This post should not be modded as "Troll", obviously apple fanbois have been moderating negatively because they feel their religion threatened by someone stating something they don't agree with.
Mod this up folks, I could not have said this better - and it seems there is a whole load of fanbois dumb enough to actually not realize all this at all, babbling about how tree-ish apple is coz it recycles the (whole) devices for you so you don't have to separately let them recycle your battery - I would bet they might even argue that having to recycle two batteries (or even more) per one device means that the device is much worse for environment as after all, their glued in battery devices only need one battery recycled per device.
Yet iphones and ipods are known to end up on landfills too - if you disagree, well, I've seen it happen (and prevented it twice too). The fact that people (not all, thank god) are too lazy to recycle batteries means they are just as lazy with recycling phones, laptops, etc. too. The fact that you can recycle batteries helps somewhat though...
agreed - I could live with short (something like 20-50 years), non-transferable copyright. As for what it is today, well, I generally only follow laws that I can agree with or that I'm too afraid to break - copyright laws are neither.
Just wanted to add that it seems there was not such confusion here and "left" apparently just referred to left part of picture - or maybe there was confusion and I'm just under estimating volume of stupidity in universe again:p
US citizens often get confused on these things, they have two right wing parties, one of which they call "left" - a real left wing party would likely be impossible to fathom for many of them...:p
Yeah, like I'm going to believe that they just put the software on their discs without knowing how it would function - and even if they did, well, I would certainly not let them off the hook for being utterly irresponsible. Anyway, as I see it, the excuses are just that - PR BS / excuses.
I think it's a fair possibility - there is a load of FOSS things that were never to happen, such claims don't really work on me... Of course there might never be one, thus the word "possibility".
Indeed, OtherOS stuff proved again what we have known since, at least, the rootkit shame that Sony is not worthy of trust - it's a company that, like MS, is ready to use shady and criminal tactics with little/no respect for it's customers to do whatever they want (/think that would be good idea, even if really not).
Personally have been boycotting both, Sony and MS, for some time now - I do some cross-platform development, but to test my applications on Windows I actually just test with Linux+Wine (if it works on that then it should be fine with real Windows anyway).
Just out of interest, are they different in size too, or just in color? Before moving to euro, Finnish mark bills were different colored, but same size - when moving to euro the different sizes first seemed weird to me, but now that I'm used to that it's really convenient... I wonder haw blind people told the difference before (I guess there was a way, don't know how).
What a load of crap - please leave my ass... And you can take that as my reply representing my view, as neither Christian nor atheist (although used to be), of your BS.
So they are selling more than they can deliver? Maybe they should consider selling lower speed connections then, selling more than you can deliver and demanding they should be able to deliver less to compensate it for the same price, that would not work well in my country:)
And those actually wanting a product that is good for their needs, from company they can trust and respect, or at least not have anything against their actions, etc. will be evaluating their choices on such terms - sometimes leading regular people to decide to not support a company at all (ie. boycott them) not necessarily because of their fanboism for another company having anything to do with it.
But if you think that your "real world" has only people who want to buy Apple products, then "Hello fanboi" to you...
As for people who think a company is doing something so wrong that it should not be supported - well, obviously it should be boycotted by such people, unless they are hypocrites and bitch about something being wrong but support it anyway. Isn't this obvious?
With a little googling it seemed to me that at least OpenOffice Calc does support scripting, and via Python - I think the issue is that there is no way (at least nothing well known) to automatically convert the VB scripts from documents made with MS Office (not to save in MS format with working scripting from OO.org), at least as far as I know.
...The reason people use Office suites these days is more from tradition than need.
Long time Microsoft enemy here, and I have to strongly disagree. There are few packages that do what Exchange does... which boils down to, apparently, integrating calendar and mail. You're thinking too individually... an individual can find software that they like better that works better than Office, but when you add 2K - 10K collaborating users to the mix, there's nothing competing with it (there are a few alternatives, Zimbra is one... but Exchange doesn't seem to be going anywhere even with the few actually free alternatives, and the alleged popularity of outsourcing to Google apps). Exchange admins can fuck off all they want and never worry about losing their job, and if they do, never worry about finding work... there's always an Exchange server somewhere in crisis.
The reason people use Office is because that's what their company uses because there are few alternatives, and it came with their home computer. I have to give credit where credit is due... Exchange works pretty well, even with its lockout pitfalls and instability after not having any maintenance for a few months while corporate tries to find the rare individual that is competent at administrating the thing and isn't a complete jerk.
But the claim made earlier on the thread was that if MS died then IT field would, because of no good alternatives to them (not word-to-word but how I read it) - it's ridiculous to claim (and no, you did not claim that on this post) that if MS suddenly died that these products wouldn't be more or less quickly (and I'd say more, but seeing how long it took to kill IE6 I'm not sure) replaced with other solutions.
If most people would indeed hate their android phones and would prefer to have an iPhone, wouldn't it already show in Android sales? Surely that would mean it's success has been a very unlikely bubble that should be bursting by now? Your claim is flawed, no matter how justified some of your criticism towards Android devices is.
I do with my Linux what you claim I could (but know otherwise) do with Windows, especially with my current hardware - and I run HTTP, MySQL, SSH, SMB (Samba) and ocassionally a VNC server at the same time on my main desktop/media center/server combo that, with Windows could only run one of these on this hardware - and then there would be a choice of running with crap security or having the AW/FW software slow the thing to useless anyway.
The only thing I have missed at all is being able to play larger set of Windows games - but then there are so many great games that run with Wine or are native linux that I couldn't even try all of them anyway so while I consider myself a "low-end HC" gamer that's not a major issue for me - certainly not something I'd throw all benefits of Linux>W away for.
So just cut the crap - enjoy doing whatever you want but cut the crap with that "server only, enjoy compiling your kernel with CLI magic"... And all the other crap too, like "Apple can't do shit" (this coming from apple hater: apples walled garden doesn't mean that, no matter how bad it is). Just stop trolling and go enjoy your BSOD.
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This post should not be modded as "Troll", obviously apple fanbois have been moderating negatively because they feel their religion threatened by someone stating something they don't agree with.
How nice - and poor people would never soil themselves with apple.
Mod this up folks, I could not have said this better - and it seems there is a whole load of fanbois dumb enough to actually not realize all this at all, babbling about how tree-ish apple is coz it recycles the (whole) devices for you so you don't have to separately let them recycle your battery - I would bet they might even argue that having to recycle two batteries (or even more) per one device means that the device is much worse for environment as after all, their glued in battery devices only need one battery recycled per device.
I really wish I was joking...
Yet iphones and ipods are known to end up on landfills too - if you disagree, well, I've seen it happen (and prevented it twice too). The fact that people (not all, thank god) are too lazy to recycle batteries means they are just as lazy with recycling phones, laptops, etc. too. The fact that you can recycle batteries helps somewhat though...
You know, I would have had to throw away (recycle) way more phones than I have if they had not changeable battery.
It was funny though, but now you're just making yourself way more funnier =D Have a bagle, relax =)
agreed - I could live with short (something like 20-50 years), non-transferable copyright. As for what it is today, well, I generally only follow laws that I can agree with or that I'm too afraid to break - copyright laws are neither.
Just wanted to add that it seems there was not such confusion here and "left" apparently just referred to left part of picture - or maybe there was confusion and I'm just under estimating volume of stupidity in universe again :p
US citizens often get confused on these things, they have two right wing parties, one of which they call "left" - a real left wing party would likely be impossible to fathom for many of them... :p
Mod this up people, I would if I could, an excellent example of typical Sonyish behavior.
Yeah, like I'm going to believe that they just put the software on their discs without knowing how it would function - and even if they did, well, I would certainly not let them off the hook for being utterly irresponsible. Anyway, as I see it, the excuses are just that - PR BS / excuses.
I think it's a fair possibility - there is a load of FOSS things that were never to happen, such claims don't really work on me... Of course there might never be one, thus the word "possibility".
Indeed, OtherOS stuff proved again what we have known since, at least, the rootkit shame that Sony is not worthy of trust - it's a company that, like MS, is ready to use shady and criminal tactics with little/no respect for it's customers to do whatever they want (/think that would be good idea, even if really not).
Personally have been boycotting both, Sony and MS, for some time now - I do some cross-platform development, but to test my applications on Windows I actually just test with Linux+Wine (if it works on that then it should be fine with real Windows anyway).
Canadian notes are all the same size, which is more convenient for many things
Yeah, I guess both ways are convenient some ways :) Btw, interesting tidbit what you told of the "brailleish" stuff on bills, thanks :)
What about moral issues of having a baby in Somalia? Huh...
My thoughts exactly - that you are being labeled as troll makes it even sadder.
Just out of interest, are they different in size too, or just in color? Before moving to euro, Finnish mark bills were different colored, but same size - when moving to euro the different sizes first seemed weird to me, but now that I'm used to that it's really convenient... I wonder haw blind people told the difference before (I guess there was a way, don't know how).
What a load of crap - please leave my ass...
And you can take that as my reply representing my view, as neither Christian nor atheist (although used to be), of your BS.
So they are selling more than they can deliver? Maybe they should consider selling lower speed connections then, selling more than you can deliver and demanding they should be able to deliver less to compensate it for the same price, that would not work well in my country :)
*thumbs up*
Really liked your reply, you said it way better than I could :)
And those actually wanting a product that is good for their needs, from company they can trust and respect, or at least not have anything against their actions, etc. will be evaluating their choices on such terms - sometimes leading regular people to decide to not support a company at all (ie. boycott them) not necessarily because of their fanboism for another company having anything to do with it.
But if you think that your "real world" has only people who want to buy Apple products, then "Hello fanboi" to you...
As for people who think a company is doing something so wrong that it should not be supported - well, obviously it should be boycotted by such people, unless they are hypocrites and bitch about something being wrong but support it anyway. Isn't this obvious?
With a little googling it seemed to me that at least OpenOffice Calc does support scripting, and via Python - I think the issue is that there is no way (at least nothing well known) to automatically convert the VB scripts from documents made with MS Office (not to save in MS format with working scripting from OO.org), at least as far as I know.
Who needs office anymore?
...The reason people use Office suites these days is more from tradition than need.
Long time Microsoft enemy here, and I have to strongly disagree. There are few packages that do what Exchange does... which boils down to, apparently, integrating calendar and mail. You're thinking too individually... an individual can find software that they like better that works better than Office, but when you add 2K - 10K collaborating users to the mix, there's nothing competing with it (there are a few alternatives, Zimbra is one ... but Exchange doesn't seem to be going anywhere even with the few actually free alternatives, and the alleged popularity of outsourcing to Google apps). Exchange admins can fuck off all they want and never worry about losing their job, and if they do, never worry about finding work... there's always an Exchange server somewhere in crisis.
The reason people use Office is because that's what their company uses because there are few alternatives, and it came with their home computer. I have to give credit where credit is due... Exchange works pretty well, even with its lockout pitfalls and instability after not having any maintenance for a few months while corporate tries to find the rare individual that is competent at administrating the thing and isn't a complete jerk.
But the claim made earlier on the thread was that if MS died then IT field would, because of no good alternatives to them (not word-to-word but how I read it) - it's ridiculous to claim (and no, you did not claim that on this post) that if MS suddenly died that these products wouldn't be more or less quickly (and I'd say more, but seeing how long it took to kill IE6 I'm not sure) replaced with other solutions.
If most people would indeed hate their android phones and would prefer to have an iPhone, wouldn't it already show in Android sales? Surely that would mean it's success has been a very unlikely bubble that should be bursting by now? Your claim is flawed, no matter how justified some of your criticism towards Android devices is.
I do with my Linux what you claim I could (but know otherwise) do with Windows, especially with my current hardware - and I run HTTP, MySQL, SSH, SMB (Samba) and ocassionally a VNC server at the same time on my main desktop/media center/server combo that, with Windows could only run one of these on this hardware - and then there would be a choice of running with crap security or having the AW/FW software slow the thing to useless anyway.
The only thing I have missed at all is being able to play larger set of Windows games - but then there are so many great games that run with Wine or are native linux that I couldn't even try all of them anyway so while I consider myself a "low-end HC" gamer that's not a major issue for me - certainly not something I'd throw all benefits of Linux>W away for.
So just cut the crap - enjoy doing whatever you want but cut the crap with that "server only, enjoy compiling your kernel with CLI magic"... And all the other crap too, like "Apple can't do shit" (this coming from apple hater: apples walled garden doesn't mean that, no matter how bad it is). Just stop trolling and go enjoy your BSOD.