"Security needs to be built into the architecture of the operating system. This cannot happen if your source code is publicly available."
It's nice to see independent peer review confirming what we here at your Friendly Local Microsoft Business Office (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) have been saying for years. You need to ensure that the source code to your Operating System (tm) stays out of the hands of the so-called "hackers" whose only aim is to break into your system and steal your important data.
What is the best way to do this? You need to ensure that the source code to your Operating System (tm) is in the hands of a neutral third party: Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending). We've been doing this for years. We ensure that nobody outside of our Company (tm) knows about any bugs that may or may not be in our Closed Source Code (tm). And because every Operating System (tm), as long as it is designed by humans, will have security holes, we ensure that each Service Pack (tm) will not only plug the old security holes, but also will introduce new ones that no one yet knows about. This, friends, truly is Quality (tm); there will always be security flaws, but don't you sleep better at night knowing that for the time being, the only party who knows about them is a name you can trust? And that so-called Operating System (tm) (we are investigating a trademark infringemnt lawsuit over the unauthorized use of a registered Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) trademark) designed by one Mr. Linux Torvalds has new security holes discovered at least once a week! You don't hear about Windows NT (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) security holes for months sometimes!
In closing, permit me to thank you for your continued patronage of Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending), or your imminent switch to a Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending)-based Operating System (tm).
Sincerely, Mr. L. Mer Fudd, Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) Assistant Vice-Presidential Director of Marketing-Type Activities
at least then you could cut down on negative moderation, and spend more time picking out the gems to help point out what has higher priority over the average post (score 2 and above)
Just read at level 2 and higher, then. That's what I have saved as my default, and if you like score 2 and above, you should too. (See the "Save" checkbox up there next to the menus and the Reply and Change buttons? Click that before you hit Change.)
That's about the best you can do. You occasionally *will* miss out on good stuff that hasn't gotten moderated up yet, and obvious parody that's really funny that got moderated down as a troll or flamebait, but the SNR is oh-so-much-better.
And you can't even get the files from an RPM without serious black magic...
Slackware itself has two scripts, rpm2tgz and rpm2targz, which create tarballs with the.tgz and.tar.gz extensions, respectively. (They're really the same script, the former being symlinked to the latter.)
The scripts do a little black magic;) with rpmoffset (never heard of it and no man pages), cpio, dd, and, of course, tar and gzip.
Maybe they've made some improvements with the sys admin features in Yast.
Possibly -- I'm not sure how new YaST2 is (new SuSE user -- running it alongside Slack 7 and [ahem] another operating system), but in the 6.3 box set I got (this very week no less;) ), there was a note included that said they found a bug right before it shipped. The note basically said, "Don't use YaST2 if you're going to install LILO in the superblock of your/boot partition."
So I used YaST1. And I gotta say, the install was really nice. (Really got into Linux last August and started with Slackware.) YaST is such a slick little tool -- just about everything went as smooth as silk.
BTW, how is SuSE pronounced? Is it soo'-suh (as in John Philip $_)? soo'-zee? soos'? Haven't quite figured it out yet...
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Why is this a problem with the others? I'm not aware of any current distributions that ship GNOME but not KDE.
Debian is the one that springs prominently to mind. To my knowledge, they're not including it because of the conflict that the GPL has with Qt (which is non-free [speech]).
Or do they include it in the non-free tree? I just visited their ftp site and could not find it.
Linux is an operating system - software that helps applications and hardware work together - related to UNIX.
Great! This means that I don't have to put up with either the bugginess/instability of Microsoft OSs, or with the complexity of Linux, or use any OS for that matter.
And the only reason I'm replying is to expand your horizons a little bit.
Faithfulness doesn't necessarily mean sexual monogamy. Since we both like women, we plan to do a little swinging, menage-a-trois, etc. And to answer that question that I know is burning in your mind, I'm not opposed to a menage-a-trois with a male, either.
Besides, even if not for the above, she still wouldn't necessarily be "screwing around on me" -- I've already told her that I don't consider her going after it with another woman to be cheating, even if I'm not there. Yes, I'm secure enough with myself that it doesn't bother me. No, I'm not secure enough that it wouldn't bother me if she went and screwed another man.
Yes, we have limits. (No vaginal intercourse between parties other than the two of us during a menage-a-trois, for example.) But that doesn't mean that we're also not able to give each other some freedom.
Another thing you failed to consider was polyamory. Since the ultimate reason why it hurts so much when someone is cheated on is not the sex but the lies and the breaking of trust, a polyandrist "screwing around" on their partner, while technically accurate, is a misnomer, insofar as the word is emotionally loaded.
As for drawing inaccurate conclusions based on extremely narrow world views, I feel compelled to direct your insult right back at you.
troll: 1. a.To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat. b.To fish in by trailing a baited line: troll the lake for bass. c.To trail (a baited line) in fishing. etc...
BTW, this (or some variation thereof) works at a lot of "free registration required" sites. cipherpunks, cypherpunks, cipherp, cypherp... Get creative.:)
Now, what is the FSF model of making money from writing documentation?
I would imagine that it would be quite similar in some respects to the way to make money writing GPLd code.
Consider this: Many companies (I don't think I need to name Red Hat here) pay people to write code that's to be released under the GPL. It doesn't seem too unreasonable to me to assume that they would pay people to write the free documentation (under the FDL) the same way that they pay people to write free software. It's rather complementary, IMO.
Something else: What about documentation that's been languishing for several revisions of the software? If this license becomes widely used (which I suspect it will, eventually, because of the reputation of RMS), then it would be no problem to just hire somebody to modify the documentation, much the same way as, say, ESR became the maintainer of popclient. (In fact, you wouldn't need any permission; ESR sought this from popclient's previous maintainer out of tact.) This could also simplify matters for the LDP if they decide to standardize on this license (much as they standardize on the file formats they accept).
You give the documentation away, and you make money by...? By what? Support of the documentation? That is, you get paid for adapting, modifying, and or re-writing the documentation? I don't think this works.
{speculation} I assume that one would be able to charge for distribution of free documentation. I checked the license, though, and nothing is said about this (that I could find). Stallman being Stallman:), though, I suspect that this will be added. (I suspect that's why he says, "Don't use this license yet."){/speculation} This means, among other things, that one could have free documentation available online, and distribute if for a profit in dead-trees form. (Witness compilations of the LDP *HOWTOS.) There will be people who pay extra for this, and there will most likely always will be. O'Reilly published "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" along with other writings by Eric Raymond in print form. I gotta say, although I like to be able to get the documentation gratis, there is a hell of a lot to be said for a book that you can take with you and won't run out of battery power.
However, I don't know how this will fare up against other free-documentation licenses, such as the OPL. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
That's all this is. They've done it before. Can anybody recall how many times MS has announced a product, killed off the competitors, and then never bothered to release the product?
They may actually be serious; I don't know. This is speculation, like the rest of you are doing. But a hard drive in a game machine? Now that's an absolutely great idea. The great thing about my Nintendo Classic (and other's that I've played since, like the Playstation or N64) was that it never crashed. Mix hard drives and Windows in a "console", and you'll see that go bye-bye. (In all fairness, there were occasional bugs, but we called the "easter eggs".;) )
In all seriousness, this seems like a major troll from the big boys themselves. Is it April 1st yet? When I first heard the rumors, I dismissed them as just that: rumors. Now it appears that they're taking to spreading the rumors more widely.
Time will tell, but I think they're playing us for the fool.
Okay, why was this one post singled out? You think I'm lying.
Well, I've got news for you moderators. You don't know me. If you must know, here's the scoop.
Her mother is Columbian, her father is not, and she was born here in U.S. She speaks a little French because she took classes in high school. She's been vegetarian for about 9 years now. And that's pretty much it.
Next time, think before you moderate. You didn't waste any of your precious points on the A.C., but you punish me because I'm not afraid to put my user id on what I write. And that somehow makes it wrong or off-topic moreso than the Anonymous Coward.
I know what you're probably thinking. So go ahead and do it. At this point, I don't think too highly of your favorite site anymore.
I invented nothing and didn't claim anything that wasn't true.
And I'm not trying to "marginalise" anybody. I know someone who feels the same way I do about the PC-paranoid gender pedantry in today's language. In fact, I'm engaged to her.
Otherwise, she's either gonna have to give up pussy when she marries you, or screw around on you.
Who says she has to do either? (Besides you, genius.) Really, you claim to be so inclusive, yet take such a narrow view of things.
Was? I'm still here, aren't I, blueballs?
There's that language pedantry again, alway splitting hairs. If you're so dense not to realize a common construct when you see one...
Okay. Let me explain it to you. I "was" referring to the flamage you had spewed up to that point. Although you raise a valid point; perhaps I should've used present tense. You just don't seem to stop.
I'm flaming you for wanting to keep women marginalised by your language...
See above. All I'm doing is using the proper constructs of a language of which you claim to be an expert.
Mankind? Okay, let's not use that; let's try huMANity. Oops! PerSON. Uh-oh! WoMAN. FeMALE. Let's try 'peoplekind'. Or better yet, 'peoplity'. Yes, that'll work.
and for being arrogant enough not to admit you fucked up. And because I can.
If you can admit you fucked up, I've not seen evidence of it to this point.
There's nothing miserable about my existence.
The point was that if that was the funniest thing you've heard all day, then you don't get out much.
Only today, someone told me about a dumbass loser who invented a fiancee for himself,
I did nothing of the sort.
and claimed that she was bisexual
"Was". See your above rant.
without stopping to think how ridiculous that made him look.
I don't particularly care if I look ridiculous to you. And for someone that claims to be inclusive, you seem to be suspiciously close to making a statement to the effect that somebody who is involved with a person who happens to be bisexual is ridiculous. Or that the bisexual person is ridiculous.
I laughed until the tears ran down my cheeks.
Well, I'm certainly glad that I could bring some cheer to your existance. HAND.
And to answer your question, yes, it's been fun. But I'm afraid that I won't be feeding your trolling after this post. But feel free to reply, because I know you want to. You're getting pretty predictable now, and I look forward to having a good laugh at your expense. So feel free; post away. If you don't try to have the last word, you'll at least try to draw this out. But I'm not going to brighten your day anymore.
What does it matter what I am? You're the one who was flaming me as being a militant prejudicial type.
That's the fucking funniest thing I've heard all day.
This confirms my theory. Namely, that you are a sad, losing, pathetic little individual (Oops -- did I say individual? It's obvious you are a part of the hive-mind that is the essence of Trolls.) with a miserable existence.
Okay. Now you're just being irrational. But then again, the common troller/flamer usually is. And it doesn't surprise me in the least that you're afraid to take responsibility for your comments by using your name/user id.
If you must know, my fiancee is a half-Columbian French-speaking bisexual vegetarian, and I judge each person on their individual merits, which rates you pretty low in my book.
What do you think you're doing? I was merely stating the obvious.
You people are pathetic. Any time anybody disagrees with you or asks you to think, you throw a shrieking fit.
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? I disagreed with her^H^H^Hthat person and asked her^H^H^Hthem to think, and you jump in here whining. How original.
Some things just aren't funny, and talking about sexually abusing children is one of them.
Okay. Where the fuck did that come from? I made no mention of the sort.
I suppose I should include something inflammatory here, or else you won't bother to respond. So here it is: Fuck off and die, and take your feminaziism with you.
(To set the record straight: Feminism is a Good Thing, but feminazis can kiss my ass.)
Okay. Now I'm really wondering. Why was this marked as Flamebait?
Granted, my tone was a bit emotional. But, if anything, that one was more Informative than the original post. Simply a wake-up call.
Please tell me what was invalid about any point I made. I'm really dying to know.
As for this meta-moderation thing I keep hearing about -- point me to it, so I can score the people who moderated up the other guy's post as (-1, Clueless).
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What is the best way to do this? You need to ensure that the source code to your Operating System (tm) is in the hands of a neutral third party: Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending). We've been doing this for years. We ensure that nobody outside of our Company (tm) knows about any bugs that may or may not be in our Closed Source Code (tm). And because every Operating System (tm), as long as it is designed by humans, will have security holes, we ensure that each Service Pack (tm) will not only plug the old security holes, but also will introduce new ones that no one yet knows about. This, friends, truly is Quality (tm); there will always be security flaws, but don't you sleep better at night knowing that for the time being, the only party who knows about them is a name you can trust? And that so-called Operating System (tm) (we are investigating a trademark infringemnt lawsuit over the unauthorized use of a registered Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) trademark) designed by one Mr. Linux Torvalds has new security holes discovered at least once a week! You don't hear about Windows NT (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) security holes for months sometimes!
In closing, permit me to thank you for your continued patronage of Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending), or your imminent switch to a Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending)-based Operating System (tm).
Sincerely,
Mr. L. Mer Fudd, Microsoft (C)(R)(tm)(sm)(patent pending) Assistant Vice-Presidential Director of Marketing-Type Activities
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That's about the best you can do. You occasionally *will* miss out on good stuff that hasn't gotten moderated up yet, and obvious parody that's really funny that got moderated down as a troll or flamebait, but the SNR is oh-so-much-better.
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The scripts do a little black magic ;) with rpmoffset (never heard of it and no man pages), cpio, dd, and, of course, tar and gzip.
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So I used YaST1. And I gotta say, the install was really nice. (Really got into Linux last August and started with Slackware.) YaST is such a slick little tool -- just about everything went as smooth as silk.
BTW, how is SuSE pronounced? Is it soo'-suh (as in John Philip $_)? soo'-zee? soos'? Haven't quite figured it out yet...
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Or do they include it in the non-free tree? I just visited their ftp site and could not find it.
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Faithfulness doesn't necessarily mean sexual monogamy. Since we both like women, we plan to do a little swinging, menage-a-trois, etc. And to answer that question that I know is burning in your mind, I'm not opposed to a menage-a-trois with a male, either.
Besides, even if not for the above, she still wouldn't necessarily be "screwing around on me" -- I've already told her that I don't consider her going after it with another woman to be cheating, even if I'm not there. Yes, I'm secure enough with myself that it doesn't bother me. No, I'm not secure enough that it wouldn't bother me if she went and screwed another man.
Yes, we have limits. (No vaginal intercourse between parties other than the two of us during a menage-a-trois, for example.) But that doesn't mean that we're also not able to give each other some freedom.
Another thing you failed to consider was polyamory. Since the ultimate reason why it hurts so much when someone is cheated on is not the sex but the lies and the breaking of trust, a polyandrist "screwing around" on their partner, while technically accurate, is a misnomer, insofar as the word is emotionally loaded.
As for drawing inaccurate conclusions based on extremely narrow world views, I feel compelled to direct your insult right back at you.
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BTW, this (or some variation thereof) works at a lot of "free registration required" sites. cipherpunks, cypherpunks, cipherp, cypherp... Get creative. :)
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Consider this: Many companies (I don't think I need to name Red Hat here) pay people to write code that's to be released under the GPL. It doesn't seem too unreasonable to me to assume that they would pay people to write the free documentation (under the FDL) the same way that they pay people to write free software. It's rather complementary, IMO.
Something else: What about documentation that's been languishing for several revisions of the software? If this license becomes widely used (which I suspect it will, eventually, because of the reputation of RMS), then it would be no problem to just hire somebody to modify the documentation, much the same way as, say, ESR became the maintainer of popclient. (In fact, you wouldn't need any permission; ESR sought this from popclient's previous maintainer out of tact.) This could also simplify matters for the LDP if they decide to standardize on this license (much as they standardize on the file formats they accept).
{speculation} I assume that one would be able to charge for distribution of free documentation. I checked the license, though, and nothing is said about this (that I could find). Stallman being StallmanHowever, I don't know how this will fare up against other free-documentation licenses, such as the OPL. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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They may actually be serious; I don't know. This is speculation, like the rest of you are doing. But a hard drive in a game machine? Now that's an absolutely great idea. The great thing about my Nintendo Classic (and other's that I've played since, like the Playstation or N64) was that it never crashed. Mix hard drives and Windows in a "console", and you'll see that go bye-bye. (In all fairness, there were occasional bugs, but we called the "easter eggs". ;) )
In all seriousness, this seems like a major troll from the big boys themselves. Is it April 1st yet? When I first heard the rumors, I dismissed them as just that: rumors. Now it appears that they're taking to spreading the rumors more widely.
Time will tell, but I think they're playing us for the fool.
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We ought to get RMS, the FSF, the EFF, and any other TLAs we can think of to get out there and sue his ass. :)
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Well, I've got news for you moderators. You don't know me. If you must know, here's the scoop.
Her mother is Columbian, her father is not, and she was born here in U.S. She speaks a little French because she took classes in high school. She's been vegetarian for about 9 years now. And that's pretty much it.
Next time, think before you moderate. You didn't waste any of your precious points on the A.C., but you punish me because I'm not afraid to put my user id on what I write. And that somehow makes it wrong or off-topic moreso than the Anonymous Coward.
I know what you're probably thinking. So go ahead and do it. At this point, I don't think too highly of your favorite site anymore.
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And I'm not trying to "marginalise" anybody. I know someone who feels the same way I do about the PC-paranoid gender pedantry in today's language. In fact, I'm engaged to her.
Who says she has to do either? (Besides you, genius.) Really, you claim to be so inclusive, yet take such a narrow view of things. There's that language pedantry again, alway splitting hairs. If you're so dense not to realize a common construct when you see one...Okay. Let me explain it to you. I "was" referring to the flamage you had spewed up to that point. Although you raise a valid point; perhaps I should've used present tense. You just don't seem to stop.
See above. All I'm doing is using the proper constructs of a language of which you claim to be an expert.Mankind? Okay, let's not use that; let's try huMANity. Oops! PerSON. Uh-oh! WoMAN. FeMALE. Let's try 'peoplekind'. Or better yet, 'peoplity'. Yes, that'll work.
If you can admit you fucked up, I've not seen evidence of it to this point. The point was that if that was the funniest thing you've heard all day, then you don't get out much. I did nothing of the sort. "Was". See your above rant. I don't particularly care if I look ridiculous to you. And for someone that claims to be inclusive, you seem to be suspiciously close to making a statement to the effect that somebody who is involved with a person who happens to be bisexual is ridiculous. Or that the bisexual person is ridiculous. Well, I'm certainly glad that I could bring some cheer to your existance. HAND.And to answer your question, yes, it's been fun. But I'm afraid that I won't be feeding your trolling after this post. But feel free to reply, because I know you want to. You're getting pretty predictable now, and I look forward to having a good laugh at your expense. So feel free; post away. If you don't try to have the last word, you'll at least try to draw this out. But I'm not going to brighten your day anymore.
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If you must know, my fiancee is a half-Columbian French-speaking bisexual vegetarian, and I judge each person on their individual merits, which rates you pretty low in my book.
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It seems you're intent on having the last word. So go ahead. Post again. I know you will. Your kind always do.
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I suppose I should include something inflammatory here, or else you won't bother to respond. So here it is: Fuck off and die, and take your feminaziism with you.
(To set the record straight: Feminism is a Good Thing, but feminazis can kiss my ass.)
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Granted, my tone was a bit emotional. But, if anything, that one was more Informative than the original post. Simply a wake-up call.
Please tell me what was invalid about any point I made. I'm really dying to know.
As for this meta-moderation thing I keep hearing about -- point me to it, so I can score the people who moderated up the other guy's post as (-1, Clueless).
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