In order for this to be some sort of holy Open Source movement, you people need to understand a fundamental part of civil disobedience--you're wiling to go to jail for what you believe in.
I wish I had moderator points right now.
Very well put.
I believe in Free Software, too... but this is something that you've forced me to think about.
Why was the choice made to use one beefy-as-hell SQL server instead of multiple lesser powered systems?
Because the server processes don't need to talk to each other, but the database processes do.
You usually go with multiple web servers because the box doesn't necessarily need to be all that fast. It doesn't make sense to spend 5 figures on a beefy multi-processor box that you use as a front-end for querying a beefy multi-processor database box when a few cheap $400 eMachines (yes, I know they're shit, from personal experience) will give you equivalent performance. So you put a load-balancer in front of your multiple web servers, and they all serve, and query the SQL box.
OTOH, you really have to have a database all in the same box. You have multiple database processes, all with different information, writing and updating to disk. Not to mention the info that's cached in memory to speed up performance (so you don't have to keep hitting the disk). In this case, you want the largest box you can afford, with multiple processors, a gig or two of RAM, SCSI disks, etc, to make it as fast as possible, since it really needs to be one box.
In all seriousness, I wasn't trying to attack Microsoft on the merits of DOS and Win3.x (which, I'll admit, seemed nifty to me at the time), but rather to inject a little humor into my comment.:)
Geeks out of school shuddered--they(and *I*) knew deep down that we got out just in time, but there were those we left behind.
My God, Effugas. I actually shuddered while I was reading what you wrote. Because although I came realtively late to Slashdot, I understand. One day, I decided to check out that "Hellmouth" thing that was in the column on the right-hand side of the front page (somebody referenced it in one of their posts for a story and I finally was curious enough to check it out).
I read every posting in it. Then I read the next story in the series. And then the final one. And I could feel what the posters had felt. Because I'd experienced much of the same myself.
I was kinda haunted by the Hellmouth series. I remember watching the newsclips on TV (I was in a hotel in New York, for some training for work). I saw the fear and the confusion on the faces that appeared before me on the screen. I knew that things must have been horrible there, and I thanked God that that never happened at my school.
But I didn't think about the "other" angle until I read the Hellmouth trilogy. I had no idea that that sort of witchhunt was going on in schools around the country. I just turned 22 last month, so I was only a couple years out of high school when the whole thing happened. And I can't help but be haunted by the thought that were I still in school, my life might've been made a living hell.
<ficticious possibility> Random school teacher/administrator: So how does everyone feel about the tragedy at Columbine? Me: I think it's terrible. I feel badly for the victims. But I can also understand how the shooters must've been feeling, because I've heard that they were teased constantly. </fictitious possibility>
This needs to be heard. The story is begging to be told. Don't confine it to our own little intellectually-inbred mentally-masturbating clique. We already know this stuff; it's the rest of the world that must hear this. To confine this to Slashdot is to effectively silence the very Voices that are screaming to be heard.
Rob, Jeff, and the rest of you: Please don't silence the Voices.
I like the fact that it's pointed out (I forget if it's on the linked site or not, but it was pointed out in another weblog that I read, anyway) that somehow if fans give your work to each other, it becomes a commodity, while if you sell it, it is art.:)
Just so no one gets the wrong impression: I do feel that copyrights need to be respected.
Oops, pardon the double post... I'm at work on an old SPARCstation IPX running Netscape 3... Anyway, I previewed, but when I submitted I didn't notice that NS had stripped out the HTML tags from the text box. Anyway, here it is again, properly formatted:
*One* Server holds the master file?
An old legend...
One Server to hold the file One Server to find them One Server to serve them all And in the darkness BIND them...
*One* Server holds the master file? An old legend... One Server to hold the file One Server to find them One Server to serve them all And in the darkness BIND them...
Don't most browsers have a preference setting that lets you disable sending a referrer? (Just asking, since mine does.)
I don't know about "most" browsers. But "most" of the general population would never have the idea of diabling it occur to them. Unless tickets.com published instructions stating "If the ticketmaster.com home page appears instead of the concert ticket page, hit 'Back' in your browser, then go to Edit|Preferences...":) Yeah, I can definitely see that happening.;)
You can never, ever trust a client. All clients should be considered hostile.
I think that what he was referring to didn't have anything to do with copyrights. Picture this: You run a server at foo.com. That guy over at bar.net has an image you want to use, and it's on one of his servers. So what you do, instead of copying it to your server and linking via <img src="http://images.foo.com/graphics/picture.jpg">, you link it with <img src="http://www.bar.net/graphics/images/picture.jp g">. Of course, this means that you don't use your own bandwidth to serve it up, but the other guy's bandwidth instead. Side note: I head a story about a webmaster who was moving around some directories on her server, and started getting 404s in her logs. She discovered that some other site was linking images off of her server in-line on their pages. The graphics were just bullet buttons, but it still pissed her off. She wound up creating some new graphics with the same names as the old ones, and in the same location, only the new ones contained text such as "We are lame" and "We are such losers" and stuff like that.:)
You (CmdrTaco) prejudice the question by comparing "please don't spider this page" with "you may not link this page".
Um, actually, no he doesn't. The difference is that Ticketmaster was trying to enforce the former, and the robots.txt "standard" is a convention that is followed by spidering programs. It's perfectly possible to write a spidering program that does whatever the hell it wants regardless of what the robots.txt file says.
Anyway, what's the big effing deal? Why didn't Ticketmaster just configure their http server to redirect all traffic with a referer [sic] header of *.tickets.com so that instead of seeing http://www.ticketmaster.com/some/really/really/dee p/link.html, it would send you to http://www.ticketmaster.com/ ? That's a much better solution than litigous legal battles. Silly corporations, dirty tricks are for kids!
I chopped the end off the URL bit by bit, until I was at the domain. No dice. I did a Google search and it pointed to the same domain; is the server down or Slashdotted or something?
I want to try Beos. Does anyone know if the free release is out yet? I'm to lazy to go look.:)
http://free.be.com says it'll be available for download on March 28. Interestingly enough, when SuSE announce 6.4 last week, they made it March 27th. Hmm...:)
Since when did these chaps become "security experts" Anyone ever heard of them. Just for the purpose of comparison I did a quick poll of my chums and came up with this: 1 operations manager 1 senior DBA 1 dev manager 1 senior systems engineer
...the look on their faces when you crack their systems: priceless.
Damn, you beat me to that point. Let me point out, though, that one could have, say, a Linux kernel with proprietary "everything-else". That would be as close to a "proprietary Linux" as one could get, I presume.
They didn't mention BSD, though. A BSD-style license would definitely allow a proprietary BSD to develop. Of course, the article was about Linux (to grab more eyeballs, I presume), so it's only logical that they didn't mention this. (It's also logical, given the free-software antagonistic viewpoint of the article, that they conveniently "forgot" the GPL.)
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Very well put.
I believe in Free Software, too... but this is something that you've forced me to think about.
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You usually go with multiple web servers because the box doesn't necessarily need to be all that fast. It doesn't make sense to spend 5 figures on a beefy multi-processor box that you use as a front-end for querying a beefy multi-processor database box when a few cheap $400 eMachines (yes, I know they're shit, from personal experience) will give you equivalent performance. So you put a load-balancer in front of your multiple web servers, and they all serve, and query the SQL box.
OTOH, you really have to have a database all in the same box. You have multiple database processes, all with different information, writing and updating to disk. Not to mention the info that's cached in memory to speed up performance (so you don't have to keep hitting the disk). In this case, you want the largest box you can afford, with multiple processors, a gig or two of RAM, SCSI disks, etc, to make it as fast as possible, since it really needs to be one box.
HTH.
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I read every posting in it. Then I read the next story in the series. And then the final one. And I could feel what the posters had felt. Because I'd experienced much of the same myself.
I was kinda haunted by the Hellmouth series. I remember watching the newsclips on TV (I was in a hotel in New York, for some training for work). I saw the fear and the confusion on the faces that appeared before me on the screen. I knew that things must have been horrible there, and I thanked God that that never happened at my school.
But I didn't think about the "other" angle until I read the Hellmouth trilogy. I had no idea that that sort of witchhunt was going on in schools around the country. I just turned 22 last month, so I was only a couple years out of high school when the whole thing happened. And I can't help but be haunted by the thought that were I still in school, my life might've been made a living hell.
<ficticious possibility>
Random school teacher/administrator: So how does everyone feel about the tragedy at Columbine?
Me: I think it's terrible. I feel badly for the victims. But I can also understand how the shooters must've been feeling, because I've heard that they were teased constantly.
</fictitious possibility>
This needs to be heard. The story is begging to be told. Don't confine it to our own little intellectually-inbred mentally-masturbating clique. We already know this stuff; it's the rest of the world that must hear this. To confine this to Slashdot is to effectively silence the very Voices that are screaming to be heard.
Rob, Jeff, and the rest of you:
Please don't silence the Voices.
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Um, they've already said that the full text of the book will be available online.
So I fail to see why you're making such a BFD on that particular point.--
I was actually referring to Kuro5hin, though.
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Just so no one gets the wrong impression: I do feel that copyrights need to be respected.
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I'm at work on an old SPARCstation IPX running Netscape 3... Anyway, I previewed, but when I submitted I didn't notice that NS had stripped out the HTML tags from the text box. Anyway, here it is again, properly formatted: An old legend...
One Server to hold the file
One Server to find them
One Server to serve them all
And in the darkness BIND them...
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Picture this: You run a server at foo.com. That guy over at bar.net has an image you want to use, and it's on one of his servers. So what you do, instead of copying it to your server and linking via <img src="http://images.foo.com/graphics/picture.jpg">
Side note: I head a story about a webmaster who was moving around some directories on her server, and started getting 404s in her logs. She discovered that some other site was linking images off of her server in-line on their pages. The graphics were just bullet buttons, but it still pissed her off. She wound up creating some new graphics with the same names as the old ones, and in the same location, only the new ones contained text such as "We are lame" and "We are such losers" and stuff like that.
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Anyway, what's the big effing deal? Why didn't Ticketmaster just configure their http server to redirect all traffic with a referer [sic] header of *.tickets.com so that instead of seeing http://www.ticketmaster.com/some/really/really/dee p/link.html, it would send you to http://www.ticketmaster.com/ ? That's a much better solution than litigous legal battles. Silly corporations, dirty tricks are for kids!
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If they did, then they'd know how "insecure" Open Source is. :)
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They didn't mention BSD, though. A BSD-style license would definitely allow a proprietary BSD to develop. Of course, the article was about Linux (to grab more eyeballs, I presume), so it's only logical that they didn't mention this. (It's also logical, given the free-software antagonistic viewpoint of the article, that they conveniently "forgot" the GPL.)
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