism does not REQUIRE religion, and if people don't have religion to throw their fanaticism into, there are lots of other avenues they can take (Look at some of the eco-terrorist groups, some of which even caused ecological damage in their purported attempts to stop other ecological devastation.)
The key problem is people with fanatical beliefs. Just like drinking needs to be done in moderation, so do all other aspects of ones life, including the enforcement of ones beliefs on others. And if that can't be done, then one should recuse themself to a society that better fits their world view, and not leave it to be offended by the outside world.
captcha was 'catalyst'
This is one of those events which can be reported several different ways, depending on the slant of the reporting agency. It can be a story about radical Islam, a story about homophobia, a story about gun control, etc, depending on how they want to cover it. In reality all of those things are true, it's not like there's 1 piece to this story. It's about a homophobic ISIS supporter who had free access to guns and a desire to kill.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Why can't you goddamn Christians shove your religion back in the closet? It would make things quieter and happier for the rest of us.
You can feel free to insert Jew, Muslim, Buddhist(mostly eastern groups), Hindu, SJW, etc there and have it be just as valid, depending on your geographical location.
His father claims that they walked into a bathroom that was an active gay cruise; 'men touching each other' were the words used IIRC.
Still no reason to go crazy with a gun, but truth matters. Who started this 'edit' in the first place and why?
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Why does an ordinary person need that kind of military-style Internet connection anyway?
There is no such thing as a trustworthy spy.
Let's guess, if he was radicalized on "the Internet' maybe we better clamp down on it?
What if he was radicalized on Earth maybe we better clamp down on it?
What if the patsy was driven to kill 50 homos by a spy agency pressuring him over his family's safety and he also hated fags anyway? What if it is just the first mini-9/11 scandal that came to mind in a lie vs lie spy atmosphere?
CIA.
Like Mark Twain said "Common sense ain't that common". Your freedom hating sentiments offend me sir.
...also administered by way of the internet.. a little bit of Bloom County
Do maximize your browser to get this in full size.
Rarely has the dandelion patch been needed as much as these past couple of days.. and this year... and so far, this whole $!@#ing century. I'm so glad Bloom County is back. It was a long dry spell without it. It's only gotten better with age.
I wish I could say the same about the world.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
The sheer fact that you can come up with such nonsense and then throw caution to the wind and post it anyway, makes me want to say that I hope everything you wrote comes true. You're hate filled and projecting.
I didn't say it had nothing to do with gays. I didn't even infer that, so pull your head out of your arse,
I'm saying that as a news headline it's not important. Saying "gay nightclub" is nearly justifying this tragedy on the basis of the kind of people that frequented it. It doesn't. There is no justification for this tragedy.
Apparently knew he was dangerous, knew that he was associating with at least _some_ group that was attempting to "radicalize" him, whatever that means...propaganda is propaganda.
In addition to that we all know full well at this point that if he was "radicalized" through the Internet, it would not only be the responsibility of the NSA to intercept and monitor his communications, it was a certainty. They were monitoring him, they know what sites he was visiting (take a look at Aurora theatre shooter James Holmes' ISP records from the court evidence if you want to see how comprehensive the _public_ information is).
So why didn't they act on any of that earlier? Why did they let him stew for three years, then ultimately kill 50+ people in an attack that could have easily been prevented? If all of this surveillance is supposed to be stopping terrorists, why is it that terrorists are the only ones that it _isn't_ stopping?
People have conspiracy theories about every tragedy, 9/11, Sandy Hook and the like...that's nothing new, conspiracy theories go back a long way at this point. What seems odd to me is nobody considers one in particular...that the US government allowed these attacks to happen. They had full knowledge and advanced warning, they chose not to act upon that information and innocent people died as a result...likely to be used as an anchor for some future war effort. They didn't cover anything up, they weren't responsible, they just ignored the threat until it became real.
I'm guessing once Obama is finished looking sternly off-camera he'll spend his lame-duck days toward the end of his term passing as many gun control laws as possible. Whether it's right or wrong I can't say...I don't actually live in the U.S. It does seem, however, that if one wanted to take guns away from legal owners...allowing an attack like this would be a good way to make it happen. Make it more difficult for citizens to protect themselves, of course; the people committing these attacks have access to whatever weaponry they choose, legally owned or otherwise. There's a concerted effort at work to take away the right of U.S. citizens to defend themselves...against anyone, foreign or domestic threats. The only people capable of defending themselves will be the military and the police, which are increasingly hard to distinguish from one another in equipment or tactics. What happens then?
I'd imagine nothing good. Part of the reason one of the earlier shooting massacres was stopped (Charles Whitman in Texas for example), was that other citizens had the means to fight back. What state would the country be left in if they didn't have the ability to fight back, if they were completely at the mercy of both the government _and_ its enemies?
Why is it mentioned? Simple, because a minority group was specifically targeted by a bigoted madman who ended their lives just because he didn't care for how they we born. Since his vicious hatred for a specifically identifiable group was one of the main driving forces behind his aggression, it is reasonable to mention which group was attacked so that we as a society can begin looking into the problem. Unless you can identify the problem, name it, address it, and then investigate it, you will never develop an effective means of combatting it.
While we could say that all bigotry comes from the same stock, that being class hatred, each of these differing types of bigotry have a variety of catalysts and sources of origin. For instance, hatred of the LGBT community finds its source mainly in religious ideologies and doctrine, as opposed to racial hatred, which, although there are some religious sources of bigotry, is driven mainly by ideas of racial superiority, ignorance, and other factors.
To solve a problem, we must first identify the problem. To identify the problem, we must specify where the problem exists, which, in this case, means we must highlight both the location and its ties to the LGBT community so that we can begin dealing with the specific form of hatred and bigotry that drove this monster to commit this atrocity.
Who wants to bet that the FBI is highly confident because one or more of their agents were the ones that radicalized him? It is their standard MO these days, after all.
and its called the Internet.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Because "anti-Gay" isn't limited to Muslims, and there are many groups in America, many mainstream groups, who make extremely strident anti-gay comments. Do they wish to kill all the gays, well, most of these groups don't, but when you have groups as diverse as the Catholic Church, the Church of Latter Day Saints and several Evangelical churches battling LGBT rights at every turn, you can see that the sentiments of Omar Mateen fall at one end of a continuum, a continuum that is much broader than just Muslims.
Judging by Mateen's history, including spousal assault, we're likely dealing with a person with serious anger issues, who was clearly raised by a bigoted man, and we all know from the history of racism in America that men like this will often turn to violence, whether that's shooting up African-Americans in a largely black church in Charleston, SC, or, in this case, targeting a gay club in Orlando, FL. I imagine if you looked at the history of racial attacks in America, you'd find a lot of Mateens out there, though the religious affiliation will more often be some breed of Southern Baptist. But, of course, now apparently all the God-fearing Evangelicals have decided that gays aren't too bad, when it's the much-feared Muslim doing the shooting.
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And yes, I know being gay isn't a race, but it is an identifiable group, and one that has been the subject of a lot of violence and persecution, both from the State, and from various bigoted groups looking to keep the LGBT in the closet.
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So, for all the surveillance capabilities that the FBI, NSA etc have, they still weren't able to prevent this. So what f*#ken use is it ?
Why even call it a nightclub at all? Just call it a building, because whether it is a nightclub or not is irrelevant.
At least limit how many YouTube clips a browser can load at a time. Can't we all agree that no one needs that many rounds of cat videos on the same day?
> invoke conspiracies like the "Gay agenda", to constantly promote fear and, yes, hatred, needs to be confronted.
What conspiracy? There is, in fact, a dedicated PR campaign going on for gay rights (like the regular reports that "[celebrity] has come out as being gay", gay pride parades, etc.). This has, in fact, been going on for decades. There are, in fact, gay rights groups pushing for gay rights and there have been for ages.
To deny that this exists is quite simply to deny that gay rights activists have actually been doing anything all these years. When you look at the social changes in the past decade, doesn't that seem just a little bit silly?
Saying it was the internet is like saying it was over the telephone or a pen pal in the 70's and 80's. Of course it was over the internet but what part. I've seen some articles that say he had a grinder account and was a regular at that club. The clueless noobs they have in charge at the FBI just need fade out and blow away.
Narrative first, facts later. Feel first, then fit the facts to your feeling. Welcome to Weimar America.
What outlet of the media are you watching where you feel it sounds like the shooting is justified?
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He didn't get himself killed because of his religion. He decided to commit suicide by cop, and Islam just gave him a way to convince himself it was justified. If he weren't religious, he still probably would have killed himself, but with most likely a lower body count.
How can somebody be radicalized by a series of tubes invented by Al Gore? Was it through The Google? I know how to fight this. Let's send in the hockey moms!!!!!!
I said "nearly justifying". I'm saying that I don't think the word "gay" should be in headlines because it's not the cause of this tragedy.
> Ah yes, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion may not be true, but, y'know, there's this Jewish PR campaign...
Why, precisely, do you believe they were complaining about the actions of mythical homosexual rights groups instead of the groups that actually existed and did stuff?
Why even refer to the building? It can just be reported as "Several people of unimportant sexuality in a place in Orlando, Florida were killed by a MUSLIM!!!!!"
You know, political discourse was well-nigh retarded before Trump. Now it's literally at a level where it requires no higher brain function at all, just regular firing of the amygdala when the words "Muslim" or "Mexican" are mentioned.
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So, FBI Director James Comey announces that he is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the internet." Hmmm, gotta pass that through the Comey BS Filter:
- OK, the internet. Most people have that. It's plausible even for ordinary citizens;
- Yeah, but this is James Comey (liar!);
- Could Comey have this information already? It's really early in the investigation;
- On the other hand apparently the FBI had already investigated the killer;
- OK, but the FBI is huge and bureaucratic. Could it talk to itself quickly enough that the Director could make this statement, based upon actual evidence?
- Is there a political angle here for the FBI? After all, they are still pissed about Apple not unlocking that iPhone for them;
- That's it! Comey gets to portray the internet as "dangerous" and "radicalizing". Thus the FBI needs new surveillance authority to look out for all those lone wolf terrorists they haven't caught (and won't catch, with or without the new surveillance authority).
The guy was gay. Enough said. Everything else is lies.
" gay nightclub and not just a nightclub? "
Cause if you're straight and going nightclub to get laid, you're penetration rate is significantly less at a gay bar.
FBI spews USUAL fabricated BULLSHIT as "highly confident" "intelligence".
Deeply conflicted individual, drank alcohol. Couldn't recite prayers. Not Muslim to speak of.
The fact is, there is more documentary evidence of his connection with the NYPD than there is for ISIS! LOL.
https://t.co/5OcOKyBMe4
Guess what? NYPD thought he was... GAY!
The Pulse is a place this sad young man was found to visit FOR THREE years! The staff knew him as a semi-regular.
http://m.palmbeachpost.com/new...
He had a Grindr account. He was closeted and took it out on his wife. He hated other gay people that were happy. That's why he killed them. He was miserable on the inside
Yeah, but "ISIS!"
But you'll fall for anything, won't you? So you get this bullshit: "Clinton calls for escalated violence in Iraq and Syria in wake of Orlando attack"
https://t.co/pKBUY6BGv4
That's why it's called brainwashing. You can't even evaluate this contrary evidence. On one hand all defamatory about "big government", until that government is the FBI, telling you your ugly hatred and provincial phobias are valid. Then it's "high confidence".
The only hope for this world is the rapid disintegration and collapse of the United States into a hopeless and internally preoccupied failed state. You can't save a bag of tools this stupid.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
Just don't think they should be able to coop the term marriage. They can have all the same rights, just call it something besides gay marriage. Also think husband and wife should be used for a man and a woman exclusively. Be creative, come up with some terms that won't confuse everyone when you bring your wife Bob to the family reunion. Most people supported civil unions but that wasn't enough. Now people are being sued for not baking a cake.
I'm also against the current argument that transsexuals can choose the bathroom they feel most comfortable using. I do support allowing people to change their sex, but it needs to be a legal proceeding. Otherwise, they may as well say anyone can use any bathroom, shower facility, etc because anyone at any time can say they feel like a person of the opposite sex. I don't hate gays, just don't agree with their agenda.
Same with Muslims, don't hate them, but not going to turn a blind eye to their religious and political tenants (Islam is both a religion and system of governance). There are lots of Muslim countries and they all seem to have serious issues with their non-Muslim neighbors. And there are Muslim insurgents in secular nations that are trying to turn those into Muslim countries. It is they that have divided the world into the part of peace (Islamic) and war (non-Islamic). They fight amongst themselves because Shia and Shite don't recognize the other as being proper Islam (and thus the other is in the region of war). I also don't like their stance on women and the wearing of the hijab, that they don't allow people to leave Islam (which is un-American), that they do not assimilate, that there are millions who support the tactics of terror, that they blow up and destroy historical and cultural artifacts (especially if they are of another religion), that the rules for their behavior changes if they are in the region of war (allowed to drink, lie, steal, have gay sex, etc if it is in support of Jihad) and I could go on. But I don't hate them, just want them to modernize and reform, which is unlikely cause apostasy is a death sentence in Islam.
BTW, all of your long posts about history are really insensitive. This Muslim inspired massacre occurred this week, not centuries ago.
What was the cause then? Darts thrown at an unmarked map?
It is because it caters to a minority that is often the object of hate crimes. If it were a Jewish nightclub and this happened they'd probably mention it was Jewish. If it was a club for young teens they'd mention that. If you just say nightclub it suggests there's no specific demographic that goes there. LGBTQ people would want to know that information. It also happened during Pride week. Like it or not, it's relevant.
what better than a faggot to know what another faggot is thinking
and after all, the F from fbi comes from faggot, right?
Ok, I get the +3 score. What I don't get is "Insightful" instead of "Funny". Is that meta-sarcasm?
Better question: Why can companies sell you 50 Mbps internet connection, when it's really 0-1 Mbps?
The word "radicalized" has no good meaning other than being word laden with negativity, and I'd claim that "radicalized" isn't useful a word for discussing anything if one can't possibly understand what it means except for the eye of the beholder of the arguments, or their supporters.
Or PETA. Or any other of dozens of crazy people who need a cause and don't give a shit whether it's a religion or some kind of social thing.
How about the part where it appears the guy was pretty much closet himself, but likely couldn't come out because the believe system he was raised under basically meant that he would go to hell if he was homosexual?
This explains my T-mobile internet speeds.....
Seriously, a waiting period on guns does nothing, most of the Orlando shooting victims were killed because someone (co-conspirator?) locked them inside the building with the a$$hat that was murdering people; but it does not seem to be a crime to bar the exit doors during an emergency, or even a fire.
They guy himself was gay. A homosexual muslim shot up a nightclub to buy his way into heaven and make up for his past sins. If a black man shot up a black church because he was conflicted about his race you wouldn't paint the story as a generic racism tragedy.
Firstly, laws change, so when they do, do you really want to be handcuffed by shitty download speeds?
Secondly, not all laws are moral, and so long as I feel no compulsion to abide by immoral laws, then having the means by which to break those immoral laws is necessary.
How many NON-Muslims have committed mass murder because they learned it on the Internet?
There have been a few, but still a very disproportionate amount of MUSLIMS.
Muslims learn these evil radical ways from exactly TWO locations.
1. Their family
2. Their mosque.
From the way the Father talked, I would say he is proud his son died in Jihad.
Brain dead people in govt nowadays think trying to block access to information and technology is going to give them control back.
Coomey's FBI called off the dogs when they knew this guy was a problem. They passed on denying his security guard license and gun permits when they had reasonable cause to do so. Rather than stand accountable and adjust FBI policy to prevent the same errors in the future, he blames the Internet. What an incompetent, bed wetting twit!
Like climate activism?
I don't recall ever hearing about anyone yelling "AlGore Akbar" before driving their Prius into a coal mine.
Right let me get this accusation straight. You are accusing me and others who have a 70 Mbps connection of planning to break the law? I would really love to hear how you figured that one out. I have a family of four and one guest connection in addition. We play lot's of online games and voip and watch lots of streaming movies, listen to endless streaming music and there's sometimes telecommuting, for file transfer etc. We often do this on separate machines and not in the same room. Sometimes when the IP block is busy it can slow down so I'd rather take a higher bandwidth package to compensate so that this never happens to me. Tell me again that I don't need a 50 plus Mbps connection just for lawful purposes? Maybe this use case was something you didn't quite think of? Yes I'm posting as anon, why log in for one comment? I hope this has answered your question.
derpy derp, "But it must be the internet that is to blame, since I'm FBI, and we can't control it, I guess it's the internet that's to blame." - FBI DIRECTOR COMEY
You interviewed this subject 3 different times, you missed all the signs, and you turn to blame the "INTERNET" for his RADICALIZATION?
How can you blame an inanimate object for your failing to ask the right questions, turn over the right stone, or actually find any evidence?
It takes a certain kind of man to stand up in front of the world and say what your speechwriter wrote for you, but it takes a LESSER MAN to stand up and do it when he knows it's completely UNTRUE. Sad day Director Comey, sad day.
PROTIP: You are responsible for your actions and your words, regardless of your office, position, or who writes them for you. Perhaps it's time you re-evaluate your life, your career choice, and the lies you pursue. Best of luck to Director, I hope you and I never meet, I have enough evil liars in my life today.
It's often used in the context of "there's no gun problem, there's a gay problem". *you* are safe. It's just that those homos have pissed off God and get what they are due.
Yes, it has to do with "gays" in that it happened in a gay nightclub done by someone with a problem with gays, but that's not the story. It was a human that killed humans. That's the story. The adjectives are there to diffuse and deflect.
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fuck the press do your own research this is not the worst shooting in the USA.
Of course the government blames the Internet. This gives them leverage to install backdoors on your computer, and issue warrantless searches on your commumications. Civil liberties are being destroyed over these lies.
Everyone knows the real solution is to ban assault weapons.
The internet is a tool, a communications device, a form of transit for information. It doesn't have an intent, it doesn't have an agenda, it doesn't have a motive. The internet didn't radicalize anyone. Someone USED the internet to feed and find fuel for their own hatred, bigotry and twisted desires. The internet didn't do it, don't blame the internet. The shooter did this, and all blame lies with the shooter. The internet only gives you what you ask from it.
Since 1971 OPEC is being bullied to sell Oil exclusively in US dollars resulting in friction between 1.8 billion Muslims Worldwide and The West;
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Casteism
What the fuck are you even on about, besides showing how fucking stupid you are? Next time a Muslim kills a Christian, should we go around saying what huge fucking douchebags *Atheists* are, always talking about how they are so oppressed by Christians and their concepts of morality? Should we then tell you that you're fucking complicit in the murder of Christians because they don't follow your bullshit moral standings of "If someone tells a lie enough times, it becomes truth! I said I'm a woman, so I can go into the bathroom and take pictures of women, LEGALLY PROTECTED!"
Fuck you. Fuck your enmity for truth -- because when you scream and shit your pants that your lies must be accepted, then TRUTH is your enemy. Dumbass fucker.