Yep. But US intervened after Pearl Harbour. We(well, my grand-father) french-canadians kicked ass the moment britain was involved;)
I think the real issue is realpolitik. Politics in the short term suck.
I'm skeptic about the mass grave pictures. Even with pictures on CNN, the world population just changed channels when they saw Chechenya, rwanda, etc pictures. US interests must now be at play, that's the foreign policy doctrine since Clinton.
Believe it or not, Muslims didn't like Iraq. Iraq was even a secular nation and Saddam added "Allah is great" on his flag after the first war to appeal to pan-islamic diaspora.
Believe me, muslims love america. What they don't like is military intervention without their consent. In other word they like the soft-power tactics not the hard-power ones. Heck, saddam even said that he watched baywatch.
UN was not the first international organisation. The first one was created after WWI but was too much idealistic so US+Britain+France+Russia+Germany withdrew.
I'm doing a degree in applied politics and the more I learn, the more cynic I become. At least the parties are great.
But no leader will go to war for human rights. Even Clinton+Bush said that the US will not involve the military if there's no american interests. That's why the world sat in front of the genocide in Rwanda, Timor, etc. If you look in the UN charter, i think the fifth principle forbid the UN to intervene in internal affairs. And you can't be more liberal than the UN.
The US wanted to invade Iraq to change the power balance in the Middle East to counter-balance china and democratic societies are more favorable to US interests and have the nice side-effect to promote liberty. Don't confuse the side-effect with the primary objective. Well that's my opinion.
And sure, current enemies will hate the current administration. I'm sure if even Ralph Nader wins, he'll be hated by rogues states.
Argh, back to my term paper. Don't mind my spelling, english isn't my native language.
4 out of 5 of America's enemy leaders support Kerry for President. Why do you suppose that is? Because you don't piss off your allies by bitching the current US administration, they might just levy softwood or beef for exemple. Real basic diplomacy. Would you tell your boss that he has bad breath? Not if you want to keep your job. Same thing here.
Hey we're a bilingual country: De la part de tous les canadiens, j'aimerais offrir nos excuses aux Etats-Unis d'Amerique. Nous n'avons pas ete en tres bon terme recemment. Pour cela, je suis vraiment desole.
Nous nous excusons d'avoir traite Georges Bush de moron. Il est un moron, mais on aurait pas du vous le faire remarquer. En guise de consolation, le fait qu'il est un moron n'influence pas notre opinion des americains. Apres tout, ce n'est pas comme si vous l'avez elu.
Je m'excuse a propos du bois d'oeuvre. Juste parce que nous avons plus d'arbres, ca ne veut pas dire que nous avons le droit de vous vendre du bois meilleur et moins cher.
Nous nous excusons de vous avoir battu au hockey aux olympiques. Je suppose que nous equipe etait vraiment vraiment vraiment meilleure.
Nous nous excusons d'avoir brule la maison blanche, je vois que vous l'avez reconstruit, c'est tres joli.
Je m'excuse pour votre biere. Je sais que ce n'est pas notre faute, mais je comprends votre douleur.
Nous nous excusons de ne pas avoir participe a la guerre en Irak. Je comprends que quand vous voulez vous battre contre un dictateur fou, vous voulez avoir vos amis a vos cotes. Je suis aussi conscient qu'il s'est ecoule plus de deux ans avant d'avoir participe dans la guerre contre Hitler, mais c'etait different. Il avait vraiment des armes.
De la part de tous les canadiens, nous nous excusons que nos excuses sont passives-aggressives et sont veritablement une critique a peine subtile. J'espere que vous n'etes pas faches. Nous avons vu ce que vous faites aux pays qui vous fachent.
The first educated persons in america came from Europe. I only think that south-east asia are living their industrial revolution. Europe isn't dead, we'll also find a way out. It won't be long before Indians form unions, want pay raises, etc.
To make a bad analogy worse: If you're selling water in the desert and start to rain, you change job and sell umbrellas.
Yep, my english(not my native language, I think you saw that) spelling sucks but it's getting always better. How's your french and spanish coming along?
Put that in perspective. China is a developping country. If we can forgive the native american genocide why can't we forgive China; who proportionally kill less people than the US each year? I'm not saying that one is better than another, I'm saying that the world isn't black or white. And drop that EVIL rhetoric, you read slashdot, you're smarter than that.
I hear US version will automatically phone police when you text "Terrorist", "Civil desobiediance", "recount", "death penality", "fair trial for poor black people in the south".
Yeah, let them play a violent game BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T LET CHILDREN SEE BOOBS.(because I would have to explain to them the "things of life" and it's really embarassing...)War is cool, sex is bad.
Yep, it's the same drugs. It's just that our governement regulates the price. We're such a bunch of communists. Btw, we got viagra after you americans, Canada Health wanted to make more tests. I guess they wanted to be sure it worked with our massive organs.
That's the official version. The government needs the US protectorate or moneys. The civilians on the other end...
What's funny about the whole Iraq and Kuwait war is that Iraq asked the US if they would mind if Iraq attacked Kuwait. The US said that they didn't mind.(in a foreign policy issue last year before the second war)
I still don't get why the british created Kuwait after leaving Iraq. That's just asking for trouble.
I work for a pager provider(student job) that provide 1800 number. It doesn't matter how long the message runs, it's the number of time that matters. Just call and hang up when the recording begins. On several package it runs up to 0.25$ per call.
Yeah, but they are less likely to get laid than other geeks.... ;)
freud said it best:
It's all comes down to eros and tanatos.(boobs and guns)
I think the real issue is realpolitik. Politics in the short term suck.
I'm skeptic about the mass grave pictures. Even with pictures on CNN, the world population just changed channels when they saw Chechenya, rwanda, etc pictures. US interests must now be at play, that's the foreign policy doctrine since Clinton.
Believe it or not, Muslims didn't like Iraq. Iraq was even a secular nation and Saddam added "Allah is great" on his flag after the first war to appeal to pan-islamic diaspora.
Believe me, muslims love america. What they don't like is military intervention without their consent. In other word they like the soft-power tactics not the hard-power ones. Heck, saddam even said that he watched baywatch.
UN was not the first international organisation. The first one was created after WWI but was too much idealistic so US+Britain+France+Russia+Germany withdrew.
I'm doing a degree in applied politics and the more I learn, the more cynic I become. At least the parties are great.
But no leader will go to war for human rights. Even Clinton+Bush said that the US will not involve the military if there's no american interests. That's why the world sat in front of the genocide in Rwanda, Timor, etc. If you look in the UN charter, i think the fifth principle forbid the UN to intervene in internal affairs. And you can't be more liberal than the UN.
The US wanted to invade Iraq to change the power balance in the Middle East to counter-balance china and democratic societies are more favorable to US interests and have the nice side-effect to promote liberty. Don't confuse the side-effect with the primary objective. Well that's my opinion.
And sure, current enemies will hate the current administration. I'm sure if even Ralph Nader wins, he'll be hated by rogues states.
Argh, back to my term paper. Don't mind my spelling, english isn't my native language.
4 out of 5 of America's enemy leaders support Kerry for President. Why do you suppose that is?
Because you don't piss off your allies by bitching the current US administration, they might just levy softwood or beef for exemple. Real basic diplomacy. Would you tell your boss that he has bad breath? Not if you want to keep your job. Same thing here.
You should take an anger management class
Hey we're a bilingual country:
De la part de tous les canadiens, j'aimerais offrir nos excuses aux Etats-Unis d'Amerique. Nous n'avons pas ete en tres bon terme recemment. Pour cela, je suis vraiment desole.
Nous nous excusons d'avoir traite Georges Bush de moron. Il est un moron, mais on aurait pas du vous le faire remarquer. En guise de consolation, le fait qu'il est un moron n'influence pas notre opinion des americains. Apres tout, ce n'est pas comme si vous l'avez elu.
Je m'excuse a propos du bois d'oeuvre. Juste parce que nous avons plus d'arbres, ca ne veut pas dire que nous avons le droit de vous vendre du bois meilleur et moins cher.
Nous nous excusons de vous avoir battu au hockey aux olympiques. Je suppose que nous equipe etait vraiment vraiment vraiment meilleure.
Nous nous excusons d'avoir brule la maison blanche, je vois que vous l'avez reconstruit, c'est tres joli.
Je m'excuse pour votre biere. Je sais que ce n'est pas notre faute, mais je comprends votre douleur.
Nous nous excusons de ne pas avoir participe a la guerre en Irak. Je comprends que quand vous voulez vous battre contre un dictateur fou, vous voulez avoir vos amis a vos cotes. Je suis aussi conscient qu'il s'est ecoule plus de deux ans avant d'avoir participe dans la guerre contre Hitler, mais c'etait different. Il avait vraiment des armes.
De la part de tous les canadiens, nous nous excusons que nos excuses sont passives-aggressives et sont veritablement une critique a peine subtile. J'espere que vous n'etes pas faches. Nous avons vu ce que vous faites aux pays qui vous fachent.
Merci.
that sucks. Don't associate us with Frenchs. We kicked ass in WWII and way before americans did so.
To make a bad analogy worse: If you're selling water in the desert and start to rain, you change job and sell umbrellas.
Try airwalks, they are really durable and I end up changing them when they start to smell.
yep, it's mine. Stop looking.
We said the same thing about Japan, Taiwan and China.
I take offense. Take that back.
Yep, my english(not my native language, I think you saw that) spelling sucks but it's getting always better. How's your french and spanish coming along?
And I didn't even use profanity.
Isn't technology great?
What about those native americans? Or the intolerance we hear on hispanic americans? See I can generalize too.
TONS of stuff on the news is spinned.
Yeah, let them play a violent game BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T LET CHILDREN SEE BOOBS.(because I would have to explain to them the "things of life" and it's really embarassing...)War is cool, sex is bad.
Yep, it's the same drugs. It's just that our governement regulates the price. We're such a bunch of communists. Btw, we got viagra after you americans, Canada Health wanted to make more tests. I guess they wanted to be sure it worked with our massive organs.
What's funny about the whole Iraq and Kuwait war is that Iraq asked the US if they would mind if Iraq attacked Kuwait. The US said that they didn't mind.(in a foreign policy issue last year before the second war)
I still don't get why the british created Kuwait after leaving Iraq. That's just asking for trouble.
And that whole thing with Israel doesn't look too good in middle east.
You're confusing North Korea and South Korea.
I work for a pager provider(student job) that provide 1800 number. It doesn't matter how long the message runs, it's the number of time that matters. Just call and hang up when the recording begins. On several package it runs up to 0.25$ per call.
politicians never lie. They just adapt to new realities and never tell the whole truth, just the good parts.