I always start the latest Ubuntu release running Unity for a few months and then I gravitate back to the latest KDE SC. Don't get me wrong, I like Unity and KDE, but something deep inside my soul keeps drawing me to KDE.
When everything takes "just a couple of minutes" then you eventually are left with no time in the day for all the rest of the things that take "just a couple of minutes". Your fundamental problem is that you don't understand the concept of priorities.
Tags would still be readable outside KDE. Nepomuk is an independent system developed and funded officially by the EU. It cost over 17 million euros to make.
Gnome's Zeitgeist uses Nepomuk Ontologies, as does Ubuntu's Unity.
Having the metadata in the file would have the benefit of the data following the file, but you couldn't realistically store all ontology based metadata in the file itself. It would lead to a fair amount of file bloat and also would slow down search hugely as all metadata is distributed across your storage and filesystem.
It uses plain Nepomuk for everthing with one small exception: PIM data from the Kontact suite which uses Akonadi (KMail, KOrganiser, KAddressbook, KPilot, etc). How can I say that it's only a small exception when PIM is a pretty big umbrella of important data? Well, Akonadi passes all it's metadata and information along to Nepomuk for indexing and actually uses Nepomuk for search in PIM. There may be a few corner case exceptions to single items of metadata in PIM that are not reflected in the relevant Nepomuk ontologies, so are therefore not pushed to Nepomuk for indexing. These however are few, far between and mostly non-important.
Heh, so in answer to your question (I get sidetracked easily), it is a simple matter of backing up Nepomuk to keep all your semantic information. You'll find that in the settings section for search in KDE there is a button there to automatically or manually perform Nepomuk backups.
They have. If you wanted to do something like this and make it semantic and awesome you could create a new Nepomuk Ontology for your document and have some associated specific metadata - then you can semantically link it with people, bank accounts, etc, give it tags and more. Search and relationships are enumerated with nepomuk-indexer. On top of that you can either use a file manager like Dolphin and just use it for search, or build a little interface over the top to perform custom queries on the data.
Nope. Wrong. KDE devs said from the very beginning that they had put in all the basic framework stuff and that the release of the 4.0 series was to encourage app developers to port to the new platform. It was never meant for end users, nor was it ever stated that it was. To the contrary.
You've got to be kidding. I just installed Windows 7 on my newly built gaming machine at home. It took me several hours getting all the drivers to work. First off was using another computer to download drivers for the NIC and then discovering that it didn't want to read my USB drive because it didn't have the drivers for the controller. I didn't get a CDROM drive with the computer because they are obsolete to me - so was unable to continue. Utter crap.
Only after I installed Ubuntu on the drive (which took all of 15 minutes and had every device up and running by default - including 3D drivers) was I able to copy the required drivers onto the NTFS partition of the Win7 install and continue installation. Windows hasn't been up to a Linux distro's driver standards since the early 2000's.
Also, I remember how many people whinged about all the wasted pixel space when KDE =4.6 was around. Now you look at all their desktop environments and I cannot help but choke on the irony of the situation.
Yeah, I always spend about 4 months trying the newest release of Unity or Gnome and always gravitate back to KDE. In the general scope of heavy desktops, it is the best by far in my opinion. Nothing comes close to Nepomuk+Akonadi in my opinion - everyone (including Microsoft) has tried semantic desktops - and only KDE has been able to pull it off. I think it is the bomb.
Also, what is with the hate of Oxygen? I *love* it. I've tried a million different themes on KDE but I can't get past the professional fit and finish of Oxygen.
And a DDD+CQRS Event Sourcing programmer will rage over a purely procedural paradigm. Doesn't make him programming illiterate if it frustrates him using that paradigm. All it means is that he has his reasons. Enquire about them or move on. Sweeping statements are fallacy.
Yes and no. The user will disappear from visible sight, but this is because Google has entirely removed that person's existence from the fabric of the universe with a flux capacitor.
The problem then becomes this: Everyone will be racing to block all their friends first so that they can survive. Eventually, the human race will be distilled down to a few individuals that remain after the Great Google+ Block. These users will be then forced outside their circles (since they no longer exist) and will form a new society based on mistrust and knee-jerk reactions. Humanity will be saved.
If you knew anything 'technically' about Wayland you would actually be able to verbalize these shortcomings you refer to - but you can't. Don't pretend to me that you can't summarize it. Wayland does not splinter the community. Did you know that Wayland runs X in a container on demand for use by legacy applications - so nothing is left behind? Wayland is an evolutionary step above X and it is a good one.
No, it's the same old drivel that people have been saying since before Stone was likely even born: "X11 is hard", "we're going to build something much simpler that solves all the problems".
No, it's not. It highlights a lot of misconceptions people have of X11 and Wayland. Sure, he's gunning for Wayland - but he has good reason. You seem stuck in the past, mate. X11 has already been housecleaned. They dropped over 300,000 lines of code. Unfortunately, now that they can't delete any more they're kind of stuck. Wayland is X12 for all intents and purposes. Wayland isn't the answer - because....?
You 'threaten' to give up on FOSS with you and your buddies because you feel like Wayland is rocking your boat. I'm sorry, but this is evolution - maybe it is time you left for 'easier' pastures.
Congratulations on building a strawman. If you need tools that are exclusively available on an alternative platform then use that platform - that's common sense.
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I always start the latest Ubuntu release running Unity for a few months and then I gravitate back to the latest KDE SC. Don't get me wrong, I like Unity and KDE, but something deep inside my soul keeps drawing me to KDE.
hahaha, haven't been to bash.org in ages. Thanks for the flashback.
You obviously haven't read the transcript. Enlighten yourself.
When everything takes "just a couple of minutes" then you eventually are left with no time in the day for all the rest of the things that take "just a couple of minutes". Your fundamental problem is that you don't understand the concept of priorities.
Tags would still be readable outside KDE. Nepomuk is an independent system developed and funded officially by the EU. It cost over 17 million euros to make.
Gnome's Zeitgeist uses Nepomuk Ontologies, as does Ubuntu's Unity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework)
Having the metadata in the file would have the benefit of the data following the file, but you couldn't realistically store all ontology based metadata in the file itself. It would lead to a fair amount of file bloat and also would slow down search hugely as all metadata is distributed across your storage and filesystem.
As a note, I think the backup button for Nepomuk is only in the newer versions of KDE (4.8+).
It uses plain Nepomuk for everthing with one small exception: PIM data from the Kontact suite which uses Akonadi (KMail, KOrganiser, KAddressbook, KPilot, etc). How can I say that it's only a small exception when PIM is a pretty big umbrella of important data? Well, Akonadi passes all it's metadata and information along to Nepomuk for indexing and actually uses Nepomuk for search in PIM. There may be a few corner case exceptions to single items of metadata in PIM that are not reflected in the relevant Nepomuk ontologies, so are therefore not pushed to Nepomuk for indexing. These however are few, far between and mostly non-important.
For a better idea of their roles, and the reason to have both Nepomuk and Akonadi then have a look at this link. It's very useful info: http://cmollekopf.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/kontact-nepomuk-integration-why-data-from-akonadi-is-indexed-in-nepomuk/
Heh, so in answer to your question (I get sidetracked easily), it is a simple matter of backing up Nepomuk to keep all your semantic information. You'll find that in the settings section for search in KDE there is a button there to automatically or manually perform Nepomuk backups.
They have. If you wanted to do something like this and make it semantic and awesome you could create a new Nepomuk Ontology for your document and have some associated specific metadata - then you can semantically link it with people, bank accounts, etc, give it tags and more. Search and relationships are enumerated with nepomuk-indexer. On top of that you can either use a file manager like Dolphin and just use it for search, or build a little interface over the top to perform custom queries on the data.
PCs get viruses.
Everything gets viruses. This isn't limited to 'PCs'.
Mirrors should be backups ideally. See Byzantine Fault Tolerance. A really good mirroring system would be properly BFT.
Mirrors should be backups. See Byzantine Fault Tolerance. A really good mirroring system would be properly BFT.
Historically, I've loved FreeBSD for servers - but I don't consider it as a desktop alternative. For one, package management is a pain with ports.
Nope. Wrong. KDE devs said from the very beginning that they had put in all the basic framework stuff and that the release of the 4.0 series was to encourage app developers to port to the new platform. It was never meant for end users, nor was it ever stated that it was. To the contrary.
You've got to be kidding. I just installed Windows 7 on my newly built gaming machine at home. It took me several hours getting all the drivers to work. First off was using another computer to download drivers for the NIC and then discovering that it didn't want to read my USB drive because it didn't have the drivers for the controller. I didn't get a CDROM drive with the computer because they are obsolete to me - so was unable to continue. Utter crap.
Only after I installed Ubuntu on the drive (which took all of 15 minutes and had every device up and running by default - including 3D drivers) was I able to copy the required drivers onto the NTFS partition of the Win7 install and continue installation. Windows hasn't been up to a Linux distro's driver standards since the early 2000's.
Also, I remember how many people whinged about all the wasted pixel space when KDE =4.6 was around. Now you look at all their desktop environments and I cannot help but choke on the irony of the situation.
Yeah, I always spend about 4 months trying the newest release of Unity or Gnome and always gravitate back to KDE. In the general scope of heavy desktops, it is the best by far in my opinion. Nothing comes close to Nepomuk+Akonadi in my opinion - everyone (including Microsoft) has tried semantic desktops - and only KDE has been able to pull it off. I think it is the bomb.
Also, what is with the hate of Oxygen? I *love* it. I've tried a million different themes on KDE but I can't get past the professional fit and finish of Oxygen.
And a DDD+CQRS Event Sourcing programmer will rage over a purely procedural paradigm. Doesn't make him programming illiterate if it frustrates him using that paradigm. All it means is that he has his reasons. Enquire about them or move on. Sweeping statements are fallacy.
Except that there is nothing worth stealing from china....
(I am referring to electronic goods/documents, not rare-earth materials which cannot be downloaded over the internet)
I'm sorry, we don't serve whales here....
Yes and no. The user will disappear from visible sight, but this is because Google has entirely removed that person's existence from the fabric of the universe with a flux capacitor.
The problem then becomes this: Everyone will be racing to block all their friends first so that they can survive. Eventually, the human race will be distilled down to a few individuals that remain after the Great Google+ Block. These users will be then forced outside their circles (since they no longer exist) and will form a new society based on mistrust and knee-jerk reactions. Humanity will be saved.
If you knew anything 'technically' about Wayland you would actually be able to verbalize these shortcomings you refer to - but you can't. Don't pretend to me that you can't summarize it. Wayland does not splinter the community. Did you know that Wayland runs X in a container on demand for use by legacy applications - so nothing is left behind? Wayland is an evolutionary step above X and it is a good one.
No, it's the same old drivel that people have been saying since before Stone was likely even born: "X11 is hard", "we're going to build something much simpler that solves all the problems".
No, it's not. It highlights a lot of misconceptions people have of X11 and Wayland. Sure, he's gunning for Wayland - but he has good reason. You seem stuck in the past, mate. X11 has already been housecleaned. They dropped over 300,000 lines of code. Unfortunately, now that they can't delete any more they're kind of stuck. Wayland is X12 for all intents and purposes. Wayland isn't the answer - because....?
You 'threaten' to give up on FOSS with you and your buddies because you feel like Wayland is rocking your boat. I'm sorry, but this is evolution - maybe it is time you left for 'easier' pastures.
...ignore much of the X11 infrastructure, in part out of ignorance...
You didn't watch that video. It's good, trust me.
Congratulations on building a strawman. If you need tools that are exclusively available on an alternative platform then use that platform - that's common sense.